Vans Pipe Masters: Invite Show Part 2 | Surf | VANS

[@diegofarley7570]

To see Craig Anderson and Noa Deane in a competition setting under entirely new rules is going to be fun to watch

[@nor_easterly]

100%! And the fact that they will get 3 heats is epic

[@j3f423]

Praying for waves 🌊

[@RealSurfStories]

What a rare and special opportunity to gain this insight from this eclectic panel. The mission of striving for something different and dynamic will make this event historic and EPIC!! BRAVO!!!

[@cameraman2149]

The way they are setting this up is so exciting. So much hype and great to see surfers who deserve a spot at pipe in the vans pipe masters

[@j3f423]

Looks like Nate got Michael and the rest way too high 😂 got to love it 🎉

[@taonflorian2]

the format and the non traditional way it's presented/commented will hopefully get the wsl to take notes. bravo!

[@whoppsnone1529]

Great content guys and gals.

[@jefferytott]

This is very exciting. Great show too.

[@Rockbottomsurf]

I just hope drops of consequence like those by Seth and JJF at last year’s Pipe score way more highly than an air on the end section.

[@Thurston.Howell.the.3rd]

don't bet on it

[@jon3113]

Is Marzo on the list? Should be.

[@whealthyhealthy]

Vans is DA Surf Master Brand so legit !

[@FrozenSurf]

Some Concepts of the new format I think are good. More heats for everyone is good. Tryna score airs. Merp. Just hope Jamie surfs it on an 8ft soft top

[@ryanrowe1975]

Nice!

[@qAtuBiFa]

Clay Marzo and Yago Dora please.

[@edwardegger6843]

owen wright in?

[@TPJN777]

Someone needs to go Kai Lenny straps style for ridiculous end section airs

[@MD69BarrelKilla]

Thought Matt Meola was from Hawaii? Why is he in misfits?

[@Chris_Genex]

This b epic

[@PlayingOutsideSomewhere]

Will you be getting different athletes on these episodes ?

[@rzadigi]

Why wasn’t KK included in the draw?

[@Zozo4-u9w]

Not a fan of this format. It takes the thrill of competition out of the equation. If they keep it like that, Kelly will make history as the winner of the last real Pipe Masters imo.

[@richardforee1342]

Aloha! I see a potentially huge problem lurking. If Pipe gets perfect, dreamy conditions in the 3-6 ft range, especially early in the period, then there will be lots of 9+'s. And what happens if Pipe then goes to 8-12 ft solid on the last day or two, with maybe less than perfect conditions? The best scores possible will again be 9-10's, and this is a travesty because surfing a 10ft Pipe wave is ten times more difficult than a perfect 5 footer! This contest may be won early in the event with several great rides in smaller, very user-friendly surf, with no rewards for those who wind up charging BIG, BRUTAL, LIFE-THREATENING Pipe! I hope this doesn't happen! Any thoughts anyone? Aloha!

[@rainbowjon4880]

Yeah I got a thought …. Relax man 😊

[@richardforee1342]

@@rainbowjon4880 I'm pretty relaxed. you're a deep thinker.

[@gabrielpereyron]

you`ll never get a 9 on a 5 footer (not in this kinda contest)

[@richardforee1342]

@@gabrielpereyron Nothing personal, but you're wrong. Many Pipe Masters over the past 40 years have been held in smaller surf and many, many surfers were getting 9's. In Medina's 1st Masters contest, in his heat against Shane Dorian, in 5-10 ft surf, Medina got two 9+'s on 5 footers!!! You don't know what you're talking about! Nothing personal. Aloha!

[@gabrielpereyron]

@@richardforee1342 yes, you're right, but now the rules changed. They gonna have to leave room in the scale for when it gets gnarly. And other point is that every surfer is going to surf 3 heats so they can enjoy every pipe mood. Aloha !

[@brodiwheeler7583]

So it’s NOT a CT contest?

[@ronnyron6939]

No. The CT event is still the Billabong Pipe Pro slated as the first event of the 2022 CT schedule starting at the end of Jan.

[@Zozo4-u9w]

@@ronnyron6939 so basically the Vans Pipe Pro became the Pipe Masters?

[@ronnyron6939]

@@Zozo4-u9w What happened was the Volcom Pipe Pro's holding period got taken by the CT event sponsored by Billabong, the Billabong Pro Pipeline, and the Volcom Pipe Pro is no longer an event. Billabong’s contract as the title sponsor of the Pipe Masters ran out in 2021. The WSL and Vans own the intellectual property rights to the Pipe Masters name. They couldn't swing a deal/contract with Billabong so Billabong renamed that CT event to the Billabong Pro Pipeline. The Vans Pipe Masters is an entirely new event. It is sanctioned by the WSL so CT surfers are able to compete in the event. The CT event formerly know as the Pipe Masters but now called the Billabong Pro Pipeline is still just a prestigious as when it was called the Pipe Masters. It's still a CT event and there will still be the "Pipe Trials" where Hawaiian surfers can surf their way into the event and even win the CT event like Jamie O'Brien did in 2004 or when Johnny Boy Gomes won it as a wild card in 1997.

[@Zozo4-u9w]

@@ronnyron6939 well I would argue that stripping the Masters title away from the CT event makes it less prestigious imo. We are talking about a legacy stemming from the Lopez area, a traditional crowning of the best Pipe surfer. Could be interesting though to include non CT surfers in the mix, although this new format looks much less thrilling than the traditional event. I only watched bits and pieces of the Volcom event last year, when this format was introduced.

[@andreshenriquez3087]

Not Clay Marzo??

[@V3gan_vega]

Beutiful

[@jsev607]

The focus on Mikey was soft. Gotta click the focus button halfway, then all the way Stab crew!

[@justincase6442]

Clay Marzo?

[@MD69BarrelKilla]

Mason Ho gonna win easy.

[@rzadigi]

Funny how KK just outed Tyler Wright

[@lancejackson3618]

Have you been living in a cave? She's been out for about 2 years.. Her fiancee was at every comp last season.

[@rzadigi]

@@lancejackson3618 haha not a cave but countryside Japan. Almost the same apparently 😆

[@j3f423]

Why tosh lol he rips and def gets barreled and has the best style with Craig on the misfits but like we already know he’s not going to be the deepest or get a huge air l. Anyway psyched to see him rip and sure many others are so it’ll be entertaining, just funny felt it should have went to someone else, but what do I know

[@j3f423]

Clay marzo for alt please ❤

[@byronbass1370]

100% thought the same thing. And he honestly hasn’t put that much time in. I see him come every year and by far his best season was last year, and it wasn’t anything to write home about. Alan Jr Cleland is the real deal. He will destroy it if its pumping 6 to 8

[@lj_hepp]

Where did Tatiana grow up again?

[@moronifeitosa]

born in southern brazil, but grew up in kauai, hawaii

[@IanMcSlater]

The more I listen the confused I am. Am I excited or is this joke not funny. Hawaiians taking the most prestigious event that used to be for everyone and making it a joke by making it Hawaiians vs “blow ins” and “misfits”. If a Hawaiian wins….well gee of course they did, the comp is mostly Hawaiian s. If a “blow in” or “misfit” wins, we’ll….how pathetic. I don’t see how a Hawaiian can be proud about that win. Call a fellow competitor a blow in or misfit and they best you? That’s a joke. How that’s good for the sport I don’t know. As for format I’m excited. I’m kinda surprised we don’t have the racist police having sn issue with this though ha

[@jkm3297]

Surfing in general has become a hideous joke. The surfing itself is great, but everything surrounding it is puke worthy

[@claystation6360]

smh keala

[@mikeuptegrove]

There’s all this talk, but what’s the actual objective Vans is trying to achieve? There’s too many components to figure out what Vans thinks all these rules and standards are going to achieve. If Hawaiians are perpetually worried about representation, and Vans feels they have to cater to that sentiment, why doesn’t Vans just do an all Hawaiian event and be done with it? Segregation is the new desegregation anyways. And why are people who don’t surf Pipe, as good as they are, going to be able to do things out at Pipe, that none of the best Hawaiians who surf there all the time, haven’t already done? It just seems like wishful thinking and a lot of marketing hype to me; a pipe dream. Pipe itself dictates what can be done. It always has, always will. You ain’t gonna air from inside a barrel, and, you ain’t gonna avoid the barrel, and skip it altogether, to air. We’ve seen airs after coming out, not new. We’ve seen carves after coming out, also not knew. Not sure why Vans thinks there’s all these other options we just haven’t seen yet. I feel like society is constantly bent on trying to turn things that aren’t into things that are. Pipe isn’t gonna just change its form even if humans pretend that different swell direction makes it a JBay, a Lowers, a Snapers, or any other wave. Pipe is Pipe is Pipe. It doesn’t need humans projecting new identity assignments upon it to validate its existence as it is, and that’s what it feels like. It feels like one big woke catering event whereby $$$$ is used to pay people to accept the delusions. What’s new. 🙄🙄

[@lancejackson3618]

Well said Mike

[@mikeuptegrove]

@@lancejackson3618 thanks Lance. I think it’s time more of us speak our minds. The world is just getting too stupid.

[@byronbass1370]

Very well said. Yeah its like enough already.Do a fucking air at pipe, naa im good. Get a fucking barrel. Like Uncle D or Mike Ho, makua are out at pipe not to get barrels but to do a stupid fuckin air. Fuckin lame

[@matt355]

100% agree with you mate. They're billing this as some ground breaking event. It's pipe, big barrels are the winner. This event doesn't change anything. More events at pipe is cool though.

[@mikeuptegrove]

@@matt355 exactly.

[@creature_of_the_undergroun261]

This is just stupid. Leave the contest the way it's always been.

[@alexchechs]

Michael is unbearable

[@dcxxx6850]

Well he’s not nearly as bad as Joe Turpel.

[@phototron8780]

So the WOKE WSL ruins another contest...

[@mikeuptegrove]

Exactly. Glad I’m not the only one to notice. Woke sells. And the soulless sell out for $$$ always. WSL lost its soul long ago. VanDorn placates the woke for $$$$

[@byronbass1370]

Yup