Vance & Hines Torquer 450 Mufflers Overview : Sound Test

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We visited Vance and Hines manufacturing to get the lowdown on the all-new game changing torquer 450 slip-ons.
- 50-State emissions compliant*
- Designed & manufactured IN THE U.S.A.
- Massive SPIN-FORMED 4.5-inch Round Mufflers
- Patent pending baffle design for best sound and power
#VanceAndHines #Torquer450 #MadeInUSA

[@jpcycles]

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[@AOWATTS]

Put them on my 2020 street glide today ( Torquer 450 slip-ons) trust and believe from a person that is hard to please... they are the TRUTH. Nice DEEP sound. Your speakers on your phone and computer don't do them justice and the look is on the money...perfect fit with stretch bags and fender. SAY WHAT YOU WANT .....I'm very happy with this Muffler !!

[@stuartlyons8638]

Hi are these fitted to the stock Header etc and did you fit a fuel pack or just the slipons, I have the 2020 SGS and am looking at a slip on muffler

[@DaveyG1337]

I got them on my 2020 Road King Special with a stage 1. I get compliments all the time with the sound quality, a good deep note that sounds great in all gears. Ps it doesnt drone on the highway! Highly recommend

[@scottfavire6589]

Installed these on my '23 Limited 2 weeks ago. Absolutely correct. The videos don't do these mufflers justice. Nice, deep rumble. Not annoyingly loud either.

[@billcarson1966]

Oh.....YES!!!! That's a beautiful sound! Not obnoxious either.

[@rafdecc]

YOU DIDN'T GIVE THE RESULTS OF THE DYNO HOW MANY MORE HP ???TORQUE???

[@jonbassett8023]

Threw em on my 2019 King Special with power duals & fuelpak3..Harley perfection. Thanks for the vid!

[@shinedown_7459]

Once you added the headers (power duals) does it sound amazing? Just slip-ons will "never" give you the true Harley sound. Thanks!

[@iginogasparini3369]

I think the best muffler for the m8 for power and sound is the s&s. Grand national 4 inch muffler.

[@falconator3419]

I still love the sound from their Hi-Outputs better.

[@Itsme-mx5tl]

Still quite, I have full exhaust on my 18 SG with a stage 3 and it's still not as loud as a 2 valve engine

[@jschmadeke4life]

agree 100%

[@gwattsjr]

What’s the dyno results?

[@buddysawyer142]

Any performance differences between touquer and the backslash being they both run LS275 baffles???

[@abdallahmoussa1983]

I love them on my RG 2020 … what is the best header for those slipons? Dresser duals? I like their look more than power duals. What do you suggest?

[@benitocardenas4034]

I paired Bassani headers with these for the Stage 2 on my FLHR. The beast definitely woke up. I was all about the Power duals but for the quality and price, I went Bassani - I used the factory chrome heat shields and it fit the sleeper look I was going for.

[@pennpal62]

I have these on my 22 FLHRXS. Only 300 miles on them so far. I measured them at 104 decibels. I think they need to be louder. The fiberglass packing will burn off eventually. I’ll check the sound again at 1k miles.

[@ssvman100]

Was the 104db at idle or around 2500 RPM?

[@benitocardenas4034]

I agree. I put these on as part of the Stage 2 on my 22 FLHR and they sound REALLY nice (and deep), but they don't have that hard Harley sound. I haven't found any info on replacing the baffles to make them louder, but I just might try getting some Zombies in there for giggles. Any update on the sound?

[@pennpal62]

@@ssvman100 At idle

[@pennpal62]

@@benitocardenas4034 I'll test it again soon

[@DeBa1226]

It sounds somewhat better.... but not good enough to switch out of a 2016 twin cam, with stage IV Kit, cam, race tuner, true duals from the heads out. Put the two side by side and the difference is still night and day, and I like V&H better than any exhaust out there. That M8 just doesn’t do it for me. Something has to change... bring back the twin cam.

[@vincentmcclain9307]

De Ba I agree with your line of thinking I had a 2010 road glide custom with a 107 build and I love that bike but these new Milwaukee eights you have to rethink I just bought or traded my road glide custom for a road glide S I’m waiting for the go fast parts to come in at 63 I’m just looking for a bump the head unit sounds great I’m doing a torque cam Vance and Hines power duals the way that thing runs through the twistyIt’s amazing it’s worth it just for that.Just changing with the times brother ride safe

[@stfuliberal]

The twin cam is a piece of shit.

[@mexicanhexican6982]

Hi, I just got my Vance & Hines torquer 450's for my 2022 Road Glide CVO, but it appears the headers are to small for the mufflers (the originals had a metal mesh gasket inside, impossible to take out without damaging): weird thing is that I cannot find anything in the documentation/description of V&H and neither did I find anything in KZbin. Do you know why that is and what is the best way to make the mufflers fit? Thanks

[@justinharlick5688]

So they help with low end torque

[@Ronald7077]

With the 2021 Harley Davidson tourers having no tuners available, with these 450 and a big air throughput, without tuning will performance or popping be effected say when at 60 MPH? Previously I ran my Road king on eliminators 400 but had stage 1 tune. Just fancy a bit more road presence of noise hence the reason for a possible change to the Torquer style. Has anyone any thoughts on what is best to do?

[@stfuliberal]

You must live in Commiefornia. Dealership says, slip-ons will not void warranty, and with the 10% give and take in the fuel/air adjustment with OEM ecm, your good to go. No high flow air cleaner. Owner of a commiefornia 2021 roadglide.

[@jamesjackson8576]

Dammit... why did they wait so long for these? I got the Titan 450s awhile back.

[@dennoinoz4278]

Yeah my Titan 450s sound great with the power duals (stage 3). The SE8-498 power cam gives it a mild lope, but I really love the sound the S&S 475 makes. Be interested to hear these new mufflers with the power duals and how much more pwr/tq they provide.

[@jamesjackson8576]

@@dennoinoz4278, you have the exact same set up I do currently. You're right too, current set up is good as is!

[@youngyarnzy777]

Not a bad sound at all \m/

[@abdallahmoussa1983]

are they any good with headers and a stage 2 cam? They said with the wide flowing baffles, there will be an issue tuning them with cam!

[@markburo4579]

WHAT HEADERS WORK BEST WITH 450 MUFFLERS

[@RidersUnited]

Is it possible to put quiet baffle on these?

[@mooselustig7959]

whats it sound like with the v&h cross over headers

[@Itsme-mx5tl]

I have the power duals with bone shaker mufflers and it's loud when the engine is cold, once it warms up its not that loud

[@jonbassett8023]

Low deep tuned rumble. I love the combo on my King Special with V&H Fuelpak3.

[@allentrevena6841]

Do i need to add a tune for these on a 2022 Roadglide special, that has the open pleated air cleaner as stock

[@rjp7413]

Do you have to put a tuner on it with the slip ons or does it still run good?

[@richardcolborn8337]

No. Just putting on the slip on mufflers you don’t . If you upgrade the air cleaner then you do

[@scottvessey2944]

2021 vaquero, will slip ons fit?/available?

[@petethepunisher3015]

Torquer 450 sound great, are they catalic free, will they fit on my screaming eagle exhaust. I have screaming eagle hi low headers with street cannons. Can I put torquer 450 on my screaming eagle headers.Thanks

[@longcao2997]

what the different between the HI Output vs Torquer 450? There should be a different when V&H design them...

[@TheHighestGodisGood]

450s are more straight through, but hi outputs sound better imo and are more torquier. Is that a word? Maybe a misspelled word lol

[@snyper3537]

It wasn't a great sound to me. But they looked nice.

[@khalifblue3302]

Are the Vance & Hines Hi-output slip-ons black 4.5 inch sound better than the Vance & Hines torquer 450 black for the Road Glide Special 114 2020 tying to make a decision be for I buy

[@traycejefferson9217]

Did you ever find out the answer? I’m considering the same

[@abdullaalameri5311]

I installed it on my 2021 street glide special post this video.. To be frank it is not to my satisfaction.. I came from sportster 1200T which I installed the V&H slip ons and the sound I had on it is almost double the sound of the tourqer 450 in my street glide.. I am thinking of installing the dual dresser headers to intensify the sound as it is not appealing to me now..! Lots of more money to be paid 🥴 PS: you should have the video done outside I believe the eco in the room amplified the sound against what actually it is..!

[@gxtt]

DO THE NEW HEADERS REQUIRE A V&H TUNE?

[@Itsme-mx5tl]

I put a FP3 on mine, if I could do it again I would have done the Thundermax tuner system.

[@petethepunisher3015]

Will they fit on screaming eagle headers on a 18 rgs stage 4

[@vanceandhines]

Yes, they'll absolutely fit your headers

[@monkeytruckdriver1771]

I see where it says 50 state emissions compliant , bt what about this statement in the instructions Fits 2017 and later Harley-Davidson Touring Models* FOR CLOSED COURSE COMPETITION USE ONLY. NOT INTENDED FOR STREET USE. *Qualified Manufacturer Declared Replacement Part for 2017 and later Harley Davidson Touring Models How does that affect the warranty since Harley is denying claims like crazy?

[@jpcycles]

That would be up to your dealer to decide how anything you add to your motorcycle effects your warranty.

[@morbe77]

Do these Slip ons require a tune?

[@abdallahmoussa1983]

No

[@kyleholewinski9921]

Does anyone know if this exhaust is loud enough to interfere with the radio on a touring bike? Thanks!

[@jpcycles]

If its just mufflers and no headers you should be fine. Its a nice low tone.

[@kyleholewinski9921]

@@jpcycles Thank you so much!!

[@eraburaurnab2783]

It is noticeable that louder than stock pipes. You get more.of that rumble and vibration. I prefer this cruise control and as im.able to hear the bike at 70+ mph

[@kingkrimson8771]

Large baffles produce a nice deep sound but on the M8 engine I'd be surprised if they didn't cause a drop in low-end torque. The M8 is more sensitive to baffle size than the Twin Cam engine.

[@jpcycles]

Since these are behind the cat its effect on low end should be a non-issue.

[@kingkrimson8771]

@@jpcycles Valid point about the cat but noted Harley tuners such as FuelMoto are seeing negative effects from large baffles even when using the stock head pipe on the M8's. Oh well, you pays your money and you makes your choice.

[@jpcycles]

@@kingkrimson8771 Jamie from FM is a friend of mine and a smart guy. But we're splitting hairs here. If you try 5 (well known Manufactures) different sets of mufflers on a M8 with a stock motor an stock head pipe your going to notice very little in horsepower difference. The choice comes down to athstetics and sound. -Patrick

[@jonbassett8023]

You install the Fuelpak 3..simple fix!

[@scottrodberg3649]

Take it off the Dino and repost so we can hear it without the Dino sound

[@Roadglide911]

Fit 2016 Road King any tuning required?

[@jpcycles]

not "required" but recommended. FP3 would be the best option

[@Itsme-mx5tl]

I would do a Thundermax tuner system vs the FP3.

[@jonbassett8023]

@@Itsme-mx5tl Nah...fuelpak3 the way to go!

[@bryoung0718]

Have to say I agree.. Just added the 450's with a Fuel Pack 3... what a HUGE difference from stock sound!

[@petethepunisher3015]

Does the torquer 450 slipons have cats in them.

[@bbersani2]

nope, you can see right through em

[@allentrevena6841]

The cats in the factory headers

[@petethepunisher3015]

@@allentrevena6841 Thanks for that.

[@deadstockflaco]

What’s louder these or neighbor haters ?

[@andygreggs]

I spent a long time looking and listening I have them im happy but not one video tells youth you will need to get muffler gaskets .....just saying as im a novice

[@ed0985587]

Still sounds like crap, unfortunately. Anything with the stock headpipe except maybe Tab bam sticks will sound pretty crappy on m8.

[@jonbassett8023]

They sound SUPERB!