Vault Hunters HermitCraft: CHAOS VAULT w ETHO - Behind the scenes

Behind the scenes from the HermitCraft vault hunter series between episode 14 and 15, Chaos Vaults with Etho!
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[@eldenrose3509]

Etho what has happened to your base…what is this organization 😭

[@thiccDAMOO]

There’s a method to his madness. Or was it madness to his madness 😂

[@SickCartoon1012]

I remembered he made very complicated machine in vanilla so he could organize everything, and now we can see this madness in modded series. Makes me worried little bit

[@justinhackbarth8147]

he's not worried about building a base, or an interim storage system because its a limited time series. personally i wouldnt be able to function like that. lol

[@rizasubhiarto]

Little decorations

[@SuzyM13]

it's all shulkers too im so..... how can he find anything???? i have never been so perplexed in my life.

[@user-mf5sn5bn9x]

Iskall: there's only one thing worse than a piglin brute champion Etho: a child

[@shupakiko]

Now i want to see Pearl's reaction to Etho's base at the beginning lol. Most terrifying shulker monster i've ever seen !

[@therudecanadian8068]

She should be whitelisted on the server for one day just to follow Etho around and nag him.

[@paulelderson934]

How are his farms this neat and organized and then his storage is like this.

[@skriisi]

Flu voice etho with bunny ears and mushroom bucket is somehow incredibly cute 🥺

[@futurestorrm]

etho sounds like an addict when he’s told he can’t run vaults anymore😭 2:50

[@DaanDeWeerdt]

Remember when he had that shopping addiction on HermitCraft when he was living with Iskall? It's exactly like that 😂

[@Eis_]

It's not a Vault Addiction, but a Hoarding Addiction (even in DO2, apparently). I mean, look at his base. Lmao.

[@paulelderson934]

He really knows how to play that part convincingly

[@sparkoflife5720]

I like Etho's idea of the endless vault, maybe have a challenge mode where you start with maybe some default diamond gear, and each hallway has a little side room with a few key workstations like an identification stand, jewel applicator, a few chests etc, theres no timer on the vault, and you basically have to build a gear set on the fly as you go. As for the objective, thats kinda still up in the air, maybe just how far you can go and you get rewarded for it.

[@brandon9172]

Would be good as a world type.

[@BlahCraft1]

I think Etho has a shulker monster problem...

[@ldyvaporeon9944]

Too bad Pearl isn't playing in this series

[@astrogamer927]

It'd be interesting if chaos vaults also mixed the objectives. Like you need 2 obelisks, 1/3 bar of elixer, and 3 red scrolls. Then of course you'd need to consume a lodestone, turn in the scav, and find the exit. Bonus if you added cakes too and made you need a crake aswell.

[@TyroRNG]

Sound like a pain in the ass to program but would be funny

[@alyssagabriel23]

Etho's adventure idea sounds like Skull Cavern in Stardew Valley. Doesn't have an end floor level, so the point of it is to mine your way down as far as you can go and get as much loot as you can, but the monsters are a lot more difficult than in the regular mine in town.

[@tortle1055]

I was thinking it sounded a bit like endless cake vaults

[@Eis_]

DevSkall did discuss this before, but apparently because of how Minecraft works, having Y-levels introduces a lot of issues with lag; especially with procedural generation. Maybe if it was just a map or building, similar to how Decked Out is, it could work.

[@Eis_]

This is exactly why Vault Hunter's Vaults look flat-ish.

[@davidmcdonnel4831]

Sounds like the pit of 100 trials in Paper Mario TTYD

[@kinkeen]

I like how Iskall casually mentions you can craft chaos theme augments like most people know that…

[@FleetinDream]

A lot of the modpack is just undocumented features :/ I wish they'd flesh out the modpack for an update rather than just making more drastic changes.

[@justcallmeness]

The wiki is an absolute mess. It needs so much TLC. Very hard to find updates on anything in the pack that isn't obvious

[@terror_nightmare9308]

@@justcallmeness you can ask in the discord, but i agree that there's no better way to find informations

[@mrtoast244]

It's a VOD though so he isn't explaining things

[@mrtoast244]

@@justcallmeness the website isn't really a wiki rn, more of a tool for planning your builds and gameplay out of game. It's got a lot of useful features, like info on all the skills, gear and mods but it definitely needs more to be considered a wiki, like a section that explains the basic features and terms. Rn it's really only useful to someone who already knows what all the technical stuff means. Though the in game quests do a good job teaching you about the general features, like catalysts and gear etc, then most of the game can be worked out with these as a starting point. Personally, I don't like hand holding for things that you can work out on your own, like picking the optimal jewels for your build or maximising your vaults so I would be fine if the website stayed like that. I also like having random undocumented features because it feels like you're discovering fun little non essential things while you're playing. You don't need to run a single chaos vault to beat the game, but it's the kind of thing you might stumble upon and then discover more about after inquiring with the community or watching a few playthroughs. Really the best way to learn Vault Hunters is to play it and then search terms that aren't immediately obvious, since there's usually a reddit post asking the same thing. Like, it's clear that mining speed increases mining speed, but stuff like "copiously" or "lucky hit" are things that I needed to search for answers to out of game.

[@therudecanadian8068]

These vods have cemented the fact that we need more Iskall and Etho content in other series. Maybe consider joining the Life series, Iskall?

[@vodskall85]

I’m not invited :)

[@redhairshanks9491]

@@vodskall85 It's cause you're too OP, unless false joins you'll defeat them all without trying (except maybe gem, not sure how that would go down)

[@jametrics]

​@@vodskall85I was going to comment that I agree with the OP. You say you weren't invited, but do you want to be? I don't know how these groups are formed but if you wanted to be in the series could you ask?

[@ciarangale4738]

@@jametrics probably considered impolite.

[@tylersmith1806]

@@vodskall85 that’s so sad 😢😢

[@Guzzo1028]

Hey guys. Did you know theg are redoing cake runs?😂😂😂

[@CraigBuchanan]

I can only imagine the level of chaos a VHSMP/Hermitcraft Vault Hunters crossover would be if Etho & H based together. Etho's base is giving big H S2 vibes.

[@christopherrodriguez8154]

Been playing a lot of cake vaults, but they been feeling a bit stagnant, I really wish they would get some sort of overhaul or rework. ;D

[@kolazhu3475]

Did you know I am actually re working cake vaults?

[@HrishB19]

Next update the cake vaults are getting reworked. I believe you get better rewards the more cakes you eat.

[@BuzzCaboom]

I heard of some sort of rework of some sort of vaults, i believe it was the cake vaults someone mentioned like once

[@ethanyantes5135]

Are you sure they are reworking them, I haven't heard anything about that.

[@angniumfrost5314]

I heard rumors of the cake vaults being reworked, I really hope that comes true in the next update

[@rietemal]

IDEA!!! A Chaos Crate. If you complete a chaos vault you get a special crate with loot modified by the rolled modifiers of the Vault, like more gems if you have high guilded roll, or lots of gear if you have a high ornate roll.

[@miniciominiciominicio]

I wish there had been two chaos vaults in this BTS video. Just the one seems a bit short :( Thanks for all the content, Iskall!! You are keeping us well fed

[@skikstra]

There are 2 chaos vaults in this video

[@miniciominiciominicio]

@@skikstra No idea what you're talking about? Iskall was only in one chaos vault. Maybe you got confused since it was Etho's second chaos vault.

[@skikstra]

Iskall was in the first time for a very short while, that one had 1 wild. The second one had 4 wilds, but of course, we don't talk about that first one

[@saigeyplays]

@@skikstraare you trolling us? :P I could’ve sworn iskall only ran 1 whilst Etho ran 2.

[@skikstra]

@@saigeyplays Of course, always gotta be trolling :P

[@mandyhardin-yv7yw]

I love Etho's bunny ears 😆

[@angellynette8258]

Yeah I loved the mushroom backpack he had with the ears.

[@RSB703]

at 30:00 Etho is describing Delve in POE which is super fun, id love it

[@Tippakannu]

Iskal and Etho combo is so good 😆

[@Darkblade8844]

From the sounds of what Etho was talking about he wants something very similar to one of POE's core mechanics, Delve. Its a ever expanding grid that you pick a poi and follow a little cart that takes you there and when you get there you have to do a challenge (Fight mobs) and you get predetermined rewards. You can choose to go sideways (difficulty stays the same) or go down (Mobs get harder, better loot) but the way they balance it with the rest of the game is to run it you need to power the cart with something that can only be found in the normal endgame mechanic, maps. would be very cool to see something like that where you get a item from normal vaults and then you can do a like deep dive vault that you expend the items you get to go deeper (kind of like the gods but maybe less rewarding but easier to do). Could also be cool as like a secondary game time when you make a world (Like skyblock) that you can choose and the whole world is just a vault that you need to keep diving deeper and deeper into.

[@sighmon5640]

etho's base is such a massive chestmonster! amazing etho, outstanding

[@joeych33se79]

I just got into this community and I love it so much! Hope you all have a amazing day!

[@Gojibeere99]

Something I really like about watching vh is that I can tell by the vault level at which point in the play through they roughly are... That they've been playing in this world for a while. Something I can't immediately see in vanilla because the enchanting level can go back (to zero) again. I like that

[@rupayanbiswas3111]

19:48 some might even say etho's base is not in "living" condition 😅😅

[@Nashtoise5]

As far as the adventure vault goes it could be an endless vault with no timer but it doesn’t offer xp gain and every room has more mobs in it and more chest’s a little bit each time you can’t move on to the next room until you beat all the mobs. It could be what a plunderers pearl turns a crystal in to

[@The_Lelouch]

So what I’ve learned is vault hunters has a ton of different things like monolith vaults those boss pillar vaults cake vault chaos vaults elixir vaults scavenger vaults then all the themes like nether cave pirate so many others there is a ton of variety with the vaults

[@The_Lelouch]

Oh and the one vaults you can make yourself

[@loading4439]

I would love to see a sort of "maze" vault, where it is a sort of square of rooms, but some "hallways" (the tunnel between rooms) are blocked off. At the end of the maze, there would be some sort of ending altar or portal or something of the like, and maybe some chests. In this sort of vault, it encourages you to go to the left and right more, instead of just straight ahead. I think it would be a fun addition, and would make people have to remember more where they are. It would make it a more intense decision when you have to decidd whether to turn back to the original portal, or to continue and try to find the end. I would love to see this! Also, love these unedited videos! Keep it up!

[@iceneko9170]

that sounds stressful af.

[@crazystupidbean]

kinda how cake vaults work

[@dauraktv]

Oh my goodness Etho! Your base is an absolute mess lol 😂❤

[@evaa9810]

So glad that this mod pack became a thing with the hermits, can't believe I've gone so long not knowing how amazing vault hunters is!!! I really like watching these BTS videos!! Such a great job iskall!!

[@atariischaotic]

Honestly Etho’s base is great to deter people from taking stuff cause they can’t find it (not that people steal in this smp)

[@RTheViking]

How can Etho live in that Chaos

[@tijsvandenberk5392]

You should so give Etho a vault doll

[@mitochondriaisthepowerhous6258]

etho's base has a minor shulker monster problem...

[@Inigma127]

oh man Iskall bringing up peoples feelings on dungeons, it took me until level 55 to get a dungeon that wasnt impossible or challenging, i found dungeons deeply frustrating for just that alone. now im getting a reasonable spread of difficulties and its better, but that first bit of "luck" was really something.

[@anthonystelmasczuk581]

Building on Ethos idea for a new vault, maybe add time based on kills or looting.

[@joeys2234]

Etho's infinite vault idea sounds kinda like Angband, a classic roguelike where you can grind on any floor infinite times and every floor you go down gets harder. There's also a surface town for restocking etc. The vault hunters system seems like the true pinnacle of a roguelike dungeon in Minecraft. Of course on a long-term server it wouldn't really make sense, but maybe as a side-mode without any out-of-vault Minecraft stuff going on at all, permanently unlocking some kind of transmogs for hitting certain milestones without dying?

[@AppaTheBizon1228]

9:33 the chaos focus experience x)

[@tigertree9894]

I liked ethos idea And i have my own: A vault with no objectives just loot as much as u can and the more u loot the time will move slower but also the mobs get faster and stronger u will leave only when the time is up but if u die to mobs u loose everything and no restoration

[@vogelvrouw]

That endless adventure mode sounds super cool, you could also make it work as a different world type, so its basically a rogue like, you keep going in endless vaults, try to get as far as you can but maybe theres some way to end it and escape? Then you gear up with all your new loot and go in again

[@passablebard3715]

etho's idea is pretty cool if it's it's own vault. Instead of getting harder as it goes down, just do it in rings around the entrance, the further out from the entrance the harder the room

[@joshellis1932]

For the "Adventure Dungeon", you could do something similar to a cake vault. But instead of finding the cake, you have to defeat all the mobs to move into the next room. And just like the cake vaults, they would get harder but with better loot. Take out the timer and you could put an exit every 10 rooms. That way the people know where the exit is, but they have to weigh the decisions. Do I keep going to find better stuff and risk dying, or do I go back and exit now. Just a thought 🤷‍♂️😅

[@Locked955]

An “adventure/dungeon” is where in many games. there is no time limit and you have (often) 3 doors to pick from (like a vault) when you pick a door you get a random room with either a spot to heal, a place to loot, or a place to fight. As you progress forward in the adventure it gets harder in difficulty sometimes facing bosses as milestones.

[@corey41837]

Etho vault idea is basically cake vault with no time. But maybe clear out % of room instead of find cake

[@foryouphilanything]

love the behind the scenes stuff so much, these are so much fun!!

[@freezeman5625]

For the dungeon depth vault etho was talking about - you could make a separate mode when u live in the dungeon, and progressing north a room would give you a room from the next vault level up while east and west would be the same level - example You start in the first room - it spawns a room as if u used a lv 1 crystal, you go north it spawns in as a room from a level 2 crystal . You go east or west and it is level 2 rooms. This could be run like you have 1 life and you see how far u can progress in this endless vault. One could travel EW (east west) a lot to build up gear or modded items ect or you could spam north and rush . For the problem or base set up ( as if you were to not rush north you would be moving base a lot) you could have it so that the starting room is ur base ans u can place all your stuff there and every 5 rooms north u progress it teleports forward replacing the 4th room

[@paarkings2455]

Early in the video the portal iskall made looks like a turtle

[@wanderingrebelinvestigatio2071]

When Ethan when you are talking about doing a vault where you can see how far you can get it basically sounds like he's asking if you're ever going to put infinite dungeons into the game where people can enter it go as far as possible and maybe be able to go back into the same place to continue going further basically adding dungeons into vault hunters.

[@quilavabucket]

the adventure vaults a cool idea, maybe you could have a system where you build vaults on the ground and jump down into them and then the ending goal of each vault was to find the next level “down”, so you dont actually have to change y level and the vault is a standard compass style exploration layout, but it feels like youre going deeper. and maybe you can custom build a vault? like you can do custom crystals for each level and once you reach X amount of levels (say 64 for symmetry) other players can enter the vault you built and each level of the vault is still generated normally, but the vault types/modifiers are the same as the original build. and maybe theres not regular loot so it doesnt just become a grind loop, but it gives medals or trinket chance or something if you beat them or just sould shards? obvi not super balanced but its kinda fun to consider what you could do with that. i can see why youre so excited about that cake update lol

[@e3.14c4]

theory crafting a -word- term for people who feel 'robbed' (or just hoard/don't like losing) of their loot. well a phrase actually; Cat Loot. term to use when a system pushes forward that idea would be Cat Loot. Completion crates, because they cannot be taken away, only given, is Cat Loot. Losing out on your spirit buyback because you didn't have enough gold would *not* be Cat Loot. Hearing the ideas explained that were talked about in this video sort of made me realize how much I value Cat Loot in other games (like Borderlands 2 for example, having no way to lose anything unless you level up too fast or progress hastily, for example.). I also realized how much it can actually hinder not just my perspective on the game, but it limits the potential things that can done with it too. Just gotta figure out an idea to communicate in a way that tricks the mind out of Cat Loot with something else, like a laser pointer (direct value above the loot in terms of a piece of communication; a weird example would be the vault gods.. they give you points to use in an external thing, so that security is in itself Cat Loot, BUT, it destroys the in vault Cat Looting frame of mind by allowing time and other parts of the vault to be traded in exchange for the vault god reputation chances.). I will be simmering on this idea more, but the ability to tell the player it's okay to miss out on your Cat Loot seems like it might help if I can make a proof of concept.

[@SnyperMK2000JclL]

"And now it feels bad getting a monolith crate" Chaos Vaults should give a Chaos Crate regardless of the objective type, with some very slight loot tweaks based on the modifiers for that vault. Like of you get 7x ornate then the crate would have a bit more high value ornate loot than the say living that was only 1x that run. That could be interesting as well as giving an air of excitement seeing great modifies and knowing the crate could be absolutely dynamite! Side note about monolith vaults in general, I say keep them as a low value crate UNTIL level 50 when Guardian Vaults become a thing. Make them all equal in value after 50 or 60, I say thing because it really sucks to bust my hump to get an 8 monolith objective done and get some loot all while knowing my inevitable reward is going to be crap... especially after having a really bad and really hard to farm crystal recipe... that stings a bit and really shouldn't later on when everything hits super hard regardless of objective type.

[@mandyhardin-yv7yw]

Love all the Vault episodes thank you Iskall ❤🎉❤

[@LexWijker]

So cool to listen to the designs behind vault hunters.

[@KaimArgonarEyyyy]

Had to double check the level of this episode from the new main channel one in case I had to watch this first. I did. good grief keeping up is a pain now

[@mistwraithstormblessed1529]

Soul Flame ones sound awesome!

[@TyroRNG]

So that was what he meant with one maybe two chaos vaults.

[@Vulcan.]

SOMEBODY CALL THE CLEANING LADY!!!!!!

[@johnveazey2957]

Time to upgrade the bammmboom stick

[@danielstacey200]

love the soul flame idea!

[@dpavey6720]

Sounds like Etho is describing For The King Hildebrant’s Cellar. Is just a crawl to see how many floors you can clear

[@Crystal-fy7ml]

From the conversation at 32 mins about progressive difficulty, what about a vault that has a timer (and one lane) and the idea is that the difficulty gets progressively higher for each room you enter and the idea is that you want to be the one that gets the deepest into the vault. The vault ends when the time runs out, you cant use kiwis or anything. You just flex your strength (and loot) by getting the furthest into the dungeon

[@remoteacess]

Talking about frogs, Xisuma has frog in his vault scrap chest.

[@angelwitch25]

I'm sooooo glad Pearl can't see Etho's base lol

[@zacaryhellings9507]

A cool idea for chaos vaults is that you are givin 2 goals like mayby you have to fill half a bar of elixa and got to find 4 monoliths of course its completly random which 2 are combined

[@jaredtomko4463]

A rogue-like vault hunters would be so cool

[@popsters_]

etho really needs a storage system haha

[@pyromd69]

Etho really needs a computer system that's a serious Shulker monster

[@hollowumbreon6641]

One thing i always wonder with etho is 1. Will he ever play terrafirma craft again... 2.how he can handle having such a big brain...

[@seanrath6043]

Love the parkouring you do haha😂😂😂

[@calebjamison9838]

Hello! I just saw the portion of the video talking about the adventure mode. But it sounded similar to a tower trials minigame from idle games. Where each level is somewhat more difficult than the last but they’re hard coded so everyone gets the same floor 1, 2 and 50 etc. this could be an exciting mode that is relatively easy and maybe gives specific loot from each floor that is meant to correspond with where you are in the game. And maybe each vault level will unlock more floors that you can complete.

[@calebjamison9838]

However by the time you’re on floor 100 or 200 endgame the floors are some of the hardest things in the game and you get to work with other people on strategies to beat each floor.

[@e3.14c4]

hoooooooly shimmy shankers dude why does ethbro have so many fricken shulker boxes that looks mad 👀

[@FIRE-fs8xz]

Etho's chest monster though

[@ItsDSG]

It's chaos time ! 💚

[@BlueSodaPop_]

Ive been sick over the last week and still in a lot of pain rn, so all this Iskall content has been such a blessing in distracting me. Iskall is just delightful, honestly.

[@Squerazolic]

Best room in chaos vaults is dig site

[@St1nk3yFing3r]

Did u guys know Iskall is changing cake vaults?

[@adamiahr8896]

!! I don't know if something like this already exists since I don't play VH but I really do enjoy watching gameplay !! ( I didn't watch the whole video btw ) #idea for a vault or smth Make a "defend the vault" vault, You spawn in a normal vault room and make a block or the player the point of interest for the mobs and the player has to defeat all the mobs ( now that I think of it, kind of like an illager raid). After the player defeats all the mobs he gets rewards and goes onto the next room. An alternative would be a big vault room and the player would have to survive 25 min or idk how much and just kill mobs and the more mobs he kills the more loot he gains ( at the end)and the more he stays in the vault the harder to kill or the stronger the mobs become. #Another idea "Arena" vault in which you spawn in like a colosseum or in a room, and you just have to fight mobs. I don't know how long ( in time) the vault should be but every like 5-7 minutes, the difficulty of the mobs gets higher. I didn't really put an effort into these ideas like how they should actually work, but I figure that if anyone reads this and has a better idea, then they can add to this. !! I would love for people to give feedback saying how bad or good this idea is !!

[@Adam-qo7ll]

Another hot from vodskallMAN

[@voikalternos]

I miss season 2 so much if I get the PC to play I'd absolutely run chaos vault only or at least chaos theme for every crystal

[@Plaufin]

Etho has become the mad hatter.

[@jordanyoung706]

🎶🎵This is the Vault that never ends...

[@ismaelrivera1615]

That infinite dungeon sound very familiar to delve league in poe

[@losparanoia190]

Saw this at 42 seconds!!

[@blacktuxwidow4318]

I AM GOING TO LOVE SOULFLAME

[@LuhDenDen]

Why does etho have so many shulkers 💀

[@teacal1464]

If grian played the server would be down due to the chest monster

[@plantcraftie4141]

Nooo living chests are by far the prettiest

[@jebinite]

Chaos vaults are like a box of chocolates…

[@Epicfailman666]

wait is that Ethos base now???? what did i miss lol, its such a huge chaotic mess XD. Last time i saw it i think was in the actual series, i should watch the streams but streams dont keep my attention long

[@tahmkench8709]

i really want to know what happen at etho's base so many shulker we need an update with ethos's base

[@Neanderstaal]

Does anyone know if there’ll be any changes to cake vaults?

[@krystalmcknight1834]

I have been wondering the same thing :D

[@yamiluna6978]

Did Etho and Iskall not notice the Omega focus in the shulker at 2:33?

[@sauljans1422]

Maybe u can make the adventure idea of etho instead of how lower u go how harder it is how far u go to the right or left how harder it gets

[@diegomelgar5866]

The universe put them in a different place with different people with a small age difference but Minecraft made these two become brothers

[@generalgrievous5419]

great vid!

[@jthenry97]

Ooooh, this is awkward!! 😂😂 Just noticed I wasn't subbedskall Am now!

[@lucasreingard5434]

I have been wondering for a very long time and really want to know. Is it possible to get 2 legendary roles on armour or sword???

[@Bluebird_YT]

Did you know you are redoing cake vaults?

[@carsonmiller7815]

Anyone else hear ethos endless vault idea and think of sword art online??

[@erta-ng7mf]

#vodskallplaque

[@user-qf2bp7tb9q]

I like ethos idea a lot o think it would be fun if you can find a way for it to not be laggy