Which Champions Had The Best Rework? | League of Legends

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@Exil22
@Exil22 3 жыл бұрын
I liked the rework where they made Nidalee mid get re-released as Zoe
@ethanzyt7586
@ethanzyt7586 3 жыл бұрын
also where they remade vi's ult and gave it to sett
@VarsVerum
@VarsVerum 3 жыл бұрын
So *that's* why Zoe felt so familiar >_>
@kevinlobos5519
@kevinlobos5519 3 жыл бұрын
True, I recently picked up Zoe and while she is not as stupid as she was on release, I feel guilty enjoying her kit so much. It's so much fun to calculate the angles and posibilities of Q.
@lip0110
@lip0110 3 жыл бұрын
Or they rework Sona to the cash cow known as Seraphine
@sladevalen
@sladevalen 3 жыл бұрын
I joined league too late so I didn't get to play mid nidalee but I wish they released a mode to let us rollback the updates to league say 5 or 6 years ago so I could see it in action
@rhythmribbon6282
@rhythmribbon6282 3 жыл бұрын
The best rework will now always be fiddlesticks. They kept everything that people loved about him while making his theme actually work. close behind is warwick and yorick.
@sinnithael7707
@sinnithael7707 3 жыл бұрын
I miss the bouncing crow :(
@Relhio
@Relhio 3 жыл бұрын
They manage to keep the whole identity of the kit intact for every champion after reworks, which is amazing. But yes, Fiddlesticks I feel was the one that was the least changed and yet so much has changed, probably because all his abilities do exactly the same thing they did before in a more effective way.
@spicytunah8043
@spicytunah8043 3 жыл бұрын
@@Relhio Really all they did was get rid of the part of fiddle everyone hated (his bouncing crows), gave him an e that’s far less impactful but still fine and just overall works better for his kit, took his passive and threw it onto his r (which is all it was used for anyway), gave his q the fear passive for all of his abilities, let him suck off everyone around him, gave him a super ward that can jumpscare you, and gave him a paint job. It’s amazing how much changed with how little they really did.
@wasgeht3357
@wasgeht3357 3 жыл бұрын
@@spicytunah8043 suck off everyone around him hehe
@samuelclark1170
@samuelclark1170 3 жыл бұрын
I mean sure but they didnt fix any of his issues really, hes a front line mage thats very immobile and squishy and must rely on ambush tactics that can be easily countered with vision.
@magisteriumemporium1411
@magisteriumemporium1411 3 жыл бұрын
In terms of thematic Warwick, fiddle, and Pantheon. These 3 are in the top
@fischereliassen4370
@fischereliassen4370 3 жыл бұрын
Actually Fiddle and Warwick both usually go jungle.
@kereazydiamund8212
@kereazydiamund8212 3 жыл бұрын
@@fischereliassen4370 lmao nice
@walkingchopsticks6731
@walkingchopsticks6731 3 жыл бұрын
100% agree. those champs kept the majority of their previous identity
@TaconIStenen
@TaconIStenen 3 жыл бұрын
Volihwarmismuo there too, IMO
@mrbaconbeast8902
@mrbaconbeast8902 3 жыл бұрын
urgot
@123hattan
@123hattan 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely not Aurelion Sol.
@stormdragon2529
@stormdragon2529 3 жыл бұрын
i think he meant the big reworks . not the mini-reworks
@insertenombreoriginal5897
@insertenombreoriginal5897 3 жыл бұрын
No, was a mini rework. We talk about complete visual and gameplay reworks
@Relhio
@Relhio 3 жыл бұрын
@@greatsoup7540 You don't even know what his kit was meant to be :P Ao Shin wasn't released because the engine couldn't support what they wanted to do with him; although Aurelion's tail still does that retarded glitchy thing.
@fitmotheyap
@fitmotheyap 3 жыл бұрын
W toggle when
@8bitt625
@8bitt625 3 жыл бұрын
@@Relhio he’s taking about how he was gutted is s9 and hasn’t rly been good since
@braylenlevi3229
@braylenlevi3229 3 жыл бұрын
I like the new popstar Sona rework. Feel like they really nailed in her kit and aesthetic 👌
@VarsVerum
@VarsVerum 3 жыл бұрын
I chuckled a bit XD
@braylenlevi3229
@braylenlevi3229 3 жыл бұрын
@@VarsVerum I just found it a little odd they made me purchase the champ again 🤷‍♀️
@elmostachojuanoh
@elmostachojuanoh 3 жыл бұрын
LMAOO
@ouchiegiverjr
@ouchiegiverjr 3 жыл бұрын
I mean they really don’t feel that similar
@davidolde4173
@davidolde4173 3 жыл бұрын
@@ouchiegiverjr Yeah, the reworked version feels strong while the old version feels weak. Very different feeling
@VarsVerum
@VarsVerum 3 жыл бұрын
Just a heads up, A LOT of reworks are really really good. I know I'm gonna get a lot of people asking me "but what about __?" I could only choose five! T_T
@joekenwood4956
@joekenwood4956 3 жыл бұрын
its ok as long as its a Vars list video
@ntdb0ss
@ntdb0ss 3 жыл бұрын
Don't worry. This is undesputed the best. Fiddle is second because silence feels less impactfull (fear change is good, but silence brought dread) and voli is only awsome because ohmwrecker is gone.
@KingOfDemons123
@KingOfDemons123 3 жыл бұрын
But the reworked champs on the thumbnail all ended up being top-tier junglers at one point lul
@justabeholder4753
@justabeholder4753 3 жыл бұрын
@@ntdb0ss and then fiddle wasn't put in
@d4s0n282
@d4s0n282 3 жыл бұрын
question, what did you think of urgot rework? I honestly think urgot reworked is one of the better ones although he is a bit unnoticed
@kuumih0
@kuumih0 3 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised Fiddlesticks wasn't added. Imo he's one of the best visually and thematically. They turned this goofy scarecrow into nightmare fuel without changing much to his kit but added to it
@velconx15
@velconx15 3 жыл бұрын
I was not aware that Shen was reworked. I always thought he was like that
@Greenplumber64
@Greenplumber64 3 жыл бұрын
Probably caus they didnt bother giving him new voice lines
@Kegcruz121
@Kegcruz121 3 жыл бұрын
Lol me too
@devforfun5618
@devforfun5618 3 жыл бұрын
they just removed the projectile on Q that was basically Akali's Q, that she also doesn't have anymore, and gave him evasion instead of a shield on W
@vujadinradovic9998
@vujadinradovic9998 3 жыл бұрын
He came out the same patch as Jhin
@cosmicbrownie2312
@cosmicbrownie2312 3 жыл бұрын
No one ever talks about how Sion made a full turnaround to one of the better champ designs
@wellwellwelp
@wellwellwelp 3 жыл бұрын
He even kept his comedy theme, since you sometimes ult to escape while Sion scrams "COWAAAAARDS!!!"
@alyssarichardson2544
@alyssarichardson2544 3 жыл бұрын
BLASPHEMY. Sion only needed a visual/audio rework, his old kit was WAAAAAAAAY more fun, he's just a generic tank now, I miss old AD Sion, the rework totally fucking destroyed him, they should have just made a new champion instead of removing possibly the most fun kit that any champ has ever had, and I've been playing for 10 years now...
@alyssarichardson2544
@alyssarichardson2544 3 жыл бұрын
Hell even if they left him alone, Green Arnie was 1,000x more fun than the new lame as fuck generic ass tank kit. Played him a couple times and ALL the fun and soul of old Sion was gutted to "fit the meta"... so fucking lame, off-meta builds and customisation made the game so much fun, they've totally killed that element off... Caitlyn (top-lane lethality build) and full AP Dark Harvi Sona are the only real fun champions left besides Senna. Senna is fucking cool, besides that the game has gone waaaaaaay down hill. I mean they literally made a literal Belle Delphine insert champion, come on... if you're gonna base a champ of a real person Olga of Kiev and Xu Xiaodong would both make much more interesting inserts, although I can't imagine Tencent would do anything in relation to the latter..
@eVill420
@eVill420 3 жыл бұрын
@@alyssarichardson2544 did you miss the part where you can still go lethality full AD sion and it is rather viable? it's also WAAAAY more fun than the old Sion, that's like someone coming out and saying that a worse more boring Udyr was your favourite champion in the game. I guess there actually existed a person that for some reason liked old Sion O_O
@oniuserjh
@oniuserjh 3 жыл бұрын
@@alyssarichardson2544 his old kit outside of his cheesy q and w combo was garbage, and if he existed in that state now he would get obliterated by every top and mid laner
@peradomato
@peradomato 3 жыл бұрын
Pantheon is the ultimate rework, that's why he's my favorite champion, also because he is hot af
@luicifiero
@luicifiero 3 жыл бұрын
Ayo?????
@aksel6464
@aksel6464 3 жыл бұрын
Hol up
@entersandmanlml
@entersandmanlml 3 жыл бұрын
I agree, he is hot, and also a fun champ to play
@fabiopineda8466
@fabiopineda8466 3 жыл бұрын
Old Pantheon was way better, he had a clear role, assasin, now he is a fking support.. And if riot buff him he is broken, is not good or balance.
@Spyro18236
@Spyro18236 3 жыл бұрын
@@fabiopineda8466 100% true. I’m a panth otp and I’ve never heard a single panth main say that they like new panth better than old. Only people that like playing his on hit mid lane build every now and then which is a very small percentage of panth mains.
@bundo2230
@bundo2230 3 жыл бұрын
My top two characters in the game are Urgot and Yorick, absolute legends. Really great reworks that make them super cool and fun all around. Byonk man and angry crab are such good characters
@YungSleepyHollow
@YungSleepyHollow 3 жыл бұрын
Urgot first with Yorick second for me, love that solo carry potential
@lucasgerosa4177
@lucasgerosa4177 2 жыл бұрын
I think Yorick is almost really cool, but rn he just feels like illaoi, who just throws E over and over until the opponent is forced to recall, and he misses it, he's useless for 10s.
@Basherslice
@Basherslice 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like the Sion rework was one of the best ones they ever made.
@drunkengibberish1143
@drunkengibberish1143 3 жыл бұрын
*NNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOXXXUUUUUUUUUUUUSSSSSSS!!!*
@CorruptTypes
@CorruptTypes Жыл бұрын
@@drunkengibberish1143 CHOO CHOOOOO
@memehevi2251
@memehevi2251 3 жыл бұрын
Did we forget about Sion?
@VarsVerum
@VarsVerum 3 жыл бұрын
Nope! But I could only cover 5 :(
@drewblackmatter6669
@drewblackmatter6669 3 жыл бұрын
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOXUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUSSSSSSSS
@xXMrZentusXx
@xXMrZentusXx 3 жыл бұрын
Personally, Sion is my favorite rework but you could argue that it wasn't a rework but a release of an entirely new champion that was also a zombie. Which is good in old Sions case ^^"
@years-ti7xl
@years-ti7xl 3 жыл бұрын
Nahh only because TheBausffs exists.
@rektbiich4585
@rektbiich4585 3 жыл бұрын
@@drewblackmatter6669 skarniiii💝💝💝 do you want to hear the song of your people??
@Jaxelh
@Jaxelh 3 жыл бұрын
I think a rework worth mentioning is the Nunu and Willump rework. Before his rework, Nunu had no identity outside of Disco Nunu and "double" smite. He was good at capturing objectives and only that. But now Nunu and Willump are a charming champ that have a unique position in League. Also they're the cutest champ in the game now, so that's a plus
@The5lacker
@The5lacker 3 жыл бұрын
I don't think people realize really how nightmarish Poppy's old ult was. Like, imagine a new Morde ult, only he can go wherever he wants and damage enemies he wants. It was *absurd.*
@shanecoffing
@shanecoffing 3 жыл бұрын
Old galio was my main. That champ was hidden busted back in the day. His w could heal him on enemy auto attacks and made you do so much extra damage. It would be like if malphite had an ability that gave him 100 armor and healed him everytime he was hit with an ability. You could easily do well over 1.5k with his old ult. I'll miss him it was good times.
@tobybll
@tobybll 3 жыл бұрын
i remember how damn OP that dude was back in the days
@misunderstoodmadman6230
@misunderstoodmadman6230 3 жыл бұрын
as a char concept: swain, urgot and fiddle win
@drunkengibberish1143
@drunkengibberish1143 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine going from a blob to *OH NO HE'S HOT* by comparison.
@RetroWrathX13B
@RetroWrathX13B 3 жыл бұрын
Metsu
@nannobot1280
@nannobot1280 3 жыл бұрын
Imo in terms of character design: warwick, volibear and fidelsticks
@bernadettan6732
@bernadettan6732 3 жыл бұрын
Fiddlesticks is absolutely my favorite, the updated gameplay and theme are some of my favorite in the entire game
@federicoxausa2790
@federicoxausa2790 3 жыл бұрын
I Will always remember the Warwick rework as one of the best from riot, the others are Volibear, Fiddlesticks Poppy and Pantheon. Also: P5 OST in the background Is the icing on the cake, It makes this video very relaxing to watch
@davidaleksidze3381
@davidaleksidze3381 3 жыл бұрын
Volibear's passive has got to be one of the worst-designed. A proof that noone at Riot is aware of top lane laning experience.
@federicoxausa2790
@federicoxausa2790 3 жыл бұрын
@@davidaleksidze3381 I admit it's generic, it's similar to Mordekaiser's one in some way, but the kit overall seems fine to me
@ahubb21
@ahubb21 3 жыл бұрын
The Mord rework is still the best IMO. I just love everything about him now. His voice, theme, abilities, spell effects, it's all so cool. I used to rarely see him in my games, and any time I did; I always assumed it was a troll. Hell, pre-rework Mord had a lower pick rate than Udyr.
@danielzwirn5595
@danielzwirn5595 3 жыл бұрын
I firmly agree. Isn't much else to it. Morde rework was pog af.
@euronico7949
@euronico7949 2 жыл бұрын
Ikr, people whine about Morde rework because you can't 1 hit R people anymore which is bloody fuckin boring. I love this morde where you can feel like an unstoppable juggernaut.
@Underworlder5
@Underworlder5 2 жыл бұрын
@@euronico7949 the ghost mechanic on the R was also a bit volatile. it was only useful if you got a AD champ with it. happened to kill master yi or tryndamere with it? you just turned a killing machine against the enemy. got ryze or vel'koz? might as well not have used it
@abelexclusa9856
@abelexclusa9856 3 жыл бұрын
Sion will always be my favorite. Even from miss the days of playing a dorky Ap burst Mage or Ad Drain tank. He turned into a beast that could scale into an truly unkillable champ that looked cool doing it and Sion can be even more technical and rewarding a tank than shen. I feel if Riot puts more effort into Perfecting the Champs we have instead of making too many new ones, we will have a much more enjoyable game state for LoL.
@sclom5676
@sclom5676 3 жыл бұрын
Nunu, eve, ww, panth, and fiddle for me. With each one they took the idea for a champ and made sure to keep that consistent while adding more tools and skill expression. The thematics were also done very well on all of these.
@sclom5676
@sclom5676 3 жыл бұрын
@@carnage0685 those 4 def deserved getting the deletion treatment. You quite simply cannot make something similar healthy. Yorick would never be okay as a character focused on summoning creatures in the manner he did, poppy barely had an identity other than pick on the weakling, idk what sion was and neither did anyone else, galio kept antimagic mage/tank but that's honestly all he had as an identity for gameplay, and the lore definitely needed scrapping
@sclom5676
@sclom5676 3 жыл бұрын
@@carnage0685 I'm not gonna bother replying to you properly since you seem incapable of having an actual discussion. You talk of removing people from the world to make it better and yet somehow doing it to characters is too far? What a joke of a person.
@brianmellema109
@brianmellema109 3 жыл бұрын
I really like the persona music in the background
@JustAguy006
@JustAguy006 3 жыл бұрын
Fiddle's rework is pretty cool. Nothing else I have to say, other than Riot did a good job. Something I'd don't usually say to Riot as of right now.
@EthanBoycottLOO
@EthanBoycottLOO 3 жыл бұрын
Nunu, Evelynn, and Fiddlesticks IMO.
@Jubasa99
@Jubasa99 3 жыл бұрын
Nunu and Fiddle are the bests. I can count with the fingers of my right hand only how many time i've seen a Nunu or a Fiddle before their reworks
@alexandretremblay120
@alexandretremblay120 3 жыл бұрын
Nunu is pretty good tho he has one best ganking tools in game
@VarsVerum
@VarsVerum 3 жыл бұрын
D-d-d-d-did you just say... EVELYNN?! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
@schnader
@schnader 3 жыл бұрын
@@goldenboy5693 The rework is indeed super cool, but it forces people to play the game in such a bad way it makes the champ so unreliable. It's just failed execution on top of failed execution, if she can't get an early lead she's a cannon minion for the rest of the game. She's also famous for always baiting your own team into their graves or doing absolutely nothing because "i CaN'T aSsaSSiNAtE SOmEonE"
@The_Vanni
@The_Vanni 3 жыл бұрын
EVELYNN OMEGALUL
@DeterminatiotheBlood
@DeterminatiotheBlood 3 жыл бұрын
Gankplank rework was a very good. Just changing 1 ability gave him some much skillset and power.
@wellwellwelp
@wellwellwelp 3 жыл бұрын
Galio was very well updated with his abilities, but his charater design was completely deleted, nothing of his old design remained. Everything about his new character design is the opposite of his old one, to the point where you gotta ask whether Riot reworked Galio or just deleted him and released a new champion that happened to be named the same thing. The excuse people use for this is "nobody played him so its ok", when the obvious reason why people didnt play him was his bad kit. Old Galio was: quite - ugly but elegant - dark and gothic themed - calm and referenced religious themes New Galio is: loud - "pretty" but clumsy - Bright and jock themed - brash and just figths because he likes it Old Galio had a unique aestethic, and it kinda is a gutpunch that riot deleted him and replaced him with his opposite. It would be cool however if they introduced a new champ with old Galios aestetic, with the lore of being the mages way of fighting Galio. They could have a whole Giant monsters face-off, or the new champ could be like old Galio in the sense that he flies around, and then he could save innocent people from Galios rampages.
@drewblackmatter6669
@drewblackmatter6669 3 жыл бұрын
Make it a Noxian Gargoyle that spits acid,fire and air and name him Golliath
@rpgebast6502
@rpgebast6502 3 жыл бұрын
i miss the old desing and passive
@jusayalex
@jusayalex 3 жыл бұрын
The noxus Goliath idea should be a thing!
@Ammuze11
@Ammuze11 3 жыл бұрын
The best reworks, in my opinion, are the ones that keep the core identity and kit of the character and then improve the parts that need it to be rounded. So, Fiddlesticks, Warwick, Heimerdinger, Pantheon and Master Yi are up there as some of the best reworks in the game. Then there's Sion and Aatrox which is basically them deleting a champion to create a new one.
@tengkuhafiz4174
@tengkuhafiz4174 3 жыл бұрын
The persona theme is fucking soothing I love it
@AcceptTheException
@AcceptTheException 3 жыл бұрын
My personal favorite "Rework" is actually Diana's switching R and E. For too long Diana played like a blitzy assassin type but didn't really have an IMPACTFUL ultimate. She was almost useless pre 6. Now that her dash is her E and her E is a beefed up ultimate ability, she feels more proactive in a game for me. I know it's not a FULL VGU but it's what counts for me.
@pszsmile3271
@pszsmile3271 3 жыл бұрын
Volibear had very little play rate before rework. Now reworked he has a lot of players I am happy for them who like him right now but I think the old Volibear was better (my personal opinion.)
@zebnemma
@zebnemma 3 жыл бұрын
Old Voli was for sure better if you ask me. I have him lvl 7 and I feel like he's weaker after the rework so I don't really play him anymore. It's a shame cuz he used to be my go to jungler beside sejuani. His old passive was great now he has to ult to get tanky and that's a downside. New Voli has to rely on landing E, if he does a bad E the fight is pretty much ruined cuz he has no other way to tank himself if ult is on cooldown at that time. IDK man it's just weak... And even his new passive is not that usefull compared to his old way of dealing damage which was to execute with Q. if someone stuns or blinds Voli he has no dmg suddenly rendering his passive useless and it's so easy to counter cuz most champs has some form of stun or CC making it harder. And lastly he also has less CC since they removed his fear. New Voli only works if you get super lucky and enemy team has barely any CC which pretty much never happens so yeah RIP Volibear... Oh yeah and he also runs slower now too than he used to. Less tanky, move slower, less CC, less DMG, worse passive... He is defenetly the winner for the worst rework ever!
@pszsmile3271
@pszsmile3271 3 жыл бұрын
@@zebnemma I played him top in s9 he was my most played toplaner. But ye I feel u
@wasifabdullah2997
@wasifabdullah2997 2 жыл бұрын
@@zebnemma ur just bad but its ok
@Codsbestsniper
@Codsbestsniper 3 жыл бұрын
1. Sion - Sion's update added iconic moves, much more fun gameplay, and gave him a proper role in the game that he still excels at. He now has a consistent (albeit small) fan base and is way better off than any of the other reworks. 2. Pantheon - kept everything good about his kit while making it less degenerate, what else is there to say? 3. Warwick - best upgrade in visuals and thematics. Their plan was to keep him simple but add new tools and it worked great. Sion is by far their best
@VarsVerum
@VarsVerum 3 жыл бұрын
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@miljan775
@miljan775 3 жыл бұрын
ScAAaRecrRrRoowsss ToOok tHem aaaAAALlLll, NOOoBody lEeft bBuUuT Mmeee
@Sinister_Illusion
@Sinister_Illusion 3 жыл бұрын
My favorites are without a doubt Evelynn and Katarina. Evelynn has so many more small things she can do position wise to execute her target, as well as she doesn't feel so mind numbing since they removed the whole infinite q spam. Katarina went from being an insanely unhealthy face roll to a genuinely difficult champion with a lot of skill expression and outplay potential, and her opponents have means of stopping her or just not allowing her to deal damage (aka STOP WALKING ON THE DAGGERS-or do i dont mind the free lp). Akali is another favorite but thats just I find her much more fun now lol.
@thomasalberto613
@thomasalberto613 3 жыл бұрын
I also like reworks much more than new champions, but because their kits are usually much healthier because the goal isn't to make them as popular as possible
@Mel_3344
@Mel_3344 3 жыл бұрын
Somehow i really forgot that poppy get a rework too before this video I only remembered that old candy poppy cursed smile lmao
@autistictyranitar414
@autistictyranitar414 3 жыл бұрын
I can't believe you didn't mention Fiddlesticks. He's been always one of my favourite champs, and when he and voli won the poll I was so nervous that they would fuck it up. But to my surprise, they transform it in all I always wanted. Instead of a squishy mage they made him an ap bruiser, making him a teamfight base champ rather than this random scarecrow that sometimes appears out of nowhere. Not gonna lie, every day I miss the E crow, but omg it feels good to be able to play jg with him again. Now I need the same for Shaco and Kog'Maw
@v1298
@v1298 3 жыл бұрын
Fiddlesticks is the rework I like the most. Fiddlesticks was nothing else than a meme before, something nobody actually played or even remembered. Post-rework? Amazing theme, art, gameplay etc. while still being very unique and keeping the core of what the champion was before. Also, he's, you know, viable. 10/10 rework.
@devforfun5618
@devforfun5618 3 жыл бұрын
i played consistently as support with fiddle, he was my ezreal counter, and thanks to ezreal being a popular pick i used to play him a lot, now i dont even see anyone playing fiddle and he is terrible in aram, visually the rework is great, but he is too passive now which i dont like but i get how that is how a scarecrow should be played
@v1298
@v1298 3 жыл бұрын
@@devforfun5618 "Terrible in aram" I mean champs aren't exactly designed with aram as a top priority
@artje90
@artje90 3 жыл бұрын
i mis old galio, the speed control effect for your whole team was really nice
@beiwubsnsod7378
@beiwubsnsod7378 3 жыл бұрын
Even though old galio was a ome trick pony with his ult, there was something about him that felt special. He was up there with poppy and urgot beimg super rare champs, and it felt like you were playing something that nobody was famililar with
@lightmaster3353
@lightmaster3353 3 жыл бұрын
Play sivir.
@devforfun5618
@devforfun5618 3 жыл бұрын
@@beiwubsnsod7378 i liked how his ultime only dealt a lot of damage when used on a lot of enemies, made him balanced for 1v1 but really strong in 5v5
@clorcestv
@clorcestv 3 жыл бұрын
Fiora is to this day my favourite rework. Started maining her since they did it and even though it's been a few years since I've stopped maining top she's still my go-to champion for toplane. Love that W and Vitals minigame
@tftrj4750
@tftrj4750 3 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: All of your picks are my mains RN even before their rework esp Pantheon really love 1v1 at top
@thomashowe1583
@thomashowe1583 3 жыл бұрын
The five you mentioned were/are great. However, these certainly deserve mention if you ever go back to this. Heimerdinger (S7): His problems were his slowness, ability to be out-ranged, and requiring champions to come to him (since his ultimate was only a mega-turret). With an instant inventory of 3 turrets, the range issue goes away. His new passive fixed his speed when he's around turrets, which is where he's supposed to be. And his new ultimate gave him some much-needed versatility in teamfights and skirmishes. Mordekaiser (S9): While able to be a 1v9 boss if fed, the increased popularity of Grievous Wounds and anti-tank items wore this slower, mega-healing champ down. He was also very point-and-click. With basic abilities now requiring better timing, but covering a wider area, he can now affect teamfights even when behind. Combining Poppy's old and Camille's ultimates, he can still shut down a fed player and swing the tide, but now it's more about improving himself than getting lucky on a fed Cait and using their ghost to one-shot the enemy team. Soraka (S4): Only older veterans would know about this one. Before, our banana thrower was just a health + mana battery with one minor point-and-click silence and the best MR-shredding ability in the game. She traded that for increased speed, less powerful but more consistent heals, and an upgrade to CC at the cost of no more mana sharing. Her Q can also do damage from a much safer distance. Kayle (S9): You covered this in your Why No One Plays video about her, but her new kit allows her to stay in the same role as before; as in, slow to start but an unstoppable force if hitting late game, only outclassed by infinity scalers.
@TheSonixas
@TheSonixas 3 жыл бұрын
I like your picks, as for me, my top 5 would be: Warwick, Gankgplank, Evelynn, Poppy and Swain. It just feels like those champions literally got a personality after their rework. For example, Gangplank feels like an actual pirate, compared to his previous iteration of him being a combination of a soldier toy and pinocchio. Also honorable mention: Yorick, even though the reworked Yorick was never that strong, I think his rework was probably the biggest one, just behind Warwick because of how disturbingly bad his previous kit was.
@loxul2239
@loxul2239 3 жыл бұрын
Wukong for me. These are my reasons. 1: He was abysmally bad before his rework. He was already a very niche pick before. A jack of all trades, master at none. He only saw a small amount of play in Season 8 when Assassin Items were OP. He was nerfed soon after and then all Assassin Items were nerfed but he got no recompensation buff. He stayed trash for 2 whole years. 2: His rework took 2 years for it to finally come out even though it didn't get any resources except for one or two Rioters. At this point, I was desperate for anything really. 3: His "rework" spawned the 200 years meme. Must I say more?
@ishowedyouthat2575
@ishowedyouthat2575 3 жыл бұрын
I wished they focused on reworks instead of their new champs.
@ayaanparkar5377
@ayaanparkar5377 3 жыл бұрын
My absolute favourite was the beast that was Mordekaiser. Pantheons is also insane, and Swain makes a new character that adds so much to both the game and the lore
@VarsVerum
@VarsVerum 3 жыл бұрын
Swain was definitely another really good one! I loved how they kept the battlemage part of him but made him less poke spammy :D
@RoessanAdeverVCua
@RoessanAdeverVCua 3 жыл бұрын
I love the reworked Nunu & Willump. The first time I saw their trailer puts a smile on my face. 😁
@SilentIsles
@SilentIsles 3 жыл бұрын
Another incredible video, one of the best league youtubers by far
@VarsVerum
@VarsVerum 3 жыл бұрын
You're too kind. I have a long way to go before getting to that point >.
@StayVCA98
@StayVCA98 3 жыл бұрын
Kayle & Morgana, Pantheon are to me one of the best VGUs out there, don't know about the Gameplay but thematically at least!! Fiddle, Taric and Warwick is also great too...
@MrGummyCraft
@MrGummyCraft 3 жыл бұрын
I hit mastery 6 on OldGot and was 1S away before they reworked him 😭 I miss my boigot
@MikeJ122o
@MikeJ122o 3 жыл бұрын
I miss him too
@JosephStalin-vo6gi
@JosephStalin-vo6gi 3 жыл бұрын
I started playing league after his rework, but I think his old ult was super fun to use xd
@pazortegaFGC
@pazortegaFGC 3 жыл бұрын
i think people are ignoring how strong taric is and how good his rework was
@torch1028
@torch1028 3 жыл бұрын
Taric straight up my favorite rework of all time but he gets rejected because people are too insecure with their masculinity to play him Which is exactly what makes taric so chadalpha
@VarsVerum
@VarsVerum 3 жыл бұрын
Mostly because now he's been relegated to Master Yi's gold funnel slave >.> That and his abilities are more team game oriented (ranked 5's/clash/pro play instead of solo queue)
@torch1028
@torch1028 3 жыл бұрын
@@VarsVerum taric is straight up one of the best 1v1 duelists in the game (vs ad) Taric mains take him not only support, but also both top and jungle.. and thats soloquo without yis or kayles
@lucianofrancesco4742
@lucianofrancesco4742 3 жыл бұрын
@@torch1028 I have a friend which is a top main and his best champ by far is Taric. Holy shit, he never loses lane when he's playing Taric, he's surprisingly strong.
@torch1028
@torch1028 3 жыл бұрын
@@lucianofrancesco4742 I can actually confirm that taric has like 5 amazing rune choices, and his max hp scaling+ap scaling+armor scaling and auto attack centric kit lets him build basically any item he could ever need without it being inefficient. Example: His Q scales with HP and with AP (As well as heal power) so he can go offence focused with a titanic or zhonyas if he's feeling spicey. Many tarics are running manamune or essence reaver in top lane, they can also run a rather strong AP+Bruiser build, or some crazy wit's end+frostfire build. Thornmail is a damage item for taric, and if you're willing to take the risk.. double armor runes+conditioning+tabi is all the armor he really needs thanks to his W letting a taric freely build whatever tf he wants It's outrageous
@eduardobetancourt6677
@eduardobetancourt6677 3 жыл бұрын
I think Evelynn’s was pretty good. Gating the invisibility until level 6 and then balancing around that was a very good way to make her a healthier choice
@rookeyji5177
@rookeyji5177 3 жыл бұрын
Perma invis is not healthy AT ALL
@aureum5484
@aureum5484 3 жыл бұрын
The persona 5 music in the background made me feel fuzzy
@NguyenTran-hb5oe
@NguyenTran-hb5oe 3 жыл бұрын
Pantheon was my first main, back when I was 13 years old. His rework was like the second coming of Christ. Much hype.
@johnwelter7081
@johnwelter7081 3 жыл бұрын
I like the Poppy and WW reworks because they had no combos with old kits they just had auto resets. Now they have synergy within their kit. Poppy has my favorite combo, knock up ult into captain america shield throw auto. Also, no one remembers old Karma and that makes me sad. She was an old pocket pick of mine because nobody knew what she did...
@torch1028
@torch1028 3 жыл бұрын
OLD SHEN WAS BETTER And The fact that Taric isn't even in the top 5 when his rework brought him from a meme to a staple in enchanter/tank support metas .... like c'mon man
@drewblackmatter6669
@drewblackmatter6669 3 жыл бұрын
i guess even now people dont care about Gem Daddy :(.such a shame cause i find him really enjoyable especially in jg
@schnader
@schnader 3 жыл бұрын
A staple in the enchanter/tank support metas? The champ has never seen a single day of viability since his rework besides being used as a boosting/funnel champ. By far top 3 worst reworks they've done if you ask me.
@sandortojzan5409
@sandortojzan5409 3 жыл бұрын
Vars made it pretty clear in this video that the balance states of champions should be completely irrelevant when accessing the reworks of champions (hence why Pantheon was allowed into the top 5). So just because Taric was never a decent pick in the meta (outside of the funnel cheese), it doesn't mean that Riot failed with making him an interesting champion that has a place in the game with a kit that feels just right, while also having some counterplay. And let's be honest here, they didn't fail with that at all.
@schnader
@schnader 3 жыл бұрын
@@sandortojzan5409 agree to disagree. Taric's entire kit just screams boring. Just because it looks good doesn't mean it is. Taric is such a situational pick as a support who's outclassed by basically any other support in this game. His Q is simply unreliable and it only works on his W. His W just doesn't do anything useful besides giving his ally some armor. His E is fantastic and his ult is just bad, I get why his kit is the way it is cos it makes sense with his character but in practice the rework is just unplayable. He's just a worse Rell, and she's already a very situational champ.
@NeocrimsonX
@NeocrimsonX 3 жыл бұрын
Did say it was his opinion so I mean
@aaronjiang1116
@aaronjiang1116 3 жыл бұрын
Love the persona music!
@GuyHeadset
@GuyHeadset 3 жыл бұрын
The Pantheon rework was so needed it wasn't even funny. Playing against him early game felt like hell, playing against him mid-late was just annoying. Playing as him early game felt like you were god, mid-late you were a toothpick. A lot of my Pantheon games I would do good in the early game but my opponent would just catch up because I can't really stop them anymore. The worst offender is one of my best panth games. I went 21/1 during laning phase, helping out all three lanes, I was ahead by I believe 2 items, we hit mid-game and suddenly everyone is popping me like a bubble, we still won but going from 21/1 to 22/9 was fucking aggravating, I could maybe kill 1 person but usually contribute to half or less of a kill before I was focused and shot down.
@tcgjanitor9111
@tcgjanitor9111 3 жыл бұрын
Fiddle rework was amazing. I really hope we eventually get Cho'gath and Shyvana reworks.
@ninjaman0003
@ninjaman0003 3 жыл бұрын
i love the mordekaiser rework. i love his ult because it actually has two uses if you're smart about it. if you are hard carrying, you can take out a tank to let your team ravage the back line or you can hit a key carry that you know you can solo. the other use is if you are being absolutely useless, you can build items like zhonyas to increase your survival time and stall out the team carrying carry and let your team kill the rest of the team and then pile on the hard carry.
@hyperN1337
@hyperN1337 3 жыл бұрын
Old Shen was basically Maokai in disguise, a 'tank' that ran around just mashing Q at whoever he hated the most, healing a bunch, and periodically 'peeling' using the one ability in their kit that was actually good at it, existing in this weird state of 'like a bruiser' but not having good damage and being extremely chunky for some reason.
@habibelmadani9020
@habibelmadani9020 3 жыл бұрын
Very good video and good choices, a video about bad reworks would be a good idea
@SaadKhan-pe3yu
@SaadKhan-pe3yu 3 жыл бұрын
My favorite reworks were those for Fiddlesticks, Swain, and Evelynn. Their designs and kits are so much better than what they were before.
@VarsVerum
@VarsVerum 3 жыл бұрын
Did you just say Evelynn?! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
@toofu5044
@toofu5044 3 жыл бұрын
@@VarsVerum what's wrong with her rework?
@race8470
@race8470 3 жыл бұрын
Also, Swain rework is literally my favourite champion and my main
@manolgeorgiev9664
@manolgeorgiev9664 3 жыл бұрын
Swain went from a crippled old man who loves birds to a demon lord Stalin with that rework
@victortamez7316
@victortamez7316 3 жыл бұрын
Bro the fiora rework made me actually want to play her and the depth and skill expression with the champ definitely shows the amount of time spent playing the champion
@BIueChangeling
@BIueChangeling 3 жыл бұрын
Totaly agree with you on this list. But I would also include Volibear, mostly cause of the feeling I have when playing him. I really feel like an animal god of war who comes down to destroy everyone in his path. Also his I think he has the best quotes in the game.
@b.b.927
@b.b.927 3 жыл бұрын
Back when the Warwick rework was announced I had a bet with my friends to see if I could get M7 on him before the rework. After much research, theory-crafting, Redemption purchases, AFK farming to game the system, and 40 excruciating games later, I had a new ultimate skin for winning the bet.
@sirscribble3182
@sirscribble3182 3 жыл бұрын
I know it wasn’t technically a full rework but the AP Twitch buff/mini-rework was a genius idea. It gave him a new role as an APC while keeping his core gameplay basically the same. That being said I still prefer AD twitch but that’s just because I’m a boomer Twitch main.
@gogolplexoidus8928
@gogolplexoidus8928 2 жыл бұрын
i think that when old galio was still in the game corki was an ad adc at 6:50 he said that he was an ap adc. Correct me if i'm wrong
@torakazu2269
@torakazu2269 3 жыл бұрын
Now what are the top 5 worst reworks?
@nikospapadopoulos329
@nikospapadopoulos329 3 жыл бұрын
Easy Ryze Every single one
@VarsVerum
@VarsVerum 3 жыл бұрын
Can't really make that because there aren't enough bad reworks XD And no, Aatrox is actually not a bad rework.
@aatroxtheworldender933
@aatroxtheworldender933 3 жыл бұрын
@@VarsVerum Aatroy rework was a failure, not because they deleted his old gameplay style, but because they deleted his immortality and reason is the too strong rework. They shoudve change something about his kit and save immortaility that he had from the release.
@years-ti7xl
@years-ti7xl 3 жыл бұрын
Aatrox and Ryze for good reasons First Ryze is the most reworked champion of all time since his kit was so broken since Alpha, 2015 was his most powerful state, and his 2016 rework was more broken than expected. In short Ryze gets reworked every season except season 10 for some reason (not sure about season 11 though) and then Aatrox which literally got reworked when he finally became viable in 2018. Riot totally played with the hearts of the old Aatrox mains. They turned him into a Riven instead of Tryndamere. I do like the rework but the fact we only got to see his pre-rework version in competitive for only for a month, it pissed off an entire community.
@spanishinquisition7017
@spanishinquisition7017 3 жыл бұрын
Gotta say love the persona 5 music at the start.
@hashteraksgage3281
@hashteraksgage3281 3 жыл бұрын
I loved riven rework, the red colour plus the horns and wings are the best
@kornelacs8346
@kornelacs8346 3 жыл бұрын
If you gonna do more videos like this it would be fun see all the old abilities not just the text and the Urgot re-rework is my favorite one in a design aspect
@knightofwhale2834
@knightofwhale2834 3 жыл бұрын
Gangplank urgot and sion all desperately needed reworks and riot did an amazing job on all of them. Before their reworks their kits just felt incomplete.
@cliff9092
@cliff9092 3 жыл бұрын
Volibear rework is still pretty good. Though I miss his healing passive. But he still strong asf
@gabrieldossantos1116
@gabrieldossantos1116 3 жыл бұрын
I gotta say Urgot is the best rework at least in terms of kit. His old kit was so random and he didn't synergy with his own abilities, it felt so weird that you could switch place with an enemy but them you wouldn't have any way to survive or to scape if you used it to kill the enemy's backline. Also in therms of lore I really like how he deepens the lore of Noxus and Swain's coup and he also mocks avery single noxian in his taunt lmao
@eternal7912
@eternal7912 2 жыл бұрын
I definitely agree, though maybe I'm biased. Around when Warwick's rework came out and we learned Urgot would be one of the next reworks, I started looking into him (because I realized I had never even seen an Urgot in game before), and became fascinated by him. His kit, though a weird combination of abilities, was quite fun. His visuals had potential despite being extremely lacking, and his lore was actually rather interesting imo. Post rework, his kit kept various aspects (lock on, flip, a bit of DOT) but was designed to actually work well together, and is just super satisfying to use. His visuals, while not what I had initially hoped for, were just spectacular, as was his lore. Thankfully, after months of theorizing about his kit and lore and fantasizing about how cool they could make him, I was actually quite good at playing his rework. That day I went from being a Jinx main, to an Urgot main (though my psycho girl will always have a special place in my heart).
@devforfun5618
@devforfun5618 3 жыл бұрын
nobody mentioned taric, i started using him right before the rework, and felt the rework kept his identity, he still has one of the best stuns in Q and his R still makes for a powerfull morale boost, he only lost the armor shred, but now deals enough damage with the passive that ignoring him in a team fight is a bad idea
@glennmccrae7821
@glennmccrae7821 Жыл бұрын
The issue with poppy is her w and ulti, the massive pro play power it had means that any damage buffs or mobility/engage buffs would turbo break her, while in solo queue hardly anyone respects teamfighting/ending games so she feels really weak.
@zandromex8985
@zandromex8985 3 жыл бұрын
Now, I have only been playing since season 9 and so I haven´t experienced many reworks but I really love to learn about the story of league so I´ll give my perspective on this. In no particular order (except the last one), this is my take on the five best reworks: 1. Swain: despite being a rework that changed the old champion basically as much as Aatrox´s, I barely see people talk or complain about this one. From what I see, old Swain was a champion that was powerful as a drain tank but didin´t feel very rewarding. So they took it and gave us one of the best designed control mages in the game. His kit is so fluid, his passive is so unique and his ult pretty much does the same thing while actually feeling as an ultimate. 2. Warwick. It´s pretty much general consensus that old warwick had a terrible kit and that his rework fixed his issues and gave him a decent kit. Watching the gameplay I can´t help but to agree. 3. Yorick. From what had to be one of the worst designed kits in the game, with the worst like to dislike ratio a champion spotlight has had, second only to Seraphine (for good reason), his rework removed his toxic lane-bully gameplay and gave him a good identity as a splitpusher duelist that didn´t rely on gimmmicky items or his team too much 4. Sion. Sion is in my opinion one of the fairest champions to fight in league. His kit has just the right amount of counterplay so you don´t feel like you are being cheated and at the same time he can outplay if he pulls it off. Also, his old kit was a complete mess. And lastly, my favourite rework: 5. Fiddlesticks. Fiddlesticks earns my personal number one spot because it proved that you can change a champion just enough so that he is modernized but also keeps the same identity intact. Also, it gave us the best visual rework imo. It is worth noting also that fiddle is the only champion I played before his rework.
@lurkygoat
@lurkygoat 3 жыл бұрын
I was an Eve main before her rework and even though I was a little skeptical at first with her new kit, now I like her even more
@findlayrutherford
@findlayrutherford 3 жыл бұрын
Nunu, Yorick, Taric and Fiddlesticks are some of my favorite champions to play rn and I don't think that'd be the case if not for their reworks (especially Nunu, his W is the best) Revert Aurelion Sol
@jorgep8032
@jorgep8032 3 жыл бұрын
I think that for me, I agree with Warwick, poppy and shen, but pantheon and galio it’s more complicated, mostly because they did remove part of the reworked abilities (galio flash w and pant blocking torrets) I think riot does rework tanks in a really nice way but one of my favorite “mini reworks” was zyra, changing the passive made her feel a lot more interesting than before, after all the previous one was really out of place for her design
@cursedwyvern3044
@cursedwyvern3044 3 жыл бұрын
I think Poppy, Yorick, Fiddle and Warwick really nailed the power fantasy that those characters have, which is why I think they were all really good. Whether or not they're good in the meta, they have unique playstyles that really appeal to a lot of people.
@Evaldo_Souza
@Evaldo_Souza 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing video! Now I want to see a list of the worst reworks 😂
@brooksrobinson7427
@brooksrobinson7427 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly the new Mundo rework kinda bangs, keeps his gameplay identity but adds more skill expression and a smoother feel. He's a bit broken right now but as you said, numbers can be adjusted.
@arefazadeh8243
@arefazadeh8243 3 жыл бұрын
This was a good one. Maybe you make a the worst reworks video too?
@osyrisking5437
@osyrisking5437 2 жыл бұрын
"Ap items arent really made for bruisers." Mordekaiser breathing intensifies.
@Arob4343
@Arob4343 3 жыл бұрын
Wish I could’ve tried old Galio. He got reworked right after I started, so I saw him in games but didn’t know to try him before a rework. I did get to play old Warwick some and hated how dinky he was. That rework was exxxxxxxtreme
@Victorvonbass
@Victorvonbass 3 жыл бұрын
Poppy #1! Her rework is definitely why I play league.
@arismeijer2453
@arismeijer2453 3 жыл бұрын
i like how they made champions like warwick more unique. he went from just a werewolve to a man who was turned into a monster by chemtech. to me it makes the characters more interesting (:
@devforfun5618
@devforfun5618 3 жыл бұрын
specially because he is a good guy despite the appearence
@Adam-wy7mj
@Adam-wy7mj 3 жыл бұрын
Fiddlesticks was the beat for me went from a goofy then turned into an absoulte unit
@SanguineThor
@SanguineThor 3 жыл бұрын
That comfy Persona5 music :3
@marcellomadrazo8121
@marcellomadrazo8121 3 жыл бұрын
Love the background music :D
@VarsVerum
@VarsVerum 3 жыл бұрын
I hope so! Any sentiment otherwise is a crime punishable by death! >:(
@kahalaskater
@kahalaskater 3 жыл бұрын
Love the video but also miss your Maple videos
@VarsVerum
@VarsVerum 3 жыл бұрын
I had to move on eventually xD I was doing maple for like 7 years!
@kahalaskater
@kahalaskater 3 жыл бұрын
@@VarsVerum heheh I respect that completely we all must xD
@Milenos
@Milenos 3 жыл бұрын
I think you could also do a video on more rework too and how it affected the champion play rate and style.
@lifeiaskedfor
@lifeiaskedfor 3 жыл бұрын
graves, sion, and fiddlestick i would argue should've been on this list. Sion went from what was basically a joke of a champion to being pretty much unique pick that shows that champions can have a low floor and a high ceiling while still having a simple kit. Graves brought something unique to the jungle and gave him a much better place then he did as an adc, he wasn't that great as one and when he was used he was just a lane bully and quite honestly there's just better ADCs who do that better, so the fact that his rework gave him a new home i think honestly deserves a spot. Finally, fiddlestick was a champ that just had no identity, he was just a weird gimmicky champ you would dive into the enemy team and didn't really do much outside of that, with his rework they gave him alot of good ways to clear the jungle along with ganking, he basically was made to be unique and filled a niche. Where these would go and what champs they would take the place of i don't really know, honestly think you should've done more of like a top 10 rather then a top 5
@whoknows7415
@whoknows7415 3 жыл бұрын
I'd say Fiddle rework is better than the Shen rework. Shen just added a few missing things from his kit while Fiddle's rework turned him from a scarecrow that tosses birds at you to an actually scary demon that can really catch you off guard, which is one of the main ways you scare someone. His ult now actually gives a fear if you were hidden so it actually promotes tactical use of his ultimate and adds to the scare factor of it, his e is now something that actually takes some skill to hit while maintaining the same effect, his w is now AoE which really helps him fit into the jungle because he gains that multi-camp clear whereas before he was mostly played in a role that he wasn't designed for, support. His q is still the same but at least you can fear on all of your abilities which is definitely a nice change. His passive is also definitely better because before you just got a slight movement speed buff after being still for a few seconds which was ok for your ultimate but you were pressing zhonyas with your ultimate most of the time which prevents you from moving. His new passive obviously isn't as impressive as something like Samira's or Viego's passive but you can make plays with it sometimes, especially because the clone can flash.
@tesgansystem6358
@tesgansystem6358 3 жыл бұрын
I like Akali a lot. I feel her rework made her more of an assassin than her older self, with thar insane lifesteal. Now you dependen more on how you positionate and how you manage the energy in early game.
@Archinemi
@Archinemi 3 жыл бұрын
Talkin about my man Galio ❤️ love to set it. I still do miss old Galio, but I don't think he would be playable in this day and age. Excited to see how he feels for S12
@javierrivera5834
@javierrivera5834 3 жыл бұрын
For me both modekeiser and taric rework are better than pantheon and shen, as they both brought life to those champions and actually made them viable
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