Vault Hunters Hermitcraft: FIRST BRAZIERS WITH HERMITS! - Behind the scenes

Behind the scenes from the HermitCraft vault hunter series between episode 19 and 20 - NEW BRAZIER TEST with Stress and False!
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[@phtevenstevin4625]

The Looter's Dream turned into a Looter's Nightmare.

[@MrMorphious95]

you should turn all your relic booster packs to soul dust to fully commit to the no relics

[@downpipe9935]

and the unidentified relics aswell

[@Arcella1981]

im going to be really sad if they just take the relics out and have no way to make more time with statues, each update he seems to be taking out all the actual fun rng stuff and leaving the annoying stuff in xD ( like the armor rng stat wize ) like i love my mystery boxes, and for the most part those are out of the game, and i love the booster packs and i am hearing soon those will be out of the game

[@sael1337]

@@downpipe9935 they dont have a soul value, but he could open them and dust any relic fragments he gets.

[@Bob_Smith19]

I’m very close to not playing the pack anymore. If he removes relics or crafting cake seals I’m done. I realize it’s his game but he ignored the fact that people play in single player world and not everyone has hours a day to play the game. Very few care about replayability which he focuses on constantly. .

[@deimon451]

You're always free to cheat back those items. It's singleplayer,@@Bob_Smith19 , no one will care

[@enetowatch]

Iskall to girls = man, guys Iskall to boys = good sir

[@katiemiller8313]

I was always a little sad that iskall got rid of "dudes" from his "see you in the next episode." However, I figured he maybe did it to be more gender inclusive. Though, based on the last few streams, that mystery still remains open... 😂

[@Game_Blox9999]

I literally say “Greetings good sir” when I enter somebody’s livestream or Discord server!

[@nielskeller1734]

Easter Egg Idea: You can cook any meat on lit braziers like on camp fires and it turns into vault steak when cooked :D Not crazy powerful but a fun mechanic

[@elderfrost9892]

I love seeing your debugging process lol, both of those bugs were fun to see it is a little bit sad to see no ore modifiers for the braziers, but I understand that it's pretty hard to add ores after the vault has generated

[@ladiesman4454]

Could always add a base copiously percentage

[@elderfrost9892]

@@ladiesman4454 I mean you can, but unless they make copiously go over 100 too it doesn't do anything for you at higher levels

[@ladiesman4454]

Fair enough. With that change coming in the future though it would make sense. I believe he mentioned it in a vod a bit ago along with the trap disarm change.

[@DannySnowPaw]

@@elderfrost9892 That is a thing he said that they were gonna do so i think the extra cope would be really good as a modifier

[@achakzai4758]

You know what will be funny make this bug into a feature where your tools that have trap disarm are reversed so you're either forced to open a chest or get trapped it could be like that troll vaults and it would be just funny when people realize there stuck with this😂 Let's just get some chaos into the vault.

[@AlastorFan5900]

a chance for that to happen in chaos vaults is actually a pretty good idea. i imagine that there would be a very small chance that one of the chaos modifiers is "anti-trapblock" or something, that uses trap disarm value as chance to have it trapped.

[@achakzai4758]

@@AlastorFan5900 yeah that's what im takling about

[@Android-ge7hp]

That item that voids the vault junk (random blocks and such) would benefit from the import feature. That way the wiki could have a list of all of the most likely to be voided blocks, you copy then paste right into the void machine. Removes how much of a chore it is.

[@Android-ge7hp]

Kind of like the feature to import someone else’s abilities

[@Bob_Smith19]

The Wiki is far out of date. It’s for the previous version, so an entirely different t game and 13 updates ago 😂

[@iossaiken]

He tries to flex his trinkets on the other hermits just to void the fact Etho got 3 Treasure Chests MORE than him...

[@Bob_Smith19]

It’s hilarious. I found two treasure scrolls in my RS system the other day. Didn’t know I had them 😂

[@batt3ryac1d]

​@@Bob_Smith19I've found 5 so far 😅

[@morrisstanforth3278]

with the different vault modifiers that do the same thing but more (e.g. 10% item rarity and 25% item rarity), i think it would be more clear if they were instead the same modifier but different amounts of it, (e.g. 2 stacks of 5% item rarity and 5 stacks of 5% item rarity) It would reduce the jargon needed to understand the modifiers at a glance, as well as having large stacks in a brazier vault would probably feel better from an emotional perspective; having 10 stacks of 5% rarity feels a lot better seeing the double digit multiplier in the icons rather than having loads of different icons that essentially mean the same thing at lower multipliers. I also think it would clear up the GUI at the bottom right because currently new pickups get partially obscured by the vault modifiers and fewer different modifiers would mean fewer icons and therefore make it more difficult to reach the number of modifiers needed to cover the new pickups.

[@plantcraftie4141]

nah, finding a 30% rarity is waaay more exciting than finding a 5% rarity. Last one is still nice tho. But if all would be 10% rarity, it wouldn't be exited to find any of those. You don't need to know the total of rarity you have anyways. So you don't have to do the math;

[@killerbee.13]

@@plantcraftie4141 I think OP is saying that instead of 1x 30% rarity, you'd get a single brazier with 6x 5% rarity

[@morrisstanforth3278]

​@@plantcraftie4141I don't mean you only find 5% rarity, you would find 6 stacks of 5% rarity all in one go, which to me looks a lot better on the gui than 1 stack of 30% or even 1 stack of 30% and 1 stack of 10%. This isn't about showing the player current item rarity more clearly, it is about trying to make runs with loads of really good modifiers feel crazy good by having large numbers on screen rather than 3 sets of smaller numbers

[@plantcraftie4141]

@@morrisstanforth3278 Nah I don't agree. For me 6 stacks looks chaotic, 30% look exciting

[@morrisstanforth3278]

@@plantcraftie4141 To actually look at the 30% you have to interrupt your gameplay, unless you have memorised all of the different names and what specific amount of vault modifier they have, rather than having a x6 on one of the icons that you can see at a glance. It is about trying to optimise the 'bigger number better' feeling and, although 6 is smaller than 30, the 6 is ever present and stacks more easily with other modifiers rather than the 30 which you only see a couple of times

[@philipstiller6386]

11:37 why did that turtle attack that slime? LOL

[@UREYourEX]

bro woke up and choose violence 😂

[@al77gaming]

If you hold your soul shard pouch and grab soul shards from your drawer, it’s a lot faster! Just trying to save your finger! Happy hunting!

[@HansMaximum]

Props to Iskall for playtesting a whole lot AND playing Vault Hunters owith the Hermits.

[@Asaseemo]

0:21 iskall has done some mining off camera guys

[@nickmosher]

I'm curious to see how balanced the brazier vault feels at the minimum level. It's all well and good to see it at level 80 but how does it scale down?

[@bcxanth7]

I really love your content Iskall, and watching the Hermits take on VH really excited me to start playing again. I had stopped playing for over a year and have been loving the all the improvements in that time. After watching Impulse run a couple of these the other day I was really looking forward to trying out these brazier vaults, but now that they have negatives every time, not just in the pillaging phase, these join the list of vault objectives that I will be ignoring and just looting. That makes Elixir vaults the only ones worth running now. You basically just made cake vaults, but with braziers instead of cakes and with more RNG. I don't know why Iskall and so many others in the VH community actively hate casual gamers like myself so much. At least if the Seal was craftable and the braziers was something you had to opt in to like cakes then it'd be fine. But instead you're forcing it on everyone. And yes, I know I could just not update, but I like all the other updates. Why should I have to miss out on the parts I like, as well as every update after that, just because you don't want casual players playing VH? I think this update has once again destroyed my interest in VH. I truly hope everyone else has fun.

[@Cursed394]

I’m definitely nowhere near this point but I do agree that some of these updates feel like they’ll just push out casual players So many of these update videos can feel like “so the people who no life the game or min max are doing too well, so we’re going to nerf it” - then anyone playing casually is just left with harder experience (which when you only get like an hour to play on the occasional evening can really impact the experience)

[@Ligands23]

You do of course get many more options for brazier bonuses the more players you have - if you run it single-player at lower levels without much Speed or Dash / without elytra flight, braziers would be much more of a 'always grab the first one you see' objective

[@plantcraftie4141]

Yeeey, the bug where you don't get your crate will be fixed! Got that one many times. Good video! Was fun

[@Masakiyomi]

Braziers could be my new favourite type of objective actually

[@vicithetenoroon]

Iskall, just to ask; could the recent server lag be related to Xisuma's maxed-out storage system of doom in the spawn chunks? Cause he had no drawers so almost everything is in his computer? Maybe if you move spawn it might get a little better?

[@ithilrae7726]

That was fun to watch also. Seeing the process of you all deciding what to take and what to not take.

[@fastandfemme]

Iskall, I've been thinking about gear rng since the bts episode on it, and wanted to share my thoughts on a way to let players reduce the amount of rng. Introduce a new Craftable modifier on gear. When re-rolling gear, it is treated as a locked modifier. In the modifier workbench, when you craft a new modifier and there's a Craftable in the same affix, the result of your craft replaces Craftable and is treated as a standard modifier (not locked, doesn't have the pickaxe and can't be crafted again for a better roll (edge case: it does get the pickaxe if it's the final affix)). Craftable appears on gear from the vaults with the same frequency as legendary rolls (and is mutually exclusive with legendaries). However, gear pieces players craft have a significantly higher chance (maybe 20% at lowest proficiency) of rolling Craftable. At higher proficiencies, the chance of rolling Craftable improves, and you could even get it multiple times (max 2 or 3). This would give players a path to control their gear. I think the limits (no legendaries, need to craft gear, rng of implicits and Craftable rolls, need to unlock higher tier rolls in dungeons) provide a good starting point to balance it. My only experience with VH and arpgs is your videos, so this might go against the philosophy of the game or have a massive flaw that I've missed, but it seemed like a good enough concept to share. Fwiw, I see rng as a good thing, but I think a system that reduces rng for a price feels like a good fit for the game.

[@fastandfemme]

Actually with chaotic foci the system described above allows players to bypass the tier restrictions on crafted modifiers. At a minimum rolls replacing Craftable would have to be exempt from chaotic re-rolls, but maybe an easier solution is just to keep them locked. You trade your ability to control the strength of a modifier for the ability to choose a specific modifier.

[@damioncreiglow8721]

Iskall: I die quite a bit i don't have any gold Me: You have more gold than I have ever gotten at one time im play through

[@josh123c]

You need a Vault Identifier for your Vault Table to work

[@martinallanhates]

💚 *there's so much content, and im loving it!* 💚

[@mmattzo]

you should make it so you cann build the portal laying down and put in the hole in the middle of pacific and just jump trough it

[@benvancura7486]

Yay I love Vault Hunters

[@TheGreatDagda0]

braizers in this reminded me of just a catalyst vault. That seems hella fun

[@EyeOfTack]

love the debug episode :D

[@strangepanthers]

I know it probably felt bad not to kill the chests but it makes for funny content lol

[@cryptictwist390]

I am sooooooooooo excited for sunday and the new update!!! LETSSSS GOOOOOO

[@robertcord3316]

Dude I CANNOT WAIT to play this new update!!!!

[@tanveerrajja7434]

Every night i am waiting for these vods, thank you so much iskall. Lots and lots of love and hugs for you❤❤

[@apersonwhomayormaynotexist9868]

Out of curiosity what time zone are you in?

[@NeroWolf42]

I'm quite hype for this objective. i really didn't like monoliths to too much because it took my focus from looting. i'd just back out when i'd get them.

[@zubinosnake3623]

The trap issue reminded me about the Gandhi "issues" in the civilization games where he would become the ruthless one on the field do to the percent of aggression going negative

[@jschang29]

This would be such a cool curse! If it was on purpose though lol.

[@GanjaCoyote]

00:08:40 Schrodinger's Artifacts lol

[@andrewjamesgrantsnider]

might be interesting if the brazier showed some indication of what item you would get if you pillaged it (maybe just an indication of rarity) so that there was an option to weigh pillaging it versus lighting it?

[@kamiza6802]

Is it possible to have the negative modifiers on the braziers (before pillaging) tied to vault difficulty? Like only on Normal+ ? For very casual players I think would be a good balance to be more like monoliths with opt-in.

[@dahyun7755]

I just finished the 9 hour vod, I thought I was finally going to sleep lol

[@thechartech]

I cannot wait for this update. Sunday pls hurry

[@TNW_POVELITEL_MIROV]

I like watching scene behind the scene

[@Zinoba_]

never thought I'd see UI looting in 2024 VH :D to think that this used to be the norm...going back for a brief moment really showed how disruptive to the gameplay it is

[@danielerdozain]

a gem that when added to tools, similar to item quantity, gives more coins when breaking coin piles??

[@apersonwhomayormaynotexist9868]

I think item quant does do that

[@katiemiller8313]

Just curious: I know the trap disarm issue was a bug to be fixed, but I was really curious if instead of 'opening the chests and removing the loot,' could you just open the chest briefly and then mine it.

[@R0Xps]

I'm genuinely curious about the piece of code that caused the trap disarm bug. Any chance that you could share it with us, Iskall?

[@techblyad]

23:00, can confirm. I am Jason

[@loszeusgaming2604]

Wouldn't it be faster iskall if you had stacked the living rock in your backpack ? 😂 Just a question

[@gamerhunter9189]

I kinda liked the bug makes it harder but you can fix it though the modifications

[@vaaarna]

so grumpy i missed the prev stream (idk is this is ftom that) , i wish there were stream vods as well as bts. always fun to watch these minecrafters

[@AevumDecessus]

he streams to twitch. You can see the vods at www.twitch.tv/iskall85/videos

[@vaaarna]

​@@josemendes3198real! youre right, i will. i prefer my vids on yt, and i was under the impression twitch vods disappear after a while (im a twitch noob :)

[@red5_skywalker]

The vods are unlisted in the playlists tab.

[@vaaarna]

@@red5_skywalker i found them !!! thank you :)))

[@scaptal]

do you guys per chance save the trap disarm in an i8? cause that would explain the 100% trapped chance with an overflow haha

[@matthewparker9276]

I would have thought they'd store it as a float.

[@JosiahBang]

Iskall casually typing at a trillion words per minute😂

[@tylercox9302]

all I can think is max out soul chance then pilage any and all onslaut

[@rosef7203]

It was insane to watch Iskall smelt a bunch of stuff for soul shards when he already had 100k soul dust/essence/powder he could have turned into soul shards

[@jophmac]

Compacting drawers let you effortlessly convert items, however they report to storage systems the total for each type that could be taken out.

[@batt3ryac1d]

Lol did the trap disarm percent overflow and reverse 😅

[@therudecanadian8068]

Hey Iskall, I was wondering if you guys could do an alternate version of sky vaults? My PC can't run world gen so I'm basically stuck on sky block, but I don't like living in the sky. Could you add a stoneblock variant?

[@bcxanth7]

Reminder that you can always disable Terralith and just run normal world gen. Modded ores would still be added to the world, but otherwise it'd be vanilla.

[@subi_rocks]

I thought first few braziers are all positive! Why there both positive and negative now?

[@kanokanick]

Because people will just quickly speedrun however many blazers they need in the first 5 min and then loot the rest of the time with no consequences, By adding a negative it makes you think about whether you want to click on it or not and explore more rooms.

[@Bob_Smith19]

@@kanokanickThat’s fine for high level for players. For casual players it sucks. He always forgets people play at lower difficulties.

[@kanokanick]

@@Bob_Smith19 then change your difficulty from normal to easy

[@aurafr3nzy633]

open modboxes!!! would be so cool to see you open 100+

[@chrisgm13]

Iskall mentioned a "Vanilla" voult hunters version. Anybody knows when it's coming out?

[@suuift]

Vanilla hermitcraft, not vault hunters

[@luizmiguel418]

He mentioned it as a plan for the summer, like around October. I think its supposed to be a vanilla version to the next edition of the modpack

[@zex123456789]

109 mod box *drools*

[@laartje24]

I like the added negatives, but it doesn't look very beginner friendly. So maybe only have smaller positives until lv 10 or so, and then add in to also have negatives?

[@luizmiguel418]

I believe he mentioned in the update video that he's swapped when objectives appear, such that Elixir would be the only objective at first and Braziers would start appearing at Lv.10

[@kfc5095]

how many do you have to pillage to complete?

[@Libraven.]

I kinda like that bug. Like it creates a downside to running trap disarm if the vault randomly rolls looters dream

[@kevinclover1875]

It's not a bug, it's a feature!

[@Mcowner1000]

Iskall, for goodness sake, put a computer on your second floor 😂

[@TheREALBOJACK]

I don't want to say Iskall is "biased", necessarily, but he _does_ constantly skew towards the "Not hard enough" end of the spectrum when it comes to testing changes. 😅 I'm not bad at the game by any means, but I think someone who's run like 10K vaults might not be the best for checking the "base player experience", you know? But that's just, like, my opinion, man.

[@CaptainBlueKaiser]

i love this series!! just one question.... is there ever gonna be any "not behind the scenes" video? XD i feel like the whole season has been behind the scenes xD

[@Max-zx4tp]

This is the vodskall channel, the actual Iskall85 channel has the edited videos of this server

[@elderfrost9892]

all the fully edited stuff is on the main channel

[@apersonwhomayormaynotexist9868]

There have been 19 episodes on his main channel that weren't behind the scenes

[@patrick1020000]

God altar collective punishment is a war crime. Either everyone should be able to contribute, or failing an altar should only affect the person who started it

[@takenpayload09]

wheres etho is he safe... is he alright lol

[@devinsuggitt7937]

Have you considered releasing your full unedited vods like when you were apart of the og vault hunters server?

[@ianverma3224]

You can find the full vods in the playlists

[@aligalad9907]

Is the negative brazier only for higher level?

[@excitingeffeciency]

Is that 100 mod boxes in your computer?

[@TruSpectrez]

How do you Drop the items from the chests so quickly? Is there a hotkey that I'm not aware of?

[@alteredkitten1925]

q drops items from inventories. Shift + q drops stacks. Hold shift + q and after a second all items you hover your cursor over will drop instantly.

[@TruSpectrez]

@@alteredkitten1925 Oh jeez... And here I was Shift + q and spamming q for each stack... all I had to do was hold for a second!?!

[@downpipe9935]

release an episode brudda, ive been waiting for days!!!

[@danehanson9890]

is there a way to not lose my world when I update to the new updates?

[@Bob_Smith19]

Yes, just update through the launcher you use. There is no reason you should lose your world.

[@apersonwhomayormaynotexist9868]

Iskall are you at all worried that people will be able to get too many good items by just doing hunter observer and just running for braziers and not like looting or anything? I feel like if they drop treasure keys and amazing items, people will just go for them, ignore mobs, and since they're not looting chests or fighting not have to worry about the debuffs?

[@alumni6955]

HALLO!

[@EgoLTR]

I feel like the pillaging is almost never worth it. Why not just loot more without adding any negative modifiers?

[@TheWeezyOfOz]

Man's been here in his videos saying people take the mick out of his English but dropping words like "multiplicative"? Those moaners don't know what "multiplicative" means.

[@QuashyZ]

Braziers could be miss interpreted:/

[@Arcella1981]

i think i would have liked the braziers alot more with no negative modifiers unless you are pillaging, because now my first initial thought is that if i get this i kind of just want to walk out of the vault to get another one ( this is just my thoughts after seeing it, i have not actually had a chance to play it myself ) but i think the braziers should not be in litterally every room but make it like 50 percent chance to be in the room and get rid of the negative unless you are pillaging

[@adonisjackburns7017]

heres your maths... 50% of 100 is 50, so 150. and then 50% of 150 is 75, so 225.

[@OnlyTheQuack]

Where do you go from 50 to 150?

[@adonisjackburns7017]

@@OnlyTheQuack 100 is your starting number... I literally said that: "50% of ONE HUNDRED is 50, so 150...."

[@bartle2234]

I hate having the negative modifiers on the braziers. It stops them from working as a replacement for monoliths. They work much better as a nice easy objective with an opt in challenge. Having negatives on pillage makes perfect sense, being the opt in challenge part of the objective. Having negatives all the way through not only forces a challenge on the more casual player base, it just makes it feel far less accessible. Scavenger is the more difficult search objective. When you make 50% of your objectives more challenging and forcing players to pick and choose simply doesn't feel good

[@Eis_]

Hallo.

[@ItsDSG]

BTS hype 💚

[@mr.dakshsharma3213]

First

[@jattdesi2284]

WHERE IS THE EPISODE SKALL85? its been 5 days since last episode 🤨

[@apersonwhomayormaynotexist9868]

He's been updating the game so a lot of work has been going into that, plus the update 13 video probably took most of his editing time

[@AlbertMoff]

Looters nightmares 😅 new moddifier

[@erinkarp]

It might be fun if the amount of braziers with negative modifiers increases as you level up? So at low level they're all good, but by your current level they all have a negative modifier