I think people are over thinking it. The End said that it watched Sonic's past battles. The End actually being there could just be symbolism of what he said. Thus, he's there, but not actually there
@Sebo994 Жыл бұрын
The end is like death who’s the narrator of the book thief if u ever read that
@LD-service Жыл бұрын
It was looking at it when Sonic was running through Cyberspace tho
@Lit-C Жыл бұрын
@@LD-service That is not explained nowhere. The End states that it has seen Sonic fight Machines and Gods, in which he has fought no gods during his time in Cyberspace
@LD-service Жыл бұрын
@Lit-C "I saw your mind as your ran through my prison"
@Stickz0816 Жыл бұрын
@@Sebo994omg nice reference!! That's my favorite book
@tailsfan10 Жыл бұрын
I was told by someone that The End's physical form actually remained in space as its soul was truly trapped in Cyber Space; bound to the Supreme Titan. With that, it is witnessing Sonic's adventure in a frozen-like state
@Vanilla_Rice1 Жыл бұрын
Yea, someone else expressed that too. That would make great sense and was something that went over my head lol
@Jonrocks7 Жыл бұрын
Nah the end just assumes the shape of whatever the person(s) see as death itself, which makes me wonder why the end didnt look like mephalis since he is the only one that has truly killed sonic.
@aidenreed680 Жыл бұрын
@@Jonrocks7well cause sonic never seen mephails at all during the event of 06 and sonic was stab in the back where he couldn't see who did it, the only people that know mephails is shadow, silver and blaze during 06
@yawningabyss6817 ай бұрын
@@aidenreed680 also consider that, you know, cannonically the events of 06 were erased from the timeline at the end of that game.
@Captain1455 Жыл бұрын
This is young Sonic. The End wasn't lying when it side it's been watching Sonic. No wonder it knows Sonic slaying Mechines and God's. And I thought Morpho Knight from Kirby was scary.
@zero-030 Жыл бұрын
I always figured classic stuff was just a different dimension, a little "have your cake and eat it, too" by just having two cakes. It explains why Sonic can reference classic adventures while the classic characters are doing their own parallel thing
@LD-service Жыл бұрын
"No matter what form I take, The End comes for you all!" The End in Frontiers took the form of the moon (made itself look like it) and that's why there's a normal purple moon in Superstars. But that's just a theory, a game theory!
@warriorcrookx1306 Жыл бұрын
I think Classic sonic was a younger sonic from the past but due to Sonic Generations. Younger (Classic) sonic timeline changed when it happened, due to him showing up cause then the phantom ruby teleporting him to Modern sonic (original) timeline. Modern sonic goes through the original games, but Classic Sonic timeline changes after sonic & knuckles when he teleported to Sonic Generations timeline.
@playerback7722 Жыл бұрын
True
@freddykrueger1699 Жыл бұрын
I dunno...wouldn't he still be from the past technically if that was the case? Forces changed the whole "from the past" thing into being from a completely different dimension.
@warriorcrookx1306 Жыл бұрын
@@freddykrueger1699 ya they retconned that now but now there trying to say sonic mania, sonic superstars are canon take place before sonic 4 but I forgot what game it was that was before sonic 4
@UltraBeastMode01 Жыл бұрын
According to Ian Flynn it is not the end.
@malikscott7062 Жыл бұрын
So why is that moon there?
@fiblin483 Жыл бұрын
@@malikscott7062moon
@starsmashmations4969 Жыл бұрын
i think the purple moon has been there but the ends “conscious” was in supreme. it’s like it’s corpse, kinda?
@Vanilla_Rice1 Жыл бұрын
I actually really like this idea. And I think that would make sense
@ashemabahumat4173 Жыл бұрын
Its had avatars and different forms all throughout recorded history, and its body likely phased in and out of existence or physically existed around the asteroid belt until the events of the game.
@Sebo994 Жыл бұрын
Another frontiers one is in 1 of the stages they drew a picture of a umbrella of sonic and amy 😂 Shocked not many crazy shipper fans haven’t gone nuts
@freddykrueger1699 Жыл бұрын
Wait what? Which stage?
@Sebo994 Жыл бұрын
@@freddykrueger1699 you can find it in pinball carnival act 2 You’ll see tails doll as well somewhere over there
@MelvinCool475 Жыл бұрын
Wow I never knew that!
@ZAMO-sz8gp Жыл бұрын
I always find it hilarious when you say "ohh snackazoinks" 🤣
@flameblastv5151 Жыл бұрын
In the original Frontiers final boss, The End monologues about how Sonic fought gods and that “they were mighty” so it would have had to secretly be there the whole time to know that, or The End could know that by how cyberspace interacted with Sonic’s mind. I don’t think it’s a concrete answer but it’s an interesting theory.
@MrNeedleM0use Жыл бұрын
This is cool but wow. Just when we thought they were going to fix the timeline they did.........this
@Vanilla_Rice1 Жыл бұрын
Lol my thoughts exactly
@BT_Official20118 ай бұрын
The end said it saw him fight gods meaning it saw him fight chaos and maybe the biolizard if that is a good
@BT_Official20118 ай бұрын
God*
@imnotkaiser Жыл бұрын
The modern characters talked about their classic journeys, they never mentioned superstars or mania which means this classic sonic is in an alternate timeline
@leodetective6056 Жыл бұрын
Guys it's just an easter egg, The End was locked in cyberspace this whole time. This is not canon
@leodetective6056 Жыл бұрын
If this is canon when this will really mess the lore 💀
@TheBlazingBronzeBro Жыл бұрын
That's actually really cool.
@gavinisbackАй бұрын
Ian Flynn confirmed that it isn’t The End, and is just some random purple moon. Yeah sure buddy.
@TheoneandonlyMr.Needlemouse2 Жыл бұрын
Monster sonic and classic sonic are coming back
@Stickz0816 Жыл бұрын
Maybe cyber station is in cyber space?
@tryde2026 Жыл бұрын
NAHH THO BUT IMAGINE A FRONTIERS 2 WITH CLASSIC HYPER SONIC AND SUPER SONIC CORRUPTED/2 THAT WOULD BE AWESOME
@Vanilla_Rice1 Жыл бұрын
Woah! That would be insanely epic, especially another Hyper Sonic appearance. I’m sure it would play much better than Generations’ final boss lol
@Sebo994 Жыл бұрын
all of that will never happen.
@freddykrueger1699 Жыл бұрын
@@Sebo994but it would be cool though- Just let classic sonic have the Hyper mode instead of modern sonic and boom, problem solved
@Sebo994 Жыл бұрын
@@freddykrueger1699 it’d be cool and I’d love to see it but unfortunately it will never happen
@freddykrueger1699 Жыл бұрын
@@Sebo994 I agree. But don't say never. Never is negative
@shadybadger7896 Жыл бұрын
The End is also ultimately just a purple planet, it could just be a purple planet? Sonic Team always takes liberties with their outer space vistas
@zenith-gg9tl Жыл бұрын
honestly i thought this just meant the end was omnipresent or something
@quintuspotatimus2811 Жыл бұрын
ian flynn said its not the end guys its just a purple rock
@Gio-M-L Жыл бұрын
Sonic Frontiers doesn't tell the origin or what is The End, but I have a teory: The End doesn't have a physical body, he/she/it is that "purple soul" that comes out of the titans after they are defeated, and that "moon" is kind of a spaceship or weapon, so after The End was sealed in the cyberspace with the titans the "moon" was abandoned in space.
@SpongeBobSquarepants_ Жыл бұрын
Did you know tails doll originally from Sonic R made it’s appearance in pinball carnival?
@SupaSTXR777 Жыл бұрын
They re-used the Sonic mania pause sound
@sgf51 Жыл бұрын
They reuse a lot of stuff from Mania
@botmaster9000 Жыл бұрын
I am pretty sure that this game takes place in a different dimension.
@Thegamer-uf9pn Жыл бұрын
The game creator said this game was made after mania and before adventure
@Jonrocks7 Жыл бұрын
Its just an easter egg, they confirmed that the continuity was consistent and the end was locked up untill frontiers.
@raihangiblelover Жыл бұрын
I thought that was the moon...
@silvervens Жыл бұрын
What about that lasered moon by Eggman?
@Boosky-Barry Жыл бұрын
Ian sadly confirmed that it’s not The End
@shadybadger7896 Жыл бұрын
Why is this sad; The End is one of the laziest Sonic villains in the franchise, why would you want them to keep it alive
@Boosky-Barry Жыл бұрын
@@shadybadger7896 still would have been cool for lore implications
@shadybadger7896 Жыл бұрын
@@Boosky-Barry I'll give that a very generous 'maybe'
@solly1430 Жыл бұрын
ITS THE END!
@cupboi9606 Жыл бұрын
bro dont know that classic sonic is sonic from past
@Mr.Cyclone91 Жыл бұрын
modern sonic doesn’t remember mania or superstars because of generations and forces. problem solved?
@tailsfan10 Жыл бұрын
Superstars happened for both Modern and Classic Sonic. It was right after Mania for Classic Sonic, but for Modern it was whatever took place before Mania and Superstars was the last classic adventure before Sonic Adventure. He obviously mentioned he had been to the Northstar Islands in the TailsTube video
@Mr.Cyclone91 Жыл бұрын
@@tailsfan10 and they say it’s sonic from a different dimension.
@christopherford39 Жыл бұрын
@Mr.Cyclone91 that was fixed by TailsTube as he confirmed they are the same
@Mr.Cyclone91 Жыл бұрын
@@christopherford39 modern sonic still doesn’t remember mania or superstars.
@christopherford39 Жыл бұрын
@@Mr.Cyclone91 Tailstube proved that false as well
@bobby991 Жыл бұрын
Me(if he is there at the end of the game is it the end of the game and it's showing? Or that your in cyber space
@prisca7766 Жыл бұрын
Is there a live stream
@Vanilla_Rice1 Жыл бұрын
I did one for the first story on Twitch. But didn’t for the secret story or true final boss. Only recorded myself lol.
@prisca7766 Жыл бұрын
It's ok
@agentclank8183 Жыл бұрын
Nah classic sonic could beat the end. At this point he mastered space shooters.