Torquer 450 vs Neighbor Haters muffler slip ons

Which sounds better? Vance and Hines Torquer 450 or Cobra Neighbor Haters on Harley Davidson Road King Special or Road Glide Special? You decide.

[@joshuagray6605]

I have a set of Cobras being delivered today. I love to see couples that ride and y’all having fun. Keep the rubber down and the miles up!

[@db2overland]

Enjoy the Cobra’s. Let us know how they sound. Thanks for watching!

[@MadMexism]

Hell yeah! Had the Cobras on my 2020 softail with a stage 2, and now i have a new 2021 road glide, and think im sticking with the cobras for my slip ons. Great video guys! Greetings from south Texas!

[@db2overland]

They have a good sound to them. Slightly deeper than the Torquers but both sound awesome! Enjoy your new ride! Thanks for the comment. Ride safe!!

[@JJBurke93]

I like the deceleration sound better on the V&H. Both sound great. Great video! Thanks!

[@db2overland]

They both sounds so similar but my wife would like your reply🤣 thanks for watching.

[@Cycleshifty]

You guys are great. Cool video. Glad you both enjoy riding. Think I’m going V&H. Much appreciated.

[@db2overland]

Thanks for the kind words! V&H is a great choice. The Blonde loves them. Ride safe and enjoy!

[@mortgageloco]

Awesome review! You guys rock. 🤘

[@db2overland]

Thanks man! 👊🏼

[@caioo82]

🤩🤩🤩 wow, what a hard pick!! Both sound great!!

[@db2overland]

They both do sound great, you can still hear yourself think, so that's a bonus !!! Thanks for watching!

[@jamiesmith4813]

Vance & Hines for the WIN! Good job guys!

[@db2overland]

My wife smiles every time she gets a comment like this!!! Thanks for watching!

[@tallmike6598]

Both sound really good.

[@db2overland]

They both really do. And they get better sounding the longer they are on the bike. Thanks for watching!

[@dcdell2008]

Almost sound the same, but I have to favor the Cobra NH...I have the same slip-ons on my 2021 Road Glide Special...I got new on such a special discounted price and saved several hundreds compared to the Vance & Hines...thanks for sharing

[@db2overland]

I couldn’t believe how much cheaper the cobra’s were. The quality is just as good and the fit is the same. Thanks for watching and ride safe!

[@shasiceruti8994]

Both sounds good, I’ll have to go with the wife V&H just a bit deeper tone IMO.

[@db2overland]

She will be happy to have you in her corner. Thanks for watching.

[@curtisbull1583]

It is a bit hard to tell, but I'm pretty sure I like the Vance & Hines 450s much better. Which is good cuz I just bought some for a 2024 Road Glide. But i also got the Fuel Moto catless head pipes, so we'll see how it sounds when I get them on.

[@teapotwood2817]

thank you for sharing this, really appreciated . To be honest not much in it both sound amazing to my ears. Are both bikes stock apart from slip-on? thanks again

[@db2overland]

Yes, both bikes are stock, no modifications made to either for engine performance. Thank you for watching. Hope this helps you to make a decision on what you may be looking for.

[@teapotwood2817]

@@db2overland Thank you. Will be happy with either probably go with the Cobra though. hardest thing is finding them in stock at the moment…always limited supply in uk

[@1blacktrike]

Honestly they sound pretty similar in the clips and for the money savings I would go with the Cobra's ... You guys are cute 👍 Most Harley parts are made in China or Mexico just sayin'

[@db2overland]

Thanks for watching, we appreciate it!

[@tombstone2826]

Both sound good !

[@wikeywikeywhick3852]

wow in my view its to close to tell,both sound really good

[@billkrahn3568]

I was told that the Vance and Hines wouldn't void the factory warranty as long as you use stock head pipes. Anyone else hear this. I have cobra headers and hater pipes on my 2018 ultra limited. Was going to go same route on my 2021 RGS until I was told about warranty issue I happen to like both

[@db2overland]

Harley don’t mind the slip on’s. Warranty will be void if you do any after market engine work that is NOT done by Harley.

[@janfodor76]

Torquer 450 sound a little better !! I'am waiting for mine to come to Serbia with new Ultra limited Vivid black in black ...Hello from serbia!

[@db2overland]

Thank you for the comment! I like the deep sound of the 450’s. Hope you get them soon. Hello from Alabama!

[@lawrencemyers3215]

I have the 450’s on a 2019 FLHT-perfect!!!!

[@db2overland]

That’s great, glad you like them too. Thanks for watching.

[@CW-kn1so]

I was looking at the tab 50 cal but re thinking the V&H 450. I think the V&H would perform better.

[@db2overland]

I don’t know about performance, but they sound badass. Mine are on a stock M8. Thanks for watching.

[@Discosmoothy]

Hi, I have a 2019 ultra limited CVO and are just looking at both of these options, as well as the Cobra 909 uppercuts, it's dificult to hear on film but which would you say has the best sound ? I want my Harley to sound like a Harley 🙂

[@db2overland]

They are both very similar, if it's cost I would go with the Neighbor Haters, if warranties are important I would go with the Torquer 450s

[@spiritmediumdaniel7161]

like the 450's sound more quiet which is what i want. has a lower rumble

[@robertglancy4474]

This is the second vid I've seen of yours with the same pipe comparison. Still think the Neighbor Haters sound a little better to my ear and it's about 200 bucks cheaper. Seen some people say they lost some low end with the NH's, may try some torque inserts with the baffles out. thx

[@chemdog70able]

The torque inserts help my low end and even gave it a even better sound.

[@robertglancy4474]

@@chemdog70able Thx for the info....wound up going cheap with a pair of DNA Megaphones instead of the Neighbor Haters. Really liked the sound, putting them on a V&H true dual pipe. I hope I don't lose to much low end. If I do then going to try DK Customs lollipop style torque inserts and see how that works. Planning on a cam upgrade here in a few months anyway with a Fueling 525, pretty torquey cam.

[@db2overland]

Great idea with the inserts. I am gonna check them out. Thanks for watching, we appreciate it!

[@rednkitaln]

​@@chemdog70able Where can I find torque inserts for the neighbor haters? Haven't found them online yet.

[@dennisj8572]

Can she hear music at all at 60 - 70 mph highway speeds? What about slower cruising speeds? My passenger (wife) likes to listen to tunes on our Ultra Classic when we ride but I want louder then current Vance & Hines slab cuts on bike since new. Any thoughts on this?

[@db2overland]

Hey Dennis! Kim here...you can hear the music at those speeds although I feel you have to have the volume up pretty high. I think an upgrade to the speakers would be needed. Take note, I wear a full face helmet so that does hinder the sound quality a bit. For the most part, Tim and I usually are talking on our Sena's and we have no issues with hearing each other with the speakers inside the helmet. He can hear the music when I have it on and says it just sounds aweful through the Sena. I think if I had a half helmet I could hear the stereo pretty good. Hope that helps you. Thanks for watching!

[@dennisj8572]

@@db2overland ok thank you for the reply. Wife & I both wear a half helmet so we should be able to talk & listen to engine & rock music at lower cruising rpms. Keep the videos coming!

[@jjs8046]

Cobra FTW! Although I've come here for 450's 😂. Greetings from Poland!

[@db2overland]

That is great! Did you know about Cobra before you seen our video? Thanks for watching, we appreciate and Hello from Alabama, USA!

[@jjs8046]

@@db2overland I run Cobra El-Diablo 2-1 in my 2021 122" FXFBS. I basically know them all as I took good months to find one for the current bike. But as I am (looks like) switching to RGST, I am on another look out. Again. 🤷‍♂️

[@db2overland]

That is cool. What is the scene in Poland? Got a lot of Harleys?

[@jjs8046]

@@db2overland well, we have many if the salaries are concerned but you know...probably less then you've got them in one midsized city in the U.S. 🤷‍♂️🥺

[@mojarra0815]

Cobra all the way! Thanks :)

[@db2overland]

Good choice! Thanks for watching!

[@jorgemejias5960]

You both rock, the neighbor haters are loud, I do like 'em

[@db2overland]

I am not gonna lie, I like them both, but my neighbor hater’s do sound a bit better and are cheaper. Thanks for watching, we appreciate it!

[@jorgemejias5960]

@@db2overland you are right they both sounds good, I have Rinehart on mine. Thinking about going off the wall, and her the V&H big radious.

[@phillhamberlin493]

I notice that y’all didn’t compare the cost difference. The cobras are about 60% the cost of the V&H.

[@db2overland]

You are correct sir! But my wife likes nice things, I on the other hand......

[@johncampana86]

Both sound great I have Haters not that load because of the cat.

[@db2overland]

Still way better than stock. Thanks for watching!

[@jeromers6286]

Bonjour je suis de France et j ai reçu mes torquer 450 Pour l installation vous avez mis un joint à l échappement ? Merci

[@db2overland]

No gaskets needed. Just loosen clamps on the stock muffler, pull off and slip on the new one and tighten the clamps. Easy as that. Thanks for watching and hello from Alabama!

[@jeromers6286]

@@db2overland merci et bonne continuation

[@acethedisturbed]

Are the Cobras noticeably louder in person? Stock is downright disappointing, but I'd still like my neighbors to not hate me too much haha. Besides, one is blind, and it would be kind of a dick move to deafen him too.

[@db2overland]

The Neighbor Haters are noticeably louder than stock but very hard to tell which is louder with the 450’s. I still don’t think you’re neighbors will be upset with either, but they will be pissed if you keep stock pipes. Everyone knows stock sucks 😂. Thanks for watching we appreciate it!

[@acethedisturbed]

@@db2overland Haha fair enough. I appreciate the response!

[@allentrevena6841]

Do you have to get a tune to run those pipes

[@db2overland]

Neither one has a tune. Both still stock. I am sure that if we did a tune there would be a better sound and a bit of a horse power pick up. Thanks for watching!

[@budredden818]

Cobra neighbor haters on my 23 street bob deliver the right sound not ear splitting but a nice rumble

[@alfonsowilliams1745]

Both sound better than stock so that’s a tie!

[@db2overland]

Glad you noticed that they sound better than stock. 😀. Thanks for watching and the comment! We really appreciate it.

[@Chilllybob]

Are you guys running stock headers?

[@db2overland]

Yes. Stock headers and no tune. Thanks for watching!

[@robcasolco5086]

They won’t sound that great out that loud if you’re running the stock headers with the cat. You need catless headers

[@joshchappelow9807]

Stock head pipes?

[@db2overland]

Yes, both are stock heads. Thanks for watching.

[@MerrittW]

Both are nice but my vote goes to .........V&H.

[@roadkingryder]

I believe the Torquer 450’s sound better 👍🏼 so who win’s? 😎

[@db2overland]

Well, since you ride a Road King, I think you and I win!!! 😎Beard

[@wiremuperry4310]

I wanna hear them with a cam

[@db2overland]

Me too!!!! LOL

[@donutman48]

I have cobras on my 114 Road Glide that I bought . In my opinion they sound like crap. On a high RPM decell It sounds like a Kenworth gear breaking.

[@Old-n-slo-locked-n-leaned]

Are both 114s?

[@db2overland]

Neighbor Hater’s are on 107 and Torquer 450’s are on a 114. Thanks for watching.

[@Chilllybob]

If you both had the same exact engine then that will be a good comparison. Being that one is a 107 and the other one is a 114 .I would think the 114 would definitely sound louder. Too bad you couldn't switch pipes and redo the test

[@LuisGomez-jw8fo]

Hers!

[@db2overland]

I’ll tell her. Thanks for watching!

[@michaelmitchell5909]

Sounds the same. Need sns 475 or star 3030 cam., then they sound good.

[@ut1004bp]

They compliment each other..but got to give them a pass for this one because Harley can't sell the bikes with them.. wont meet Fed sound limits

[@donnyazhar9744]

Neighbor Hater is the winner

[@db2overland]

👍🏼

[@jamescantlin1072]

My 130 with d&d and s&s I think mine sounds better. 😆 🤣

[@darinhogan5712]

Torquer 450 sound better to me. Deeper sound. Cobras are raspy and a bit irritating to my ears.

[@db2overland]

Still better music than stock. Thanks for watching!

[@danbarrette9888]

His

[@db2overland]

My wife won't be happy you said this, but I am. 😂 Thanks for watching!!

[@imfalks3667]

I think my Rinehart DBX sounds better

[@RBUSA1969]

I'm going with the NHs little cheaper

[@db2overland]

Definitely a good choice for the price point. We both are happy with our choices. Let us know if you end up getting the NH's. Would love to know what you think! Thanks for watching!

[@RBUSA1969]

When I was looking t to buy my 22 HD Street Bob they had a used one with the NHs on the it... and I said that the sound I was looking for. Not liking the Harley rattle sound that some of the other mufflers had. But i was looking at the Vince & Hines to and they are great to just alittle pricey. The Cobra NHs came in last week and waiting on my gaskets, be in this week.

[@williamjohnson6624]

Khrome werks or nothing.

[@db2overland]

Glad you found something your happy with! We both like our purchases. Thanks for watching! Keep the rubber side down!