Vaush Is Unironically Evil

[@_timecop05]

Who's here after vaush exposed his "confidential" folder?

[@curtism8707]

lol I’m glad it was listed again

[@sumdood8563]

"your honor, I thought she was a goblin"

[@christopherstein2024]

@@sumdood8563 Your honor I was in goblin mode like literally HngHngHngHngHngHngHng as fast as I can

[@arturzinurov4781]

I am surprised I thought doomer had nuked his channel after the new years incident

[@alyssarichardson2544]

Reporting for duty.

[@TheAdarkerglow]

So, by Vaush's metric: It's okay to lie to be politically effective It's okay to disregard the entirety of a person's position if any of it is false or inaccurate. It is therefore okay to always disregard all of what Vaush says.

[@LocalHolehead]

Perfect politician, if you ask me.

[@bruhdabones]

Timestamp??

[@Dinofly4]

46:58

[@metaljacket8128]

Nailed it.

[@Chrismw81]

But remember, he hates bad faith arguments. But he has since admitted that all his arguments are hypothetical and meant to piss off normies. He's a very conflicted individual

[@CountDankula]

"We must secure the existence of my donations, and a future for my career." - Vaush

[@pgoogler]

Because the naivety of my fans must not perish from this Earth

[@deborahroblay4212]

lol nailed it.

[@arcarsenal1380]

Bless. Here to cope because you got rekt in a debate

[@AT-AT26]

literally anyone mentions anything bad about Vaush and you run to support it. The guy lives in your head rent free.

[@rhodimusrime6737]

Vaush came out of that debate saying he didn’t think dank was a white supremacist after it. So who lost ? 😂

[@speensro413]

This aged like fine wine

[@matthewduggan1378]

Yep

[@DayLateGamerWill]

100%

[@impatient1]

Top tier

[@doraafelfedezoofisol]

After Vaush's response? Nope...not at all

[@fin4314]

@@doraafelfedezoofisol The "I thought the sexual drawing of a child was reminiscent of a thick goblin, so it's OK" response?

[@adamwb8302]

I will give Vaush credit for one thing if nothing else, he has the perfect cadence and vocal tone for a pseudo-intellectual.

[@endtimessupportgroup5685]

That's true. And the fake baritone. I did not like this guy calling him a comedian. Vaush hates comedy. kzbin.info/www/bejne/fXmvpoaDmtajl5o

[@FlamencoTV]

YUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUP this guy gets it

[@balladofcoseypolar4711]

@@endtimessupportgroup5685 There is absolutely no reason to suspect his baritone voice is simulated.

[@2BTO]

I have outpaced Adam WB pseudo-intellectually

[@McClain3000]

@@balladofcoseypolar4711 um other than how it sounds there is footage of him talking to Destiny on stream with a different voice when he went as irishladdie. It’s just a known thing.

[@alyssarichardson2544]

I seriously can't believe he would have been 27 here. I was born mid-93 and I always assumed Vaush was 8-10 years older than me, but nope - he just likes 8-10 year olds.

[@NiskaMagnusson]

underrated comment

[@sarjocole2626]

​@@NiskaMagnussonIt really is incredible.

[@CanalPSG]

The same as I thought, only better written.

[@wastelandvagrant251]

LMFAO

[@johannespilvikukka6003]

I thought he was my age, I'm 45.

[@PrettyTonyi]

Ok now I know why Vaush only watched the "fascism" part of this video on stream. Damn this video is really revealing. I dont think anyone could argue that Vaush is an honest person.

[@SoyDuckHot]

He’s not honest, and he isn’t dishonest for honest intentions either

[@yc6018]

Callicles maybe

[@type-moonfag4413]

i mean, he literally said he doesn't care about being honest if that makes him lose so...

[@samuraiflack3880]

His objective is to WIN for socialism, not LOSE for socialism. Thus you are WRONG. This is how he literally talks by the way.

[@randomwhittyname41]

But people will argue that Vaush is an honest person And those people are /also/ dishonest. The real question, is do -they- even know they are being dishonest?

[@SirAxelGrimnir703]

You are totally fucking vindicated dude holy shit. Everything.

[@Th3C0urtJ35t3r]

I was looking for this video earlier and I couldn't find it at all

[@jamesmcdonnell2455]

​@Th3C0urtJ35t3r that's because Doomer is a coward and removed it (I assume he must have simply privated it) ShortFatOtaku had it mirrored on his channel though.

[@Jamblesquack]

I’ve always seen how creepy he is. Hate vaush and his fans.

[@Th3C0urtJ35t3r]

@@jamesmcdonnell2455 Good to know thanks for letting me know.

[@Friendylalanine-98]

How? This video has literally nothing to do with Vaush being a p*do. It's just a poorly researched smear campaign for destiny fans lol. Other people have been documenting his creep behavior for years.

[@smtandearthboundsuck8400]

Vaush is the stereotype of a Redditor, no exaggeration

[@David-g6]

Reddit is the epitome of strawman-ing

[@iWhisperASMR]

No one debates that. Not even vaush. Also he has a beard and ponytail. Fight me.😂

[@iWhisperASMR]

​@@David-g6reddit is literally the most viewed website. So that's like saying it's the most average. Reddit is the most website of all time.

[@tempejkl]

@@iWhisperASMRAnd the most active city on Reddit is a small town in the United States which just happens to have a CIA base. Reddit is a psyop, just like Wikipedia (wikipedia’s co-founder revealed that the CIA has been editing wikipedia for a decade)

[@maestro9765]

@@iWhisperASMR Vaush fans coping as usual

[@Pandamonium626]

It's uncanny how almost all of Vaush's critiques of others are really just projections of his own behavior.

[@RequiemOfAnguish]

Sociopathy.. Like most of the leaders on the left...

[@insensitive919]

I know right?!

[@noelh9842]

and his go to ad hominem is about someone being a fat, soyboy sweatlord. If that isn't projection, I don't know what is.

[@dynamicflashy]

So true.

[@HenriFaust]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reaction_formation

[@wiptide]

It always bugged me how Vaush says he’s willing to kill those who disagree with him and not get cancelled for saying that. Glad someone put the spotlight on it.

[@benjamintherogue2421]

@@Brobese Watch it.

[@marvelfannumber1]

I like how I called him out on this several years ago, back when he was still irishladdie and now finally, almost half a decade later people finally took note. I guess it is true that once something is on the internet, it will never go away, but people can forget about it for a while.

[@TomFranklinX]

@@morgancody6752 Do you know why political violence is banned? Its prohibition rests on one axiom: The democratic process is superior to the rule of force. As long as the democratic process exists, political violence is banned; when it ceases to exist, that is when revolution becomes justified.

[@ryan.1990]

The Left are everything they accuse their enemies of being

[@ryan.1990]

@@TomFranklinX take your meds

[@gaem9625]

oh how it aged like a four million year old fine wine

[@handlebecauseihaveto]

A nice chardonneigh, if you will 🐴

[@TheUndeniablyPowerfulH]

very nice pun, @handlebecauseihaveto

[@KalashVodka175]

What happened recently that sparked sudden interest? I'm out of the loop genuinely, I always knew vaush was a POS but did something happen recently that put him in the spotlight?

[@pacevy3798]

@@KalashVodka175 aint gonna sugar coat it, he had loli corn on his pc, like multiple different images sorted typa shit

[@KalashVodka175]

@@pacevy3798 unironically doesn't surprise me that vaush is like that he did make a lot of comments still that's so fucked up bro, this "man" is pure evil

[@Baked-Cook13_Dough]

Anyone else here after he revealed his horse loli folders

[@fasfuhknf234]

ye

[@boneman-calciumenjoyer8290]

KZbin brought me here. I now know who Vaush is and I wish I didn't.

[@seliph]

i dont give a shit about the horse loli i care more about that he defended the ownership of actual real kid shit this guy is scum

[@Based_Stuhlinger]

He just gets lower and lower.

[@thatidiot346]

I watched this masterpiece a few days before, and i am now watching it a few days after the fact.

[@GabrielZylstra]

You know vaush is mad when he starts calling you a "pseudointellectual”

[@the11382]

I hate the term “intellectual” myself. It bears no value, and it’s most often used in bad faith. People accusing others of being a pseudo-intellectual just do the same bad faith garbage.

[@Reverandfatdave]

The idea that Vaush is anywhere near Sam's intelligence level is laughable at best.

[@fat_2627]

You can tell what bothers Vaush and what he does by calls other people and accuses them of. He reads nothing, he knows nothing, and his arguments are entirely inductive.

[@Pangora2]

People take what hurts them most and often turn it to the other people. But Vaush is sometimes aware, and so he'll preempt people and try to guess what harms them the most instead. Like a guy who got famous for posting a funny video and getting in trouble for it. Before he was famous he was just telling jokes. So he begins the debate by picking his opponents identity. "You can't say its just a joke, however, I define you as a comedian - so explain to me comedy without mentioning jokes."

[@mommakimmins5554]

I can't help but notice Vausch is the embodiment of the pot calling the kettle black

[@nyphe5420]

The horses recommended me this 2 year old video

[@AntiFaGoat]

Straight from the horse's mouth! 🐴

[@americankid7782]

@@AntiFaGoatWhat about straight from the Horses Dic-

[@manboy4720]

which is exactly the age vaush likes!

[@epicslayerguy-hh3gi]

And the geckos too!

[@chesterlestrange7725]

​@@manboy4720😂😂 boom!

[@kirbycooper9496]

This is a certified hood classic

[@ThinkBeforeYouSleepYT]

I went and looked up the definition of "chef's kiss" and all I was able to find was a link to this video.

[@reddd4576]

Sargon, dankula, sfo and think before you sleep. Are all the channels on my subscription going to watch this video?

[@TurtleChad1]

Incel channel

[@yarlodek5842]

Haha funny incel man In all seriousness, nice to see you here!

[@dagon99]

Solid video but the take on ER and jan 6 are off. Otherwise, chefs kiss with a wrist twirl.

[@kekistanimememan170]

@@TurtleChad1 didn’t vaush issue a fatwa against virgin shaming not a good follower I see.

[@RealClassixX]

The biggest, most malicious lie Vaush has ever told is "I am not a fucking dumbass."

[@sirmoke9646]

The exact opposite. And that makes him really fucking dangerous.

[@mommakimmins5554]

I thought it was, "I argue in good faith."

[@joarX]

@@sirmoke9646 imagine being scared of this flabby tub of lard or his self-hating audience. they are only a danger to themselves. it's the people who promote him, the people who setup the algorithm to promote people like vaush that you should be worried about

[@boldandbrash8431]

Vaush is the kind of guy who would become a cop according to Vaush

[@misha130]

Nope, I don't want excuse his actions as ignorance

[@justvibin1087]

Holy shit that part where he defended newspeak because he can use it to further his ideology... thats so fucked up man

[@eoinh8425]

He's a consequentalist. Can lead to som interesting takes lmao

[@philodox7599]

@@eoinh8425 Now you are defending it. he is a fucking psycopath who can not work out his own self hate so he wants to inflict his self hate onto others. stop giving it a nice name.

[@Unknown-hb3id]

@@philodox7599 The terribleness of consequentialism is assumed lol

[@philodox7599]

@@Unknown-hb3id True, no matter what you call it in the end he is a piece of shit. I always find it amazing how people play word games and imagine that it some how excuses the real world outcomes of their actions. I don't really think the mother of a child that a man just killed cares what philosophical reasoning he used to justify it. And in reality he just killed a kid because he wanted to, There is no escaping that fact.

[@litlustre]

The irony of KZbin recommending this to me during his current controversy loll

[@Evil_Incorporate]

Rare KZbin W

[@autobotstarscream765]

It's the perfect time!

[@kaykay92]

me too lmfao. I'd imagine it's getting a lot of traction right now

[@BigBossultrastealth]

What’s going on with him now?

[@someonewhosdead4634]

​@@BigBossultrastealthHes been uploading vids and streaming non stop since the screen leak, I'm assuming it's his way of ignoring the fact that pretty much the whole Internet thinks hes a creep

[@thatguywhosayshi7021]

-Makes based as fuck video -Channel gets 13k in a week weeks -Refuses to elaborate further -*Leaves*

[@nimpsonkinkson1924]

I think this is a reupload

[@ainnochaim9450]

"Low level murder" is when you kill someone in the basement.

[@grantwithers]

I think they just mean the murder types under various state laws where you get less time in jail than for "murder in the first degree" etc.

[@red2theelectricboogaloo961]

@@grantwithers isn't first-degree the WORST one?

[@epicslayerguy-hh3gi]

Maybe he just mean third-degree murder/manslaughter.

[@Spectrik]

​@@red2theelectricboogaloo961yes which is why they made a dichotomy between first degree murder and "low level" murder like (manslaughter, 3rd degree, self defense)

[@red2theelectricboogaloo961]

@@Spectrik well, i know that one, but yeah, there's like the first degree where there's the pre-planned out intent to kill someone, there's second degree when it just happens in the moment but when you still intended to kill them, and then third degree when you intended to hurt them but not kill them and then manslaughter which was just a complete accident out of negligence or something or other. and it's involuntary and voluntary manslaughter too, voluntary manslaughter is 3rd degree murder and involuntary manslaughter is what i guess i just called "manslaughter". so yeah, that's the way it's split up.

[@archangel6749]

19:56 Vaush: "I will give Sam Harris credit for one thing if nothing else, he has the perfect cadence and vocal tone for a pseudo-intellectual." Oh...that's rich.

[@coreybedard9428]

Complete projection

[@The2012Aceman]

Well, if anybody is in a position to be High Judge of Pseudo-Intellectualism, it would be Vaush.

[@carstennielsen7198]

@@The2012Aceman It does take one to know one i guess

[@tvnorminstudio3080]

Sam Harris is a pretty reasonable guy along with other popular intellectuals.

[@epicslayerguy-hh3gi]

@@The2012Aceman*God of Pseudo-Intellectualism

[@initials_vz]

Vaush is the one topic that some lefties, centrists and right-wingers can agree on. Truly a champion of unity!

[@Grant-gq7in]

Most lefties

[@Prophetofthe8thLegion]

Nothing unites people like a mutual enemy.

[@Jrookus]

The Anti-Vaush Platform 2024

[@aRandomPerson...]

Who even likes vaush?

[@morbidhime]

never liked this guy. he is truly the matt walsh of the left

[@TKRDRJ]

Vaush calling himself a comedian is a misnomer he’s just more of a clown

[@waltergrace565]

Clown shoes.

[@henryjenkins2839]

Nah, he’s not a clown. He’s the entire circus 🎪

[@arthurmorgan332]

No different than Steven Crowder calling himself one.

[@timroberts917]

@@arthurmorgan332 yeah the only difference is one has done standup since he was a kid and the other has never done it lmao.

[@Scortch-lo3xy]

the thing is though, clowns are usually a respectable group of people, the amount of work that goes into becoming a licensed clown is truly insane. Vaush has probably never worked a day in his life, and probably wouldn't be allowed anywhere near children.

[@thalesanastacio760]

I love how Vaush can say ''i have a soft jaw" and "i'll kill who disagrees with me'' without noticing the irony.

[@willnyanyan]

soy

[@bigboy2217]

I mean, he’d use a gun.

[@epicslayerguy-hh3gi]

It's his way of concealing to the public who he truly is.

[@DHCR-core]

​@@bigboy2217 All you'd have to do is show this video to every FFL holder/gun store in a 50 mile radius to keep him from owning one.

[@mutilator97]

​@@DHCR-core pretty sure he would unnerve any gun shop worker enough to prevent him getting any weapon

[@CriticalNobody]

I had never heard of this Vaush gentleman before watching this. I now know who he is and my life is worse for it

[@hansellius]

I saw him debate Stefan Molyneux, and get utterly destroyed. I barely even know who Molyneux is (and from what people have said, he's maybe not the best person) but Vaush looked like a hypocritical idiot, and then he ran away. Everything else I've seen of Vaush is clips, and it's never good. Never ever.

[@internethardcase]

If you think Vaush is bad, just wait until you see his fans...

[@MrSmith-ve6yo]

You've now been exposed to the dark side of human character. If we continue to live justly, honestly, lovingly (all that good stuff) and only let this exposure make us just a little bit less naive, we'll be better off for it.

[@internethardcase]

@Dasset Who Yes

[@internethardcase]

@Dasset Who The fact you are defending vaush without watching the video says it all really. Also watch the part of the video called Equivocation. That should address that alt right comment. Or better yet just actually watch the video maybe.

[@LwyrupBagMan]

19:50 “He has the perfect cadence and vocal tone for a pseudo-intellectual.” Said Vaush in his classic snobby and smug voice. I don’t know how his audience doesn’t pick up on the irony and obvious projection in that sentence.

[@jamesblanco7323]

Basically everything he says is projection, outright lying, or twisted beyond recognition by a rational person.

[@Cc-on5pp]

1:13:29 My jaw dropped open during this part. I knew vaush was awful, but to defend 1984's new speak... wow. It gave me goosebumps to think he could walk away from "his favorite book" with that kind of message. New speak is literally one of the most terrifying ideas of that book. One of Winston's coworkers, who develops new speak, literally refers to it as a form of unconsciousness, a removal of one's free will. And vaush read that as a BEAUTIFUL THING!

[@Bentley7Cruize]

Yup, and he probably read the explanation of how to achieve immortality through creation and submission to an all powerful party and got goosebumps.... from the idea of being big brother. Sickening.

[@Unknown-hb3id]

I had to seriously double play that part to make sure I wasn't hearing things. Edit: Oh crap. I just got to the "I would kill everyone that disagrees with my ideology" bit. I'm convinced. This guy's 100% evil.

[@Snowfox572]

you have to understand that Vaush is an egotistical sociopath who's concerns begin and end with himself. any concerns about the well being of other people is almost entirely phony.

[@TheAmericanPrometheus]

And on top of all that, Vaush thinks he's a liblefty.

[@Notale3]

@@Unknown-hb3id To be fair, I've listened to that convo with Rem, and if I remember correctly, those clips were kind of out of context. It was within some hypotheticals about how to convince immoral people of your moral system, and Vaush could have meant that as how to finally justify his moral system. Although I may be misremembering, I encourage ppl interested to watch the Vaush and Rem philosophy convo, as its quite.... enlightening.

[@DeusVault]

Vaush has done the impossible. He has logically, morally and ethically outpaced himself to the point where his brain loops around and ends up hundreds of miles behind from where he started. Truly a marvelous character for future philosophy students to study.

[@craneisthename]

You mean for future psychology students to study as a case of sociopathic or manipulative tendencies

[@craneisthename]

@Dasset Who thinking about it after getting some sleep, you’re completely correct.

[@johndee2990]

@D Davis Lol, a past human documents their whole life, opinions, and decline of principals.. they live in a time where all factors will be studied and analyzed to further understand how events culminated. Influence and feedback loops will be acknowledged as forming factors into causes of societal dissonance. Psychology - the science that started as a dick meme and later became a useful science elevated out of Phrenology levels of WTF - is ever adapting and will find more ways to include more data-points and multi-faceted long-term studies. The Past Human studied in this class is "That time the Pedo-Misogynist attacked a Female Children's Author and the Cognitive Dissonance of his STAN base" Vaush Fanbois are going to look like Fuentes supporters by this Summer

[@johndee2990]

@D Davis Reading is hard for you.. isn't it?

[@red2theelectricboogaloo961]

"i have outpaced myself... intellectually"

[@lordshell]

My respect to you for the torturous amount of time you watched Vaush to create this. Clearly, you have a high pain threshold.

[@royalgilpin4922]

Yeah for real he must have watched dozens of hours. I couldn't have made it through more than 2 or 3

[@epicslayerguy-hh3gi]

@@royalgilpin4922I would die watching that much Vaush...

[@amj.composer]

I hate how your video is so well crafted and deeply analytical AND 2 years old but could barely taint Vaush's name, it had to take him literally revealing his....uhhhh...."goblin" folder for people to kinda realize how he his. Amazing video, seriously

[@epicslayerguy-hh3gi]

I plan to make a post in the style of "The Hidden Truth Boogie Doesn't Want You To Know" so that people know about all of his manipulation and cyberbullying, but I'd first have to figure out how to make my posts visible to other people on Reddit first.

[@amj.composer]

@@epicslayerguy-hh3gi That's a good idea, although people are slowly becoming aware of Boogie. What a POS!

[@JimFarrand]

Have people realised? Frustratingly, it seems like he's doing just fine. Apparently his fan base are so dumb and/or amoral they don't give a shit.

[@happydog6500]

I don't know which deserves more credit the detailed analysis and critique of Vaush or the fact you managed to make it through all his videos without self deletion, well done.

[@mango5811]

I can’t handle listening to cause just something about him and how talks about people who disagree with him. Props to this guy for listening to him for this amount of time.

[@virn333]

Oh by the way vaush has publicly said multiple times that he wants pedophilia to be legal.

[@ThinkBeforeYouSleepYT]

I'm going to strongly agree with this. I had to watch a couple of Vaush's videos for research and it almost drove me insane.

[@MrAsh1100]

I got recommended some of his videos after this vid. All I can say is....KZbin....why would you recommend me cancer? I rather have a more reasonable person than HIM of all people!

[@epicslayerguy-hh3gi]

He left the internet for a while after making this video, so he kinda did delete himself.

[@sammydevas559]

Lol Vaush's criticism of this video was "conservative, destiny fan, clip chimp" That means the video is probably correct.

[@josephjohn907]

Yes. Destiny Dummies put out the video

[@BoredLori]

Did vaush react to this

[@Joe-fj6dj]

@@BoredLori no he brushed it off like every other video.

[@chaserseven2886]

@@BoredLori he read the script

[@MrFace921o]

@@BoredLori No he cherry picked a couple minutes of the video and I think he felt like he debunked some claims made there, and then brushed off the entire video for his viewer base as if it was a "DGG hitpiece" on him.

[@Sines314]

"There is no good or evil. There is only power, and those too weak to seek it." - British Vaush, probably

[@KoinzellGaming]

With that rhetoric, both Hitler and Stalin weren't evil, because there's no good or evil. Slavery, genocide and killing of minorities is also ok with that reasoning, because only power exists for Vaush. That, as this video nicely put it, makes Vaush an unironically evil being. Not gonna cap, but I think Vaush is kinda seeing himself as Stalin, Mao or whoever and is taking steps of building a flock of sheep that would go out and hurt and murder others for him in the future (or present). He finds validation from the power he fields over others, and I don't doubt that he'd get his rocks off if he could "non-consensually pierce women with his 3rd leg" and get away with it (Or Harvey Weinstein women who feel like they can't fight back.. ).. Because with his morality the only virtue is power, and him exercising his power over others who can't resist is his greatest pleasure.

[@RandomAussieGuy87]

Vaush is a moral anti-realist, so that literally IS his position. Look up his take on the holocaust.

[@themanofmovies8104]

Jesus that sounds like something a bad guy from a fuckin sci Fi thing would say

[@s0LLagal]

​@@themanofmovies8104 I mean it was said by Voldemort, so you aren't too far off

[@nateisi8422]

This aged beautifully

[@sweetnerevar7030]

Will be funny when vaush reacts to the first 6 minutes, marks you as conservatve protofascists and leaves, proofing every point you made Edit: Not good

[@zlocish]

He already did lol

[@dannylamb456]

@@zlocish Why are they so predictable?

[@kronos661]

@@zlocish And he did it all?

[@ywnrnf6028]

LITERALLY THE SAME FUCKING WEEK

[@thesavagehimself7311]

Dagoth Ur welcomes you Nerevar

[@SaintAdjacent]

"Low level murder" when you're just grinding trash mobs in the first dungeon

[@Mr.Slinky]

Or Vaush and his clones

[@mostlydead3261]

speaking of trash mobs doomerpolitics is one for sure kzbin.info/www/bejne/i5ObiYFpa6ynn9k

[@fredo3161]

Lol

[@unikat6838]

Think that one was about first second and third degree

[@SaintAdjacent]

@@unikat6838 you're missing the joke... I know that's what it meant, but still I don't think calling murder "low level" is appropriate. Vaush is as Dumb as he his Evil

[@LexBravary]

1:13:12 - 1:14:37 I knew he was insufferable but this really puts it in prospective. He literally says 1984 is his favorite book, not because its a warning of what could be, but because it is what he aspires to do to society. WOW.

[@VACatholic]

He's just repeating what Hilary Clinton said when asked about it. He's in good company.

[@robosoldier11]

The fact he called it a beautiful thing is absolutely horrendous. Just wtf just hook Vaush up to the matrix and let him rot in it.

[@Cobalt985]

That debate would've been what, 4 years ago? Just curious.

[@electricelephant7471]

I like how Vaush justifies it by saying he genuinely believes he's helping people. He should have read this quote. _______ 'You are ruling over us for our own good,' he said feebly. 'You believe that human beings are not fit to govern themselves, and therefore-' He started and almost cried out. A pang of pain had shot through his body. O'Brien had pushed the lever of the dial up to thirty-five. 'That was stupid, Winston, stupid!' he said. 'You should know better than to say a thing like that.' He pulled the lever back and continued: 'Now I will tell you the answer to my question. It is this. The Party seeks power entirely for its own sake. We are not interested in the good of others ; we are interested solely in power. Not wealth or luxury or long life or happiness: only power, pure power. What pure power means you will understand presently. We are different from all the oligarchies of the past, in that we know what we are doing. All the others, even those who resembled ourselves, were- cowards and hypocrites. The German Nazis and the Russian Communists came very close to us in their methods, but they never had the courage to recognize their own motives. They pretended, perhaps they even believed, that they had seized power unwillingly and for a limited time, and that just round the corner there lay a paradise where human beings would be free and equal. We are not like that. We know that no one ever seizes power with the intention of relinquishing it. Power is not a means, it is an end. One does not establish a dictatorship in order to safeguard a revolution; one makes the revolution in order to establish the dictatorship. The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power. Now do you begin to understand me?'

[@buddysyst3m]

Orwell was an avowed left winger so this all tracks with just a little bit of research.

[@insertsomememereferenceher8483]

>make a living debating socialism online >continue repeating his cheap "gotchas" and strawmans before claiming victory five seconds into the debate >still lose every debate

[@MrReVersed]

He is a pathetic excuse for a Socialist, he is basically a Neo-liberal who loves the USA and its Imperialism

[@MrReVersed]

Not even a true socialist lol

[@crackpotjones]

​@@MrReVersed"TheREs NoOnE tO tHE LeFt oF mE"

[@MrReVersed]

@@crackpotjones yeah, while also supporting NATO, the EU, US military hegemony, hating the USSR, and loving Free trade and "Economic freedom"

[@r0bert649]

@@MrReVersed while I periodically watch Vaush, I have very serious problems with his ideology. For example, I will never stand with any form of anarchy. I don't think that as a society, we can exist without any governing body. It's just a matter of question, how opressive it will be. But I write this because of some problems with your statement. Nowadays you can be a socialist and stand by capitalist block of USA and EU. Imperialistic tendencies are observable in pretty much every major political power now. Russia and China are not exempt from it either. And, get this: they are capitalist as well. So it's just a big game of main market players. So I propose to choose a side using metrics such as human rights and wellfare. The clear winner is EU. European Union has its problems, sure, but you have real parlament and political parties, not some two-sided or one nation, one party dogpoop. You have real freedom of speach, and you will not be prosecuted for your ideology (except nazies for apparent, I hope, reasons). Healthcare situation is wonderful, US of A citizens can only dream of something like that. You have a lot of social programs, class mobility is quite high, especially compared with China, Russia and USA. I understand your desire for a real socialist state, believe me, I do. But such wonder cannot be achieved without time and care. And you must agree, it's easier to pursue your ideological goals when you're not prosecuted just because you disagree with you leaders.

[@ingliss]

It's clear that around 10 minutes into the debate, after Vaush predicts Dank would legitimately defend use of a joke by pointing out that it was a joke, Dank could just have said "I accept your surrender" and left it at that.

[@migarsormrapophis2755]

"I'm going to guess you're going to try to defend your jokes by claiming they were jokes, am'I'right?" "Yes." Well, that more or less settled that

[@phoivos]

@@migarsormrapophis2755 End of debate. Oops, then there would be no more superchats! So, gotta gaslight and run circles around Dankula to milk the audience out of every penny possible while dancing on the grave of the definition of the word "Nazi".

[@eoinh8425]

Accepting that "it was just a joke" is a valid argument doesn't mean it is ALWAYS inherently a valid one. WHite supremacist dogwhistling is common knowledge. While I may not agree that Dank is necessarily one, you DO need to read into people's comments sometimes otherwise it'd be impossible to call anyone white supremacist.

[@steaksauce232]

@@eoinh8425 It's not "common knowledge," it's leftists needing to pretend they're beset on all sides by white supremacists.

[@eoinh8425]

@@steaksauce232 LMAO, indefensible take dude. Right, righty pundits didn't switch to saying "thugs' when exclusively describing black demographics for optics. Online phrases and memes definitely NEVER got co-opted by legit nazis after 4chan started it as a joke. White supremacist dogwhistling IS a thing, that's the only way they can remain in modern discourse.

[@oldmanold7863]

Please do one of these on Hasan Piker, the amount of inconsistencies in his logic is crazy.

[@entova]

People think everybody hates him for the house thing, but it’s a lot more. The house was just the breaking point for lots of people

[@brian8507]

@@entova I am a capitalist... and hasans hyper capitalistic consumer behavior sickens even me

[@yc6018]

@@brian8507 😂

[@kevenfromsales6830]

@@brian8507 Hasan is most digusting capitalist on internet, he exploiting his audience by selling communism via capitalism lmao

[@brian8507]

@@kevenfromsales6830 seriously.. fooling his dumb audience into communism .... yet when the cameras go off... he hangs out with sex workers in his expensive house.... while dressed in Gucci and wastes incredible amounts of money on this empty. .. hyper consumerist lifestyle. A true sociopath. He reminds Me of the movie American psycho .... where instead of pretending to be an investment banker... the main character pretends to be a socialist

[@Aiphiae]

He always struck me as having a psychopathic streak. The way he can sit there, so arrogant, so sure he's right in *every* regard, the way he plays his audience, smirks at the camera, avoids criticism, and can *never* be wrong... it was always a little unsettling.

[@rebornstillborn]

Sorry, long rant but I don't think he needs to be a psychopath - just a copy of the stereotype basement dwelling incel actually made real. His followers reinforce and justify the idea that he should "take revenge" at society and is being moral while doing it. Without his audience to fall back on, he'd be a total bitch. Just look at how he sucked up to Destiny for what, years? He is just lying to his audience that he always wins, and everybody is nazi because he knows they will buy it and he gets to keep raking in dollars.

[@scarlet8078]

Wait until you hear about the sick stuff he did to the girls in Destiny's discord a while back 🤢

[@ProxyDoug]

@@scarlet8078 I'm curious.

[@Aiphiae]

@@scarlet8078 Well come on, you've gotta tell us now...

[@CharlieFoxtrot]

@@scarlet8078 can you elaborate

[@MollyMargolisBillCipherIsBae]

You have single-handedly summarized my feelings about Vaush in this one video. It’s terrifying to me that so many people actually support him and that people genuinely completely agree with him.

[@johndee2990]

Not for Long, Vaush made a Cope-Stream after J.K Rowling exposed him to the MSM as a Misogynist with Sus comments about Children. This is the first video I can find breaking down the Cope-Stream kzbin.info/www/bejne/r5u6p5ywpaykhq8

[@Jordan-cd7zj]

The coping, seething, and dilating of Vaush cultists speaks volumes.

[@TurtleChad1]

Ok

[@noanswer1864]

It's such a lovely sight to behold. I've heard people make this argument on the small scale often enough, but an entire feature-length video with all the damning details is just absolutely fantastic. I hope you're enjoying the grim, tear stained expressions of the bread liners insisting that they're not crying in the comments as much as I am.

[@jondoe483]

@@TurtleChad1 You know its true!

[@dwarvenminer3329]

You do a disservice to your name

[@jondoe483]

@@dwarvenminer3329 Vaush doesnt like the ussr or russia. Try harder vaushite

[@willofthepeople3881]

Vaush has no idea how MANY people are aware of this and dont want him to come back either. We dont ever want you back here vaush

[@Fudgaboutit]

It's not just Vaush the individual. It is every single other living commie on earth we don't want to come back

[@willofthepeople3881]

@@Fudgaboutit im talking about where he went to college at

[@willofthepeople3881]

@@Fudgaboutit if he comes back to arcata he just better be fast or secretive

[@willofthepeople3881]

@@Fudgaboutit the arcata police department doesnt even want vaush to come back after all hes said so i hope he doesn't expect to call the cops and be saved either

[@willofthepeople3881]

@@Fudgaboutit his literal only chance would be CHP or the sheriff's office if they dont know yet too

[@FlynnMTaggart]

You forgot one important part about the Vaush/Dank "debate". Dank agreed to it as long as Vaush doesn't put it on his channel for revenue purposes and to get a third party to have it on their channel. And Vaush agreed to this... Only to later on put it on his channel for revenue purposes.

[@steellegion7054]

You got the time stamp or the clip. I believe in you, but the sauce would make this great.

[@etherealfoxproductions]

Vaush is a bad faith debater. What is so ironic is this so called “Libertarian Socialist” is against Capitalism but uses KZbin, a product of Capitalism, to profit off of an ideology inevitable of failure.

[@HandyDandy6]

@@etherealfoxproductions It's ironic that a person in America uses KZbin? I see what you're trying to say but its just silly as people all over the world use it because it's the one of the biggest video streaming platforms with an established base of viewers.

[@TheQuilava96]

@@HandyDandy6 you just dodge his point and dodged it hard lol

[@HandyDandy6]

@@TheQuilava96 How? They said it's ironic a socialist is using KZbin and being a creator on it, or profiting off of capitalism. Working any job in America is essentially profiting off of capitalism but at the end of the day you still have to make a living for yourself or youd starve. I don't think working as a streamer/content creator is necessarily practical for many but for the people that do make a living off of it I don't blame them.

[@genovevesimmons]

Wow. This couldn’t have aged more perfectly.

[@iWhisperASMR]

This is the first time anyone has made a bad faith attempt at Vaush. Wow. I am so shook!

[@Good_Emperor]

I think when Vaush said "I never heard a convincing moral or legal argument for why owning cp is unethical" that's enough to label him evil.

[@Good_Emperor]

Vaush has "Virtue Ethics", lol!

[@prettyboyjeremy]

Exactly Then again this is the guy who probably views children as property of the state. You can abort ‘em, take inappropriate pictures of ‘em, and when you’re done throw ‘em in the trash.

[@desotron341]

@@Good_Emperor I’m an Aristotelian virtue ethicist. Please don’t say that he is even as a joke LOL

[@inovakovsky]

@@Good_Emperor The CP stuff is half true. He said that since society uses child labor that harm kids like cobalt mining for computer, chocolate, etc. (he compares to cp because they both harm kids). He used that fact and comparison (which is not a good comparison, imo) to say that SOCIETY lacks an internal justification or consistent standard against cp because it is not willing to go after other industries that harm kids. I think he is an idiot to compare cobalt mining to cp because cobalt mining does not require harming of children.

[@eoinh8425]

Completely out of context. He was making a comparison to how difficult ethical consumption is. Before AND after that he said CP is unacceptable. It was an argument that consuming an unethically made product CAN be unethical.

[@kosmicosis]

"There have literally been studies done on the authoritarian brain; tend to be lower IQ, more fearful, more impressionable..." -Vaush I wonder if he knows he is talking about himself.

[@Molten-Throne]

Wait haven’t there been studies in that fact? That conservatives more likely to be those things? I’m pretty sure I’ve read that. And if that’s true your joke doesn’t really land. You’d make the joke that Vaush is all those things and therefore should be a conservative. Or that he’s an outlier in the liberal camp

[@kosmicosis]

@@Molten-Throne The joke lands because he is clearly authoritarian, regardless of him self-labeling (more like LARPing) as a libertarian. There is no need to bring the conservative or liberal label into this, since it was only to do with authoritarianism. Not to mention Vaush is really neither conservative nor liberal.

[@Molten-Throne]

@@kosmicosis okay you’re sorta jumping around, you said Vaush said fascists are fearful and impressionable and such, but I’ve only seen studies referring to conservatives and liberals. Which those studies have come into question. If you wanna link some studies done on authoritarian minded people that would be interesting. How is Vaush authoritarian? Even this video didn’t really substantiate that point. It tried to point out that Vaush only believes in power and that he’ll die whatever it takes to gain that power, but you could be libertarian and believe that. Like I could believe power Is the only thing that matters, and then try to grab that power through anarchism and gaining power through community. I don’t think that would make you authoritarian, just means you have the perspective that at the end of the day everything is reduced to who has the power

[@Trained_Duck]

@Awsometime So he fits right in on the internet political sphere.

[@inovakovsky]

@@kosmicosis How? He never defended countries that restrict civil liberties. Not even Yugoslavia, which had an economic model of worker co-ops.

[@Omn1c1d3]

I didn't need an hour and half video to think Vaush was evil, but I sure as shit do appreciate it.

[@uncertaintytoworldpeace3650]

Are you people not familiar with “all publicity is good publicity”

[@mr.brenman2132]

​@@uncertaintytoworldpeace3650Yeah and it's not true. I'm not sure how that's relevant.

[@epicslayerguy-hh3gi]

@@uncertaintytoworldpeace3650 Would you want publicity for killing kids or committing war crimes?

[@youforget1000thingsaday]

To say this aged like wine is an understatement.

[@epicslayerguy-hh3gi]

Would saying this aged like golden wine be an understatement too?

[@lollllolll.]

It didn't age at all, it's still fresh and healthy homie 😂

[@joel_the_ai]

Vaush got intellectually OUTPACED in this debate.

[@grippercrapper]

OUTBASED

[@sweetnerevar7030]

Not the case, to be intellectually outpaced he should be present for the video. He flew over like 5 minutes in ecos fascism definition and left

[@juliusebola9712]

@@sweetnerevar7030 it's a meme bro

[@1986tessie]

@@juliusebola9712 lol the cringe when ta gotta explain it.

[@merlotpapi4930]

@@1986tessie The cope spiral is real. Vaush's fans are as insecure as he is

[@alexgreen4361]

Vaush represents the one moral that I can never find a way to justify: the ends justify he means. He constructs his worldview and opinions beginning with the presupposition that he is correct, which therefore means whatever action he takes or views as helping will build towards the world he wishes to see, which he has already decided is the best outcome. There is no room for uncertainty or being incorrect for him. Nothing in our world is entirely and always accurately predicted before either happens, which begs the question of how can you act as though any action will have a guaranteed outcome, and with that how can you justify actions that *should* move towards your worldview the you *believe* is correct. We always should be ready for the situation in which we are wrong.

[@xdragoonzero0]

The only situations where I can even come close to justifying a "ends justify the means", are basically all fictional or so contrived that there's essentially no chance they'll ever happen. That or they're so focused on survival where the evil being done is to avoid imminent death. Stuff like smothering crying babies to avoid being found and killed. But in those situations it feels wrong to even judge those involved, because doing so is like saying they should've died. Anyways, tl:dr, in my mind "ends justify the means" is basically fictional.

[@Pixelsmixel]

See this is the take. This video is a meme but this comment is correct.

[@theketaminekid1241]

@@Pixelsmixel How is this video a "meme?"

[@bldbar118]

The fact that shit like this can exist is a blessing; without a video like this it’s so hard to talk about these behaviors.Thanks for putting the time in to do it right.

[@mostlydead3261]

I have something better for u kzbin.info/www/bejne/eHq5mq2phs5gnNU

[@nsanenbrane53]

@mostly dead Sophistry?

[@jackmak2980]

@@mostlydead3261 slave

[@frankmarano1118]

Hes so bad faith in that debate like jesus christ

[@SirAxelGrimnir703]

PROJECTION!!!!!! 7:46 With everything that has come out, Vaush is projecting here

[@americankid7782]

All of the recent comments are like this and I love it.

[@epicslayerguy-hh3gi]

We could use him as a movie projector, maybe that will give him value.

[@soundwave9233]

Vaush's Consequentialism: Intentions for me. Outcomes for thee. Love it. You are correct. He will never look at the intention's of others because they have to be evil.

[@migarsormrapophis2755]

And how do consequentialists decide what outcomes are good and which are bad? The same way other people decide what actions are good and which are bad: deontologically

[@soundwave9233]

@@migarsormrapophis2755 you do realize that Vaush doesn't like the concept of deontological thinking? He believes you should be able to lie, cheat, and steal if it means a win. That is why you can find videos where it says he has no morals

[@migarsormrapophis2755]

@@soundwave9233 Yes, I do realize that Voosh dislikes deontological thinking, despite relying on it heavily himself to determine which 'outcomes' are good and which are bad. That was my point.

[@soundwave9233]

@@migarsormrapophis2755 I misinterpreted what you meant. Yeah, he does do that a lot.

[@migarsormrapophis2755]

@@soundwave9233 All good, text isn't always the best medium to convey such thoughts

[@praexis1]

This was like watching a car crash. Everything Vaush said was so incredibly repulsive I wanted to turn away from the video but I just couldn't, I pray for those that follow this man like the Bible.

[@Kosithegod]

I love how everyone here is engaging in the same overly emotive hyperbole they say is the problem.

[@sb6675]

@@Kosithegod Simp for your cult leader who likes to throw around racial slurs.

[@Jimmy-iy9pl]

@@Kosithegod I agree with the OP. Vaush is just a repulsive person to the core. I can tolerate listening to bread tubers like Destiny or Contra Points for quite a while, but I can't stand Vaush's grossness for any more than a couple of minutes.

[@TheNamelessScholarOfficial]

We now have a generation who unironically believes PewDiePie is a White Nationalist. PewDiePie is an immigrant and a jew.

[@Axel-iy4xs]

@@Jimmy-iy9pl wait so how do you tolerate the famous breadtuber destiny if he spends a disproportionate amount of time covering vaush

[@MidlifeCrisisJoe]

Vaush's ability to immediately turn around and "commit" to a 180 position on something he just agreed to or said seconds prior has to be taught in debate and rhetoric classes in the future and given a pithy name. It's one of the most easily seen and demonstrable forms of bad faith argument that I've ever seen and he does it ALL the time. The "Vaushian Faith-Flip" or something like that.

[@Squashy5107]

Isn't that just called PilPul?

[@stephenphilbin3919]

I get the impression that his style is to to walk people into agreeing to an acceptable definition of something, and then suddenly flipping to attempt to differentiate himself from that point of agreement, whist also trying to besmirch anyone who would agree to it-a bit like the opposite of whitewashing someone's rhetoric. For this reason I would suggest _"Black Vaush"_ .

[@insensitive919]

He probably stole the tactic from elsewhere, so naming it after him wouldn't be kosher tbh

[@stephenphilbin3919]

@@insensitive919 It's often the case that things like this are named after their most prolific/notorious users rather than their originators-plus it'd be funny.

[@dougdonelson9471]

It's sooo infuriating. I don't know how people can tolerate more than a few seconds before feeling faint.

[@bengunderson712]

Last night at dinner, I asked for their finest aged wine, and the waiter brought me this video.

[@bengunderson712]

@@GlassMelon LOL

[@epicslayerguy-hh3gi]

@@GlassMelon It would be even better if the steak comes from a young horse.

[@killer3000ad]

"Doomerpolitics is clearly a Nazi!", Vaush fans after seeing this brutal takedown.

[@neetpride5919]

nah most vaush fans are just there for the memes

[@MrCatofdoom]

​@@neetpride5919 i seen quite a few shitfests here, people are really passionate about this for some reason. I thought that it was quite obvious that Vaush was a bit of a dickhead, i thought his main schtick was about how brash he was. I mean really, how can you do the sort of things that Vaush does without being a bit of a bloodsports dude.

[@Venus-yt8dd]

Huh thats funny Haven't seen a single person call doomer a nazi in the 6 weeks this video has been out. The only thing doomer is, is a backpedaller if you seen him on dylan burns stream

[@JasonSmith-eo2hu]

@@Venus-yt8dd isn’t that something Vaush does in every debate? Like makes an outrageous claim, then backpedals around the person where they can’t determine what he actually just said?

[@Venus-yt8dd]

@@JasonSmith-eo2hu ehh not really. He debates really really stupid people so making them look bad is quit easy to do without being malicious

[@zaddokford7314]

I've been a Vaush watcher for about a year now. Had a few issues with him before but often used him as a background noise so I could listen to counterarguments for Prager U videos for a bit. This...has given me much to think about.

[@Senumunu]

you have way bigger problems if you need counter arguments for prager u videos... they get ratioed by their own base. see here kzbin.info/www/bejne/e6XZl3ukj7KWhbs

[@seanevans6880]

Good on you. You're one step further to walking away from the insane power-mad fantasies of leftist ideologues.

[@jackmak2980]

You're breaking the conditioning

[@serv4619]

Prager U is a fucking joke, I don't think anyone really takes it seriously

[@g.j.2950]

Just listen to Chapo

[@zeo5527]

It's so satisfying to see someone so accurately describe every half formed idea that has been floating around in my head for the past couple years. I couldn't quite put to words what I saw wrong with vaush but this guy hit every nail in a single video. Amazing.

[@jerryns3020]

Perfect description of Vaush is that he gets high off of his own flatulence. The dude's so full of himself.

[@DieHard602]

this video aged very well

[@Daniel-wr9ql]

So true bestie

[@epicslayerguy-hh3gi]

He's always been evil, he just stopped being able to convince most people that he isn't.

[@cam2307]

nice pfp

[@DieHard602]

@@cam2307 thanks

[@spamman6369]

He’s a sad little boy. I would pity him if he weren’t so scorched-earth-level nasty of a person.

[@lanfrancoadreani9212]

>probably millionaire >Grew up in Beverly Hills >A man child >Narcisist >Preaches High ideals he doesn't live by >Maniacal, violent and genocidal in his ideas. Somehow he Is also entitled to my compassion, lol fucking no.

[@zoidberg444]

He is sitting on a pile of cash laughing his arse off. He is funded by mainstream media and is being astroturfed and probably funded by KZbin on top of that as well. He gets his marching orders and talking points from the MSM just like other astroturfed leftoid cretins like "The Young Turks" do.

[@mattleofric1766]

I had him pegged from day one.

[@insensitive919]

@@zoidberg444 Styx covered that, I hope Doomer has seen it

[@mostlydead3261]

not as sad as doomerpolitics kzbin.info/www/bejne/p37GiWijbtKHaKM

[@paulotheman8734]

the funny thing is everything he says about others, many times, depicts him in perfection.

[@josedorsaith5261]

I remember reading that in Rules for Radicals (Saul Alinsky). Always accuse your opponent of your own misdeeds, to draw attention away from you

[@Verlisify]

These kinds of people have zero self awareness and their audiences are too stupid to see hypocrisy

[@tinyknott]

It's always projection. Always. "You only say this because you hate X group" = "I hate Y so fucking much and it informs my whole worldview, thus you have to hate X to inform your worldview"

[@ruddthreetrees1104]

Sargons law

[@theshow946]

Fascist 😃

[@CryptoKang]

Such a video was in the ether, t'was only a matter of time. Good work man.

[@kayfrenly5460]

This fascist channel is gone. Already in talks with google staff.

[@PabloSensei]

@@kayfrenly5460 lel

[@Cornithius]

@@kayfrenly5460 I agree vaush’s channel is gone, thanks for agreeing 👍

[@jsharp9735]

@@kayfrenly5460 Crazzzzzy !! Coo COO coo COO

[@mostlydead3261]

PS demolished this kid tho kzbin.info/www/bejne/i5ObiYFpa6ynn9k

[@minerat27]

I opened this video with the intention of listening to it in the background while I played some games, I thought Vaush was a dishonest idiot but was willing to hear the case for him being evil based on Sargon's recommendation. Now I am 100% convinced, it is genuinely scary hearing Vaush talk about 1984 and his views on the party. There's always been the joke that "1984 is an instruction manual", but I don't think I've ever come across anyone like Vaush who will unironically outright admit to it, and it's fucking terrifying.

[@minerat27]

Mother of God, I made this comment before I got to the bit where he outright admits that the only way he could resolve fundamental moral differences with someone was by FUCKING KILLING THEM! For the love of all that is holy please keep Vaush away from any kind of actual power.

[@bradspitt3896]

That teacher exposed in veritas' recent video also welcomed 1984 dystopia.

[@kingterry6045]

@@minerat27 You should see his real name. It's no surprise really...every. single. time.

[@stevenborg102]

@@bradspitt3896 Do they not understand they would be trapped in the same nighmare hell as the rest of us??

[@minerat27]

@@stevenborg102 They think they will be the O'Brien's of the world but they're more likely to end up as Syme's

[@nudibranch8659]

Stopped watching Vaush a few months back because of this stuff, glad a video is out highlighting precisely why

[@unkownuser41190]

Same here

[@lazerstan]

@@unkownuser41190 yea, vaush has some good points. but he cant help but be a lying asshole so often that it becomes stupid.

[@problemsolver3254]

which people do you watch now

[@litrogue6328]

You stopped because you started supporting evil right wing liars you mean.

[@nudibranch8659]

@@litrogue6328 Still left as I've ever been

[@Alberich_Prince_of_Dwarves]

The fact that Vaush has any kind of reach is scary..

[@ThePhillyDz]

For a guy who looks like he has trouble reaching his toes, it's astonishing

[@Alberich_Prince_of_Dwarves]

@@ThePhillyDz he's probably got some of his loli followers to do it for him.

[@epicslayerguy-hh3gi]

@@ThePhillyDzHe gets his reach by pandering to chronically online Democrats who defend whoever has the same crazy politics as them, no matter how horrible they are.

[@HumanZombie99]

I'm at 58:11 and i just want to say that this part makes me feel better. It's black and white prof that normal people on different sides of the political spectrum still aren't that different deep down, and that a world where everyone (or most people) can just get along isn't a pipe dream

[@QuartzChrysalis]

Low level murder is any killing that happens before you unlock your ultimate.

[@Akiraspin]

This guy gets it.

[@ManiacalForeigner]

"Duuude, like, what do you want Vaush to do, die?" - Hasan's chair, probably

[@Daemondog]

The Nuggie Lord speaketh

[@EdgarFriendlysCivicsTeacher]

"Dewdt, dewdt... like......... no."

[@123kinged]

Pretty confident that chair-san wants to die after 10 hour long nuggie farts

[@hussarzwei6223]

Toxic brood unite! You have the right to like The Last Jedi, sayeth John Adams.

[@MrAskmannen]

Based and nuggiepilled

[@ItsMcGeeGents]

i thought it was quite weird when he admitted to sexually harassing someone thru discord, live on stream, and immediately laughed it off and his chat barely cared. i dont know the video but this guy does not care about the rights of people, he simply wants to appear smart and edgy :/

[@epicslayerguy-hh3gi]

Contrary to popular belief, he did not stop harassing Poppy after the "apology". Poppy has said on r/Destiny that he continued harassing her and called her a racist conservative and sociopath after the "apology".

[@triangulum8869]

Did you expect twitch chatters to have a functioning brain

[@pegacis]

As someone who used to watch vaush I’m not 100% sure if he directly came out and said it at some point but it’s pretty obvious that he wants to repurpose a lot of the the things he criticises the right for, but for the left. In terms of propaganda, fear mongering, misinformation. Hes very aware of the effectiveness of those strategies and isn’t dumb and doing these things unintentionally. He I think wants to mobilise and militarise the left similar to how right wings have the proud boys and such.

[@dazeslays]

i agree, he's like any right wing streamer in mannerisms and logic and temperament except the conservative beliefs are switched out with leftist ones. i think it's an... interesting approach. i can see the reasoning behind it, to appeal to the types of folks who might fall down the alt-right pipeline by using similar tactics. but i don't think he does it well enough to justify it. he's a decent entry point into the leftist sphere, but because he's so hostile and his fans are so weird a lot of people get stuck in the vaush zone and never expand beyond that. he seems to have forgotten why he's using the strategies he uses and has just become a stagnant, abrasive, and all around unpleasant person. i don't believe that being nice is some sort of moral imperative of leftist praxis-sometimes if you want to get things done politically you've gotta be an asshole about it. but i do think compassion is an important element of many branches of leftist thought and he has clearly eschewed that completely and in my opinion online leftist spaces are worse off because of it

[@SilencedForgotten]

'yikers' my experience with this video as a whole. good job, man. strong work!

[@Fudgaboutit]

YIKARINOS!

[@SaberInferno]

Hey nice seeing you here man!

[@mikek9297]

This video has more research and thought behind it than the entire Sargon of Akkad channel.

[@mostlydead3261]

my two but not for the same reason kzbin.info/www/bejne/i5ObiYFpa6ynn9k

[@Beelzeboogie]

Jesus all the people that Destiny ate 3 years ago are out in force.

[@Ellebeeby]

Ironically, Vaush should be on many, many lists.

[@mattleofric1766]

The moment he outlives his usefulness to the people he preys on from broken homes, the elites will drop him like a hot potato.

[@dean_l33]

@@mattleofric1766 Hopefully that time would never come

[@regencyrow1867]

I'm pretty sure Vaush is going to be arrested for noncery one of these days.

[@dean_l33]

@@regencyrow1867 They haven't done anything with the cuties defender. So I doubt that time would come soon

[@lanfrancoadreani9212]

@@dean_l33 he Is unstable, you can rely on the fact that sooner or later he Is gonna Say something he Is no supposed to, bother someone he Is not supposed to, or fuck himself with his own hands doing illegal shit. He could implode today Like in a year. Sure enough there Is no Happy ending scenario for Vaush.

[@ActuallyJozu]

I like how Vaush calls Sam Harris, a man with a PhD in neuroscience, a "pseudo-intellectual" when he loves to brag about his fucking BA in Sociology lolol

[@peenweinerstein9968]

@verygoodusername name true but the irony is the key point. if Sam is a pseud, what does that make vaush?

[@attackeverytime6082]

This video comprehensively dismantles your favorite Cadillac communist. Were you surprised or disappointed that Vaush was too afraid to defend himself from this exposure of his deliberate dishonesty???

[@peenweinerstein9968]

@verygoodusername name ok, dude.

[@NicodemusT]

@verygoodusername name watch the Sam Harris bit. No one could argue that.

[@robinparmethos3935]

The fact that he called Sam Harris a conservative (which he is not) and said on another occasion that conservatives, nazis, and fascists are basically the same means that he thinks a progressive liberal is equal to a nazi for disagreeing with him. Vowsh went so far down the radical left pipeline (the real radical left, not the strawman SJW memes) that he's beyond saving, unfortunately. Even if you are a centrist or leftist, you don't want to be around someone so evil and deceitful

[@vistagreat9994]

Used to be "Vaush is Unironically Evil" to "Is Vaush Unironically Evil?" to "Vaush is Unironically Evil" We've gone full circle.

[@BlueOblivion74]

Vaush is a great example of someone who tries to look like a good person but isn't.

[@hashvendetta7226]

So... leftists?

[@margerald1]

Honestly it seems that almost everyone on the extremes are heavily bias'd to one side and are completely insane. And they have to audacity to say centrists are low life idiots with superiority complexes for calling them out on their bs.

[@andredunhos4097]

An alien that thinks it has nailed mimicking the moral system of humans

[@JOSEPH-vs2gc]

Sociopath is an appropriate word. i'm not exaggerating.

[@sophiacristina]

@@margerald1 Ohhh, and aren't you centrist doing exactly the same with this comment you made?

[@migarsormrapophis2755]

Voosh: "I see no reason to be honest or fair in my dealings, so long as my unreasonable thinking and dishonesty get me closer to my political goals." Everyone: Rejects Voosh for being dishonest and unreasonable, impeding him from achieving his political goals. Voosh: *Surprised Pikachu Face* Vaush: "Yeah, but all I wanted was their money, and they gave that to me, so I see this as a win-win."

[@TomyDayos]

Many people will still defend him, no matter how much you attack, as they have the same political goals than him. Being on the same side is more important than being morally right.

[@missing_links]

@@TomyDayos Do they have the same political goal, or do they have the goal that Vaush disingenuously expresses for the purpose of grifting from them? Because Vaush's goal is enriching himself and stroking his own ego. I really don't think anyone else shares that goal.

[@TomyDayos]

@@missing_links To tell the truth. I'm not quite sure... When someone tells something, no matter how stupid or evil, I always start with the presumption that the person really believe in what they are saying. You can call me naive if you want. I mean, every single human believe that they are on the side of good, and extremists believe that since they are on the side of the good, that everything that goes against then is evil, and this give then to be a nasty as possible towards these 'Evil' people. If you stop to read about serial killers, rapists, bloody dictators like hit-tler and people of this kind, you will find a theme. Every single one of the worst killers of the world believe that either they deserved something and that the other person was in the way, or that the other person deserved to die for some arbitrary reason. They all claimed that they where right in doing these evil acts. For example, the Na-zis really believed that all Je-ws where evil and greedy. And that's why they had to be put in concentration camps. But alas, what do you think about this? Agree or disagree? I am curious to see your opinion!

[@bfranciscop]

@@missing_links I suspect a lot of his viewers _are_ getting an ego-stroking from watching Vaush, so it's a mutual thing. When someone agrees with you, it produces positive feelings and reinforcement, an affirmation that your own beliefs are right, especially when that agreement comes wrapped in a veneer of legitimacy. Ideally you'd seek to get this sort of reinforcement from someone who isn't a liar and a grifter, someone who is capable of admitting when they're wrong... but hey, such are the ways of confirmation bias.

[@jetflaque8187]

This wasn't so much a BFTO as it was a surgical dissection, great job

[@gabedegoeij1190]

Before watching this video, I never really gave Vaush so much as a taught. He just seemed like a Ben Shapiro for the left. Not in the personality way, but in the space that he occupies in the online discussion. Now I see that this fucking guy would, if he got the chance, totally be a dictator. Honestly, I now think that the only reason this guy is “left” is because he believes that is where more personal and political power can be gained. The right supports strength and responsibility in the individual, kinda. And the left finds strength through numbers and collaboration, kinda. I honestly think that this guy saw the left group and thought; this is it, this is my road to power. He obviously doesn’t care about the ethics or the morals behind it all. He just saw two groups, both wanting power for their ethics. And he just understood that claiming to believe in this group would get him powerful/influential/online-famous/to-be-someone

[@kempokiai]

Sargon sent me. I stayed for your amazing attention to detail, thorough research, and overall dedication to doing what we all loathed to do. I cannot thank you enough for your investment of time into this. +1 subscriber Brb gonna binge your stuff.

[@ViralVenom]

@Glockjaw Not as embarrassing as your mom!

[@neoniohnn]

same

[@tillbot8]

@Glockjaw Why?

[@dralord1307]

@Glockjaw A classical lib "now somewhat on the right" that agrees with doomerpolitics on a topic is somehow embarassing. I think you might fit right in with Vaush

[@MidlifeCrisisJoe]

@Glockjaw Imagine hating Carl in Anno Domini 2021. What a maroon.

[@drunkenfox2519]

This is brutal can’t believe you were so meticulous this must’ve taken hours upon hours to create.

[@firstnamelastname5612]

Thing is with Vaush you don't have to put him under a microscope. He's so brazen with his dog shit politics and ethics.

[@saskiaviking9447]

Vaush is one of the biggest narcissists I have ever seen

[@lixlivlxxxiv714]

I think that's a good description. Main character syndrome. We all like attention, but he wants it so much he's ready to go as far as needed. He wants to appear as THAT epic guy whose extremism can't be matched.

[@lixlivlxxxiv714]

@The Word We Know Tbf that can be a funny meme.

[@inovakovsky]

@The Word We Knew That was fan art, so I can see why he would like to express thanks to his fan.

[@inovakovsky]

@The Word We Knew Yea. I guess paying the fan would have been better.

[@neetpride5919]

and that's why he is successful on these platforms

[@Germanicus-]

Vaush in one sentence. If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit.

[@georgeorwell8492]

Love your comment! I think it can be improved with a small change if you will. If you can't Dazzle them with Dialectic, Baffle them with Bullshit. - Germanicus_Circa 2021_(Colorized)

[@Germanicus-]

@@georgeorwell8492 Sounds good 😁👍

[@epicslayerguy-hh3gi]

He's good at tricking the unintelligent into thinking he's smart.

[@Spectrik]

​@nerdroundabout-hh3gi yeah I call it peterson dance, they use rhetoric and academic language to mask the vapid arguments they make

[@Andrewz9oh4]

I'm a classical liberal, but Vaush makes me want to identify as a conservative just so I can be the antithesis of whatever the fuck he is.

[@vuky258_]

this made me laugh :D

[@johndee2990]

Classic Liberalism was the foundation of Conservatism, A framework of Rights understood by the populace without the overuse of laws for enforcement.. The NEO-factions of either Conservative or Liberal are both Big Government Advocates, Authoritarian.

[@aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa]

Being a libertarian is the antithesis of vaush.

[@vikkipink1288]

Trust me the left doesn’t claim him or any of his clones and wants them gone just as much as everyone else. Lol the one thing to unite all the political parties is a hatred of Vaush and the rest of the debate bro army lol 😂

[@gskills55]

Who did you vote for last presidential election?

[@grimkhor]

Aged like a fine wine 😄

[@lastingcurs3233]

One thing I noticed about Vaush is he doesn’t have a sense of humor. And when he attempts humor, it’s really lame and comes across of contrived. I’ve never seen him laugh spontaneously. He strikes me as very mechanical and pedantic. He would probably make a great politician. Yes, Vaush is sinister.

[@ClaymanFlames]

He would be a prime spot on Twitter's Trust and Safety Council.

[@lordofsatire6829]

He would indeed

[@komfyrion]

I think he has a sense of humour, but I think those moments of sincere laughter are more likely to occur during casual parts of his streams when followers send funny memes and funny moments occur in the video games he plays. These parts of his streams are usually not turned into VODs and are quite different in tone from the segments that are intended to become VODs.

[@Caseyw462]

Him seeing Jocko Willink for the first time is hilarious. But, I do think he is a slimy douchebag

[@FullMetalPanicNL]

....I've seen him spontaneously laugh plenty of times....what you're saying is literally not true. He also clearly has a sense of humour. You just sound like a mindless hater if you make claims that are frankly easily disproven and frankly bizarre. Just look up an OkBuddy segment.

[@thisguy1397]

Felix never dressed as a Nazi. The Uniform he wore was British... you know, the ones that defeates the Nazis.

[@gravityguntv2572]

Still, the joke Pewdiepie was making with that uniform was that he is a nazi behind the scenes and that he accidentally left his camera on.

[@thehermit8618]

​@@gravityguntv2572he did it precisely as a gotcha to people saying he ways a nazi: chances are the people pearlclutching over him cant tell one military uniform from another no better than they can tell a serious but earnest goof on stream over genuine fascist sentiment

[@cymes82]

FYI, Kyle wasn't in possession of the gun while crossing state border.

[@justifiably_stupid4998]

That doesn't make a lick of difference to the border absolutists of the pragmatist left.

[@DeandreSteven]

No but there is a legal difference

[@michaelsorensen7567]

And NOBODY has brought up the convicted felon prohibited person ALSO carrying a gun. 🤷‍♂️

[@kingterry6045]

lol caring about gun laws. Those fellons sure didn't.

[@s0LLagal]

There's so much misinformation about that case, frankly. It's ridiculous

[@quakeknight9680]

This aged like Roman wine with 👧🐎 on his computer

[@falsehero2001]

"He has the perfect cadence and vocal tone for a psudo-intelectual." Well if that isn't the lard calling the butter fat.

[@RageCreati0n]

He is a tubby neck beard loser, after all. Wonder if he screams for mommy to make his tendies after his videos.

[@alihassan-ve3hw]

@@RageCreati0n he has lost alot of weight tbf but he's still dumb

[@stevem815]

Just started watching but what vaush does is a tactic I noticed with philosophytube too: Basically you give some kind of praise before you go in for the total bad faith strawman of your opponent. I think its supposed to create the illusion that you're a fair and balanced source who isn't driven by emotional derangement. Its such a creepy tactic.

[@seanevans6880]

The thing is, sincere debaters will do this too, and it's actually a respectable way to introduce a civil disagreement. And that's especially the case given there's always some degree of truth to an argument even when it's mostly bullshit. As you say though, the problem with these people is that they clearly do it as a guise to make it seem like their subsequent stream of lies and misrepresentations is actually coming from a fair place. It's the argumentative approach of weasely tyrants.

[@stevem815]

@@seanevans6880 Yeah, I guess that's why they do it. I don't know if it's drawing the circle too wide, but it seems to be a common tactic for this type of ideologue. Taking some kind of norm (even one as small as this) and using it's momentum to fuel the ideological movement until they've exhausted it's legitimacy and people start to see through it as a form and start reacting to the substance instead, then they move onto the next thing they can exploit, whether its Disney movies or debate tactics. I think its actually the same thing that cults and sociopaths do when they learn to manipulate the outward forms of collective and interpersonal relations. For normal people the end goal is the social relationship, for the sociopath it's just a means to get what they want. That's what happens with ideologues too, they don't much care about the thing in front of them, its only a means to reach their goal.

[@dotanon]

@@seanevans6880 The problem is, to differentiate between those two requires knowing the original intent, which is hard to prove.

[@angrymoths]

All this misinformation about police... Vaush needs to be held accountable

[@eoinh8425]

What misinfo about police?? specifically

[@CATAZTR0PHE]

Vaush implies that police enjoys kil.ling people. Starts at 1:22:40

[@red2theelectricboogaloo961]

@@eoinh8425 it was all over the place. he basically completely fucking dehumanizes police and makes them out to be a *literal* gang [his words, not mine] whose only purpose is to lynch people, and he vastly overplays the extent to which racism affects police behavior to an extent that to the eyes of many totally discredits the cops as an institution. in effect, he's making the police look way worse and making the problems that they have seem so big that there's left no other choice but to just abolish them and strip them entirely of all authority or jurisdiction. he's spreading that kind of misinfo.

[@epicslayerguy-hh3gi]

@@eoinh8425Laughing about a woman's mental breakdown because she's a cop and saying she wants racism back. I don't even like the police system, but that's pretty extreme.

[@novazero9008]

The cops do legit sucks still and their authority should be questioned also policing in low in come areas in disproportional and obviously doesn’t lead to lower crime rates

[@MasonShmason]

There's a reason why even Breadtube ignores Vaush

[@Rand00mThing]

Vaush is the type of Villain that talks an army of minions into existence, never getting his own hands dirty. He'd only attack if your back is facing him.

[@HYSXA2]

Vaush is a good example of an armchair general or it's other derivatives like armchair activist or armchair warrior. He can talk a big game behind the safe confines of his ivory tower but will cower when outside of it.

[@DeezN1892]

@@HYSXA2 just like right wing commentators?

[@RequiemOfAnguish]

@@HYSXA2 not entirely true. Armchair activists dont usually have an impact. He has a massive one, unfortunately

[@martinebonita2658]

This video actually helped me understand alot about what was wrong with the way I was thinking about politics. I think I understood there was something wrong, because I am incredibly unhappy all the time. So I was subconsciously looking for reasons to stop thinking this way. This video has been extremely helpful to me.

[@martinebonita2658]

@@doomermedia sort of, yes!! I mean, as a black person, I will always see the value in protesting, but apart from that and real life union work, I've started completely disengaging 💀💀 especially from kooky online discourse of any kind. My online feeds have started to become purely food and TV related.

[@red2theelectricboogaloo961]

@@martinebonita2658 yeah. honestly politics is so draining. i mostly watch food youtube.

[@retconned4092]

Glad someone compiled alot of this, but to be honest all you need to know about Vaush is to watch that one clip of him where he says- "I don't give a damn about principals, I WANT to WIN."

[@LlibertarianGalt]

that's the founding theory of critical race theory. Seems consistent to me.