Conversations That Matter - Hydromorphone, a User's Story

[@noahsaville]

What an amazing conversation and such a well spoken dude. Hopefully man's Is okay these days.

[@kneelbeforethelord917]

facts God bless him

[@13donstalos]

The crackdown on prescription opiates is one of the causes for the epidemic of overdoses, because users can't get safe drugs. This program shows that if you provide a safer alternative, people will quit dying in droves. I wish that I could get on this program. But I would use it for the rest of my life, which I know is not the goal.

[@1whocs486]

Exactly and our government knows this and don't care

[@LesRyder-gb7zt]

Ive never come close to an overdose Ten minutes later "Then i woke up in an ambulance after overdosing"

[@Marsha-js8gn]

The weights and dilaudid are the only things keeping me sane ! Otherwise I would've done myself in 2 months ago.

[@dylanparr6880]

Christ. If only we had this treatment in the states...

[@artactical]

I'd like to know more about the actual treatment. May God bless Mr. Ross in his continued treatment.

[@christiangasior4244]

I’d love to try this out. They say hydromorphone has the best rush

[@poisontacoz6864]

It was amazing I couldn't even describe it sooo euphoric and music was godly. But thats what gets you hooked. stay away. Got it from an iv drip after spine surgery

[@fourlokojr3463]

just got some lets find out

[@JohnDough8922]

@@fourlokojr3463 I was on it after my second penis reduction surgery

[@JohnDough8922]

God it felt good

[@waylander2]

You've got that right. Dilaudid is my absolute favorite, that rush is better than anything. I'm on Suboxone for 8 years now it's a wonderful drug.

[@13donstalos]

Who else is here because they can't get their fix right now? I know you're out there.

[@imdegenerate]

Literally waiting for my friend to respond to me (I think he died) it’s been about 2 days and my feet are getting really cold I have to get up to take a piss every 10minutes.

[@chrisdoherty7155]

Is there something similar in Canada for people without actual extreme addictions like this, but for chronic pain patients that doesn’t take over a year for a doctor to figure out and isn’t just solved with just purely NSAIDS that destroys your stomach even more from past gastrointestinal issues or things in that nature?

[@libertyforamericanow]

This is exactly the way the war on drugs needs to head

[@MinistryInside]

It's a very fine tightrope, but i agree, i will be trying to get into a safe supply program soon here, i've been on hydromorphone, then methadone, then a alcoholic from the withdrawals from the methadone, and hoping to just get proper opiates that we all should be bale to access, regardless, it's so cheap in canada here i'll just buy it and work for it (around 1$ for a 8mg pill on the streets, free on the program, up to 28 8mg pills a day) this ruins lives when its diverted, which it ovbiously is as i paid 20$-35$ a pill before all this when i was addicted to diluadid, and now they are so dirt cheap it triggered me and i relapsed.

[@smalltowngirlbigcityheart3724]

@@MinistryInside’m a Dilaudid addict too. I have chronic pain issues and live in the states. I wish America did the safe supply program too because I’d be in it!! It’s desperately hard to stop pain medicine when I have so many chronic pain diagnosis that I have to have it for. Doctors won’t Prescribe pain meds anymore because of how addictive they are. Suffering is a very real thing here in America. I know. How are you doing now?

[@1whocs486]

The only war on drugs is which government officials is getting their cut

[@JRackz898]

I had a rush when they injected in my body my body felt warm n amazing it’s a feeling I can’t describe all I kno I was at a stand still looking at the lights

[@painmt651]

If you could harness the dedication of junkies to something positive, you could change the world, quickly. Addiction is ALL-CONSUMING.

[@ARSHDEEP-bx2sj]

They are evolving more than the people working in skyscrapers but there’s a catch only few of them gonna survive in humanity

[@sinbadandsalty3908]

Hydromorphone is maybe a good logical approach for street addicts but honestly I've heard people say that it's not that helpful. I believe the best solution would be to offer people methadone. I paid for one year supply of methadone for someone and it cost $10. a day.

[@MinistryInside]

Hydromorphone saved my life, and made me stop drinking, before i was on120mg of methadone, like like shit, all day ,every day, took 4 years to get off of it, then switched to Dilaudid 8's on safe supply program, for me it was the fact my mind is so racey i cannot live without a downer, it's pretty terrible, but being stable, no alcohol destroying my liver, imho, is a better choice, ironically i'd be one of the only cases of opioid (ive tried everything to quit drinking) actually got me down to just one beer equivalent a day, madness if you tell me. I woke up everyday saying "fucks sake, fuckoff, fuck me", brain needed to be shut off, i could even say hydromorphone got me almost off the benzos also, my story is ridiculous, I can share more if anyone gives a shit lol. I'm on 8mg 8 times a day atm, but i take what is needed.

[@MinistryInside]

Like methadone legit ruined my life, it's why i brought that up, everyone is too complicated for one drug, one recovery, I'm at around 11$ a day for my treatment, so it's similar.

[@MedullarisConus]

Is this program available in the US?

[@solar2000]

It will be eventually. The US is going to move towards a different style of safer supply though where they prescribe whatever opioid you prefer by a non-injectable route. Look up Washington's safer supply workgroup. They're working on it. We will see it take off next year.

[@rowanlynch2001]

I sniff 16mg of hydromorphone a day and its the reason I could quit fent. i live in the states and have to do so illegally and run the risk of being laced. it also costs me 70 a day. if I just got prescribed and my insurance would cover it I could get back to living my life... and I'm not homeless or a junkie I'm 21 and work everyday 9 hour shifts and own my home and two cars and have a wife. many people you don't know do opioids and you would never know.

[@barneyrubble8255]

how many mg hydro a day

[@craigtracy8470]

My nephew gets 14/ 8mg daily...plus 70mgs of Methadone, The hydro morphs will stop once he becomes stable...

[@barneyrubble8255]

@@craigtracy8470 i had iv hydromorphone for a month and a half in the hosptial, its a nightmare getting of that stuff. i was fightin to get off it when i posted originally....

[@bekeneel]

@@craigtracy8470 Damn why would one combine 2 such powerful drugs.. especially if one of them is synthetic, I wouldn't trust it. Methadone combined with heroin is known to be deadly too, for obvious reasons. And heard methadone is like the worst to get off from, like 3x as long withdrawal than heroin.

[@SterlingFartcher]

I take 6 mg of hydromorphone because of CRPS. im waiting to get ona ketamine program to help kill the pain

[@MedullarisConus]

You can go to an ER if you are having withdrawal symptoms

[@chadgrov]

Where

[@MedullarisConus]

@@chadgrov ER=NEAREST HOSPITAL

[@chadgrov]

@@MedullarisConus no I mean where what town because years back I went to the ER in withdrawal and they said sucks to be you, go to a rehab and kicked me out.

[@MedullarisConus]

@@chadgrov which state/city do you live? They have to give you treatment if you are in withdrawal, in the US they can't turn you down if your vital signs show that you are having withdrawal symptoms.

[@MedullarisConus]

@@chadgrov if you take hydromorphone without a doctor's prescription your best choice is to get into a detox facility to get re evaluated by a doctor and determine if it's has a therapeutic value for you. If not, the best thing you can do for yourself is to step away from any drug.

[@1whocs486]

Its nothing like the flu ...and i take Tramadol and withdrawal is horrible

[@surpriseimblack]

Yeah the flu is way worse

[@michaeldefiore5]

I’m so surprised that doctors would give a patient who has a history of addiction with opioids/opiates hydromorphone and not give him like methadone or Suboxone or naltrexone because that is the usual protocol for people who have a history of addiction. I would have to disagree with this guys treatment plan as it is like adding fuel to the fire and may worsen his addiction but I will say I can see a patient who has an addiction history but hasn’t used in at least 5 or more years and is experiencing debilitating pain then yes I can see where full agonist opioids would be beneficial but that would depend on a number of things in my own opinion.

[@MinistryInside]

It's called SOS, or safe opioid supply, it saved my gut, my life, and got me off the booze i was abusing, litterally saved my life, in this program you had to have failed or been on OAT for awhile, for me it was 12years, it's also daily observed doses,(I got everyday to get my pills) it's very more high barrier then OAT. Different way of attacking the problem of toxic drug supply, addicts get sick of oding and taking up taxpayer dollars from emergency services, I Only worry about diversion and young children getting a hold of them, other then that, it's golden and i've seen results from many people, including myself.

[@surpriseimblack]

Especially IV Dilaudid!!! Essentially medical malpractice...

[@thharrimw]

Why are we paying for this

[@bekeneel]

Cuz otherwise you'd be paying for all the bad shit these treatments avoid..

[@dylanparr6880]

Christ. If only we had this treatment in the states...

[@gingerroot8802]

Right? what are we waiting for? This isn't going to get better and is only getting worse. 108k deaths related to overdoses last year.... 108k people gone forever over something that could easily be remedied with safe supply. Crime,overdoses would drop dramatically. It can only help.

[@thharrimw]

@@gingerroot8802 calling them people is a little much

[@gingerroot8802]

@@thharrimw It's funny until it's someone you love

[@bekeneel]

I saw in Switzerland they have a similar program but just with regular heroin, who is not so much different from this, a more powerful, absorbable version of morphine.. But knowing it's clean makes a world of difference I suppose. Still I think nobody should be put on this for life tho

[@bekeneel]

@@gingerroot8802 no easy remedy there, most of those more recent deaths are cuz of fentanyl, or even stronger which makes it very easy to overdose. And making this freely available, like Elon Musk stupidly proposed, lol, would get so many more ppl hooked to it.