Vanderhall Venice - Morgan Versus: Episode 2

Morgan Versus: Episode 2 - Could the Vanderhall Venice really be the budget friendly Morgan 3 Wheeler? Alex Roy puts it up head to head with the Morgan to find out.
Special thanks to Daniel Boyer from Vanderhall for making this video possible.

[@Legato-2057]

What a wonderful, unbiased review.

[@MrBTRDAYZ]

I can't believe I'm just coming across this video. My God it was SO funny. I thoroughly enjoyed it, and the Vanderhall guy was such a great sport! Let's get a repeat! Morgan just announced their latest and greatest!

[@MrBTRDAYZ]

And kudos for testing and driving through my NYC hometown, including BROOKLYN!!!

[@minibus1351]

Vanderhall is half the price, probably more reliable and handles better BUT the sky is blue so Morgan is better.

[@TheWildernessEnthusiast]

minibus1351 -Wrong

[@MilkDrinker218]

Do I take the kazoo or the spitfire? Hmmmmmm...

[@DubioserAltschauerberger1510]

But looks shitty compared to the Morgan

[@owenmatthewaurelio]

"The vanderhall is better in every way, but it's junk, the Morgan wins." lol, best review ever.

[@measuredmind1841]

^^^this^^^ couldn’t agree with you more!

[@stranraerwal]

yes, it's a very funny review! And it doesn't really matter, because the Vanderhall is junk-and the Morgan wins.

[@gregnutter4658]

I'm back. I watch this video a the time, it's hilarious 😂. Keep them coming .

[@FNCXPunk]

Please keep making videos. You are gold.

[@user-in2en5pv2u]

This Venice is so much better than the Laguna. Well done Vanderhall. Well done Mr. Roy.

[@alexroy144]

Thanks so much!

[@Maxx8666]

So glad youre doing regular uploads. Keep it up 👍

[@HooptieDoodle]

Great video, totally makes me want a Vanderhall

[@galja6889]

Very scientific ,objective review that anyone can appreciate!Wonderful video!

[@mitchhilenski4862]

This is the best video ever to grace KZbin.

[@Scrapla1]

Wow that looks like a gorgeous street to live on!

[@thomasoppenlnder3934]

That is by far the best car review I have ever witnessed. Long live favoritism - and M3w.

[@richsfc1]

One of my favorite reviews/reviewer! Here, here!

[@robertwillis4061]

The Vanderhall is a 3 wheeled Caterham

[@50pence59]

“Just leave the tender in there” ...every car and bike I’ve owned. I get it.

[@DubioserAltschauerberger1510]

Morgan looks timeless. The Vanderhall (or van der Hall in the right grammar spelled) looks like a refrigerator on wheels.

[@tomardans4258]

Zero taste

[@techbop]

Best review ever! 🤣

[@albertojr.carreon5580]

I test rode the Vanderhall at Daytona and it is the best 3 wheeler i have driven!

[@dwp1948]

An excellent video. The Morgan owner (video commentator) does a funny tongue in cheek comparison of his vehicle and the Vanderhall. Only tonight while searching for turbo charged Can Am Spyder videos did a youtube ad pop up with Jay Leno's review of the Vanderhall (I didn't know they existed) and here I am. Considering that I have been obsessed with buying a brand new Can Am Spyder f3 1330cc for a long time, I'll now have to consider this bike for alot of different reasons. I wish there were an east coast Vanderhall dealer where I could see and possibly drive one of these, because the cost is comparable to a new F3. I especially like the upgrade 200hp version. Definitely something for me to think about. That guys Morgan looks like a bunch of junk to me, I wouldn't want one mainly because I'm old and tired of repairing poorly manufactured junk (no fun).

[@VanderhallMotorWorks]

Were you able to locate your nearest dealer? vanderhallusa.com/find-a-dealer/

[@chrismaggio7879]

Laughing my ass off... so I must be junk! I will be buying one of these junkers soon! great vid! Thx!

[@JeepsCafe]

Best review ever, I love! it but the Vanderhall is better👍

[@DJMotoVlogs]

Are they planning to make a manual trans veersion? That would make it much more appealing imo.

[@alexroy144]

They did, but now they dont.

[@DJMotoVlogs]

Polizei 144 Boo!

[@VanderhallMotorWorks]

We had it available for over a year. Not enough interest to supports its own assembly line.

[@teamsleepnine]

fucking brilliant!!!! looking forward for more video

[@strinity511]

Hilarious video.

[@MrMarineMaster]

This guy is amazing!!

[@mcearl8073]

Those are some nice looking boots, what kind are they?

[@alexroy144]

Some outlet mall things,

[@HiroshimaSpirit]

The Morgan is better in every conceivable way... because it's awful. I'd rather be late because it broke and have a good time, because owning a car like the Morgan is an adventure. The Vanderhall is the glamping of three-wheelers.

[@johnviera1915]

HiroshimaSpirit eat me you own one umm no you don’t

[@JPE_DRAEB]

Better yet I wouldn't get either, but for the same price as the Morgan I can get a 2020 Corvette Stingray C8 mid-engine! ;)

[@LaneHouse]

Every time I drive a Vanderhall, I want one, the Venice is a lot more affordable, and a lot more tempting than the Laguna.

[@BelviGER]

Thank you for making your personal preference so obvious No matter if one watches your video because it stars you and the Morgan, or for actual consumer recommendation (lol), it will provide all needed information

[@gregnutter4658]

Love this review lol do comparison on the Morgan and the T Rex

[@EvanMoon]

Shirt idea - your face, and under the words "nobody cares, it's a Morgan three wheeler"

[@alexroy144]

Great idea.

[@camillo1234]

Do you buy a car like that to have fun or to get bored really quickly? Manual with amazing sound and full of feedback or automatic with zero sensations?

[@doubletee5250]

The Morgan will always win because it's three wheels of joy. Imperfect in every way and perfectly joyful.

[@sgtjbone1]

😂 I loved this review 😂

[@andrewdoubtfire4700]

Who would’ve thought that multiple imperfection is in fact actual perfection. This guy gets the meaning of owning a Morgan.

[@nicklove2011]

10:24 lmao. Savage.

[@coastuncle1965]

Some people think it's the dumbest thing they've ever seen in their entire life. We may need to bring back bullying.

[@petergibbs]

The Vanderhall is probably safer, more reliable, quicker, but it is so Bland and lifeless. The Morgan has history, it has an engine that gloriously thumps away in front of you making your heart sing with joy. It's alive, it has Soul.

[@brentlashley2138]

This man is funny as hell.

[@apache1234657]

Vanderhall has a gap under the windscreen 3:13 strange panel gap so its clearly junk and the morgan wins and puts a bigger smile on your face

[@VanderhallMotorWorks]

420apache657 the gap provides ventilation for anti fog in high humidity.

[@mando_universe1760]

😂 I laugh through out the whole video

[@johnbecay6887]

now i want a vanderhall...

[@jpvill4th]

Unfortunately the Morgan wasn't developed by the Morgan Motor Company. It was developed by Peter Larson in Seattle. Morgan bought it off of him and then proceeded to screw it up with design changes they didn't understand. Took them more than three years to work out the screw ups that Pete had already cleared up. Some of the things Morgan didn't like resulted in severe handling problems that took Morgan almost three years to work out. Pete also worked out the problems with the drivetrain that Morgan just tossed away. The Vanderhall is just a more modern iteration of the three-wheeler. Actually front wheel drive is better because a three-wheeler has better handling with the majority of the vehicle mass close to the front wheels; more resistant to rollover.

[@nohosound1529]

All those things are true! Sadly, NO ONE CARES! ;-)

[@jpvill4th]

There was research and a publication sponsored by the US DOT NHTSA back in 1981 that looked specifically at three-wheeled vehicles and their handling characteristics in both the 2F1R and 1F2R configurations. Very few people know anything about this research or the conclusions. If you were going to design and build a three-wheeler this research publication will save you many hours of work trying to design and build a vehicle that is very resistant to rollover. In an interview on an episode of Jay Leno's Garage Steve Hall points out the number of iterations it took his company to come up with the front wheel drive configuration that they are using. If he knew about this research he could have arrived at the same configuration just by reading this publication. The conclusion of the publication is that it is possible to design and build a three-wheeler that will handle better than any other vehicle presently on the highways and that include all of the super cars. The title of the report is "Evaluation of Electric and Hybrid 3-Wheeled Vehicle for Handling and Stability" Contract Number: DOT-HS-902309. The publication is in two volumes, the Executive Summary(Vol. I) and the Technical Report (Vol. II).

[@hubs37]

J P H you are totally wrong, before making infantile remarks do your history research dip stick.

[@markmark5269]

It's ok John, some of us out here in internet world actually design and build our own cars from scratch, ignore the ignorants. The Nissan Delta goes someway towards substantiating the theory, and an amazing fact to many is that a reverse trike understeers while a trike oversteers. It's a fact found in physics. I am starting a 3 wheeler this very week, maybe for production. Morgan/Vintage looks, Vanderhall FWD modern layout and drivetrain. usually takes me about 3 months to build a proto. My Morgan, that was purchased both on a whim and for business promotion purposes is just a pile of rubbish, broken again, S&S engine this time, rear 90 degree drive unit last time, and just being used for promotional display now until i could be bothered to fix it and sell it..

[@curbowman]

@@markmark5269 You might benefit from reading this, written by one of the most respected 3-wheeler designers of the world (he has been refinig his designs during 4 decades non-stop): rqriley.com/the-dynamic-stability-of-three-wheeled-vehicles-in-automotive-type-applications/

[@My-Opinion-Doesnt-Matter]

Fair review.

[@Baribrotzer]

Apples and oranges, people. The Vanderhall isn't trying to be a Morgan - it's trying to be a pretty good bare-bones sports car that happens to have three wheels because that way it can be lighter. The Morgan is not a car so much as an ongoing hobby, an image, and a lifestyle; its weaknesses are part of its charm. Each fails by the standards of the other because they're really not the same thing, and are only superficially similar.

[@barber01]

They both have three wheels and classic lines. That's where the similarities end.

[@mcearl8073]

The Morgan does look 100% better. I don't dislike the Venice though, it's one of the better looking 3 wheelers, I just am not crazy with the wheels, they don't seem to fit the look of the car when other stuff has an old school look.

[@mapko15]

Please do a t-rex next

[@alexroy144]

I'm working on it,

[@vincenzo-zocca]

Great video. Didn't know Vanderhall. Good it's out there 'cause it's a cool car! Still I prefer the Morgan. What's the story with the LHS front tire on the Morgan? Looks like it's fitted the wrong way around. Also it's a tad too modern IMHO.

[@scubatrucker6806]

Morgan comes with a battery jump box..

[@jordanultra9955]

"This car is for jerks"😂

[@carloscarter9429]

Vanderhall all the way!

[@kellybreen5526]

The Vanderhall is a bit more like a car and the Morgan is a bit more like a motorcycle. I like them both and so does THE great car guy Jay Leno. There is room on the planet for both and I hope both continue to be successful designs.

[@margieleidy6236]

Great video. This was NOT junk. LMAO

[@LilleyAdam]

That steering wheel should be on the morgan.

[@ostendadler1]

How well does the Venice hold its value ? That's right - The Morgan wins !

[@maxhi88]

The Vanderhall is better simply because you can drive it more. ;)

[@85corolla]

Guy Incognito Vanderhall is for women who don't work on cars, haha.

[@maxhi88]

85corolla I’m glad you’re such a manly man.

[@chizzlemo3094]

"People are emotional creatures", sums it up, Vanderhall really has improved most aspects but lacks that character. The latest Morgan fortunately closes the tech gaps, with wider tires etc.

[@OzcarMike641]

12:14 - What did you see ????????

[@VanderhallMotorWorks]

Who he wishes was riding next to him.

[@aleenaboyer5644]

Haha 😂 Vanderhall RULES!!!

[@boycelocklear7572]

Need a rise hood on vernice vancehall

[@ToekneeToe]

Morgan is better. It's all about the sound. The Growl of the V-twins FTW.

[@bonovolks___]

4:03 He break the tank cover

[@VanderhallMotorWorks]

By view count, Vanderhall wins. :)

[@InfoumusMOBB]

I want the new R version that's coming !!!!!

[@5150Rockstar]

Who loves you baby?

[@cairnsandy1]

i owned a mini , and i think if you've ever owned a mini , then you should desire this ALOT! , at 180hp 1500lbs it faster than virtually any race mini you can build.

[@DubioserAltschauerberger1510]

1500 pounds is like 900kg. That's insane with 180hp.

[@6figuresdeep698]

Totally awesome review... Morgan wins.

[@thatguy2408]

Cracked me up. And I agree. Venice automatically loses on engine noise alone. Everything else is irrelevant. 😂

[@tojiroh]

"The Venice sucks because it doesn't hurt as much."

[@johnviera1915]

tojiroh you suck and you Own shit

[@DougNoyce]

So tell us what you REALLY think!!

[@enochloveiii1480]

Great review but nobody care. I'm buying a vanderhall be a use of this review.

[@daf62757]

Maybe he should compare the Morgan to an old AMC Pacer. Then when he says the Morgan wins, he won't be lying!

[@vaiojoe]

👍🏻

[@pnp072000]

The Vanderhall needs to copy the Morgan's vintage design and then it would be more popular.

[@chase_vaseleou]

LOL This is the best

[@jenaeadams8067]

Best review ❤️😂😂😂

[@BrianCeder]

Best review ever! but nobody cares!

[@crisray6789]

Is there a reason not to just buy a motorcycle over either of these?

[@alexroy144]

Because Morgan.

[@VanderhallMotorWorks]

Because Vanderhall

[@jacobhunsinger7793]

Ride in the country with you honey, holding hands.

[@NoPrivateProperty]

How about a conversion to four wheels, because three is just a compromise to get around completely stupid laws

[@Kaputnik11]

Take a shot Everytime he says junk :)

[@Emilthehun]

If the vaderhall had wire wheels, it would be as cool and unsafe as the Morgan. Then add a carburetor and now we can make it just as unreliable. Done!

[@bobnicholson4702]

I have the answer, buy one of each cause they are both junk....except the Morgan. Great review.

[@spacep0d]

Front wheel drive is the only drive that makes sense with a three-wheeler! MORGAN WINS, lel. JK. Vanderhall FTW.

[@aidandiyaaldin6334]

Totally unbiased

[@barkingorifice]

Vanderhall is a better functionally, but painful to look at.

[@spencerkopp3741]

the nic cage of cars

[@drewsey5733]

see. i wouldn't get a Venice because its both wrong wheel drive, and it uses a gm powertrain. and the morgan is better

[@tomi9253]

陽気なおじさん。

[@TuEIite]

Of course you'd be wearing a Heuer Monaco

[@mrfuriouser]

Monaco wins!

[@curbowman]

The front wheel drivetrain has been proven to be the best for reverse trikes. Look at this 1984 Trihawk: kzbin.info/www/bejne/q4SrfZtpnduerJo

[@AngelGarage]

That was funny

[@Oakleyworld]

its funny how everyone in the comments like morgans and vanderhalls but in the real world, everyone I have encountered like the slingshot more, especially women, that the other cars just look old

[@baldilocks1914]

The only women that like slingshots are hood rats!

[@greggcollins4215]

The Morgan should have had a Moto Guzzi engine. The Vanderhall should hane had a Fiat 1.4 Multiair engine.

[@FreeTalentWorldwide]

So emotional. That Morgan looks, drives, priced and smells like shit compared to the vanderhall. Absolutely horrible sportsmanship stop being that guy. Good comparison video. See what I did there?

[@abbaby555]

I'll take one of each

[@romas_krd]

I guess he owns morgan thats why morgan wins

[@GrymsArchive]

Watched EP1 and you made me cringe. About 6 minutes into EP2 and I said enough.

[@alexroy144]

We agree.

[@alexroy144]

Junk.

[@andresrearte5547]

This review is junk and I love it! LOL!

[@verygood7155]

The Vanderhall looks like a shoe.