Aatrox's Rework - Which One Was Better? | League of Legends

[@HappyChimeNoises]

Petition to add old aatrox again and call him bbtrox

[@ooo8228]

Why the heck are you here

[@danieljensen8307]

Rename the new one bbtrox as it fits or maybe boris and the add the old one

[@gabrieljoseozanan6989]

They should call the current one 'QQtrox'!

[@danieljensen8307]

@@gabrieljoseozanan6989 lmao true

[@zeen1287]

Make new bard and name him fard

[@pharoahman475]

"It's just only him and Raast right now." Varus is just gonna cry in a corner

[@Heightren]

Varus is just a third darkin

[@Mt12490]

@@Heightren na na na it's 3 kids in a darken costume.

[@tuxedoterrorwrist]

Its cause Varus only has 1 a in his name. Fuckin moron, there was a memo Varus, THERE WAS A MEMO!

[@AltiusMax]

@@Mt12490 Varus is third wheeling

[@VarsVerum]

*THERE WAS A MEMO VARUS. A MEMOOOO!*

[@cohoslash5893]

No matter how hard aatrox tried to revive himself nobody can escape riot

[@ahmadbugshan9603]

wth 19h ago how this video premiered 1h ago

[@danielbatista8760]

@@ahmadbugshan9603 Time machine *Exist*

[@phoenixflamegames1]

@@ahmadbugshan9603 Membership privileges Im assuming

[@cohoslash5893]

@@ahmadbugshan9603 its called being good at video games

[@mostafaelzohirey9187]

@@ahmadbugshan9603 go at Saturday/Monday/Wednesday nights and you will see that the thumbnail for the video is there for the premier so you can set a reminder also you can comment

[@jonahallcorn]

"The only champions capable of inflicting massive amounts of AOE damage through auto attacks alone are ad carries with runaan's hurricane." *LAUGHS IN LATE GAME KAYLE*

[@WatchSchoolDays]

Funny how old Kayle could 1 shot all non tanks and out dps the rest... miss old AP Kayle 😔

[@herbs4135]

After level 16 Azir also fits the bill… shame you’ve already lost the game by then if you’re not careful

[@yurinabesima]

Because she is essentially a marksmen post level 6

[@lorddingus42]

You!

[@mxrekt8041]

kayle doesnt have just auto attacks she has 2 passives that both play into giving her autos aoe damage, the e aoe and the aa aoe from her r, its not pure auto attacks its also abilities playing into the aoe, aatrox and by extension every other champ that doesnt have runaans can only aa 1 person

[@VarsVerum]

By the way, if you guys like this retrospective I might do more in the future on other reworks! :D (leave lots of feedback please!)

[@kurosendo912]

Can you make retrospective about mordekaiser's rework

[@leonelgosciniak632]

My first thought seeing this premiere was "I hope he's gonna make a series out of this" 😅

[@armandklink4843]

Mordekaiser's rework should be another restrospective, as he was wasted as hell

[@leonelgosciniak632]

@@armandklink4843 Not wasted but, just like Aatrox, did the old Champion got kind of deleted and replaced with the reworked one.

[@NeptuniumNecromancy]

@@armandklink4843 so new Morde isn’t cool?

[@D3V1LBr34TH]

Can't wait. I used to hate the rework but it's great actually. However, this will never justify how Oldtrox got deleted.

[@PedroAce]

Hard agree, new "Aatrox" isn't bad, He just isn't the same champ. They could've been two entirely different champs and both been in the game.

[@titanosaurdy9493]

The reason why i hate the new Aatrox because he doesn't have his iconic revive anymore

[@anotherguy7539]

Despite being the darkin blade, I don't feel I'm using a sword while playing the reworked Aatrox, you could change it for a hammer and it would feel like a hammer

[@ultimatesonic47]

well in this case its not a sword but a greatsword

[@ic8537]

@@ultimatesonic47 great swords still aren't as slow, people only think of them as slow because of how they are shown in media

[@ultimatesonic47]

@@ic8537 greatswords in reality arent that wide, so this has to be way heavier

[@gkarak1996]

They should give him the smash bros Hammer. Maybe he would be less clunky that way.

[@Limrick1029]

His passive is a stab...

[@TwitterVS]

I'm one of the few people who had an issue with Urgot changing so much. I mained the old version. The new version is fun and better for the game but I still miss the only playstyle

[@VarsVerum]

The old version was where you landed W then your Q would auto target right? That sounds kinda OP ngl

[@tudorchristiandamian3672]

@@VarsVerum it was good but dealt a very small amount of dmg

[@bobthebuilder6521]

@@VarsVerum he also passively reduced enemy damage, armor resistance, and gave himself 30-50% damage reduction when he ultied. he was funny to catch people off guard with.

[@croatiancowboy]

i remember old urgot being one of the wackiest but secretly op motherfuckers in the game. wish i remember what he did other than the Q spam lmao

[@johnnysoletti721]

@@croatiancowboy if I remember it correctly, the Q was that projectile, the W was a shield, the E was another projectile that made the Q always hit the target for a brief period, and the R switched places. I really believe it was a solid champion, the only problem is that he was build like a adc since the E had a lot of range and allowed him to inflict a lot of damage with his Q from a huge distance, so of course he was build as an adc, wich made his ult useless out of the lane phase.

[@HopeiThis]

The Touhou jazz arrangement music in the background caught me by surprise. Stellar taste!

[@xshinga76]

Finally, this guy is getting attention. Poor Aatrox still can't die since Riot has more plans

[@PedroAce]

more plans?

[@alexandermaxx]

more plans?

[@auliahakim8561]

Next update : we rework aatrox a little bit, he now wont have a sword and his role will be a support

[@PedroAce]

@@auliahakim8561 LMAO top tier comment.

[@dioxide39]

@@auliahakim8561 imagine instead of adding a 4th darkin as a support they decide to make an existing darkin a support instead, I'd be punching the air

[@SirLANsalot]

The main trick to playing old Aatrox, was knowing WHEN to swap between Blood Price and Blood Pierce. As Pierce's HP lifesteal/heal was doubled when under 1/2 HP, so knowing when the make the change. Also he was a Jungler, at least I ran him as one and he was amazing, as he was one of the VERY few that after getting a little bit of attackspeed on his first back, he could walk to dragon and solo it, very few could solo dragon early in the game (Vi could back then too).

[@i3e4sty99]

remember D-Blade jungle start? good ol times

[@Aceleo209]

Keeping his revive whilst removing other factors like dmg or sustain could've helped. I dunno but both old and new revives were the signature gag of that champion. (anivia revive is different we all know that)

[@sierraamaya]

then nobody picks him, there are tanks than can acomplish the same with less effort.

[@skelet8337]

Old GA was called by the player by the name of the aatrox revive it was so signature

[@dontforget5737]

Back then you'd just revive and then die 2 seconds later.

[@mostafaelzohirey9187]

anivia's revive serves the pheonix reborn concept aatrox was actually an unkillable demon that made tryndamere too angry to die now aatrox is just THE ENEMY

[@mostafaelzohirey9187]

anivia's revive serves the pheonix reborn concept aatrox was actually an unkillable demon that made tryndamere too angry to die now aatrox is just THE ENEMY

[@PedroAce]

Idk I still believe that the new "Aatrox" should be a different champion. he fits a darkin pretty fine and play very differently from old Aatrox. After the "mini rework" of old Aatrox I believe he was in a pretty decent state, he could jungle top and mid fine and was viable across all levels of play. The rework wasn't awful until they gutted the rework to be worse than he was just pre-rework.

[@RB-xc9wg]

totally agree, in addtition, lore wise, there should be at least 10 or more darkin lurking around somewhere as they are the fallen ascended of shurima and there were tons of those. so a release of a cool, spell based darkin wouldve been good at that time.

[@sierraamaya]

he was overtune, the only reason because people was salty was because they didnt nerf him before the rework

[@Gorecatto]

@@sierraamaya now that akshan can revive more than 2 people with one kill i want to see their excuse to not give aatrox his revive when ulted after killing at least one enemy

[@zachriggs5297]

@@Gorecatto because an in fight revive is much stronger than an out of fight one

[@aatroxtheworldender933]

@@RB-xc9wg i think that all those darkins are dead, its just last 5 darkins that were too powerfull to be killed so they got trapped in their weapons. Others are killed by celestial aspects, and probably by killed Pantheon.

[@Yusufoh8]

I would like a Mordekaiser retrospective. His history is cool.

[@ReigoVassal]

To this day i still miss my Lord and savior, 6v4 Mordekaiser. Rito really disappoint me when they broke their promise on "keeping one ability." They kill his identity as the champion that have the best Pet in the whole game. Make your enemy to your pet is the best thing. Now he just an AP Darius but worse Q but with arguably better Camille's Ult.

[@lizardjoel]

I hate what they did to him loved every version besides this most recent braindead ghostless version it sucks his ult was the whole point and the new one is so ininspired boring as ass compared to using their own adc to get a penta. Viego is more boring old morde.

[@thec-yb6ug]

He now is just a strange mixture between sion riven darius tryndamere camille and swain before he actually was a warlord who killed gods cause he was bored of being dead

[@justsomeguywithamoustachea2712]

Man really miss the juggernaut update mord was my favorite champion in the game the new one is boring nothing unique about him zero identity whatsoever

[@muhammadfazlurrahman4929]

Old Aatrox : get attention in pro scene, after all this year Riot : What, how could you be on a pro scene without getting rework first, this is out of scedule, this is not our plan Riot weeks later, after making Aatrox more unplayable than he was before : so, anyways we rework him, and also if we see his wr going up by 0.001% we are going to nerf him in the next 3 patch, no need to thanks, we only do our job

[@TheLastAatroxMain]

So true. Dog shit rework unplayable

[@dqvoltheweak6689]

Hold my 60% ignite pls

[@LordSeth-hf8ew]

The nerfs are what really fucked it

[@drewgoff652]

Cries in Udyr

[@justanuff]

yes yes our jobs we doo do, also we gonna release champions until power creep makes the game unplayable, no need to thanks us for your decision to quit league, it was all made possible to make sure dat SWEET MONEY never runs out. Cos dair aint no Ryot gaymes widout deh *MONEH*

[@flytelp]

“With his ultimate, Aatrox can do 2000 damage with a full q rotation” Shaco: Q Backstab E

[@valentin4761]

Laughs in ap nunu R

[@pawepajak7142]

@@valentin4761 laughs in nasus q

[@valentin4761]

@@pawepajak7142 after like 30+ mins of farming tho, not rly consistent

[@dqvoltheweak6689]

You mean 200, right? Right?

[@The-Akkaro]

shaco late game legit gets poped like a balloon before he can pop anyone

[@tryhrd2002]

As an aatrox main, I really wish I could've played the old version of him but I never got the chance as I joined the patch he was reworked.

[@AvvilGarrant]

I can understand the sentiment, but I also feel like not having had the chance to play him is a win-win situation. If you would have liked his playstyle, you would miss him like others (such as myself) who do. If you didn't, it could negatively influence his appeal as what he's become.

[@deletthis5040]

You didn't miss too much. The old Aatrox was just another brain dead right clicker. He was a way better designed character after becoming a spell caster

[@Solurrrr]

@@deletthis5040 red riven

[@apolux359]

@@deletthis5040 red riven

[@LifestriderX]

it felt like bloodthirster tryndamere

[@Javixk17]

Im so interested in this, as an aatrox enjoyer from old, this peaks my interest

[@True_Damage69]

Vars is the most informative and entertaining league youtuber. Change my mind

[@True_Damage69]

@Ata Karayou're damn right

[@CloudWalkBeta]

i already want to say I like the premise of the idea, especially if you end up covering Gangplank... GP was a champion i played support that was broken in a way nobody else ever thought imaginable, with frozen gauntlet and zekes herald, i was making the cc heavy meta supports at the time (thresh, morganna and anni) look USELESS, i face tanked their damage and CC, i out healed and out damaged them, ALL the while giving my ADC (draven) +40 AD & +10% life steal, had the rework and zekes getting deleted not happened, I legit would have made support GP META. I was also building shurelyas for bonus movement, using ult to slow entire enemy teams down, out running supports like thresh running mobi's, that was such a funny time. my duo partner at the time still says he misses my support gangplank the best support he EVER had. & we ran many duo strats bot lane that still work to this day, GP + Yuumi with our own twist (we just make Garen too tanky to burst and buy everfrost on Yuumi so enemies cant chase or escape), we ran twitch lulu, we ran Yi & Taric botlane. Zilean and Trynd, but still he wishes for old GP with Zekes Herald over any of that.

[@ZONgerXD]

I went the full crit route. Good times

[@TheLastAatroxMain]

I miss “Yoo Hoo Hoo and a Bottle of…RUM!

[@CloudWalkBeta]

@@TheLastAatroxMain that too, i miss the old GP's jolly voice!

[@superdimento7752]

This one is exciting for me because I never played oldtrox. I started playing League at the end of season 10 when i decided to main aatrox, and seeing everyone beg for oldtrox was... Kind of annoying and weird. I thought he played fairly well! But then I found out about how they removed newtrox's revive mechanic from his ult... And I wonder... What... DID they change...? Soon, I will learn everything...

[@user-vc1gd4jg1f]

Coincidentally they changed absolutely everything, including the voice actor

[@superdimento7752]

@@user-vc1gd4jg1f i really like aatrox's current va. What do you think?

[@dubious5859]

@@superdimento7752 New aatrox should of been a new champion. Imagine if they just deleted lux kit and made her into a marksman. Some people would of liked the new lux, but mage lux didn't need to be deleted for marksman lux to be born under a different name. How would old lux main feel? Completely different role and game play.

[@KiyeHid]

His rework feels like a remake. Look at Eve, Her playstyle might be different but at least they still conserve her Q spam. Nunu is now a Tokyo Drifter but still has old ult and q but aatrox however... they changed him.. It's like they deletes a champ and then made another champ

[@HamsterPants522]

@@N12015 It's not fair to say that Aatrox is a generic violent demon. If you read into his backstory, you'll find that he's actually more self-aware than almost any champion in Runeterra. His only wish is to die because he has no meaning left in his life, but he can't kill himself because he's immortal. As a result, he wants to destroy the entire universe in the hopes that such an impossible feat could allow him to fade away into oblivion. That's the sole reason he comes off as antagonistic, because it's in his self-interest.

[@ArktasHD]

It’s kinda sad how they couldn’t keep the original champion design

[@Antonfinger1]

They could Leblanc Rengar kog maw kha got reverted but our community accepted defeat long ago If we all protested against that they would revert him too Look at tryndamere same design nearly sustain fighting splitpusher One relied on life steal the other on crit Still trynd stayed same Nasus Renekton Darius Juggernaut sustain stuff Classic dueliist died long ago Jax and trynda are the last old duellists left Watch exils last aatrox analysis

[@ArktasHD]

I know I already watched it but it’s still kinda sad :(

[@raaventhered8548]

@@Antonfinger1 There are also the likes of Irelia, Yone, Jax, kayle, Yi, even Viego and as long as Riot calls them healthy and fun then the old Aatrox deserved to stay as well. The problem here was the designer of the Rework: Riot Jag himself. He ignored our dedication and love for the old Aatrox and just turned him into a modyfied Riven and then ran off like a coward, leaving all of us behind because he couldn't stand the criticism. Nowadays if anyone tells their honest oppinions about his work and if he finds it "disrespectful" he just blocks all of them. Thats why people started to call him Snowflake sometimes.

[@dqvoltheweak6689]

They could but "he wasn't played much and that's bad" was the reason for rework. Also they based him on Rhaast (since kayn was popular, and a darkin that they recently created) more than the old Aatrox.

[@Antonfinger1]

@@dqvoltheweak6689 he was after he received like 5 buffs in a row Even the lcs /lck dudes came to old aatrox power and loved him His rageblade playstyle was love

[@brendan8114]

"considering it's only aatrox and rhaast right now" Varus having his devil's-three-way in the corner: wut :'(

[@brian_cao]

I SEE YOU WITH THE TOUHOU PCB OST I RESPECT THAT

[@pizzaguy4669]

“It’s only him and rhaast right now” Varus: Am I a joke to you?

[@Tentimez5]

Yeah kinda lol

[@valentin4761]

He is lmao

[@xene6304]

Hey Vars, the first player you covered, GoB GG, he is one of my good friends and we are french :D

[@starofastaroth8022]

To quote magicarpusefly "they named him aatrox not atrox so he always showed up at the top of the champion list so everytime u look at it u're oh yeah be exist"

[@azurclerx951]

I love how you are putting a bit more humour and personality in your videos. I don’t say you had none before but you feel more human now, it’s very cool, luv

[@autistictyranitar414]

I started playing him when they made those changes to make him more viable until rework. Little did I know I was gonna have so much fun playing him. When they reworked him, I wasn't really amused with how much they chaged his identity, but I still played with him, just not as much. When they removed his revive it was the last straw, there was no point in playing a champ that didn't remind me at all the one I started playing with. I feel like people who only play the new one won't understand this. He only has the "I heal a lot" build now, while before he could go multiple builds depending on how you wanted to play that game. He really felt like a blade master then

[@ROSPoetry1]

yes i feel the exact same, i loved his champ and his lore before rework. But the revive being taken away even AFTER the rework was the last straw for me.

[@Spooky_Spookerson]

I too feel the pain of losing a main to a rework. For me it was Swain, they completely erased his old identity and his gameplay changed drastically. Yes he fulfills the same role and yes he still has similar themes but he is just not the same anymore. I think Galio is in the same boat but to a lesser extent.

[@ricaardogarciavelez885]

Aatrox was released right after I started playing. He wasnt my main and I wasnt the best at playing him, but I always enjoyed the old version and it will forever keep a place in my heart. The new version feels much different but it isn't bad, just another playstyle.

[@shanecoffing]

I actually got my mom into playing league of legends by introducing her to old aatrox! He was her favorite champion, because he healed all the time and had a free revive, but still jumped in and did damage (her words not mine). She was so upset when he got reworked, but had mostly moved on to playing mages by then. Good video man.

[@christherazor]

As a main of both new and old Aatrox, I have to admit that his current W is a joke. His old E would be simple, but a far better spell, I mean imo his W is easily the worst spell in the game with 26 seconds cd lvl 1, being skilled last, easily avoided and only cc´s a single target.

[@catrielmarignaclionti4518]

didnt it use to chain everyone in its radius?

[@RB-xc9wg]

I still think his old blood well in combination with his w was one of the coolest mechanics in the game. fairly intuitive, adaptable to playstyle and current situation and most importantly an insanely high skill ceiling without 43 dashes.

[@MettatexYT]

The worst ability in the game? I mean, I can definitely understand it not being a good ability by any means, but "easily the worst spell in the game"? Guess opinions exist for a reason haha.

[@tuyendothikim2781]

@@MettatexYT that title goes to viego's W

[@anomalousbanana2299]

@@tuyendothikim2781 ACTIVE: Blitzcrank shifts into overdrive, gaining bonus attack speed for 5 seconds and bonus movement speed that decays to 10% over the first 2.5 seconds. ATTACK SPEED: 30 / 38 / 46 / 54 / 62% MOVEMENT SPEED: 70 / 75 / 80 / 85 / 90% When Overdrive ends, Blitzcrank is slowed by 30% for 1.5 seconds.

[@PandeBunnyArchive]

First you surprised using Fire Emblem music on a LoL video, then talking about competitive Pokémon and Smash and now you use Touhou Project music??? I didn't know you knew that game that's amazing! Also incredible video is so interesting to look back at the past of this champion because i have pretty much forgot of what he used to be haha

[@brian_cao]

when i heard the touhou music i was like "yo hol' up" and then i was hyped

[@guilhermesena2216]

my man aatrox getting the love he deserves

[@RedAezel]

Had to rewatch a few parts because recognizing the music activated my lizard brain for recognition, ha. Love your videos, and love your music choice for this one

[@monstergarou3848]

I’m glad u have a more balanced take on the new Aatrox. Like I feel for those who one tricked the old version but spam auto attacking melee champions is not an interesting or better design than the current version of the champ

[@apony6263]

Thank you for making the urgot point I've been screaming that into the void for ages now

[@Get_Ogre_Here]

What confuses me about Aatrox’s rework is that old Aatrox filled a similar niche that tryndamere did/does. The difference is that nobody hated pre-rework Aatrox, but everybody hates tryndamere, so I feel like reworking Aatrox instead of Tryndamere was a strange choice.

[@zachearyvang1189]

Nobody hated pre-rework aatrox because no one played him.

[@Get_Ogre_Here]

@@zachearyvang1189 I’d rather have a champ that people are neutral about rather than one that’s actively disliked

[@zachearyvang1189]

@@Get_Ogre_Here Most people didn't even know he existed. That is infinitely much worse than being a champion that is hated by people. Some of the most popular champions are also some of the most hated, so your statement isn't saying much.

[@Get_Ogre_Here]

@@zachearyvang1189 The thing is that he became significantly more well-known after his mini rework, but we didn’t get to see much of it because of the VGU directly afterwards. If they didn’t give him the VGU, he probably would have shot up in popularity in the long-term

[@zachearyvang1189]

@@Get_Ogre_Here Unlikely since conqueror, guinsoos, and titanic hydra have been changed since then. The nerfs that he would've received (if he didn't have his rework) would've placed him back in irrelevancy.

[@SuperNova-nl5eb]

12:00 well yeah, but they took away his entire fucking identity, they were like "lets delete this champion and replace him with this one" they didn't pull a gankplank and made him overall better

[@luukas2660]

Honestly my only problem with the rework was the visuals. Old aatrox looked so damn cool and the auto attacks and abilities were so damn smooth and snappy. New aatrox to me looks somehow really disproportionate, auto attacks feel clunky and the abilities feel slow.

[@nasruexe]

Honestly riot should make an oldschool league where all of the old champions are there along with the deleted items and the og map.

[@theflamingassassin2426]

Vars: Aatrox and Rhaast are the only darkin Va(a)rus: Am I a joke to you?

[@professionalproductions4156]

I started playing about a month after the Aatrox rework. I never knew the "old aatrox" existed until about 6 months after I started maining him. So of course, the new aatrox will always be #1 in my heart.

[@lucasdelliosiv7493]

While I do agree with almost everything said in your channel, I believe that the old Aatrox did have a place in league. By mentioning that he was unfun to play against when ahead, and unfun to play as when behind, you mentioned 99% of all skirmishers. Although he was a flawed diving skirmisher, he was very interesting to play IMO, and it's a shame that they kill him off essentially. Lorewise I do believe that both the former and the current Aatrox could coexist, rito could just pull something out of their ass and there would be no problem

[@georgeindestructible]

Very accurate description of his state(oltrox), good work.

[@Regonix]

I don't remember ability order of the old Aatrox, so I will go by what his abilities did. Yes, old Aatrox could have reworked into competitive and loyal to his old kit champion. Here is how: 1) His passive should store both HP he use for his abilities and HP he loses due to damage from enemy champions. It should not decay over time, but instead get be used as additional resource for his active abilities. In addition, his resource bar maximum values should depend on your maximum HP, thus allowing you to benefit more from building him more tanky; 2) 3rd attack damage: make it AOE, hitting all enemies around your target; 3) His laser, if used with above a certain amount of his resource bar, should become faster and cause an explosion if it hits an enemy champion. This explosion would deal a little bit of addition damage and slow all enemies hit; 4) His jump, if used with above a certain amount of his resource bar, should have increased knock up radius; 5) His R should have become a dash and then cause you to transform. Also, if your passive resurrection triggers while your R is active, then at the end of it you should regain your full resource bar. To compensate for these changes, his abilities would have their values readjusted. However, these changes would have allowed him to keep his old kit and would also make him into a solid counter-pick against certain champions. Also, it would have opened him a few new built patches instead of simply always going full life-steal.

[@SuperRitz44]

I remember being really surprised when they announced Aatrox rework since I tought he was too new of a champion to receive one, compared to others. Made me think they tought they had done a huge mistake

[@aashas8553]

Irelia has so much skill expression! Look at her getting every cs while running people down, healing to full hp from 1 wave and 100% to 0% with her ult. WOW!

[@Osric24]

Better nerf Irelia

[@Takin2000]

I remember building lethality on her because I wanted to oneshot people with w. Guess what, after I stacked my passive, I was still able to duel anyone with auto attacks lmao. This champ really doesnt feel hard to play nor balanced lol

[@aashas8553]

@@Takin2000 I got new Irelia in aram, first timed and i popped off solo quadra dive. Old irelia required practice and people to actually play her to get rewarded (she was bullshit still) but this is too much

[@iUseDemFrapz]

Aashas yeah bro ur right old irelia required way more skill!!!

[@aashas8553]

@@iUseDemFrapz my bad bro, she can 100 to 0 you without hitting e or r :)

[@evilsforreals]

I really love these videos. I would def petition for a video about Karma and her reworks, since even after her initial rework she seems trapped in a weird cycle of being constantly nerfed/readjusted, but still having a high pick/ban rate in pro despite a low winrate

[@federicoxausa2790]

I used to main Aatrox when I was playing this game, he still remains my favourite champion. From one hand I miss the old Aatrox because I putted a lot of effort to learn him and it was quite satisfying, when he got reworked I still liked him darkin blade felt so good to land but imho riot slowly destroied him removing the revive passive and nerfing him to the ground (rn in s11 I don't know if he's good again or not maybe someone can tell me). It's ironic that when he was finally good (the mini rework) they changed him completely, I know it was for the better because old Aatrox was not much healty for the game but still I think the day he got the VGU a part of the champion was lost. P.S thanks for making a video about Aatrox, it's the champion I like the most hands down in all the game

[@personno.6.9billionth70]

Well he was busted when Goredrinker was busted, so not exactly strong because of himself but rather that there was an item that made him a god before they nerfed it hard.

[@kenso2192]

I was wondering why your voice sounded so familiar, you made a lot of maple story videos and I didn't realize until you mentioned the game. Good to see you still making content!

[@VarsVerum]

Hey XD

[@bwebbuva9785]

Well, I have a bit of a weird experience concerning this guy, since i never got to play his old version (and a lot of other pre rework champs, only started playing mid S10). Aatrox was my main for a while, but I dropped him in favor of Yone since I preferred Yone's more basic attack heavy and overall speedier kit. I feel like I wouldve really liked old Aatrox, but now I'll never get to know if I liked him better back then.

[@justanuff]

Better to have loved and lost, than to never have loved at all........ I miss the OG Aatrox.

[@GbrlDown]

I have loved seeing you go from maple to league

[@nihuishe4837]

I miss old Urgot, I really liked his physical caster playstyle with the target lock grenade who make you deal with stealth champion with ease. Rip overweight spider

[@MYOLOLS]

Man his old passive was fun

[@arthuremo112]

I just miss the old aatrox's gameplay. There isn't that many melee champions focused on basic attacks that actually work. I really wish they would bring his old kit back as a completely new champion. That's all i cared about, the kit!

[@brokendaylight1089]

What old aatrox? there're 2 phases of old Aatrox.

[@brokendaylight1089]

@@N12015 yeah that's why i ask what phase of old aatrox? The pre-mini rework old Aatrox or the post-mini rework old Aatrox? Wow now that i typed this out, it's so fucking long.

[@arthuremo112]

@@brokendaylight1089 The latest one.

[@NTTofMistery]

All i want is his old w. It was so interresting to have a toggle between healing and damage, and i cant think of any other champ that has something similar

[@NXTangl]

A new champ with gameplay similar to Old!Aatrox would be super cool. Like, really cool. I feel like it could also be reminiscent of his old lore. Make him a new demon like Tahm and Evelyn, who shows up on the battlefield to lead troops to victory, only to turn on them when they realize the atrocities they've committed. Hire me for lore riot.

[@duc_huy_ngo]

Nice one like always :D As a Kata main i want to see a "Retroperspective" episode for her next

[@joaopedrocruz6432]

I would say that the Sion and Poppy rework kept close to their original play styles. Sion can still stun you and burst you build AD( and less successfully AP,they could buff that). And Poppy is still a Champion that focuses on locking down and damaging a single enemy,the difference is that she knocks other champions away instead of becoming immune to others damages.

[@crysoarl7344]

I mean, not really though. By that extension you can say that Aatrox is still a draintank who turns into a raidboss by pressing R and knockups with his Q. Poppy could be played as a skirmisher/diver that negated your entire team while you picked one character to kill, whereas now she's a warden that acts to protect their team or knock away a priority target at best. Her current lockdown is pretty laughable to what it used to be, many other champs do what she does infinitely better, and definitely not a vanguard. Sion could either play as a drain tank skirmisher that facetanked your entire team while dealing a lot of auto damage or as a hit and run caster. Now he plays more of as a tank or as someone who sits in bushes waiting to hit a Q to maybe hit big damage because of the long cast time and clunkiness of his kit, something that was not nearly as present as before. Both of those champions have definitely had their roles, playstyles, and identity completely taken away from them, even more than Aatrox. But like Vars said their playstyles were so degenerate that anything was better than what they used to be.

[@joaopedrocruz6432]

@@crysoarl7344 Sion was never a tank pre rework,he was extremely squishy. A full AD Sion is a hit and run caster and his passive is really similar to the old Sion. Poppy has way more lockdown now,and you could use your ult and W to isolate a target.

[@crysoarl7344]

@@joaopedrocruz6432 I said Sion was a drain tank, not a tank. Poppy used to get 10 seconds to kill an ADC with her ult. Her lock down now is as limited as E Qing a wall, which she used to have. And it's literally undeniable that these champs are completely different to what they used to be. Aatrox was definitely not the first champion who's kit and play style was taken away from him.

[@joaopedrocruz6432]

@@crysoarl7344 Drain tanks are still tanks ( and the only one was old Swain). Old Poppy could only stun( which is little lockdown), the new Poppy can throw the rest of a team away to focus down a target,or prevent life saving dashes and has the same stun.

[@abklm1517]

followed u from ur maplestory content to league content, ur content's really good!

[@VarsVerum]

Ayyy good to see you XD

[@seeroy8217]

Tbh I would’ve liked if they kept his bloodthirsty passive. If the champion used health to cast abilities, well thats perfect. It would synergies even better with his healing now. Also, the three auto attacks, the choose if you heal or do damage was a really good concept I think, and i would’ve like it to be applied on his passive. Maybe something like every 3rd auto attack you deal a whole lot of damage but loose health, but to balance it a bit more the increase e's passive healing. Or they could also have made him heal on every third auto attack, idk. I'm saying this but he was my first main when I started, and I started after his rework, so of course my opinion would be influenced by this. Whatever, y’all have a great day!

[@flametornado2447]

"considering we only have Aatrox and Rhaast right now" Varus being bullied for not following the double a name convention

[@alejandropetit6573]

If newtrox was a new darkin and they kept oldtrox, with maybe a mini rework but keeping his identity as a drain tanking autoattack based death machine, it would all be alright, now the only thing even remotely similar to oldtrox would be drain tank trundle and onhit warwick top

[@mattphyx]

He actually got a mini rework that fixed most of his problems, like a month before rito decided to fully delete him from the game. It was a pretty much "fuck you" move from devs to Aatrox's players, because they got their champ made viable, only to lose him completely few weeks later in favor of clunkier Riven on steroids.

[@alejandropetit6573]

@@mattphyx yeah that added a lot of salt into the wound

[@Jar0d]

Aatrox was also my first main in season 5, and continued to main him all the way until the rework, so I feel your pain brother, I miss him everyday smh

[@javaniverse9252]

As a champion in game, visuals, voice and Lore new Aatrox is a masterpiece

[@deepdungeon8465]

Pffftt.

[@soleil4332]

great work as always! i would LOVE a galio retrospective if you plan on doing more of these videos because he was completely reworked not only in terms of gameplay but even his lore and appearance are completely different (that and he's my biggest disappointment in terms of rework after old katarina and old swain. yes i loved my ap noxian champions)

[@armandklink4843]

Old Aatrox was my main since release and the entire fiasco is just traumatically sad. His current state is a hundred times better than the abomination that was originally released 3 years ago as he is at least a real draintank instead of a scuffed assassin hybrid, but as a rework it still fails to what a rework is supposed to do

[@matijastankovic7900]

Cool pfp

[@koroxo1152]

You played the old aatrox as a assassin????? what

[@armandklink4843]

@@koroxo1152 He had disgusting amount of free AD in his kit, 2 dashes and an on demand revive, so everyone played him with Electrocute and Ghostblade on both top and mid. Do people really dont remember a strat that tore up SoloQ 3 years ago?

[@senjubunny]

one thing i absolutely hate about the aatrox VGU is how he LOOKS, his old version had a small element of body horror because of how ragged and gruesome he looked, his sword looked very much alive, pulsing and stretching. Current aatrox tho? he looks like he's made of stone with some flesh mixed in, and overall he's not imposing despite how bulky they made him. old aatrox was kind of lanky and atrophied, whether intentional or not, and that looked sick imo

[@keeperofthehammer6795]

The main difference between Aatrox and Riven is Aatrox doesn't have to worry about having 90% of his kit turned off by a yordle with a big hammer.

[@dqvoltheweak6689]

Instead, his kit is turned off by a summoner spell and armour.

[@theteamxxx3142]

@@dqvoltheweak6689 EN GARDE!

[@apolux359]

@@dqvoltheweak6689 800 gold item>>>Aatrox

[@hungrymusicwolf]

11:34 Actually I was pretty upset with the Poppy rework as I absolutely loved playing her before it. Though I understand the need for it I was still upset. Urgot the reason why so few people are upset is because everyone has been on the receiving end of it, and it was miserable. So most people hated his identity even if they enjoyed playing him. And Sion really didn't fit his own identity. He was supposed to be a healing fighter with a lot of damage, but somehow he turned into a two shot mage with his point and click stun and supersized aoe shield explosion. So, he actually kept most of his identity with the shield explosion and aoe knockup on his Q on top of his passive turning him into a healing fighter. Then on top of that they added onto his Identity by turning him into a train (his ultimate). So Sion got to keep what he was AND got more. (His ad lethality version kept the Q + W oneshot Sion, his passive kept the Healing fighting Sion, and then he got a tanky train goes boom on top of that). 12:36 There are better ways to solve the problem of auto attackers feeling unfair and unfun. Take for example the Fiora rework, her Q is an amazing example of turning an Auto attacker into a duelist with counter play. There are better ways of achieving what they have, but let's be real here Riots designers often times just get overexcited and want to put their own stamp on a Champion rather than make the game more enjoyable for players *cough* Aphelios 200 years *cough*. Often times Riot prefers making their designers happy over making the players happy, and I believe they often do not even remember what it is that makes players happy considering Shyvana being high up on the rework list and look at where she is now. They must have made an *executive* decision to put Mundo ahead of Shyvana.

[@TwitterVS]

I'm a proud old Urgot player!

[@CHNO-kl9bn]

Dunno why urgot went from a mid lane caster to a toplane juggernaut ... i feel like he got reworked just cuz he was ugly as balls

[@delfinenteddyson9865]

Old poppy was my favorite champion. One of my first champions to hit mastery 5 on; I still miss her :(

[@Archinemi]

You always mention old, large reworks, but never mention Galio: the largest rework of his time. Perhaps a discussion on Galio? I mained the old Galio, and hated the new one for ages, but I understand the new one is more diverse and approachable. Keep up the good work, I always love your videos. Been watching for a while ❤️

[@skkadoot9533]

tbh, i had absolutely forgotten that galio had been reworked, the old one feels like it was from anywhere else except league

[@kotwczapce1742]

at lest old galio was fun, new one is literally like alistar, but alistar is at lest somewhat fun to play, the only thing on old galio that needed change was his visuals

[@xayah8554]

I hated the old galio ngl and just love the new one. Love his personality, love his playstyle (for the kid that says it's like alistar: play ali then galio, they have legit nothing in common, saying this as an alistar main) but i do think he needs some love cause he's in a terrible spot atm.

[@kotwczapce1742]

old galio was the most anti mage champion you could get, new one is literally a tank offering cc for team and protecting them, old one was kinda like old ap nunu, offering some poke and strong in defense cause of his ulti, i never liked new galio mainly cause of his R

[@Archinemi]

Old Galio W was so fun. And kiting all day with Q then E was also so fun. New Galio is great (now that I've found a fun build), but they are worlds apart. This is another example of changing someone so much they could have both been in the game. I miss having a TRUE anti-carry/anti-mage. But maybe that was no fun for other people. New Galio build - Rockebelt, Horizon Focus, Abyssal Mask. Belt towards them for MS boost, Start with full W, then Q E AA. The latter 2 items give you 10 and 15% boosted damage (25% is HUGE) after hard CC. I have 1-shot a Gwen and an Irelia from a bush, both from full HP (Irelia typed "3K HP BTW!''). Last items can depend greatly: Lich, Dcap, Thornmail, ZH, Banshees, and boots I prefer Lucidity if I can deal with their team. Runes - Aftershock, Shield Bash, Second Wind (for lane phase), Revitalize (to boost the Second Wind healing and giving bigger passive shield meaning more damage from shield bash), Sudden Impact and Ultimate Hunter.

[@gcjas1998]

Touhou café background ost huh. And Perfect Cherry Blossom at that. Fine taste, my fellow connoisseur.

[@Flynnick]

Well, tbh I never really cared for the old Aatrox, I might have seen him a dozen of times max in the year I played before his rework... so in my eyes it is a very successful rework. I picture the old as forgettable, and boring, while the new one can make plays and clutch fights like TheShy did against G2 in semi-finals of worlds. I've never understood the criticism on his rework...

[@martinrodriguez1329]

It's not the same champion, the original is a duelist while the new one is a juggernaut sort of fighter, they didn't keep it's identity despite having a really good one, because sion's and urgot's rework were also changing a lot but those 2 didn't really have an identity per say. That's why it's such a bad rework, because those are supposed to give someone a more updated kit while still being the same, and in this case that didn't happen.

[@madsgrams2069]

And the saddest thing here is that...it didn't have to be this way... Altough the old Aatrox had sort of become a meme for how bad he was, his kit wasn't unsalvageable at all. This is how I would have handled it: keep his GA-like passive, but make it so that it completely consumes all of his secondary bar resource, upon reanimating. And this bar gets filled by doing damage with auto-attacks (more from the empowered ones) and now acts like Shyvana's rage, never going down if not doing damage, only being consumed when used by the passive. And the value of this bar will determine how much of his health Aatrox has when reanimating, from a minimum of 20%, when the bar's empty, to a maximum of 50% when it's full. When it's full, Aatrox would visually harden his his exo-skeleton, gaining flat bonuses in both armor and MR, which he would lose upon the bar being consumed. And the bar would have different colors depending on state: gray, if the revive passive is on CD, red, if the revive passive is off of CD, but the bar is incomplete and golden when it's full and the revive passive is off of CD. His Q would remain the same Dark Flight (cause free-target blink abilities are awesome and the one he has now is beyond pityful), but now the damage circle is made up of two concentric zones: the inner, smaller one causes a knock-up to targets, while the outer, bigger one just a slow (or maybe bigger damage, to make you choose between raw damage and hard CC). On his W would come the biggest change, since him having to choose between bonus damage and healing on his aa was the biggest, stupidest flaw in his design. Now, instead of a toggle ability, it would be an ability with both a passive and an active. The passive would be similar to Xin Zhao's actual passive (bonus damage and healing every third aa), only slightly stronger in damage and the healing being a percentage of the damage dealt (life-steal starting at 4% at level 1 of the ability and ending at 20% at level 5) and the active would be a temporary buff that makes all of his aa during the period be empowered and actually even slightly stronger. His E would still be a skill-shot that slows, but now it's in an actual straight line (instead of the weird triangular path it used to have), a stab with his sword in a chosen direction, similar to Viego's Q. And if he hits at least one enemy champion, he also gains some bonus attack speed. Now, the ultimate would be the best part: he still becomes a scary raid -boss, getting a bigger model, gaining range, movement speed, ignoring unit collision, losing his ability to crit (he wouldn't build crit anyway, since he should build bruiser with an accent on health), but instead gaining a huge AD bonus (12%, 24%, 50% of his total AD). His aa animation also changes, cause his sword is now a whip. His healing on his W also increases by 50% (meaning 20% life-steal now becomes 30%, this does not scale with the life-steal he has from items, as that would be way too much). And the icing on the cake: if he uses his ultimate while his Blood Well bar is full, he consumes it all (but ONLY if it's full, if it isn't, he doens't consume any of it) and increases his maximum health by 30% (like with Nasus and Renekton when they uses their ultimates), while still retaining his armor and MR bonuses, but only as long as the ultimate is active. Of course, this will guarantee that when his revive passive gets triggered, he will only have 20% of his maximum health. This will make him think about whether he wants to keep this bar until he gets "killed' intiially and make his second chance not (basically) worthless or if he wants to make his ultimate even scarier, but basically forgo his second lease on life.

[@jeluenhayo2410]

"The only champs who can inflict a lot of AOE damage through AAs are ad-carries with Runaan's" - also Kayle.

[@Mikey-ve6wd]

Heh, maybe it's being cheeky but I'm glad someone's said it

[@NovaSuperGamers]

Great video, finally someone who appreciates the new aatrox :)

[@zarekodynski9077]

People don’t realize how different the rework made him compared to other reworks. (Besides yorick that is). Literally none of his abilities stayed the same, and his play style completely changed. Poppy still has short range %hp damage Q (just became aoe skill shot), W still a movement speed buff (just gained an aura with an effect), E is still the exact same, R is the most different but in a healthy way and if used properly can still isolate a target. Her passive was completely changed but in a good way as it was boring and hard to notice before, though very op. Pantheon still has a stacking passive (just offensive instead of defensive, ranged damage Q with crit on low health (just aoe skill shot), W is exactly the same, E kind of took the old E and passive and mashed them together, R is for all intents and purposes exactly the same. I could go on and on, but the point is that they all kept most of their abilities and identities intact, even though in some cases the design goals didn’t match the identities in practice, Poppy was a good example, you could look at her design and see she was designed to be a tanky single target lock down champ, but her damage scaling and the interactions with her passive and ult just allowed her to build full damage and 1 shot while still being pretty tanky. That could have been solved with balance changes easily, or they just add some unique parts to her kit and she still plays relatively the same (e into wall and q the enemy).

[@mrwhit8859]

So as a player who didn't start playing until waaaay after the rework (I started playing the day of the Voli rework) and for the longest time I was extremely confused because it they way I understood things was aatrox was bad, got buffed everybody played him then reworked and it seemed like everyone didn't start playing him until the rework was announced which confused me. I wasn't aware that the "buffs" were actually a mini-rework. This helped me understand things better thanks vars

[@PedroAce]

Let's be clear. Its total BS that Aatrox had to lose most all his healing and his revive mechanic from the rework. If you can't make the rework balanced just revert it. Look at the champs since he was reworked. No he was not overloaded they were lazy at balancing a very good unique champ. As an original Aatrox player I didn't mind the rework, it wasn't great but i knew it wouldn't be everything i wanted. Then they gutted everything that made him Aatrox. Exil summed it up best in his video, Aatrox is no longer in League of legends, there's just a person walking around using his name.

[@neveahphillips5610]

Aatrox isn’t even a champ anymore lmao, riot actually hates him, just stupid nerfs every 5 seconds.

[@PedroAce]

@@neveahphillips5610 I agree the last line sums up my feelings on what happened to Aatrox.

[@GoodGuySatan]

@@abcdefgh-kt9fx Then all is good since he didn't say that it was his identity. He was talking about how he was losing parts of what he initially was as a champion, including most of his healing.

[@PedroAce]

@@abcdefgh-kt9fx As Mr. Satan stated, I did not say his revive was his identity, In fact i agree His mass healing and unkillable feeling was the best part of him. His Revive just was another piece of him torn away.

[@user-vc1gd4jg1f]

@@abcdefgh-kt9fx yes but they still completely ruined him for a lot of people, if you told me his abilities four years ago I would think it was a riven rework or an entirely new champion

[@Maligator16]

Aatrox s7 was consistent in every battle. dive into the enemy and just press R, you got full passive instantly and got the atk speed + revive. Bring back old Aatrox!

[@ytb_999]

When the Sett video is coming?

[@VarsVerum]

Soon!

[@TheRemJob]

Great video as always ! ^^ I was inspired by your style for my " how to League " video, thanks

[@dubious5859]

New aatrox fans: starts casting first q. Enemy team sees that he is cc'd and kills him Oldtrox enjoyers: dives into 5 people and begins draintanking 600hp every 2 hits while shredding everyone. Dies, comes back to finish the job and pushes nexus without minions.

[@HamsterPants522]

Also old aatrox: Tries to dash and gets CC'd before it happens.

[@mattphyx]

Also oldtrox: somehow misses the Q knockup and dies because of it xD

[@TheLastAatroxMain]

Also new aatrox: Tries to cc with W but enemy just walks out of it.

[@TheLastAatroxMain]

Also new aatrox: 0.25 second knock up Q that roots yourself in place so adc can just stand still and auto you to death

[@mattphyx]

@@TheLastAatroxMain Also new Aatrox: W doesn't activate the pull zone despite damaging enemy

[@lucasbrown1671]

I feel like a why no one plays on Ivern would be sick given how unique his playstyle is.

[@SandwichGuardian]

Won't say anything except that old aatrox looked cooler.

[@rintarouokabe9386]

I personally liked his old theme better the kind of angelic demon of death and carnage vs the imprisoned madman.

[@taylordrummond9116]

Aatrox was one of favorite Champs to play before the visual update, had a blast playing him support tank XD

[@RadicalJawzFunnyMoments]

I love both aatrox’s so much but I think I like the new one more. Few things are more satisfying than landing a multi-man 3rd q in ult to deal half their health and healing to full with it and goredrinker

[@Granglife]

I have watched both spotlights and the documentary about him But this video is by far the best at explaining his rework simple and understandable And I have to agree with you basic attack is not an attractive trait on fighters cause they're supposed to be the mid ground between tanks and assasins Not as fast as assasins but not as slow as tank they also deal more damage than tank but not as fast as assassins they're better as skill caster cause unless they have some ability to make them stick to enemies or immortality or some sort of defence buff or ammunity in their skills In The before rework looked like he didn't have a purpose after the rework he seems to have found his playstyle

[@MLGSWAGMASTER]

SUPER TOP HASHINSHIN

[@choppyc967]

Honestly i know you've talked about some characters reworks in wnop and weop vids but I would love to see some gameplay of older characters and have their reworks talked about, I got to league around the item update and I cant really find much if any good videos talking about older champs reworks comprehensively, so that could be nice

[@alexllenas4607]

Old Aatrox wan't good before it's rework, Riot just overbuff him and because they knew that in some months they would rework him didn't nerf him back. The people that remember the "prime" of Aatrox when he was good don't remember that he simply was op after years of been forgotten.

[@zertyf7427]

Finaly someone who dares speak the thruth. 90% of the people bitching for a revert are abusers of his mini rework who never picked OG Aatrox

[@joebizs]

@@zertyf7427 Right? almost nobody played old Aatrox because he was unappealing and shit. New Aatrox was a much needed change and step in the right direction.

[@sauron1414]

Finally some people with fucking common sense, how is it so rare finding people like you nowadays.

[@mrowsudyn6506]

Mentioning Marth without tipper connection is hilarious, good reference.

[@RoessanAdeverVCua]

THANK YOU FOR THIS! As an Aatrox main for a very long time since release, I love the old one but the new Aatrox is much better for me. More skill impressions than just doing auto attacks. Playing the old Aatrox is so clunky as you said for every champ can counter him.

[@TheLastAatroxMain]

Other way around

[@RoessanAdeverVCua]

@@TheLastAatroxMain as he said in 7:45, old Aatrox is very counter pickable. Too squishy for a diver.

[@tongduy2017]

Watch Naayil play dude. New Aatrox is like a dance, youre just bad.@@TheLastAatroxMain

[@TheLastAatroxMain]

@@tongduy2017 mmm no the champ is just dog shit riven and gets sht on by a majority of top laners. You idiots are coping thinking this rework is good. Old Aatrox actually has in lane sustain, Dps, actually scales late game, burst, you can build many items on him even ap, he can split push and is an actual threat 1v1. If old aatrox was in the game right now with new runes and items he would shit on new aatrox along with all of top lane. New Aatrox does barely any damage to minions and tickles champions especially tanks, doesn't heal on minions and barely heals vs champs and grevious wounds fucks him even harder, Super long cooldowns and is immediately useless after using his Q's, his W is completely useless when even a grandma can walk out of it, his E is micro penis dash that does nothing. I watch Naayil he faces literal idiots that walk into his Q's and his team actually helps him a lot. You have to actually autistic to lose vs aatrox so no "ur bad".

[@TheLastAatroxMain]

@@RoessanAdeverVCua nope

[@MrGummyCraft]

Can’t wait for the Urgot Retrospective

[@niklasmaier2664]

"im talking yorick levels off irrelevant" ouch just like in the event

[@purpleparadox6328]

E-boy vs bunch of influencers

[@justanuff]

The truth is Riot doesn't give a sheet about Yorick because Riot can see the stats of the player base and skin lines, and they see that Yorick isn't very popular, in both picks and skin purchases, Riot loves dat money. Maybe they should completely change him like they did Aatrox.............. make his shovel bigger, his muscles bigger, give him 3 knock ups on his q, remove the maiden of the mist and just make him go big instead, since you know their whole story is irrelevant.

[@NTTofMistery]

While that is fun to say i dont think aatrox was that irrelevant. Why i think that is because at some point riot removed mana pots from the game. To compensate they gave almost every champ that has mana, more base mana and more mana regen as compensation. Every champ...except yorick who was already a mana hungry champ.

[@beyonderaatrox1670]

Got sent this vid from a friend. Great analysis man. It's always interesting to see so many people coming out to support Old aatrox, when his playrate had been the lowest in the game for most of his existence. I agree that his popularity would be like Yorick or Illaoi; probably even lower haha. Anyways solid video, and I wonder if that was me you're talking about from MapleStory?

[@VarsVerum]

Nope it wasn't you XD

[@CleverCheetah]

“With his ultimate, Aatrox can do 2000 damage with a full q rotation” Goodluck trying to land skills that have a long windup and small hitbox on players that have a brain.

[@skkadoot9533]

that is the point, high risk high reward, it wouldn't be fair if it wasn't easy to dodge

[@CleverCheetah]

@@skkadoot9533 That is the point? Get out of here with that bullshit. The point is there's TOO many champs that don't have this amount of counterplay and are simply better. Riven, Camille, Irelia, Garen, Morderkaiser, Darius, and too many others top laners are much easier to play doing the same amount of damage.

[@CleverCheetah]

@@skkadoot9533 Like I said decent players that have the brains will dump you. If you're gonna main aatrox go play Riven instead.

[@ultimatesonic47]

@@CleverCheetah are you actually nuts?! the problem there isnt aatrox at all, its all those champs that doesnt have counterplay or are simply overpowered, its like if you were in boxing fight you use the reglamentary gloves but everyone else is using brass knuckles, the rest obviusly has it easier but not for that you are wrong in this case you and aatrox would be the only ones doing it the way it should be

[@CleverCheetah]

@@ultimatesonic47 Ok show me your rank and prove that you only played aatrox.

[@GrzyMckneezy]

Aatrox rework was the only champ I played when I first started league. I love this champion there isn't a better champion in terms of fun in my opinion

[@2g4u56]

Any old aatrox missers? I miss old aatrox, not the NEW AATROX because he's BAD, i love the OLD AATROX because he's OLD

[@limonthe42nd40]

I loved him because of AP aatrox full hp zombie

[@joekenwood4956]

@@limonthe42nd40 ap what? Wasnt his sword beam only thing scaling off of ap?

[@limonthe42nd40]

@@joekenwood4956 No His Ult did too so u can leap R for MASSIVE DAMAGE!

[@filipkotlaja8697]

I know its a meme of its own at this point, but i would love to see a retrospective on all the iterations of my only consistent main(sorta) across 9 seasons: Ryze. Since he did go through multiple lore changes, multiple playstyle and identity reworks, and has been a consistent nightmaring balance (or was it the other way around) for Rito.