The WORST Designed Champions In League of Legends

[@eXecu7or]

This is K'Sante, a champion with 4,700 HP, 329 Armor, and 201 MR, has Unstoppable, a Shield, and goes over walls. Has Airborne, and the cooldown is only 1 second too. It costs 15 Mana. The W CD is even refreshed when he transforms. He has true damage on his passive. Then, when he stacks Armor and MR, he gets Ability Haste too, Ability Haste to his Q, and his spell casting speeds up. Then, he has an AD ratio, so his W…AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[@sethb3090]

This is K'Sante, all his stats give you other stats and his abilities are designed not to actually need all those stats but he gets them anyway

[@GameBreaker1055]

I still wonder who thought that a champ that gets offensice stats by building defensive ones is a good idea... He is to tanky to take down when he does not want to fight you and he then stat-checks you offensively when he wants to.

[@swiftysnail9053]

체력 4700 방어력 329 마저201 인 챔피언👤이 저지불가🚫, 쉴드🛡, 벽🧱 넘기는 거 있고요. 에어본🌪 있고, 심지어 쿨타임은 1️⃣초밖에 안되고 마나🧙‍♂️는 1️⃣5️⃣ 들고 w는 심지어 변신💫하면 쿨 초기화에다가 패시브는 고정피해🗡가 들어가며 그 다음에 방마저🥋 올리면📈 올릴수록📈 스킬 가속⏰이 생기고! q에 스킬가속⏰이 생기고 스킬 속도🚀가 빨라지고📈 그 다음에 공격력🗡 계수가 있어가지고 W가 그 이익-으아아아악😱😱---

[@TAWMUD]

Is this K’sante in the room with us right now?

[@eXecu7or]

@@TAWMUD have you watched the G2 vs SKT series?

[@ignacioperez5479]

Assasins: requires a Lot of gold Also assasins: serrated dirk power spike

[@ibrahim5463]

Dude the only expensive assassin iteam is profane

[@ignacioperez5479]

@@ibrahim5463 and Even that is only to stop non-lethality champs from using it, since it's on the same price range than the other hydras

[@dominiorrr6510]

Why would assassins require a lot of gold?

[@ignacioperez5479]

@@dominiorrr6510 vars said it in the video. His words, not mine. Thats exactly why this came to My mind

[@dominiorrr6510]

​@@ignacioperez5479 Yeah, but that's a weird thing to say when assassins have the cheapest items besides supports.

[@WholeGrainMeatloaf]

I've got personal beef with K'sante because Riot advertised me a "high-skill tank" and then handed me a bruiser that gets to build tank items

[@williammatkins6348]

Ima Ksante main and yeah I agree. They took away all of his “high skill” with the W changes

[@WholeGrainMeatloaf]

well my point is he isn't actually a tank, but you're right- his skill expression is also suffering in their attempt to reign in the nightmare they created

[@jose91807]

He was a high-skill tank but he had many changes

[@jose91807]

@@williammatkins6348 And flash, and maintaining the q stacks after using R

[@hoaxygen]

He's a tank-assassin when he ults. You can't kill him but you also can't move while he takes you down. So interactive and playable. Incredible champion design all around 🙄

[@OurflePlays]

A champion 👤 with 4700 HP 💪 329 Armor 🤷‍♂️ and 201 MR 💦 has Unstoppable🚫, a Shield 🛡️, and goes over walls 🧱, has Airborne 🌪️, and cooldown is only 1 second too🕐 It costs 15 Mana 🧙 The W CD is even refreshed when he transforms 💫 He has true damage 🗡️ on his Passive. Then, when he stacks 📈 Armor and MR 🥋 he gets Ability Haste too ⏰ Ability Haste to his Q ⏰ and his spell casting speeds up 🚀 Then, he has an AD ratio 🗡️ so he has W... W is like eee 😡 aaaaaaaaaaaa 😱😱

[@ibrahim5463]

We need a new one for skarner since he is k'sante 2.0(in toplane)

[@juicespiller456]

@@ibrahim5463 not much u can really say except 2 suppressions

[@ibrahim5463]

@@juicespiller456 slows, lots of slows

[@luukas2660]

​@@ibrahim5463He has 2 slows. That's the same amount as cho'gath.

[@nicklasveva]

@@ibrahim5463 Q and W? E is a suppression and is usually very situational. R is what it is. Nothing special, really. And he's supposed to be a tank, so I really don't see the problem.

[@AshBlossomWorshiper]

If everyone is 200 years, no one is 200 years

[@nicholasavasthi9879]

Ah, the DOTA school of balance

[@cloudynguyen6527]

@@nicholasavasthi9879 DOTA 2 has the resource to rework every single hero in their game to the point that if you stop playing DOTA 2 before 7.00 and got back to the game at this point, you'll realize how different every hero play. My problem with League is that it admits the game has power creep but Riot doesn't have the resource to update every champions. We'll be lucky to have at max 2 reworks per year while they keep churning out 4 new champions every year.

[@hoaxygen]

I wish they all were 200 years, but some champions feel like 2000 years for no good reason.

[@ravenoushydra7948]

I miss old league

[@ucinhnhu7544]

"your super power cant be that you have every super power" yeah tell that to Kaisa

[@alkobone5764]

Kaisa has poor range if we are being honest and her mobility is nothing like zeri Kaisa is more like better vayne Like belveth and master yi

[@lillyie]

kai'sa is balanced by the fact she can't have all of them at once if you go for onhit/crit your W and Q won't hurt as much. if you for full AP your W will hurt but that's really all the damage you have. you have to choose

[@mete8901]

@@lillyiewhat do you mean you can’t have all 3? You can go basic crit or on hit and just buy zhonya or nashor and you have the upgrade

[@tenderandmoist5011]

Kai'sa's one and only weakness is her low auto range, which would be a problem if she didn't have a full-screen undodgable nuke and an invis + speed buff + steroid in 1 basic ability

[@melindasteinle-holder9514]

​@@lillyie on-hit build gives her all 3 tho. Kraken, Rageblade, Nashor, Blade and maybe terminus or whatever and she has all 3.

[@GabrielHenrique-pq5bo]

every time i see a k'sante i think to myself ''why does he have to exist'', its like a kid inventing a super hero and wanting him to have every power, he has dash, unstopable, a projectile, stuns, pushes, launch ppl airborne, can kidnap them through walls, has true damage, can shield allies, himself, get offensive stats while building full tank, insane stick potential, highly mobile, good numbers on every skill, blitzcrank slows himself because its too powerful for him to miss Q and still chase the oponent with is W, like wtf

[@sortilien2099]

The shyvana issue is you feel punished in human form.

[@realantagonist5324]

Elise is the same way. The web is the only useful human form ability before late game.

[@Diopside.]

@@realantagonist5324 u are so wrong, it's just hilarious to read.

[@theshadynorwegian6036]

@@realantagonist5324 Elise has a flowing combo to her kit. she's built with an intuitive combo from human to spider, and once her burst combo ends she's in her spider form which has more dps and movespeed. I agree that her spider into human feels bad, but her human form does have a clear purpose.

[@tuanatnguyen1900]

True tho. Also if you building ap then without ult you're just a more dmg caster creep.

[@Diopside.]

@@theshadynorwegian6036 Correct answer, +1

[@nathanielskinner6868]

I've been waiting for Shyv rework since before they made the fated poll. I love the idea and the ideas of her moves, but AP Shyv is a burst mage and AD Shyv doesnt have the damage output. She is so dependent on her ult. But then it doesn't charge while dead, so you get penalized extra for taking any hits. Killing dragons for stats is a cool mechanic, but at lower levels half the players fight obsessively over dragon spawns and the other half completely ignore it. You end up being forced to contest all dragons, without the teammates to make it worth it.

[@BoneWalker]

Pta Shyvana goes hard. Instant procs with aa+q.

[@Gojiradogzillagodzilla]

@@BoneWalker Making her 5% less shit doesnt make her "go hard"

[@Mizticall]

I think a big flaw in Shyvana is that she is literally USELESS without ult. I know she's still pretty terrible when she's in dragon form but at least she can throw big AOE explosions at people and do damage with those if she's fed. When she's in human form she literally does nothing at all to the point where I genuinely see her as a troll pick

[@grauenritter9220]

the reason zeri was on the patch notes so much was becaue of riot favoritism and a refusal to give her an honest nerf for a year. there were so many nerf patches that compensated her so hard, youd think she was someones waifu.

[@thejedisonic67]

Vayne is certainly up there. She's supposed to be the ad carry you pick against tankier comps, but the problem is and always will be the fact that she's a ranged champion that can do max% health true damage on her autos. So now this specified anti tank champion turns into anti anything, especially with other parts of her kit like her ult making her invisible, hence untargetable. If I were to rework her, either the max % health true damage is replaced outright, or it only comes up when she ults for a few seconds. Id replace it with a W that still does the 3 auto procs, but one that deals more damage to targets with more health than Vayne or something.

[@merdricon]

I agree, all the "tank shredding" % hp damage in the game should be centered around bonus HP, NOT max HP

[@Heightren]

MaxHP% and True Damage should be mutually exclusive, so that a Tank can itemize armor against MaxHP% and HP vs True Damage

[@julianosoares6684]

Her W is Just uncounterable, only option is preventing her from AAing or Killing her fast enough, such an annoying champ

[@yorhaunit21o32]

She’s short range. Easily killed by burst and mages. Adc’s can kill her simply by staying well out of range while their support locks them down. It’s not vaynes fault ur bad.

[@GameBreaker1055]

@@yorhaunit21o32 Right, ADCs can just stay out of hte range of the marksman that moves faster towards them than they can run from her and also has a low CD dash that turns her invisible and with that close to untargetable for ADCs!

[@iaifia3224]

Oh look, my mains. Zeri, Pyke, and Shyvanna

[@mariannapapikyan4123]

Interesting mains, people usually have mains from the same role they play but you have an ADC, a support and a jangler I rarely see that

[@realantagonist5324]

I use to play alot of Zeri but the repetitive Q spam damaged my Q button in keyboard.

[@mariannapapikyan4123]

@@realantagonist5324 Evelynn mains shake hands with Zeri mains Though Zeri obviously uses Q more

[@atlasrains]

Oh, that’s gore. That’s gore of my comfort character

[@Sohzy]

@@mariannapapikyan4123 as an evelynn main i can confirm, the q spam is real and i feel bad for the people who live in the same house as me👍

[@lotion5238]

I think League of Legends is poorly designed IMO Edit: This was more of a joke, because this game has a lot of nuance and I compare it often to chess with the "board" (summoners rift) and how while you can change characters it's always the same board. But I dislike how they're homogenizing the new content and it's making it less fun to play over time.

[@researchbashio]

The game is ass

[@theSafetyCar]

Elaborate?

[@jackpino-wn8bu]

It wouldn’t be this addicting

[@MarcNSmith]

You don’t need to say ‘I think’ and ‘IMO’… they literally mean the same thing?

[@Xinxax]

Mobile Legends Bang Bang is better designed, but still have issues of its own Doesnt mean its as flawed as a game where an assassin/skirmisher could 1v5 with 1 item

[@astormight1149]

the worst thing for pyke I think it's that you can't trade with him. You catch him, he can W and/or E so you can't chase him, waite 8 seconds to recover his CD and due to his passive gets back full life. Moreover as he takes advantage of the lethality support item, the little amount of ward you can put before he spawns on you because he was hiding nowhere, he can take them off with one AA without even having to use his trinket. As a support player it is very fustrating to play against a champion that can just do more things that you do, because riot allowed them to do so. It's not like pyke doesn't have any counter. It's just that the only way is ignoring him and hoping that none of your teammates would be low life if you don't want to give him a penta.

[@alingasalonielkervint.3139]

Blue archive lobby music goes hard

[@JackiEEEEEEE]

Blue archive music goes hard

[@josefarias5216]

I hate that Riot finally did it, they made Tank Yasuo, and is just as frustrating as the windsh*tters if not more

[@DavidGlendaleArdenaso]

I really dislike how Sejuani W deals physical damage, prevents her from doing basic attacks, and uses her weapon - but scales with ability power (besides health)

[@heidtb6746]

To be fair in that specific case... She usually builds neither AD nor AP

[@DavidGlendaleArdenaso]

@@heidtb6746 no but imagine shojin or black cleaver with her

[@juuchanIRL]

whoever made yuumi should feel ashamed forever.

[@ggwp638BC]

Honestly, I don't think Pyke is as bad as people make him out to be, and I say this as a Vel'Koz main. Pyke's problem is that Riot never commits to make him a proper roam support like Bard. In an ideal world, Pyke's role should not be as a late game assassin, but having a strong early gaming allowing him to roam fast and apply pressure evenly at the cost of making his ADC vulnerable. His damage would allow for powerful ganks and sharing gold, but then he falls off mid game and spins towards a peel support, using Q and E to help the adc, then R to finish escaping enemies. Making his passive generate reward the kill towards the champion that gave the most damage, instead of rewarding him plus one assist, would also basically fix the gold gen issue entirely. But Riot can't commit to the idea of having a champion that doesn't exceed in every possible role or make a champion that isn't the protagonist, so they give him too much damage or too little of it. In the end they want Pyke to be the Main Zed's go to sup autofill pick, and for that reason he won't ever be good.

[@MiaJiyar_XOXO]

Blue archive music goes hard.

[@yigitgns0123]

Uohhh 😭💢

[@AlryFireBlade]

To Pyke (yes with Y, its wrong in the chapters): I will never understand, who thought putting the most not supportive playstyle of support on a suupport champion, on the lane where his number 1 targets are, was a good idea. He is so frustrating to play against. It is even hard to poke hhiim out of lane due to his passiv. and high base HP. Then he even gernate gold. Make him a Mid Laner and I would still hhate him for beeing ann assassin, but at least, he is where he should belong.

[@treymtz]

You know, I never considered Assassins as a class that needs a lot of gold, just one that needs a normal amount. But rather they have the need to spend all their gold on offensive burst in order to be useful, because their kits are designed for engaging and disengaging they can get away with it. All in all, an excellent video. I think Illaoi feels out of place though, just because I don't think there is anything inherently wrong with her inconsistency. That in and of it self can be extremely fun when you hit your highs. At the end of the day, this is a video game and it NEEDS to be fun above everything else. I kind of like their approach nowadays with some of the champs designs not being so constraining, because it appeals to the casual audience more than the hyper competitive in a sense. Especially with how much more simpler they've gone with ability usage. Though League needs to be balanced at the higher levels of play to feel rewarding, I think champion designing aiming for casual audiences without constraints is a good thing.

[@Arob4343]

Kayle scaling Shyvana dragon is interesting. I think I’d like it

[@mirramig]

I love how instead of forming an actual opinion on ksantes design and how hes been handled by the balance team he just plays the showmaker clip. classic

[@muizzkazi5432]

The biggest issue with K'Sante is that in his ultimate he does %max health true damage. Why? Keep everything else if you don't want to kill the champion and all of the skill expression, just remove that portion. Even if K'Sante loses 35% HP, and Bonus Resistance, he still has a knockup/pull on his Q3, he still negates CC and can dash through units, while dealing damage, which also reduces incoming damage. And he still has a dash that gives him a shield to negate large chunks of burst damage.

[@fasce]

So it's not useless against all top tanks? All tanks has %dmg

[@muizzkazi5432]

@@fasce they have either physical or magic damage. No tank has %max health true damage.

[@fasce]

It's only for 15 seconds and after you lost more than half hp and 85% of your resistancies. You can't expect to go all out and gets nothing in return.

[@moobo3944]

I mean you made a video about her only 10 days ago. Bel Veth. She is such a nothing addition to the game and her gameplay does not match her fantasy at all. She's the only champion where if she were to receive a rework I would want every single ability scrapped and done over.

[@cloudynguyen6527]

True. I feel like Yorick is the best inspiration if they want to remake Bel'veth. When I look at Bel'veth, I'm thinking of Nature Prophet from DOTA 2 who would spawn fuck ton of walking trees to sneakily push while aslo has variety of tools to get in and out of the fight. Or Abarthur in HOTS though I wouldn't mind if they don't take inspiration from him. I really really despise Abarthus... it's like Yuumi but more volatile and safe.

[@ldalexandrite]

@@cloudynguyen6527 but riot games do not allow actually creative champs becsuse that would require them to come up with actually creative counters.

[@MostMoba]

... We get fucking autoataker in year 2023. She has aoe cc, 4 dashes dmg mitigation true dmg and infinity atck speed. Btw she still not really good since this is one of examples where you actually CAN kait champion that supposed to be kited. You can't kite Darius or Garen. You CAN'T kite WW or Udir. Another point that bel with only 2 items can make your tank with 2 items 100-0% in just 3-4 seconds, if she can hit, and this is not K'sante. I play her if get JG. More often i play kayle. A good example of design. She actually works as her concept declare. Powerful late weak early. And fucking suck to champion with same idea ( fuck this dog, why his 3 so broken with -90% move and atk spd).

[@trash4484]

Now we also got hwei that is literally nothing new to the game. They wanted to make some invoker wannabe by copying Merlin from Smite but managed to make second lux with 0 counterplay and infinite spam with no mana costs.

[@ignacioperez5479]

Ksante, yone (he must appears ALWAYS)

[@ttalentlessl]

amen (only place where they must appear is fkng hell)

[@happybalint]

"lack of mobility" *shows garen who usually buys dead mans plate and runs you down*

[@HuyNguyen-jl7go]

That’s top lane when you have to walk into his kill zone to cs, so mobility doesn’t matter. Try garen vayne match up to see how good his mobility is .

[@spartantnt1023]

@@HuyNguyen-jl7go This is genuinely why I often play Garen jungle. He's vary hard to kite... with levels and proper items. He's extremely easy to kite early game, when he has neither of those things. In the jungle however, you can avoid bad matchups like Vayne, Tristana(it's worse than Vayne tbh), Twisted Fate, Teemo, Quinn... you know basically anything ranged whatsoever. Graves, Kindred, and so on are also easier to run down because they're often VERY far away from the safety of a tower.

[@TheAngelRaven]

Champions like Lux, Senna, and Pyke are prime examples of 'Designed for Support, but clearly not'. Senna is just an ADC that GENUINELY scales, Pyke was gone over, and Lux is just a Midlane mage that someone at Riot gets their rocks off to whenever they make sure she gets a buff she had zero need for.

[@heidtb6746]

Sometimes, the Meta for support completely shifts from "i can help my ADC" to "I don't need much gold to carry"

[@maxschnell3658]

just take sennas healing on q away and the support problem is fixed

[@wallachia4797]

Lux was never "designed for support" lmao. Shitters tend to play her on "support" because of the CC, but she isn't nor was ever intended to be a supp champ.

[@baptistecochennec5956]

Lux was never designed for support and the role of a support is to help the team which pyke and senna absolutely do

[@Dragonoid269]

@@baptistecochennec5956 Arguably any champion can help the team though, that is an extremely low standard to set. Maybe you can exclude champs like Yi and Shyvanna with that standard, but practically all tanks, bruisers and mages have some form of cc they can use to help the team (though some would argue death is the best cc in the game and in that term master Yi can work too).

[@supremeleaderfokou5693]

TLD He wants of the same 20 boring champs and pro play is important only when he wants to.

[@DJ_RH]

The worst designed champion clearly is Sett because he isn't naked 😱😡👻

[@jorgelaborde376]

For shyvana they should make it like k6 but a transformation ultimate, starts as a temportal one but as you get higher level it becomes permanent, also every 6 levels you upgrade a skill, as smolder and aurelion do with their stacks

[@metalmichew2]

I feel like illaoi can be easily changed to become a support, make the slow on E higher(also her tentacles hits can become a stun) way less damage on tentacles hits and make her ult like an ori ult kinda swipe of a tentacle, i think that could be hella fun

[@HuyNguyen-jl7go]

Free tentacles yum

[@jordanrutledge7943]

I actually love shyvana, I love how she can be tanky, have good bruiser potential, and be a sniper mage, all in one game and with one build, but you have to hide while charging up ult. I don’t think she is poorly designed but her passive is definitely lame by 2024 standards

[@theholyroman6283]

I would love a video about Taliyah’s redemption and newfound popularity going from a early game mage to a scaling macro mage

[@marethyuplays544]

I’m so sad with everything around zeri, she is so fun to play, but due to the things mentioned she is too strong a lot of the time. I loved her old passive, it gave some counter to shield heavy teams, but since that was on top of all the other stuff, they got rid of it…😢

[@arkokroeger9799]

Honestly my personal award goes to karthus. He is the definition of pressure without much counterplay. When you kill him, he still is allowed to freefire on you and his ult blasts everyone on the enemy team. Like, what i am supposed to do against a karthus jungle? Pick briar and perma invade him until the game ends?

[@NRVNQSRR]

This is K'Sante, a champion with 4,700 HP, 329 Armor, and 201 MR, has Unstoppable, a Shield, and goes over walls. Has Airborne, and the cooldown is only 1 second too. It costs 15 Mana. The W CD is even refreshed when he transforms. He has true damage on his passive. Then, when he stacks Armor and MR, he gets Ability Haste too, Ability Haste to his Q, and his spell casting speeds up. Then, he has an AD ratio, so his W…AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[@hunterkinsella5303]

Shyvana is definitely volatile in gameplay. I don't much appreciate getting hit with the damage of a max distance nidalee spear at full build... During laning phase with a 1 1/2 item ap shyv.

[@JustinSeizure]

I don't understand why they haven't just removed Zeri's "dash over wall" part. It would make her at least somewhat balanced.

[@vincvids7297]

the pain in his scream was so real

[@KaVun32]

The mentioned entity possesses an impressive 4,700 hit points, symbolizing its robustness and resilience. Additionally, it boasts a formidable armor rating of 329, providing substantial protection against physical attacks. Furthermore, it exhibits a noteworthy magic resistance of 201, rendering it highly resistant to magical assaults. This entity is characterized by its unstoppable nature, making it impervious to hindrances and obstacles. Notably, it possesses a shield that

[@SourPatchKun]

Zeri lost her shield stealing capabilities even after her 850 range nerf. Lost a lot of her damage on W. Runaans not giving additional stacks when hitting people during ult. Lost Spellblade on q. The fact that she's was on 52% wr when Stattik Shiv and pre hp nerf was meta can attest how busted still can be.

[@IYPITWL]

I love how riot had to admit zeri is a hypercarry like vayne. Its not what they intended but it is the play pattern.

[@Dat_Vi]

I thought I left my Blue Archive on and was confused lol

[@mldanny1899]

I feel to fix Illaoi, her ult should be a minor steroid ult, applying the vessel passive when if her ult hits them (without the slow that would be too broken) and having her Q and W cast times greatly reduced, and possibly the duration extended on champion takedown.

[@rootin5851]

Well, maybe it's that notable in League only cause Tyrande exists and she is nice "assasin support" but also she's ranged , so no crazy dive combos like pyke does, only good old healing , which comes of cooldown faster if she's on offensive, plus mark what shreds targets armour making even tanks to retreat.

[@miniloot1]

Actually a huge problem with Pyke is that you can't build HP because of his passive, so you literally can't be tanky and all the nerfes make it impossible to build tank because you need the full assassin items to be more than a caster minion... I miss my tank Pyke top ... It was so fun ...

[@Taylor-bw4zg]

i just gotta say i love how Nagakabouros is all about constantly moving and chasing what u want yet illoai's kit just says "no im gonna stand right here and never leave" lmao

[@ldalexandrite]

Nope I think it’s perfect. It forces you to move. That’s literally Illaoi’s job in lore too. Try standing still _against_ an illaoi and see what happens

[@Taylor-bw4zg]

@@ldalexandrite i guess it depends on ur view, yeah she forces others to move but shes the herald of a god of movement while she herself is completely stagnant in lane just standing there hoping u come to her "fcuk you zone" lol

[@buzzlightyearpfp7641]

smiled when Showmaker got brought up cause i already knew what the clip was gonna be

[@MinhucVoPham]

Never thought i would hear a blue archive ost on a league video

[@soixev6330]

I come from smite where it is not uncommon to see some assassin play support, but the thing is they had to build like a support. And that is my main problem with pyke, at his release he wasn't forced to build full damage and lethality items, we had the option to build him more tanky without losing his strengh. In my opinion, Pyke was more balanced at his release but because Riot want the funny everyone one-shot, Pyke was forced to build lethality items.

[@jacquelynthompson5346]

Just like “Morgana”, I think we should start using the phrase “200 years” to describe Genshin characters

[@slaaneshshewhothirst9136]

I would add a few other champs, Teemo, Singed, Zed and Akali. Teemo and Singed are annoying to fight against because they have the most unreactive lane to play against and are basically unable to be chased without losing your life. Teemo as perma-invis if standing still or in a bush without attacking, not to mention how strong his shrooms are right now. Akali and Zed (case could be made against Leblanc, Yasuo, Yone) have 10 000 dashes and becomes untargettable at some point in their kit (Akali’s Shroud and Zed ults). It makes them almost impossible to play against when playing a Mage. They hit 6 and even if you won lane, are level 8 and have an item on them they kill you in 2 abilities.

[@bart10050]

I think the 200 years champions should still be protested. There is a market for them for sure, but as a recently returning player, I already have to catch up on the item changes, let alone get murdered while the enemy is jumping all around me. I'm sure it will be even worse for new players. I really think they shouldn't become the norm.

[@luckyprisma4807]

It's sad to think that Zeri has to be nerfed to the ground and her kit being changed multiple times on PC while Wild Rift has her original kit

[@DracosKasurani]

It just show how different are the mechanic between a touch screen and a mouse and keyboard aka more action per sec.

[@tristan6773]

I have an idea for shyvana rework let her be a rampaging melee tank. dragon form is tied to a FURY stacks she progressively gains her form by attacking minims/ monsters or taking damage or hitting spells on enemy champs fury fall off out of combat and she gains stats as she progresses into dragon form. health armor etc. her ult consumes all fury, explodes the dragon + heal. abilities get empowered as fury builds, but doesn’t consume fury. this is what I wanted smolder to be too. and his design fits the theme better cause he could just grow naturally in size to show his fury

[@joshua4987]

I dont think vars uses the term "badly designed" correctly I think he just picks whatever champions he hates to personally go against. I dont think what makes a champ badly designed is being volatile and inconsistent to their class there is 165+ champs in the game not all of them should have the same type of game state scaling. So I dont think Illaoi for example having a clear win con that is different than her peers is a negative. I think poorly designed champs are the ones like singed which vars has expressed is uninteractive and also un-fun for majority of the player base to use, or shyvanna who doesnt do a good job of incorporating her gameplay with her character fantasy at all.

[@Tomardes]

Illaoi has design problems, thats sure. League became much faster game, while Illaoi is absolutely static champion. She is super slowly, has zero cc, has no engage tool. Almost all her gameplay is reactive, not active (it can be changed only if your toplane opponent is absolutely not macthing with you and you stomping him like 5 0 at 5 min). She has huge problems to play when behind, she has quite bad durability tools in her kit (unlike many other jugs, tanks, bruisers she has only healing, which can be countered by GG and which scales from her missing health, so she basically obliged to fight on her edge to survive sometimes). And it all in game, where so many sourse of max HP% damage (sometimes true damage) and sources of just big true damage. And well, she is more than vulnerable to CC, cause CC forbids her to use her only tool to sustain (and now Riot removing tenacity sources, so it will be even more of a problem)

[@joshua4987]

@@Tomardes if the character is in a good state currently in the meta has nothing to do with if the characters design is flawed. Also her gameplay being reactive and not active is in itself not a problem once again characters need to have different win cons and strategies to make the massive cast feel diverse and unique. Not every character can be S-tier but illaoi is more than playable go look at Tyler1.

[@Tomardes]

@@joshua4987 im not saying, that Illaoi is bad or unplayable. She is good. She is in a decent spot, thats for sure. But with how current leagues works, her design is definetly leans towards "flawed" side. She is not "brainless" type of char, while her gameplay strategy is really close to it, while being quite an overloaded champion. And actually reactive gameplay is a flaw in some sense, cause it makes your agency much more lower. Only type of agency Illaoi has is a good pressure (if she played lane well and went ahed), being a true queen of static defensive pressure, specially if enemy team composition plays into her advantage. But when she cant do it - she is almost useless. And it is definetly a flaw.

[@baptistecochennec5956]

Illaoi is un interactive and extremely match-up dependant that's not really a good design even if it's not horrendous

[@kilowyatt1107]

haha that's funny, remember when her win rate plummeted into the 40s cause of the changes to river walls in top ? that sure is a great champion with no flaws at all that a small map change can gut a character

[@bosscoolaid1015]

What I learned from this: Riot needs to stop tinkering with assassin hybrids

[@a5tr4l]

Wasn’t expecting to hear Blue Archive music in the background

[@iapetes1]

Also zeri, the second problem is dead on but the first 'problem' is nonexistent. Being a caster adc doesn't mean you have to be mid game only. It's input, how you play, not output, what you can do. Smolder is an ad caster late game character too Zeris entire problem is that her whole identity is wrapped up in way too high mobility

[@LuckySoftpaw]

I feel like Senna has the same issue Pyke does, adc wants tons of gold but support gets none.

[@astronebula858]

It's a crime that this channel doesn't have a million subscribers.

[@jametsu]

having shivana transform with her R similar to nidalee would be kinda cool

[@muratemreyurdalan2734]

Rito can design a champion with very simple individual skills but when those skills are combined the gameplay of a champion can be complex and fun. i.e. Jax, mundo, amumu, trundle. We dont want 3 paragraphs long skills. We need simple champions with a unique identity

[@w-o-n-s-z-u]

i hope they will eventually rework pyke into being a midlaner. his kit is way too unhealthy for support, which just makes him one of those champs that have to be kept weak, and it sucks because hes arguably one of the most fun champs to play

[@PrivateDaisy]

I love this guy, there is no other champion in the game like him. When you play him on occasion, between more conventional supports, the dopamine rush you get is insane.

[@matthewkukowski4638]

Imo Pyke makes more sense as a roaming Midlaner or ganking Jungler than a support

[@baptistecochennec5956]

Pyke kit makes absolute sense as a support

[@Aletonsi]

yeah thats a big no. Do you remember how pyke used to be a TRIPLE flex champ? top/mid/supp? hell how tf are you supposed to adapt on draft vs a champ like that

[@schmittywobberganggermanson]

Illaoi in my opinion is the most balanced champ right now. If you miss an ability you straight up lose if you hit all of your abilities you're basically 1v9. Unlike Irelia Yone or Gwen who misses everything but will kill you with auto attacks that has true damage crit AD and AP. And also there is Garen 👍.

[@roipipi5898]

worst design of all time, aatrox ksante fiora, akali, camille, akshan, zeri, smolder, nafiri, briar, yuumi(can we even call this "design"), yone, ryze

[@scl0074]

You know, Pyke makes me sad because i love his design and his gameplay and his thematic but I don't like support, so i live and die by the new lethality Hydra item in mid

[@nTu4Ka]

Illaoi can be a cool zoning bruiser if they rework her R. Something like Camile's ult + big tentacles spapping that you need to dodge. Currently she's just a disengage champ with big cooldown.

[@bmac4]

Also THANK YOU, Ive been saying this about Illaoi for YEARS That champ would be permabanned in my games if people actually played her. One of the least fun champs to play in the game because of how all or nothing she is and how you have to play against her as if she can be the "all" almost any time. Not OP at all just fucking anti fun.

[@StonedDragons]

I would have to say a carry support isn't new, be it in an assassin form is given how often Brand is played support, you might even throw Lux into there as well. The problem I see is that they deliberately nerf into the ground any other support who looks capable of carrying, take a look at Sona's AP ratios being nuked into the ground so she can't mid for instance despite never being the issue Pyke Mid was. That riot has chosen one role and said 'thou shalt never carry' instead of finding a better way to allow any support to keep up in gold and do so... Even the current busted support items not quite closing that gap.

[@muratemreyurdalan2734]

champion skills used to be 3 words long. now they are 3 paragraphs long. a casual player would never read aphelios' or huawei's skill details

[@habu9344]

As a pyke one trick since for the last 3 years I really think he needs to just be reworked into a midlaner or jungler. They could actually make him a semi-healthy champion for the game if this was the case.

[@sepantass3601]

As a Pyke main I agree that Pyke shouldnt exist. But they REALLY made a good character. The gameplay feels exactly like how you would picture his story

[@CalypsoTheWanderingStar]

Tbh, as an Illaoi main, I feel like they need to give her the Diana treatment and make the e her ult and vice versa and tweak/rebalance her around that

[@trentmarsh3752]

As a Illaoi main myself, i think she has a perfect cohesive kit that is hard to find in League

[@CalypsoTheWanderingStar]

@@trentmarsh3752 oh ya no I agree, she's a ton of fun, have mained her since release and have over 1.1 million mp on her. I'd just wish she could brawl more than sit back and poke, or that I wasn't as reliant as sitting in one place without anyways to actually keep people close to me ya know?

[@MartialArtsForY]

as a masters top laner who plays as and against her fairly often, her e and ulty need to be changed. Q and W are fine as well as her passive but he E eats up far too much of her power budget and her ulty will never be an "ultimate" without her e. Change it up and she will be vastly fairer to play against and can have strength put into her kit elsewhere.

[@baptistecochennec5956]

​@@trentmarsh3752her kit is cohevise nobody said otherwise it's just not fun to play agaisnt and VERY match-up dependant

[@Invisius1]

the biggest thing that has to happen to illaoi, is that the tentacles should not continue with the hit, if you kill them mid swing. So stupid to kill it, and suddenly you lose 20% as your health as a squishy to a literal ghost.

[@j.a.velarde5901]

Sadly, Riot doesn't give two flying f***ks... they just keep making money at our expense.

[@zucchini2339]

How do you make a champion who punishes lack of “motion” have a playstyle of standing still

[@jespereriksson3305]

Assassins require alot of gold, 5 carries instead of 4 and one support etc. Mage supports meanwhile:

[@Crowned_Hearts]

as Syndrome says: "When everyone is 200 years, No one will be"

[@AlexanderMartinez-kd7cz]

imma stop you right there, Illaoi is a great champion. her only problem is that her E is the worst ability ever made. if her E was a simple hook she would be great.

[@mrfabian2555]

I understand that pyke breaks rules but i think its not that bad. He punishes mistakes realy hard and i see no problem in it. If he dont gets ahead he is pritty weak. And playing him is one of the best experiences in league, playing as a feed pyke is just incredible enjoyable.

[@Ruzbe_r]

When some ability is hard to trigger you make it more rewarding. Riot gone wrong way with Zeri. For her Qs are skillshots and are not guaranteed to land. They must make her an early champ instead of late game champ. Give her Q as much damage as Draven's or even more.

[@doctornoodlearms1770]

What a champion can't do > what a champion can do

[@SrVerataro]

"If there's no enemies left in lane, i don't need to support." -Me, Kled support main (2023)

[@crazzluz1702]

Your point about Zeri's range is straight up misinformation, her Q is a skillshot so distance is calculated model center-to-center, while AA range is calculated model edge-to-edge. Her range pre-nerf was roughly comparable to 575 AA range, and now it's roughly comparable to 525. You can test this pretty easily. Go into a custom with a friend, have them pick a 550 range ADC. Have them right click you so they walk up to max range and auto, and try to Q them back without moving. You can't. You can even see it in the video, she's hitting the turret with 3 of the 7 bullets only, not even half of her auto attack.

[@Peter-zg3em]

Fighting Ksante is like fighting an office building

[@opera4591]

Remember that Samira cant E to her allies anymore

[@yuanlee2093]

Corki's 12 Polygons

[@thejedisonic67]

A design so bad and toxic that they're undoing his rework, very few champion rework are just undone like that. GG riot

[@Stocky39]

I just hope when shyv finally gets her rework that the stupid full AP build gets deleted entirely. I hate that the big strong looking dragon plays like a poke mage. It also has the tendency to feel either extremely useless or actually unbeatable with how much range/zone control she gets to dish out insane burst damage. Such a frustrating build to play against

[@micahschwartz5627]

I’ve said this about Illaoi for years, I still think the E is one of if not the most punishing abilities in the game and makes fighting her unbearable throughout the entire game

[@genryu13]

I personally think that Pyke himself isn't the issue, but the support role as a whole is pigeon holed into a specific idea which just so happens to becomes synonymous with 'lack of agency.' There is a reason support has always been one of the most disliked roles, and it is specifically because it cannot excel without costing the rest of the team what they need or warping the meta, like the Ardent Censer meta. ADCs need gold to stay relevant, especially nowadays where they literally can't contribute in any way if they don't get ahead since everyone can take objectives now and everyone can fast push waves. Any time a support takes a kill, that was gold that could allow the ADC to stay afloat, which is one of the reasons why ADCs are one of the most volatile teammates you get in Solo Queue. I think Pyke actually answers a lot of the problems the support role has, which is a support who carries a form of agency but not at the cost of his ADC's agency. Most ADCs (who aren't obsessed with something as mundane as their KDA) are only upset because the kill gold is granted to the support, but they'd have little reason to complain if somehow the kill gold was given to them. An idea might be that when supports buy their gold generation item, they pick a champion and bind themselves to that champion, like Knight's Vow. While they are bound in this way to an ADC, if they are about to kill an enemy champion they grant the kill gold to the bound ADC (think like the support items that let them execute minions to grant their ADCs gold). You can them balance damage supports by granting them some form of bonus gold on the kill. You could then remove the bonus gold Pyke gives with his ultimate, cause it would then be bound to the support item, which would fix the whole issue Riot has with Pyke going to other lanes aside from bot. If need be, you could also include something to help distinct the champions that like to go damage support like Brand, Vel'Koz, and Zyra from their role in mid, like maybe adding some sort of damage modification to this support item, like maybe making it where all damage you deal while you have this item in your inventory is reduced to 90% or something like that, so that those champions don't get nerfed in the mid lane for shenanigans their bot lane counterparts are up to. Damage supports would have an actual place in bot lane rather than just being a sort of forced inclusion that is trying to compete with their ADC rather than compliment them, and you'd have a lever by which to adjust them as a whole if they get a bit out of hand, like adjusting the damage adjustment of their from 90% to 85% or something. This could just be a garbage take, but it's my two cents.

[@dimondsi]

Unlike pyke, the greatest failure league refuses to fix, i think shyv is one or two more changes away from perfection. I dont want her base kit to change, it already does so much right. I think they need to make her dragon form more appealing to stay in. If she could charge another ult dash through autos while in dragon form, and her W time limit cap was removed during dragon form, then she might be the best balanced champ in the whole game. Rewarding combat and embracing her dragon fury Also more stacking resistance cuz her current passive is weak af.

[@TheSorrowfulAngel]

As for Pyke, I think they just... handled him badly. Pyke actually has a good supportive output. His CC is pretty great. However, they wanted to prevent him from being just thresh in underwater, so they made it impossible for him to buy health and, as that alone didnt do the trick, they made him scale his utility on lethality, firmly forcing lethality items on him. Where they went wrong is, in my opinion, giving him so much one-shotting power. His R especially is overtuned af, its a TON of damage. I'd classify pyke, from a healthy design pov, more as an initiator and less as an assassin. Pyke should not easily reach a level of damage where he downright bursts a squishy down, that is just not good for the game from the support position. He should be a lot closer to tank than assassin - he does have the utility, pick and engage power for that. But instead of facetanking damage forever, he needs to use his mobility and defensive utility to survive - very similar to Rakan, actually. Balancing toward Pyke being more of a "high damage initiator" than an "assassin" just makes a lot more sense from the support position.

[@Hoibz]

I agree with your list, but I would add Naafiri to it. She has permanent triple green shells from Mario Kart around her, making non-aoe skillshot essentially useless vs her. The least enjoyable hard counter.

[@Art51151]

Literally anyone who thinks new skarner is similar to new volibear is completely wrong. Both new and old skarner have always had this disgust towards humans pentiont for cruelty & thats what made skarner compelling, this tragic dislike toward human cruelty.

[@SadClap]

What the fuck are you even trying to say, dude? i had three strokes reading that shit lmao.

[@gordonfreeman98]

I just hate Zeri's weird boots that are clearly a dumb fanservice and makes absolute no sense for a Piltover/Zaun character

[@firesong7825]

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