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[@VASAviation]

Note to self: check Max wingspan of all taxiways before entry, no matter what ATC says.

[@marcel1416]

Also BB2 is closed for aircraft with wingspan greater than 36m (118'). Source: Jeppesen Chart 20-9 of KORD. The 777 is a liiiiiittle bit bigger than that, so ATC definetly messed up sending them there. But to agree with you -> The (Jeppesen) chart has a note and a visual indicator for BB2 saying exactly that - so the pilots could have avoided that with a quick but thourogh brief of the taxi route.

[@iParsian]

That is true! but there is too much trust in ATC these days. Definitely, I will be more careful from now on, great lesson!

[@SlipShodBob]

Could be worse the chief pilot could be the pilot's mum 🫣

[@NicolaW72]

Yes, indeed.

[@sawning3449]

NO FAIR! You didn't share the rest of the transmission.

[@A.J.1656]

For those asking why there are light poles, that is a large de-icing area. The lights are set up to illuminate the parking spots where the jets are de-iced and inspected by the ICEMAN.

[@pistonburner6448]

I don't want to brag, but I knew that light poles are for illuminating the area.

[@touch2ndgen]

Kimi Raikonnen?

[@A.J.1656]

@@touch2ndgen Val Kilmer. Haha

[@pistonburner6448]

@@touch2ndgen *Räikkönen

[@bowdoin5063]

Not large enough apparently

[@TheFamilyman7]

I was travelling past O'hare today on I-90 which has clear views of the AA and UA hangars. I saw a Qatar acft parked by the AA hangars and was wondering why it was there. NOW I know why from your video.

[@Jmjbs]

Damn you didnt see the hole in the wing?

[@TheFamilyman7]

@@Jmjbs Not from a mile away. 😁

[@blackmusik109]

​@@TheFamilyman7 Just turn up the radio volume in the warthunder settings 😂

[@rickbanet4830]

Obviously, the pilots are responsible for clearance while taxiing, but the controller should not have sent them down a taxiway that wasn't wide enough for the aircraft.

[@AlphaSaber]

Reminds me of the British Airways A380 that had to land at Minneapolis-St. Paul video. There the pilot corrected the controller and requested to taxi back along the runway because they couldn't fit on the taxiway the controller gave them. Which is understandable in that case since A380s typically don't land there.

[@EdOeuna]

If the pilots are in doubt then they should stop and verify.

[@rickbanet4830]

@@EdOeuna You read well? Of course, they should, but the controller is going to catch some heat for this also.

[@EdOeuna]

@@rickbanet4830 - I read just fine thanks for asking. And that includes taxi charts.

[@slates010]

@@EdOeuna they probably weren't in doubt.... at first 😆

[@samuelstroh8631]

PILOT: "Ground, possible ATC deviation, I have a phone number for you to copy when you are ready" haha

[@unrestrictedclimb]

😂

[@dennymontgomery9716]

👍👍

[@allgrainbrewer10]

Pilot hits a pole after failing to read chart....

[@Cadence-qt2ux]

Never gna happen :(

[@johnopalko5223]

BB2 is closed to aircraft with wingspans over 118 feet (36 meters) so I guess Ground really messed up here. Still, you would think the pilots would have questioned the taxi instructions.

[@wouterbmx072]

Do the pilots have a map or chart with max wingspans per taxiway?

[@Jeats]

@@wouterbmx072 affirm

[@johnopalko5223]

@@wouterbmx072 That information is readily available. In the U.S. it's in an FAA publication called the "Chart Supplement." Knowing what the Supplement says about every airport of intended use should be a part of every pilot's preflight planning.

[@AsBe25.]

You should know which taxi ways you can take or not take especially if you have Cat D aircraft.

[@EdOeuna]

It took me about 10 seconds to find BB2 on a chart, see it had a restriction of some sort then look at the airport information to see that BB2 was restricted to 36m wingspan.

[@eh42]

So is BB2 the new 8-foot-11?

[@danielbierwirth2190]

we'll need to get a camera mounted so we can watch.

[@kikastra]

Pilot almost sounded apologetic when he said "I think we hit a pole with our right wing". No man, you should have said "you put us on the wrong taxiway!!"

[@mitcho04]

Final dispensation is with the crew unfortunately.

[@kikastra]

@@mitcho04 Yeah this is true. But the controller still taxied them down the wrong runway. Just because the final decision is up to the pilot, doesn't mean the controller doesn't have to do their job. But mostly I was just making fun of the situation from a non-aviation technical viewpoint 👍

[@tieoneon5240]

well they're in chicago so running into a Pole isnt that unusual

[@ChicagoAirportSpotter]

This was a pole, not a Pole

[@nsudatta-roy8154]

@@ChicagoAirportSpotter Very funny? But true.

[@sawning3449]

Naturally unstable, too, since the pole was on the right side of the plane.

[@surrealtom]

Good thing it wasn't Lufthansa

[@stopthecrazynow]

That's besides the point They lowered ALL THE HIRING QUALIFICATIONS FOR PILOTS AND AIR TRAFFIC CONTROLLERS EXPECT MORE OF THIS!

[@truevulgarian]

Possible ATC deviation.

[@tomstewart5355]

doesn't matter if ATC give you a clearance, as a commander you have the responsibility to reject their clearance if you are unable. There is a significant chance this was after a long flight so fatigue and "get-home-itis" were involved leading to the crew to lose situational awareness and then the incident happened. ATC shouldn't have cleared them onto BB or Z (wherever the collision happened), but the crew had the chance to rectify ATC's mistake. They didn't. Thankfully, the only things hurt was a pole, a 777 wing and some ego's. Everyone will learn from it, that's what matters

[@rudiklein]

"Ground, are you ready to write down a number?"

[@SodawarsGaming]

@@tomstewart5355 This was actually a relatively short hop from Atlanta, flight time 91 minutes. However, that plane had also done a 9 hour flight from Luxembourg earlier in the day.

[@ianhawthorn1527]

The pole was told to line up and wait.

[@samuelwhaley6658]

"I think" Dude, the pole almost went right through xD

[@nenblom]

That’s a lot of damage. Luckily no one was injured, I hope.

[@ChicagoAirportSpotter]

@@nenblom No injuries, just a damaged 777 that's currently AOG here outside my office window and a light pole that was taken down earlier today.

[@realulli]

It went in to about where the first spar is. Any further might have ended badly for the pole. There's a video out there of an airliner hitting a similar light pole. Plane just about taxis through the pole...

[@hagridsbike4143]

@@ChicagoAirportSpotter LOVE your channel!

[@ChicagoAirportSpotter]

@@hagridsbike4143 Thank you 😊 ☺️

[@yassir8255]

Crazy how just a small mistake have such a big impact on the plane, the company, and passengers.

[@ronaldfischer1195]

Looked like a 777F so no pax probably. Still going be an expensive repair though

[@ChicagoAirportSpotter]

No passengers - this was a freighter

[@WaveFlightSimulations]

And all Pilots got fired

[@pistonburner6448]

Crazy? Isn't that pretty typically what happens in crashes?

[@andymacmac9151]

@@WaveFlightSimulations why were the pilots fired?they were following ATC directions!

[@alexandersteel7272]

My first thought went to Warthunder "There's a pole in your right wing!"

[@boctopus9823]

lol

[@chrisolsen5280]

LOLOLOL

[@surrealtom]

Should've attacked the D point instead 🤷‍♂️

[@outermarker5801]

Qatar: "I think we hit a pole" ATC: "Can't be, LOT just took off"

[@neunundfuenfzig]

Oh man…hahah

[@othername1000]

And ground is still trying to figure out what he should say

[@thebarkingmouse]

Well at least it was only a light hit.... ...

[@irchrisb]

lol

[@BeastNZ]

Will you be here all nighht?

[@NBT2469]

I hate you! 😂😂😂😂😂

[@outermarker5801]

🥁!

[@peterbrown6224]

I needed that smile today. Thank you.

[@Alice-ui9oy]

Hate seeing these beautiful big birds damaged in any way.... Such a shame. Feel sorry for the pilots; even if they don't receive any disciplinary action, this situation just really sucks.

[@bradowen761]

All four of them were immediately sacked.

[@Alice-ui9oy]

@@bradowen761 Source?

[@z00h]

@@Alice-ui9oy phake news

[@kaasmeester5903]

Those taxiways look like that game where you have to tilt a wooden board in order to guide a steel ball around a bunch of holes in the board.

[@Sorchia56]

Co-Pilot: ‘we’ll just buff that out, Captain’! I’m buckled 😂😂😂😂

[@tebelshaw9486]

Nothing a little duct tape won't fix

[@toddphillips8899]

Surprisingly strong light pole

[@EG-0611]

Made in USA :p

[@joeybloggs2100]

If only the twin towers were made of the same material

[@Ramases.1]

@@joeybloggs2100 yeah instead of re-enforced concrete and steel lol... Very strange indeed lol

[@TonyP9279]

I think another international carrier, not sure if it was Air France or Lufthansa said that flying into O'hare is a required part of their line-training due to it's complexity.

[@EdOeuna]

Flying into any American airport is a hazard to your career.

[@yerunski]

ATC was literally speechless after that message.

[@mango7862]

All should get fired

[@mickybadia]

Ooh. Not exactly a benign mishap. A shame we don't have a few minutes more of the tape to hear the reactions and how they deal with the situation while it is hot.

[@YouCanHasAccount]

Cue insurance companies re-enacting the Spiderman pointing at Spiderman meme.

[@EdOeuna]

Every chart I can see if the airport shows that BB2 is restricted in some way, and a few seconds of further investigation shows that the taxiway has a wingspan restriction of 36m. ATC shouldn’t have sent them there, and the pilots are at fault for accepting the clearance down a taxiway clearly marked as being restrictive in some way.

[@Boodieman72]

Don't often see poles on taxi and runways...probably because of this.

[@mlehky]

That area is used as the central deicing facility, the lights are required so they can adequately deice and inspect the aircraft prior to departure. Hence the need for lights.

[@pistonburner6448]

@@mlehky ...so as he said: it's not really a taxiway or runway.

[@Boodieman72]

@@mlehky So why are they taxing an aircraft there that doesn't need to be de-iced?

[@mlehky]

@@Boodieman72 because it is also sometimes used as a holding area during delays or if gates are tied up. Also sometimes used to offload cargo aircraft if the cargo ramp is full. But primarily designed for deicing as the ramp has the needed lighting, surface marking, and drainage to recover the deice fluid.

[@dannybau]

@@mlehky I can confirm this. I was on a departing flight that the pilot put it "was put in timeout" because of a ground hold at the destination. We stayed there for about an hour parked there.

[@borisglevrk]

Note to self: IRL light poles have hit boxes. (They don't in MSFS 2020 and that's good policy because MSFS puts light posts in all the wrong places.)

[@Shadow__133]

Imagine the bloodbath if Microsoft💩 added collision to ground vehicles or AI airplanes 😂

[@borisglevrk]

@@Shadow__133 Not bloodbath, shitstorm is more like it.

[@Shadow__133]

@@borisglevrk Lol! At least something exciting and realistic would happen for once in this game.

[@charlestoast4051]

Wow, incompetence from the ground controllers - even if the pilots should have known not to use that taxiway.

[@silverbullet700]

Nope pilots fault

[@TiagoSeiler]

Pilot "IN COMMAND". He can always refuse ATC if his aircraft is not fit for the route. ATC has no obligation of knowing every single wingspan of every aircraft around.

[@MrSlugny]

@@TiagoSeiler unfortunately you are correct 💯👍 coming from the marine industry

[@Slytiger3]

@@TiagoSeiler ATC however is responsible to know the taxiway restrictions on their airport...

[@lizzw4216]

@@TiagoSeiler but the pilot has to know every airport area and restrictions? I’m not being sarcastic I’m actually curious lol

[@XerxesGammon200]

They didn't that infamous horror warning: TERRAIN TERRAIN! pull LEFT! PULL left! TERRAIN!?

[@MichelleBradley]

TXL BB2 CLSD TO WINGSPAN MORE THAN 118 FT

[@fumo7887]

Just to be clear though, on FAA charts anyway, that little nugget is buried in a blob of text that, at normal print size, would cover an entire page. When you're taxiing around the airport, there's a degree of trust to the Ground controller to give you a valid route. "Ground, thank you for that complex taxi instruction. Please let me re-read the novel that is ground restrictions at O'hare while I double-check your work". Bottom line - this kind of airport navigation is extremely outdated. The aviation industry is consistently reliant on large blobs of text that vary in relevance.

[@EdOeuna]

On Lido charts the taxiway is coloured amber suggesting that it is restrictive in some way. Stop the plane and find out why, from either the associated airport pages or from ATC.

[@ChicagoAirportSpotter]

THANK YOUUUUUUUU!!!!!

[@dougiee89]

Did the audio feed end after the last pilot’s transmission notifying ground about the incident?

[@bravodelta3083]

Someone's going to have a meeting without coffee and biscuits (and possibly chairs!).

[@littlespinycactus]

Excuse my ignorance, but are controllors not aware of the what type of plane is under their control at any given time? If so, surely they must have some idea of the wingspan of the plane they are currently directing and be familiar with widths of taxiways at the airport where they work day in, day out. If yes to all of the above- and assuming the pilot didn't zig when he should have zagged- how on earth did a dirty great 777 get sent down a taxiway that couldn't accommodate it?

[@jonathanbott87]

From what videos I've seen plane type is specifically provided to ATC

[@chrispustelnikas8922]

We see the aircraft type on the flight strip. We also have access to a list of all aircraft types and characteristics of that aircraft including wingspan. Also if the controller was unsure he could ask. "(Callsign), say wingspan" Ground is responsible for knowing all taxiway restrictions. Guy just made a mistake and sent a big aircraft somewhere he shouldn't have.

[@FlyingFarhan]

Controllers are fully aware of the type of airplane. The transponders provide them with all the information plus they have the flight plan as well.

[@lnavvnav7484]

Depends on the charts. If they were using LIDO the APC chart did NOT show this taxiway as unavailable for that type. The crew operate to literally 100s of destinations and cannot be expected to know every limitation at every airport even though it was probably buried in the AOIs . Add to this jet lag and brutal rosters. This was the ground controllers fault who should have known better given that all he has to worry about is one part (ground) of one airport.

[@PatrickSennett]

Just send the bill to the City of Chicago Department of Aviation. They designed the ridiculous system of taxiways and the ridiculous six parallel runways

[@mruppity64]

It’s interesting reading the “who’s to blame” comments, my understanding I thought Aviation didn’t work like that - i can’t imagine any of the parties deliberately wanted to damage the aircraft, so it’s trying to work out how/why it happened and stop it happening again

[@S1L3NTG4M3R]

Ouch - - THANKS :)

[@daverudnick2153]

That's bad. But not AS bad as that 747 cargo freighter that sucked a luggage container into its #4 engine last winter. Also in Chicago.

[@NicolaW72]

Indeed. I remember this incident very well.

[@svelements]

Wait what?

[@roffel6876]

Hmmm, not sure. 🤔You can switch an entire engine even if it costs millions. Redoing a wing and getting it recertified might be just as expensive. At least no luggage got hurt this time, so there's that. 😅

[@SouthWalesSOX]

ohh trust me, this will be waaaay more expensive than a 747 engine.

[@MABeltran86]

Dave you mean it’s number 1 engine.

[@Turboy65]

The ceo of Qatar is probably trying to figure out how to blame Airbus for this.

[@soeren72]

HAHAHHA. that weasel

[@javiTests]

And I thought I had a bad day because I spilled some coffee this morning... 😂😂😂😂 That controller is going to be happy for a few days...

[@bigpapa870]

Anyone have an idea how much a "little mistake" like this would approximately cost??

[@Dexi]

Depending on how much of the wing needs to be replaced... probably anywhere from about $100,000 to several million?

[@craftminer49er]

Full wing replacement plus cost of labor. Would probably be in the 10s of millions of dollars

[@slappymcgillicuddy7532]

depends if that fuel tank in the wing was damaged as well

[@alexglanowski695]

That would depend on the model. For a 300er, approximately 20 million, manpower not included. For an 800 or 900, somewhere between twice and three times as much

[@bigpapa870]

@@craftminer49er in this type of cases even if the hole it's not that big the wing needs to be entirely replace?!!

[@mango7862]

You think you hit a pole ? No, you don’t think genius ! 😂😂😂

[@TheGospelQuartetParadise]

I think ATC, the pilots, AND the airline have shared responsibility here.. Pilots should have info on the airport they are flying into including the width of all taxiways. Had the pilot known that, he could have given ATC Ground a negative on the request due to restricted wingtip clearance. Ground controllers should have a chart showing which aircraft can operate on taxiways more narrow than others. If the pilot wasn't sure he should have requested a wingwalker. But the airline cannot blame the incident entirely on the pilot. They should always provide the pilot with the information needed.

[@chrispustelnikas8922]

Pilots have that information on taxiway diagrams. ATC knows all the taxiway restrictions and has access to charts that show all aircraft wingspans. They can also just ask a pot his wingspan if not sure. They both messed up. GC shouldn't have sent him there. Pilot should've caught his mistake.

[@EdOeuna]

Many airports have ground charts that are specifically for heavy and super aircraft and so show only the taxiways that are usable by those aircraft. The information for restricted taxiways is easily found. The pilots can set the park brake and look for the reason. They can query ATC as well.

[@TheYottaTube]

A7-BFH

[@ashokathegreat4534]

Flying planes is very different than riding goats and camels

[@AdamChase87]

This is the same area the United 787-9 hit a light pole last year

[@NealB123]

That was just sad on so many levels.

[@MSRTA_Productions]

Just another day in Chicago...

[@daverudnick2153]

Except the pilots won't be shot until they return to Qatar.

[@demacherius1]

A bit of Duck Tape and it will be just as new 🤣

[@russell2952]

Nothing a little speed tape can't fix

[@richparker7778]

That's going to leave a mark.

[@LJ-gn2un]

A little speed-tape and she's good to go! 👍

[@thetalesofdaneandco]

"Someone get me a barrel of JB Weld and 3 feet of aluminum sheet!"

[@msknich0le]

😀 Let us know when you’re flying on that plane with the taped wing.

[@LJ-gn2un]

@@msknich0le I've put a many a piece of speed-tape on 'em! 😂

[@derrickleung8014]

That is gonna be a pricy bill.

[@johno9507]

This is what speed tape is made for. 😏

[@Tylerxy]

If that was ITA Airways, they would have just said "Ciao!"

[@The-Rose-and-the-Cross]

I wonder what they said to each other next.

[@hamentaschen]

That'll buff right out.

[@joseenricovillacorte7670]

That's the end of the ground controller 🤣 big messed up and a slap on his record.

[@jamesrau100]

That should buff right out! 😀

[@bd5289]

Um...Tower: I'm gonna need you to take down a number, possible pole incursion, and also, our insurance company is gonna want a word

[@respectbossmon]

And I thought the layovers there were tough! ;p

[@jonathanbott87]

That plane is getting an extended layover...

[@serpentrouge3]

They walked it off, and continued flying soon after

[@zachthomas7810]

JetBlue a320 returned to Fort Lauderdale 8/11 at approximately 9:10 am EDT. Could you make a video on that?

[@JulianShagworthy]

Well, if he was tracking the centreline, was instructed to use that taxiway, and it wasn't prohibited on the company charts, the pilot will be out of jail on this one.

[@vaporized1000]

Is ATC at all on the hook? Or is it up to the pilot to accept a taxi clearance that gives them clearance on their given aircraft

[@smncrowe]

always falls on the captain

[@terrytruslove1383]

@@smncrowe I thought it was down to the ground control on this one but ok I could be wrong

[@yorickdewid]

You're supposed to follow all ATC instructions unless you're unable to comply for some reason. The captain bears all responsibility

[@smncrowe]

@@terrytruslove1383 afraid not, captain is legally responsible the moment the aircraft starts moving

[@X50505]

@@smncrowe Law states the PIC is legally responsible for the aircraft because obviously someone has to be, but that doesn't mean blame automatically gets assigned to the PIC. In this situation it's perfectly reasonable to assume that the ground controller had far better knowledge of the taxiway limitations and was negliglent in his instructions. Yes, some blame resides with the PIC for not checking, but complacency sets in and he trusted the ground controller wouldn't be wreckless in giving an instruction. In the end both of them bear responsibility.

[@zulu5282]

Always take into account wing sweep.

[@jaeha-min3283]

Hey do you have the atc recording of the Aermexico that blew its tire the day after that happened at Ohare? It caused all the departures to go north lmao

[@MABeltran86]

Qatar happen Friday night. Aeromexico happen Monday afternoon.

[@deakhanani]

Yes, yesssss, YES!!!!

[@RR-zq3mk]

Isn’t this the same airline that’s very picky with their pilot selections only wanting the best and brightest …………………………………………………………..

[@AguadillaCGN]

who is at fault, only the pilot or partly the atc as well (for insurance etc)

[@glyndavies2828]

Who is responsible for this? ATC? Pilots? Both? Someone else?

[@beyondinsanitybr]

My guess is both. ATC for telling them the wrong route and Pilots for not seeing the pole and that it wouldn't fit. Weather was clear and airport was not that busy.

[@glyndavies2828]

@@beyondinsanitybr It must be really hard to judge that for pilots

[@beyondinsanitybr]

@@glyndavies2828 I saw a simulation on another channel, didn't seem that much hard to tell it was quite narrow for that size plane.

[@publicmail2]

How many Polish people are walking around taxiways?

[@EddieLeeFunn]

Me: "What a jerk! Man, he doesn't even know that 'Polish people' are referred to as po... oh, okay... well played, sir... well played, indeed!"

[@the3rdid485]

Holy mother of repair bills, delayed passengers/crew, and logistic nightmare.

[@MABeltran86]

What passengers. Unless you talking about the freight. Cause it’s a cargo plane

[@the3rdid485]

@@MABeltran86 lol oh yeah it certainly is. I didn't look at the pictures close enough. Well I guess take the passenger part out haha. That makes this a little easier and cheaper too.

[@EdOeuna]

But imagine the s-storm now with that freight not being taken and the knock on effect to their freight operations with a missing aircraft.

[@peterjackson2666]

This needs to be covered by one of those KZbin channels run by pilots.

[@The-Rose-and-the-Cross]

Kelsey just did

[@DevinRostron]

Curious who would be liable for that?

[@1ytcommenter]

if the pilot had the current map material, he. otherwise the controller i would say.

[@irgtk]

Well that sucks. I think the Airport should pick up 95% of the tab on that one. The way insurance works you have to pay 5% for just being there!

[@arnoldsherrill2585]

I'm trying to figure out how you would route an aircraft into an area that is normally used for deicing when it's not cold?

[@mlehky]

It’s used as a holding area when gates are full or during delays.

[@arnoldsherrill2585]

@@mlehky thanks for the update and the information. This could have gone bad in so many ways it's not funny. I'm just glad it wasn't worse

[@davidfrench5407]

After BB2, they were supposed to then take Zulu north to hold at R/W 9R. It's a way to get from the south runways to the north side of the field. Should have done KIlo to Zulu, skipped BB and BB2

[@NicolaW72]

@@davidfrench5407 Yes - but it´s an irritating runway design and difficult to operate for all who´re not familiar with it.

[@handlebullshit]

Where's my roll of speed tape?

[@CMDRFandragon]

The pole was hungry and it just wanted to sample some middle eastern food

[@IffyOspreyGamingYT]

Don't leave us hanging, what was the rest of the conversation?!

[@TeemarkConvair]

yeah, i think they did...

[@Rhaman68]

The question is very loud: why is there a light pole close to taxiways?

[@Tker1970]

It was much easier to see the damage because of the overhead illumination.

[@AudieHolland]

@@Tker1970 I remember a cover from Dutch 'Donald Duck' weekly. It showed Donald on the ice, having collided with a small pole that had a sign on it: Warning! Pole. With warning sign.

[@cfinstr]

You break it you buy it.

[@leezinke4351]

Well That not good!

[@hack1n8r]

Well, I 100% blame the Ground controller for this incident. They know their airport the best, and know which taxiways have restrictions, as well as the largest aircraft allowed for each -- that's part of their training. Additionally, they will have the most recent airport & taxiway construction & maintenance information -- which is not always included in the NOTAMs or on the newest plates. This is an expensive mistake, and since it was the controller who authorized the route, he will be removed from the line, reprimanded, receive additional training, and finally return to the line under supervision.

[@mlehky]

Why blame the controller, the taxiway charts show no 777 wing span restriction at that location and the bays there are specifically indicated as wide body capable. There is nothing I can find published to indicate the cleared taxi route would be a problem. This is going to become a legal blame fest.

[@usaswimmer1020]

@@mlehky Maybe they just updated it. But looking at the Jepp taxi diagram for KORD it has a note saying “Taxiway BB2 closes to aircraft with wingspan greater than 188’ (36m)”

[@usaswimmer1020]

@@mlehky just double checked again the Jepp plate had an Eff date of the 14th of July so looks like it was already on there prior to this

[@pelegcohen557]

The controller is partially at fault here no doubt, but at the end of the day the pilots are the ones in the cockpit and responsible for the airplane. Im positive there is a taxiway restriction chart available to them somewhere that they could’ve checked. Also, I know it’s a bit hypocritical of me to say after this but aviation is not about placing fault or blame on any one party, it’s about learning from mistakes and making sure they don’t happen again

[@mlehky]

@@usaswimmer1020 good catch….I looked at that same jepp chart and did not spot that little note. Although FAA facilities don’t use jepp and I don’t see the same note on the government chart.

[@oldRighty1]

Did anyone check if the pole is OK?

[@tebelshaw9486]

Yeah, the Pole is recovering nicely, but the Russian they hit with the left wing is pretty badly beat up.

[@turbofanlover]

Whoopsy daisy. ;)

[@Boss_Tanaka]

It s not a big deal, l looked carefully at the picture of the mishap and to be honest the pole looks ok

[@tebelshaw9486]

That Pole really had no business being out on the tarmac like that.

[@Boss_Tanaka]

@@tebelshaw9486 Possible pole deviation

[@svarshavchik]

Eh, that'll buff out.

[@boltvanderhuge8711]

No breakaway poles in airports?

[@MostafaAli-jc4yk]

did the pilots get fired?

[@douglas2lee929]

Not an aircraft mechanic, but my wild guess would be that most or all of that wing will have to come off for disassembly, inspection, rebuilding, and re-attachment. Makes sense to me there could be bent parts inside all the way to the fuselage. But I don't really know. As to cost? A lot........

[@surrealtom]

At least 6 quid and another 3 happy meals to pay for labour.

[@lukej452]

Who is gonna be getting in big trouble for this?..

[@credera]

The controller should know his airport! Unfortunately the responsibility is with the crew.

[@slantalpha]

Can I get the seat over the wing next time please?

[@othername1000]

Isn't Mr Ford a little old for an ATP?

[@MyGoogleYoutube]

Total pain in the ass when you can't see your wingtips from the cockpit.

[@OptimusSubPr1me]

Where are the widths of the taxiways indicated?

[@EdOeuna]

Usually there not indicated as the airport diagrams are such that all taxiways can take these aircraft. Any taxiways that are restricted are usually highlighted in some way. Plus entrances to these taxiways may have painted messages on the ground, eg “max span 36m”.

[@irchrisb]

Lori Lightfoot had those installed.