Vaush & Leftists Are DEFENDING CP.

[@cooldrop02]

See these dudes are relaxing to clipped stuff and that's what they do, but this is very old, people taking the clips, from 1:00 to 2 hours streams, and running with it. This is similar to what Joe Rogan gets caught up with every time he pull something from the internet. Don't be like. Joe Rogan. Actually investigate.

[@AbaNPreach]

Ok so explain the context. You say its clipped and taken out of context so what is the context that is missing for "I dont think purchasing CP is immoral" or "Adults and kids can have mutually beneficial sexual relationships". What is the context for why he had CP on his computer? I'll wait.

[@mostblunted_211]

Doesn’t matter he said plenty of stuff there ain’t no coming back from.

[@noahokayama3825]

@FBI investigate this man @cooldrop02

[@ronswanson1410]

Even clipped this seems pretty damning

[@moffat5914]

you must be one of those pdf files

[@despain8726]

This is why I support free speech. People always tell on themselves. Just let them keep talking.

[@issac7787]

The "let them cook" but in different context.

[@icu3869]

YES. Shutting down and silencing those you don’t agree with is Not solving any problems- only hiding them, which makes them more dangerous and impossible to solve. Years ago my friend Tanisha took a rebel flag from our neighbors-and we had a big fight. Besides theft, vandalism, and proving bad stereotypes for those rednecks , she finally understood when I said “ if your little sister needed to run for help, should run to the house with the rebel flag? She said HELL NO! She’d know to stay away! And it finally clicked when I said , “ How would she know now? “

[@gr33dl0cknein3]

Real.

[@victorvandoomm]

Facts. Just let them talk.

[@bcj842]

@@issac7787 Let them cook their goose eh?

[@apache8795]

The worst part about this is the discourse has focused on "Look what anime made Vaush do!" instead of "Vaush is a fucking creep". Anime didn't make him do shit that man is just weird

[@TheDeadlyBlueWolf]

Nah anime is weird. You lying if you think anime doesn't contain all sorts of degen shit. Sincerely- An anime consumer.

[@apache8795]

@@TheDeadlyBlueWolf But it's not illegal, doesn't harm anyone and can't make anyone do anything. It's the same thing as saying video games causes real life violence. They're both just fiction

[@meatsacks1141]

​@@apache8795one is game that contains violence some thing present in most fiction one is contains a horse fucking a woman

[@nikopteros1659]

@@TheDeadlyBlueWolf obviously there's many corners of anime with foul crap, doesn't mean it made Vaush into the creep he is, that's pretty much what I got from the comment

[@sdbzfan1]

@@TheDeadlyBlueWolfconsumer and fan arent the same thing you tourist

[@sippinjuiceforlife3734]

Anyone who publicly defends CP should be investigated.

[@blackhawk3777]

These dumb mfers just exposing themselves as pedos it’s wild

[@phishdough]

What if it’s AI generated and it helps reduce cases of actual child grape?

[@SirYeetus]

Or get some whoopchipper justice. 😡

[@Saucytom]

What about privately?

[@coryflanery3244]

You spelled 'shot in the head' incorrectly.

[@dennisharry8408]

CP is NEVER a victimless crime. A child had to be harmed to create it. Therefore its dissemination encourages further harm to children. So yeah, paying for it or getting it for free is and should be illegal.

[@leevkop8229]

Exactly, even if there isn't a monetary reason for it there's still gonna be people who will call themselves "connoisseurs" and create/share for the sake of it

[@Neo2266.]

This will depend on the definition of porn though. Also what if the kid makes it themselves?

[@crystalchildi1113]

@Neo2266 No matter the creator of CP and the distribution of CP is all ILLEGAL even possession of CP is not only disgusting but its also Illegal!

[@Neo2266.]

@@crystalchildi1113 We're not talking legality though, are we?

[@faith4657]

Facts

[@Spira-Lynn]

This is wild. I used to work in a mens prison. I've met child molesters and individuals who got charged for the possession of CP. This man’s thinking is very similar to that of those inmates. He is dangerous.

[@keithremedy]

I can tell you with almost certainty this dude is suspect. I did time in the CDCR when I was younger and even tho all of cali segregates those inmates from the mainline (general pop) we do every once in a while find guys that land on our yard that ain’t supposed to be there. It’s funny Vaush even looks like the guy I remember at Delano even talks like him too. These types of weirdos always expose themselves they can’t help it. A normal person wouldn’t be trying to justify a absolutely insane position he’s completely delusional which most creeps are as it is

[@ahkoo83]

@@keithremedy Getting the same vibe. Looks, talks, and acts exactly like CP guys I've come across .... no worries though right? ITS ALL OUT OF CONTEXT! lol.

[@Aaron-kj8dv]

Tbh, whenever someone is accusing others of being something (gay, predator, drug addiction, etc.) all of the time it's pretty safe to say that it's a projection.

[@cheetahgirlfan32]

he is terrible!

[@mikemontgomery2654]

Yep! I’m legitimately disappointed in the fools that support people like this and try to explain their way out of any trouble that surrounds them.

[@irlshrek]

"it looks bad without context because it looks bad with context" died laughing

[@Videoandme1]

Quote of the year right there. We can go forward to 2025 right now

[@e69alpha]

​@@Videoandme1nah hold on we got 10 more months of fuckery to cha cha slide through abd I wanna see it all

[@joebe123]

That's got to be the biggest w for preach I've seen

[@ThePinkPearll]

It was pure bars on that line 😂

[@pablowall]

I laughed till I had tears in my eyes when arguing with a vaush fan about this the other day. The clarifying context : "he doesn't want to fuck a horse! He wants to be the horse and fuck a girl!" Like If that's any less fucking weird 😆 🤣

[@nickwells20]

Omg greatest line ever "its looks bad without context, because it looks bad with context" 😂

[@marlom7882]

And the more he talked the worse it got

[@mooncat3344]

I guess that we can say that it looks bad without context, and it looks even worse with context.

[@vowel8280]

dumbest line ever, anything can look bad without context, vaush was NOT defending CP in that clip

[@messo3843]

​​@@vowel8280But in this case, it looks bad even with context. Youre out here white knighting for a sweaty neck beard loser who had lolicon on his computer, imagine your friends or family saw this 😭

[@bobowon5450]

​@vowel8280 I've seen the full context. He was very much defending cp. He said he's never seen a good argument against cp. He's also very firmly called lolicon cp, and has a bunch of it on his computer. It's bad in context because vaush is an indefensible person

[@ariesrose5846]

To speak so highly of your own intellect, and then make an argument to justify and defend cp is insanity.

[@user-jw2if3ri5z]

Right Idk why people are acting like he’s so fking smart just because he says he is. No matter what he says it’s all negated by the fact that he’s a POS who should be on a registry

[@thomas.thomas]

some ideas are so insane, you have to be an intellectual to be able to fool yourself to believe in them

[@glock-kay]

@@thomas.thomas lmao

[@TurtleChad1]

"when asked if Vaush supports AOC, he said he'd prefer it be lowered.

[@culturalist]

Lol

[@jeffdredd1172]

Thats a solid joke 😂

[@grimm_comics]

🤣

[@mylespando5192]

That he stole lol

[@talyahr3302]

I honestly don't get it

[@trentroberts6736]

The fact that there are people who are still openly defending and agreeing with Vaush is disturbing to me.

[@pedrohenrique-et3fs]

evil people exist, this isnt right wing paranoia

[@kevintanza6968]

He is a commie. That's why. If he was right-leaning, they'd be saying he deserves to die.

[@davenunyabusiness4893]

tribalism...he is their tribe so he must be defended. if anyone else was saying this they would tear them to shreds. Democrats, Liberals, and Leftists have no shame in doing this...as long as its their team.

[@BaconNMegs]

And still claiming things are taken out of context when the context doesn't make it better.

[@LJohnson88]

@@davenunyabusiness4893are you serious? I assure you only Vaush and Keffals community defend this. All of us leftist think this shit is completely despicable and gross. That’s like me saying all right wingers defend cp cause that Trump guy that got in trouble for posting it on Twitter. Let’s stop making wild assumptions about the other side brother. It’s unproductive. We all agree pedos are weird and need to go.

[@knownothing111]

If the FBI doesn't raid that dudes house and take his hard drives then the system has failed.

[@The_Last_Data_Hound]

Or he is a plant.

[@Bladen1000]

The system has been fucked for awhile

[@BLTGVon]

Brother brother…. This system has been fucked since like the 60s lmao.

[@paulw5039]

For how many years did Epstein run his island? Some of the richest and most powerful people in the world were frequent visitors there. How many convictions have their been? The system is not only broken, it's controlled by these types of people.

[@Exandria]

They knew about jeffrey epstein for decades, and there were several heads of the FBI that were visitors. They aren’t touching vaush.

[@Telthar]

Vaush has 100% done this to himself. With anyone else if they had said so many "spicy" things over years, he would give them no benefit of the doubt (he has done this many times), now he is getting exactly what he deserves and not getting any benefit of the doubt.

[@bkid310]

"it looks bad without context because it's bad even with context" hit the nail on the head with this one.

[@CDofn]

To any parents out there. This is a reminder that the world is a sick and scary place especially on the internet. Protect your children

[@Zuzal66]

Louder for the normies who won't see this!

[@dandoo5657]

We know.....

[@Mieldeamapola]

Pizza gate is real

[@TheIsraelProphetess]

Keep in mind these are the same leftists that defended the movie cuties and bashed Sound of Freedom movie when it came out. The left is a cult of depravity.

[@icu3869]

How?

[@dovesechoo]

Preach lookin like a retired dad with 5 kids wearin those glasses

[@rafardzrba]

😂😂

[@thistles]

The new Mr Huxtable

[@Jaw-Knee]

“It looks bad without context because it looks bad WITH context.” Lmao outstanding.

[@Kenji-117]

The moment someone claims that his morals are rocksolid you can be 99% sure that it's the exact opposite.

[@mogulme6190]

How tf does that work??? Y’all just say dumb stuff

[@okgroomer1966]

Yep. Just like when people start by telling you how honest and truthful whatever they're saying is, they're lying. Honest or moral people don't have to qualify their actions or words.

[@okgroomer1966]

​​​@@mogulme6190It's just a generality of human nature and is true way more often than not. Watch the behavior panel if you want to see it in action with commentary to point it out.

[@mgs85]

That's such a weird thing to say. It's telling on yourself, your morals are not rock solid, firstly. And then secondly you believe everyone is like you. And finally lastly you don't believe people can have reflected about their morals, experienced enough in life or listened to other people to come to solid moral grounds. What, on anything? Listen, kids, for real, you need to spend way, way, way more of your time offline and around people. You have some deeply disturbed thought patterns from being locked in all the time. Not good Bruno, not good, and definitely, not for sharing!

[@bensmith9984]

@@mogulme6190People who brag about how morally virtuous they are for no reason are suspicious as f.

[@samstelly8815]

So if a child is sex trafficked but you don't pay for raping a child you're in the clear according to this dude. This dude is so comfortable discussing this you cannot tell me that he hasn't taken it further because he's already justified it.

[@Dementia.Pugilistica]

I wouldn't be remotely surprised if we get receipts coming out soon of girls who were underage that he sexted/cammed with on discord or even met up with and had sex and stuff. His hard-drive should be checked by FBI. It's ABSURD that he is still allowed on KZbin.

[@ccshredder9506]

Yep, exactly my thoughts. He's anticipating getting caught and will probably use these clips in his trial.

[@EbonyPope]

You create demand even if you didn't pay for it. But I have to defend Mr. Girl who said the girls in cuties are attractive. It's clipped and what he meant was that the movie portrays the girls in a way that makes them appear older than they are therefore trying to elicit a sexual response from people who otherwise are not into that stuff. Just like when a girl walks by you think is attractive but then realize she is way too young. Except this is intentional in Cuties. That is what he meant what the true intentions of the movie was. Make prepubescent girls attractive. And that is why he was against it. Pretty simple but if you don't see it in context you would think he is into that.

[@trollinator4838]

Watch his "The context video" which he uploaded a few days ago. You may understand then what he argued for.

[@mitchjames9350]

He uses other cop out excuses to justify CP by claiming due to sweatshops in the world than we should legalise cp until workers in poor conditions have better conditions. He is using pretentious arguments to justify CP.

[@ThatDjinn]

There's having lolicon folder and then there's criticizing lolicon saying it's real CP WHILE ALSO having a lolicon folder. It's not only his views, it's also the hypocrisy. Typical behavior of someone who has guilty conscience.

[@divinepekora5896]

Fr that's what made me super mad like bru

[@connor.chan.jazzman]

Yep, Vaush is a total hypcrite but more than that, he advocates for real CP

[@LUCAS420BLZ]

Like genuinely whatever your stance on Anime art and it being weird and having strange Niches him talking about Actual Cp and trying to establish a moral reason in arguments with context or without context is horrifying No amount of Context or backpedalling will save that man Even by his own logic he's a hypocrite because he said liking that art is actually CP so by his logic, his Put that man in jail Jokes aside someone needs to look into that man's devices

[@Chocolatemilkpro]

lolicon is cp

[@laisphinto6372]

@@LUCAS420BLZ its like when a dude whines about porn bad meanwhile being a 10 year premium customer subscriber to pornhub

[@01Lamen]

The actual amount of people defending Vaush wanting horse p and having lolly and defending CP the way he is. And then seeing the pin of shame and the chaos that unfolded upon that chat. I need a hug.

[@feliciab5019]

🤗🤗🤗

[@mart9177]

Welcome to 2024 brother. As long as you say the safe words that we all know you can be a pedophile and zoophillic weirdo because people have no criteria or thoughs of their own. Cheers!

[@ABc-nu6jb]

NOONE besides siccos would ever defend this sicco behavior. Never. Remember that when you see someone defending it and call the police

[@Amanda-j3y]

Love you. It's triggering I know. We gotta protect our babies out here fr.

[@inthedeadhours]

The fact that this brought Aba & Preach, Ethan and Vegan Gains together in some small way shows how wild it is.

[@Muniaczek90]

Even Keem agrees with Ethan, and you know that they been in beef for yeaaaaaars!

[@lancesmith4342]

Damn

[@RealVoxaire]

When a situation can bring enemies together. You know shit is fucked.

[@ropocat86]

Right, everyone can put their differences aside and agree this guy is on some wtf shit and probably needs to be removed from society.

[@cristiangaban960]

@@Muniaczek90 I might be wrong, but I remember some hentai artist drew Keem's daughter and got banned

[@ohgawd6495]

"My morals are rock solid" Yeah... so are those horses.☠☠☠

[@surfingbilly9654]

💀

[@THEBUGSAREBACCCCKKKKKKKKKK]

Brother mane! Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha legend

[@jjeverson2269]

It’s immoral to be as fat as Vaush is

[@nickb6425]

Very ironic that someone who’s name sounds like the french word for cow, wants to be a horse lol

[@deathsmbrace]

Vaush: Mr. Hands remake when?

[@LordBovyn]

This is the most caught in 4k situation I've seen in 2 years

[@femiolotu6482]

What happened 2 years ago?

[@benja303]

I really could have gone my whole life without learning about this 😂

[@Duh225]

Wait, what happened two years ago?

[@sandersndergaardiversen1110]

Cus edp?

[@Mr_barmitzvah]

what did you do 2 years ago pal...

[@gamma2816]

His argument is: If we have immoral thing 1, why not allow immoral thing 2 as well, y'all are hypocrites. And SURE looking at that PURELY through a logical lense it makes sense... BUT when you apply morals to it, you quickly realise how insanely stupid it is. It's stupid because 1 immoral thing is ok then we should introduce MORE immorality to be consistent? Why shouldn't we as humans strive to be LESS immoral? How about instead we go: Thing 2 ISN'T allowed so we SHOULDN'T allow thing 1 either. Instead? That way we get the same outcome of being morally consistent but instead of MORE people coming to harm via MORE immorality, we instead get LESS people hurt in a more civilised and sound world... No?

[@candideggplant1575]

He's too iq for us bro. We wouldn't understand how high iq his intelligent takes are on LITERAL CHILD PRN.

[@gamma2816]

@@candideggplant1575 🤣🤣🤣

[@Krzysiek9521]

"Sometimes people are so smart they're fkin stupid" - Aba, I'm impressed, great quote.

[@berkeliumk]

Is there any evidence that the pervert is actually smart? All I can see is a guy eating cheetos while playing computer games

[@Ray-b7r]

Why are you impressed? Who actually thinks Vaush is smart?

[@wely1100]

Question is, are you bozos smart enough to feel stupid?

[@defectiveindustries]

@@Ray-b7r His depressing -ly- -large- -audience- sycophants, which has a lot of overlap with Hasan's depressing -large- -audience- sycophants

[@TacseraEpSekahs]

Tbh it would be closer to truth like "Sometimes people believe in their smartness so much that they stop critical thinking all together"

[@idkijustgothere76]

"It looks bad without context because it looks bad with context" I'm carrying this for the rest of my life 🤣😂🤣😂

[@VMohdude-]

That legit makes no sense, literally anything can look bad without context.

[@beewest5704]

Yes what context do they think makes it better? Weirdos.

[@VMohdude-]

@@beewest5704 these are what we call “clipchimps” you really just cut out like 5 seconds from 20 minute conversations, don’t you think that’s bad faith?

[@angelon.8476]

⁠@@VMohdude-you aren’t getting the crux of the matter. For this instance, it looks bad without context AND STILL LOOKS BAD WITH CONTEXT !!!

[@oya4056]

​@@VMohdude-chimps who? So not only are you a pedo defender but youre also racist.... unbelievable

[@Jake-uk8sj]

Vaush: "if you like anime, then you are evil" Also vaush: "shes just a short stack goblin, its not a big deal guys"

[@ragegaze3482]

Yea its better to be inconsistent and do some bad things but not all bad things lol

[@metalheadjake3339]

Vaush:, "Racism BAD" Also Vaush: "Australianism is a disease" Vaush fans: "It's just a joke guys. Nor let me get angry at Bill Burr and Dave Chapelle making Edgy jokes" Even Ethan and Hasan fanbase are the same. Racism bad and then you look at their stream chats and its infested with people making racial remarks about white people, americans, Australians, Europeans, Jews etc etc etc. Same with the whole gender equality stuff. The people who advocate against sexism and for gender equality are normally spewing ridiculously hateful hottakes about men and boys.

[@Chuck_EL]

The CP is horrible but for the life of me I honestly can't understand why grown men like him like seeing cartoons even if they're adults having sex and doing porn It's always been gross to me at least porn addict watch real life adult porn

[@stardustdragonx3612]

@@Chuck_EL Wrong, porn addict will watch anything porn, don't get that twisted.

[@bruhverlybruh4012]

🤔 now I wanna see someone make goblins 6ft Amazonians. Goblin slayer would be Hella dif.

[@harz632]

"If you don't pay for it there is no moral argument against it" WHAT. THE. FUCK. There is like 100 reasons off the top of my head why that's still horrendous

[@leevkop8229]

The logic is that because you're not paying for it you're not feeding the production of it, but obviously there's hundreds of reasons why it's morally wrong

[@Gearshoot]

@@leevkop8229 yeah, cause your traffic proves that there's a market for it. So they will make more, and make worse, in hopes of making something worth your money. timeline go brrrrrr

[@leevkop8229]

@@Gearshoot exactly

[@thomas.thomas]

@@Gearshoot even if you disregard that, there still is the problem that you are hurting that victims reputation and honor by being one additional person that has seen them in such a horrible situation that they wouldn't want anyone to see them.

[@deleteduser3455]

Yeah like I was thinking about that trying to think In good faith but at best it's someone enjoying something where someone was harmed for the exact purpose of making it. So no matter what it's bad even if it's not directly funding predators it's still morally wrong

[@P.G.Wodelouse]

"it looks bad without context because it looks bad with context" is the perfect line.

[@ali1774]

Preach stairing at Aba like an auntie at the beginning is fucking hillarious

[@AfricanManEnlighten]

that shi had me in tears ngl. preach always getting assaulted with these topics lmao.

[@melaninqueen1286]

Ngl I cackled

[@radrose4864]

That was a beautiful moment 😂

[@jfarmer1776]

Child porn is not a thing. The word porn implies some consent which the child cannot give. The better term is child rape videos. They are for child rape, they are evil.

[@dirtydead4144]

Pornagraphy is just sexual content doesn't have anything to do with consent

[@wasdwasd609]

I don't think you know the definition of porn.

[@Epic-so3ek]

Yes the correct term is CSAM

[@Twyzan]

I think the word already has a huge weight attached to it. I get more of a visceral reaction from hearing cp than I do your suggestion.

[@sirsurnamethefirstofhisnam7986]

I’m just surprised this comment hasn’t been auto-deleted by KZbin for the words in it.

[@Knauchs]

bro I'm more shocked that he just out here talking like that and the cops are investigating him. Is the FBI investigating him? Man this crazy.

[@Crono2077]

Vaush has way too many clips of talking about CP, defending it, so even if he would say he accidently downloaded loli pics he already prepared his own CP grave before that.

[@Dickinabox]

He also called Loli vtubers Nazis and anyone who watches Lolis a Nazi. Therefore vaush is Nazi.

[@TurtleChad1]

He thought they were goblins stop being bad faith.

[@beewest5704]

​@@TurtleChad1Would you let him babysit your kids?

[@Splatter5524]

You mean a goblin with regular ears and dark skin? What kinda goblins have you seen?​@@TurtleChad1

[@LJohnson88]

I’m a leftist my man and the moment I saw Vaush I said something was off about him and I never followed him. That goes for a lot of us. Dudes got mad predatory vibes

[@ignaciounzaga6733]

I agreed that there are some grey or controversially moral topics that we should discuss from all sides. This isn't one of them. CP is not acceptable in any context.

[@marlom7882]

Yea thank you exactly. CP is pure 100% bad no ifs, ands, or buts about it whatsoever

[@vowel8280]

which is why, if you watch the full debate you will see that he was NOT defending CP in any way

[@marlom7882]

@@vowel8280 oh… well my bad then

[@vowel8280]

@@marlom7882 just watch the debate, he was NOT defending CP at any point, the guy who was debating was defending abolishing child labor laws

[@lljonhll]

I read an article saying some police groups uses CP (they use videos of past operations) to gain trust of these people and destroy their groups. I think it's fair in those cases but it's highly questionable, imagine your kid getting exposed like that by the people that should protect them. Really hard situation.

[@thelawyerchad]

Some of us warned about a slippery slope. I told everyone that people would OPENLY call CP normal and good. It's a minority of voices, but here it is.

[@dolanduk7946]

pretty much the average leftist at this point

[@Not_a_witch]

We are headed down the way of the Greeks

[@leftistnpc5417]

Yep. From "letting" gays get married to openly praising CP within 15 years. We need an outright ban of homosexuality like they have in Qatar. CP = wood chipper Gay = ostracized

[@chilltarts]

@@Not_a_witch we’re already there, fam. We’re already there.

[@mateogubich969]

@uk7946 he is a liberal who supports israel, not a leftist, a real leftist youtuber called him out before anybody else did (badempanada), in america leftist means being pro lgbt voting democrat and supporting the military and cia funding or commiting genocides or war crimes, also the goverment caring about corporations and not the average american worker, basically anybody that would be considered right wing in most parts of the world is a leftist for us standards because the support obama and gay rights. im more of a leftist and i slighty prefer trump over any other mainstream american politician, because atleast his protectionist policies are better than the free market ones for the average american worker, i would definately vote for him, the problem is that he supports free market in other countries and obviously the cia will keep doing coups, operations to imprison politicians, and tapping phones of other democratically elected presidents that dont go according to us interests (the cia backed operation that put lula current brazilean president in prison, even tapping dilma rouseff phone, a lot of publicly available information, but thats tipical cia stuff around history, the same organization that killed kennedy and martin luther king), and will keep funding or commiting human rights abuses around the world, and apart from that of course there are things to criticize of donald trump. but he definately is better than biden or obama. The only more or less mainstream politician better than trump is of course bernie sanders but he will get the kennedy treatment if he ever reaches office, trump might get imprisoned or killed as well but its less likely, since he doesnt go against the establishment that hard. the common americans keep being divided by left vs right basically meaning gays vs christians, blacks vs whites and those types of futile dumb discussions on american mainstream instead on focusing about improving the life of all american citizens and establishing a nationalism of inclusion that works to get a better life for all americans, also of course a goverment that doesnt see the lifes of non american citizens as valuable would be important, but your goverments dont care that much about the common american so theres very little hope for that.

[@elchamacoduro]

Totally unrelated, but I gotta admire how many different styles Preach rocks. He pulls off every single one too. Man knows real style, way better than whatever the hell ppl be calling “fashion” today

[@derekwray2486]

"It looks bad without context, because it looks bad WITH context" preach is cooking 😂

[@tk0pilot]

Litterally looked at comments as they said this 😂 fire

[@Eye_Of_Odin978]

That's what I'm saying lmao How can this be re-framed to "look good" in any way? I don't think it can.

[@JpBoudreaux]

Any person who makes any kind of argument to defend CP or p3d0 activities should have their devices immediately seized and searched.

[@kkokay4]

Facts

[@tubblestop414]

I don't see the problem with cp if it's drawings. Its no different from people who depict violence in drawings but we don't assume them to be blood thirsty killers.

[@yaren8251]

@@tubblestop414 check this guy's devices

[@JpBoudreaux]

@@tubblestop414 you honestly just typed that comment and posted it for all to see?

[@tubblestop414]

@@JpBoudreaux Yep. We can have a debate if you want.

[@leandermeinken9015]

"It looks bad without context, because it looks bad with context" what a banger of a quote.

[@theturtle5093]

Couldn’t he be busted for possessing CP off that video alone? How’s this man not in jail?

[@walruz011]

if its animated or art it doesnt count

[@Jesei1211]

It’s not CP. As much as I hate that guy and that art style if we start putting people in jail for having art on their computer where does it stop? There are artist on twt and other art apps drawing lolis and shotas. Should they go to prison too?

[@jaredgamerfreak4749]

@@Jesei1211 Yes they should. next question

[@Colby-yg7nj]

There's a difference between art and depicting child porn. If i take two animated characters that are both 12 years old and make sexual art depictions of them. THAT IS CHILD PORN

[@TOBY-jy7bz]

​@@Colby-yg7nj Child porn involves children in it. A drawing is not a kid, it's a drawing for fuck's sake

[@kikikim4589]

Preach face after ABA asked him about horse unholy activity is priceless

[@moistpalm4937]

Not sure if you just have the same pfp, But I feel like I see you everywhere man

[@alternativejk90]

Vaush: “I think a child and adult can consent to seggg….” Us: “Hello FBI…”

[@xgunfiltered7601]

I am waiting for a criminal minds episode inspired by him.

[@Epic-so3ek]

“Why don’t you take a seat”

[@blaxpoitation8528]

We've identified the unsub..

[@David-fi9yu]

People get way too comfortable on the internet and forget there's still consequences for your actions.

[@briandonovan1584]

Remember Amos Yee who got asylum in the US over free speech in Singapore. Then he defended sex with children including infants. Next he was convicted of CP possession and child grooming.

[@Hautenani]

It’s because they link up with other weirdos who embolden them

[@briandonovan1584]

@@HautenaniCorrect.

[@David-fi9yu]

@@Hautenani Bad people tend to corrupt or attempt to corrupt others to their side as to not seem bad or to normalize what they do or want to do. This is something we're seeing a lot of people who are clearly not good people do nowadays.

[@NOMUMFEL]

EXXXAAACCCTTTTLLLLYYYY

[@paperbag4477]

This is the same guy who said pewdiepie is a Austrian painter fan bc of the “many times he was associated with the alt right”. Yet it’s bad faith to Vaush fans when we apply this same idea to Vaush & Cheese Pizza 😬

[@ultramagodofwar2153]

I grew up in east L.A. i remember as a kid their was a white man that tried to convince us kids to have a slumber party at his house. So we told some of the Latin kings about that man. Never saw him again. Now that I'm older feel the same way.

[@matterking1]

That's crazy, but glad you and the others were safe. Gangsters really hate pdf files

[@ultramagodofwar2153]

@@matterking1 the 90s was a different vibe

[@Mieldeamapola]

Street Justice

[@Veracityseeker7]

👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

[@ultramagodofwar2153]

Abba and preach can't support it but glad you feel about this topic. The story is worse he did things to me. Why they got involved. But I'm a survivor

[@WillofDD]

I find it vindicating after calling out Vaush for calling anime and loli fans pedos *while* defending CP (the thing that hurts actual children) the mainstream is finally catching on. Anime fans been pointing that out for years.

[@jfkonlsd1364]

95% of anime is a sickness

[@-lord1754]

As a Xenoblade 2 fan I couldnt be happier 🤣

[@pufflord_gamesonicsoloesyo2365]

@@jfkonlsd1364 Cough I think he may be right

[@jfkonlsd1364]

the amount of loli defenders online its truly a scary thing to think about.

[@pufflord_gamesonicsoloesyo2365]

@@jfkonlsd1364 The amount of you idiots who parade around about a topic you don't understand nor care about is what's actually scary. And "Loli" and "Lolicon" are two different things. Some people use loli or shota to cope with their traumas as well. But god forbid people have an easier time with life. Those real children? Nah let em fend for themselves! Those fake ones tho? The ones that look nothing like a real person? Defend them with your life!!!

[@emekamonyei2158]

Bruuuhhh, that guy's laptop MUST be confiscated by the federal authorities!!!

[@cheetahgirlfan32]

ASAP!

[@nickgonzalez7114]

It won't because he's a lefty. This is the right have been trying to warn everyone about the left for years

[@patricklewis9787]

Bruuuuhhhh this guy would be hired by the federal authorities if they found his laptop

[@arokwanguo-set]

seriously!

[@TheThumbBreakers]

That will never happen since he is getting it from them🤷🏽

[@sugartoothYT]

Here's what you wanna do when people start to press you on your weird fetishes: you don't. Nothing. Don't try and justify it. Even if you think you have reasoning behind it, you will sound really freaking weird. It can be funny in safe spaces with friends because it can be used for comedy, but that's about it.

[@kayhaich]

That would be an intelligent response...he wants to show he has nothing to hide and is therefore pure in his morals

[@cold4882]

No matter what context, what language, what part of the earth, what timeline we are on, what parallel universe, anything sexual involving children is never, ever going to be tolerated. I’m a peaceful person but this kinda thing id take up arms for.

[@ema3287]

Reminding me of that southpark episode

[@White-Rockz]

No one who says they're peaceful are peaceful

[@fyrebat404]

@@White-Rockz peaceful is a state, like sleeping. saying so is a request not to wake them

[@BaronShawThiessen]

@biscoitomolhado3641 Good morning baby boy. Post local.

[@laylah150]

Soo😢😢z , io9mn yttuke M​@@White-Rockz

[@lulu_749]

“No, but the way he’s holding onto that, it’s more than that.” Exactly. Look, regardless of whether I agree with a commentator or not, I can recognize that when you film yourself talking for years there are bound to be a couple of weird takes or downright terrible comments made. Apologizing and moving on is one thing. The way Vaush has been religiously holding onto this horrific stance for YEARS, often times doubling or tripling down on it….yeah, the man is probably a predator trying to erode the societal boundaries we have set in place concerning children, so that one day, he can finally have access to his prey without the stigma and repercussions. It’s disturbing and honestly sickening how he still has a sizable group of left leaning followers after he’s made clear over and over again that he is a cp defender.

[@paulkaehn6203]

Well I doubt that he has many followers left after this

[@snapplegu6100]

It's not surprising when that side does literally support those things, from the founding literature. I hope one day people seriously read what queer theorists wrote and still do today, they're all sick. I can't even say more because of YT censorship. Postmodernists were all about perversion of everything, modern leftist philosophy is literally all about this. Their activists time and time again are exposed for not just being passive but passionately engaging in this topic and promoting it.

[@harambe4267]

@@paulkaehn6203 You underestimate his fanbase. Dude makes a living being utterly wrong and dishonest, and the more wrong and dishonest he is, the harder they cheer for him.

[@TheKeefeStone]

@@paulkaehn6203 454Thousand subs on YT, 100Thousand followers on twitch, don't know how many of that 100k pay him, but I'm betting at least half. And mind you, this is Not a new revelation, people have been pointing out and making videos about his diddler ways for YEARS.

[@potentiallyRealWarrenGraham]

What exactly has he doubled down on?

[@Russian_Waifu]

"A child and an adult can have a healthy relationship." - Ian 'Vaush Hold her tighter, she's a fighter' Kochinski

[@dadistos4538]

Another comment botting turtle channel, weird.

[@SpiffidyKeen]

That statement alone made my skin crawl. This guy is UNREAL.

[@cooldrop02]

It was meant to make you cringe because of the conversation he was having with the person.

[@JamalMack]

Ian ‘Vaush she maybe 9, but damn she’s fine’ Kochinski

[@Victhemighty]

''but muh context''

[@QuietGuitaristfan]

Violence is never the answer. It's a question, and the answer is yes.

[@Amanda-j3y]

In this case 💯

[@Goredom-]

I think the funniest thing in all of this is that Vaush keeps his taxes folder in his CP folder.

[@RileyByrdFlock]

Probably to easily delete incriminating material

[@CheapGodiva]

You're missing the fact that he simply named his CP "taxes" to hide it.

[@Goredom-]

@@CheapGodiva Nah bro had a photo of his ID in there. The folder ain't hiding anything, it's literally in the same folder as his CP folder, surrounded by multiple CP folders and pictures. Don't give him more credit than he deserves, nothing was hidden. XD

[@Woozy.0]

When mixing work with play goes wrong

[@user-bn1lb8ey9v]

nah it was his "to be sorted" folder or something like that. which implies that there is a *bigger* porn folder.

[@princesslialeiav4925]

"It looks bad without context because it looks bad WITH context" - Preach 😂😂😂

[@TheBunnyBunz]

🎯

[@Leprutz]

thats a meme right there.

[@andrewunderwood4570]

CP purchasers should be behind bars. Vaush should speak to actual survivors of child abuse and see how beneficial they think and feel their abuse was. Why is he still allowed a platform?

[@CloudSephiroth]

🗣️THIS IS A SIIIIIIIIIICKNEEEEESSSS!!!!!!!

[@vonnie0_0]

OF DA HIGHEST ORDA!!! 🗣🗣🗣

[@berniepina860]

It really is

[@Mfwiseguy]

It is DEVIANT, therefore we do not want it

[@rockerguy9683]

Man anyone who ever tries to justify CP should be heavily investigated and thrown in prison just as a precaution.

[@vowel8280]

he was NOT justifying CP, watch the damn debate ffs

[@mr_spartan2413]

@@vowel8280he did tho on several occasions, if he isn’t outright demonizing it that’s a problem in itself

[@vowel8280]

@@mr_spartan2413 No he did not at any point, I watch allot of his streams and at no point he ever justified CP, expecially the debate where that clip was taken from, again watch the full debate, he only used the CP as an extreme example of why child labor laws are a good thing against someone who wanted those laws to be abolished

[@mr_spartan2413]

@@vowel8280 then why does he have several files of loli shit

[@vowel8280]

@@mr_spartan2413 I will be honest, I am not familiar with those files or the context of them so, unlike aba and peach I'm not going to comment on that, but I can guarantee you 100% he was NOT defending CP in that clip But based on how well this video is researched I am justified in assuming that those files are just BS to

[@lalalovengun]

I wish people would leave children alone and not project their pathetic fantasies onto innocent defenseless beings. People who prey on children are the epitome of intrinsic failure.

[@cheetahgirlfan32]

absolutely!

[@tonygaertner8863]

Liberals. Call it like it is. It’s liberals. Sick af people

[@MrRDRII]

Vaush is the type to say that it’s not immoral to buy CP, but then say it’s immoral to buy Chick-Fil-A sandwiches.

[@dreasdwolfox3435]

For how deep he's into horses and wants to be one, you'd think he could carry himself in a "stable" manner

[@bagelxxbutter592]

Zing 😂

[@aleksandarpolak]

I wanna like this so bad, but you have 69 likes already and it would be a sin for me to ruin that 😂

[@proxymohawk2933]

16:58 Having a “To be sorted” folder implies there are other “sorted” folders…

[@prisoncommie8601]

The images hav been sourced on X. The thumbnail to a porn folder is loli, which means he had already reviewed that one and decided to save it.

[@Megan6772]

cp is not only immoral bc of the harm inflicted on the child, but it's tacitly immoral because it's a CHILD, who is innocent and naive and shouldn't be seen in a sexual way. they should be protected. the fact that he doesn't realize that is the true problem.

[@deeky1239]

@user-jb1lh5uo4m incel?

[@ContentClipCentral]

​@user-jb1lh5uo4m yup, the prawn industry just plays into schecklezuising kyds (i'd say 90% of cases of step-something, teenage BS, etc. videos are adult women, but it's still oh SO wrong) and then these weirdos come up on our timelines defending CP.. and it is getting worse and worse.. STOP WATCHING IT PPL! PRAWN = BAD

[@AnEnemyAnemone1]

You just said “it’s not only immoral due to the harm inflicted, it’s bad because of these other things (which are bad because of the harm caused).” You didn’t say anything. If you want to avoid looking like a morally shallow, incurious idiot who isn’t even following the broader conversation, you might want to familiarize yourself with common ethical frameworks and philosophical concepts like consequentialism. Right now, you aren’t capable of having an opinion on the subject.

[@Yoshiecatattck]

@user-jb1lh5uo4mno, we’re talking about how many young girls starting at the age of 10 or 11 get cat called, sexualized, and approached by grown adults which is immoral and disgusting.

[@sanguinesr0se]

@user-jb1lh5uo4mwhat? That has nothing to do with the original comment.

[@RedRoninGM]

“My moral principles are rock solid!” … Nah bruh… You’re just… messed up. And should have the biggest restraining order of all-time. Or just jail.

[@jeremiahnoar7504]

Never has "Dis is a sickness" been so relevant. That's exactly what it is and it's not new. The French intellectuals in the 19th and 20th century defined lewd acts with minors before. It always comes back.

[@WeWereTheStorm]

Dey put de hand in de anoose

[@gamera5160]

This is a sickness and I don't think we're very good at treating it.

[@izzylandyt]

That quote gonna be a trending hashtag 😅

[@edthewave]

Of course, the Jacobins, leftists, Marxists, postmodernists, etc. are almost all moral degenerates. No surprise when you really dig into what they espouse. Vaush is no different, really. Hardly anything surprises me anymore these days.

[@JD-vh5hj]

@jeremiahnoar7504 Michael Foucault came to mind: “Sorman claims that while Foucault was living in Tunisia in 1969, Sorman visited him at Easter and witnessed young boys, between the ages of eight and ten, running after Foucault, with Foucault showering them with cash and arranging to meet them at 10pm at a cemetery, where Foucault then raped them on the gravestones.”

[@sportyeight7769]

Any people calling themselves a genius mastermind and calling their morals "rock solid" must be avoided or investigated

[@jakestaheli8532]

He later admits himself that he has no principles. Actual quote from vaush: "You call it selling out your principles, I call it fucking winning. Because it's my job to WIN, as a socialist, not to LOSE, as a socialist." He has no principles, I don't even think he truly believes in the ideology he parrots, as he will go through all methods, whether it be taking others out of context, strawmanning them, poisoning the well, to make others look bad.

[@Nylon_riot]

Actual geniuses don't tell people they are geniuses. It isn't even a valid measurement, it just measures how smart you are for the length of the test. Hawking himself called it bunk. Most geniuses end up with mental health or sociial issues because of how they are treated by society. It is like being a serial killer: everyone talks and is fascinated by you, but nobody actually wants to be around you. Because true intelligence doesn't have to tell you they are intelligent. I sided with the left on some workers rights issues, but as a child victim myself, when they started claiming that peedos should be given a space because "they can't help it and should be studied"; and I said as a victim that there is no exception, they called ME crazy. I also pointed out their hypocrisy that the Italians were even more persecuted than current immigrants, and nationals were put in concentration camps and are also a minority, the response was a candid " there aren't enough to matter." These people prove themselves to be predators with every passing day.

[@Dilanwalters]

Preach looking like a doctor and secret agent

[@apache8795]

Professor Preach

[@mider-spanman5577]

Agent Doctah Priest Preach

[@bleeem]

Also looking like my grandma

[@TheLaurieJi]

Looking like a black Bruce Wayne

[@A.l.a.c.]

He's Clark Kent protecting his secret identity. Kkkk

[@sirmr.mansavage]

I've always enjoyed Aba's Ugandan/African accent, mostly because when the accent is pulled out the language he actually speaks is facts. *THIS IS A SICKNEEEEESS!*

[@jbrown7490]

Someone call Chris Hansen on this man

[@vicegripp]

Expeditiously.

[@chantillycolwilly]

Yessss!!!!

[@doomknight2]

Chris Hansen has publically stated for people to stop contacting him over this kind of material. "Please stop sending me links to cartoon porn. I find it distasteful but it's not relevant to my work"

[@kenosabi]

Have a seat. Just have a seat over here. 🤣

[@kenosabi]

Yeah he's also publicly stated he thinks CP should fall under "freedom of speech" and that there is nothing wrong with Loli ...which is also pretty ironic coming from a guy that's all for censoring anyone he disagrees with under the guise of "saftey". Find someone worth your energy and care. This ain't him chief.

[@kazzmack9385]

when I saw the thumbnail I thought CP stood for "capital punishment "... now im here ... wow!! this is sick

[@ayakid921]

I thought it meant Chris Paul 😭😭

[@firefly9838]

CP is involves human children... these are Japanese cartoon drawings... to even pretend they are even remotely the same thing is to lie.

[@F_Dot_]

It also took me a while

[@aleashacasarez855]

Child videos and capital punishment go hand in hand imo, so you're not wrong exactly

[@Testicool96]

Vaush is deserving of it, sooo...

[@SaucySkater]

Preach with the glasses is 🔥🔥🔥

[@osamabinliftin8632]

The distinguished man, who will still box your lights out yelling obscure curses lmao

[@saiyanc137]

It’s giving old school wise uncle at the backyard barbecue.

[@Alecexo]

It gave sophisticated

[@anonisnoone6125]

A distinguished gentlemen if I do say so myself. 🧐

[@fmjjjjn7510]

This is definitely the first time he’s worn glasses in a video and he looks great

[@Snake-vr2ky]

Legit one my new favourite channels. Don’t know how I came about you guys but so happy I did. Can’t stop watching.. legit hooked, love all your takes

[@seand.3085]

"This is a siiiiickneeeessssssssssss!" Kills me every fkn time, I'm on my 90th life or somethin. 🤣😂🤣😂☠☠☠☠

[@Barkbatosu]

It is deviant. And we do not want it.

[@bcj842]

You wanta the hoss cack eeh?

[@rasheedslypoet9862]

FOR REAL XDD

[@BoofDoofus]

Agreed, it’s my favorite part of any video it makes an appearance in

[@ErikHederberg]

Of the highest order!

[@badazzmuffin5781]

I'll never scoff at a super conservative saying "It's a slippery slope. You can go too far being tolerant" Again....

[@leevkop8229]

Any idea can go wrong if you go extreme. The idea that left ideologies cannot be harmful is very dangerous for this specific reason. Blind tolerance is ignorance

[@KiraBKADestroyerOfWorlds]

Yes, that is true. Also, that doesn't mean don't be tolerant.

[@GoulagInamte777]

@@KiraBKADestroyerOfWorldsThere are some things that are intolerable tho 100%

[@joshpeterson2147]

hit the nail on the head at the end there. He thinks he’s explaining everything away with perfect justification but really just confirmed himself as a creep….

[@imr.madness]

Like I can’t even hear bruh he just nasty asf

[@placate9051]

His community and him keep crying "out of context" and don't realise the new context is the folder leak😂 Like how hard is it to understand that new information will make people re-evaluate old information 🤦

[@lukeshioshio]

​@@placate9051 his community suffers from immense brain rot

[@dolanduk7946]

most sane leftist

[@alexiz0013]

​@@placate9051 Exactly, lmao! 🤷🏽‍♀️

[@shannsimms9072]

Ok I swear TO GOD. I worked in strip clubs for YEARS. And at my home club the woman that was CONSISTENTLY the highest earner was in her 50’s. I SWEARRRR to you. And I understand why she was. She was incredible.

[@heavenbent4pleather83]

You might wann chill out on that whole swear to God thing. Same for all these kids saying “on God”

[@Dice-Z]

@@heavenbent4pleather83 on god, brother

[@flowerbloom5782]

Vaush was right about one thing, as a culture we haven’t discouraged this sexualization of little girls. Unfortunately, we are seeing a lot of dirty laundry of the entertainment industry defending pdf files. ( dan Schneider) I mean I wouldn’t be surprised to hear a disgusting club in a far away island with younger girls cause of these Rich sickos have so many connections to industries. I am so disillusioned that real pdf files are trying to normalize their behavior and we are allowing them to.

[@amethysting3389]

aint no way he called anime fans pdf files but got caught being accepting of ACTUAL CA and CP is crazy.

[@sekiro_the_one-armed_wolf]

Nigga didn’t even “get caught” he’s been openly saying this shit for years and for some reason it only came to bite him in the ass when he showed the fuckin crayola scribbles he downloaded. Shit has taken way too fuckin long I’ve been saying this for years.

[@albatross4920]

Hypocrites gonna hypocrite I guess 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@StretchtoYourHeart]

Cause too many anime fans defend lolicon and it's fuckin true a huge swathe of the anime community says shit like 'it just a drawing' when it comes to Loli

[@awatcher4965]

He did that shit long before trying to call out lolicons for their disgusting behavior. It dosnt absolve anime fans of anything, just that what they're consuming is a lesser evil. It's literally a "lefty twitter" thing to call out lolicons. The biggest lolicon defender, rev, is a huge proponent of calling out "woke" behavior, constantly saying it's a western mindset to be harsh on lolicon material

[@flowerbloom5782]

And he wants to be horse and fuck said anime girls. This guy hurts my brain man.

[@griff3683]

OKAY, YOU GOT ME... "It looks bad without context because it looks bad with context." Now THAT IS CLASSIC.😂😅

[@TCR2025]

Man they need to get someone to check that man’s hard drive and search history, immediately!!

[@WeiderMystic]

Vaush is the type of guy who would rationalize heinous acts just to go against whoever he is arguing with.

[@blakeunderwood1075]

Over intellectualism. The death of good heartedness. Into maniac.

[@sabin97]

vausch(i spell it with sch so it sounds german, because i associate him with ww2 germans) is not an intellectual of any kind. he just has a radio voice and anything he says sounds smart to his followers.

[@williamhanna9718]

Faux left wing intellectualism is a cancer on society

[@medoz7331]

i mean i hate vaush as anyone here but germans were not known for being open pdfiles or degenerates, they were quite the (extrem) opposite tbqf, i mean they gased people like vaush in an instant. If you wan't to associate it with "MOST EVIL SHIT IN MY MIND" - which is reasonable - why not associate with some modern evil people like the WEF? ;D

[@gamera5160]

I'd say the evil comes first and then the over intellectualizing comes later to justify it.

[@medoz7331]

someone deleting comments

[@mr_0n10n5]

Vaush saw the bar in hell and brought a shovel. The man is completely lost

[@greatime15]

What a line! I'm taking that one.😂

[@enthiegavoir5955]

Well, Hell is an Irish bar after all, fitting given what he did under hid old "IrishLaddie" handle (one of which was harassment of a girl in his discord)

[@tommytheg7911]

16:00 even tho English isn’t his native language, preach never fails to come up with some clever play on words

[@samibenabdallah3659]

For real man, its brilliant

[@PixelPusher1]

I wouldn't say never

[@tommytheg7911]

@@PixelPusher1 wasted my time and yours with this one

[@PixelPusher1]

@@tommytheg7911 do you want compensation?

[@lightfang153]

"It looks bad out of context cause it looks bad with context" BAARRSSSSSSS

[@Rairyuujin]

This is why it’s so important to try and lead a balanced life. Take the good from the right and the left and forge something that does not cause suffering while rejecting the absolute BONKERS ideological takes from both.

[@alexiz0013]

Absolutely. Couldn't agree more 💯 🤷🏽‍♀️

[@leevkop8229]

Yeah it's really saddening to see the world polarizing and people only thinking in two extremes rather than trying to come to the best solution together

[@nimloc1670]

Amazing take. I wish more people would

[@LilyKatina]

Yeah, that honestly WOULD solve a lot more problems. So many people these days either fall entirely on one side or the other and claim it’s perfect when neither of them are. Both the left and the right are equally flawed in their own ways but also have their own useful ideas. I personally take opinions from both depending on individual topics/situations I come across.

[@aliciasavage6801]

The worst thing about Vausch is that he has an audience. That people actually like him, agree with him, listen to him.

[@bobsacamano8041]

EXACTLY

[@ptreznov240]

Thankfully most of his audience ain’t outside

[@fritzco55]

100% an indictment on the decline of our society.

[@headacheimperial1999]

My auntie always said to me "being open minded is good, being empty minded isn't"

[@heavymetalmusichead4969]

An 80's Christian singer named Steve Taylor had a lyric that goes "you're so open minded that your brain leaked out." I think about that line more and more often every year. 😄🤢

[@LaserAgentRyan]

7:35 the thing is all diamonds are blood diamonds because a company has a monopoly on diamonds and they use child labor and such to mine for diamonds and then inflate the price by saying they’re rare when actually they aren’t that rare

[@mrgrunkyeggdog806]

There are many harmless options to get a Diamond, there is no harmless or ethical way to get Cp, hate these guys with their strawman arguments

[@BillRevis]

Marxists love making excuses for evil consumption.

[@peaceout41]

Not defending, but I think it's a drawing. Basically what he had was hentai, basically Cartoons. If you look up normal hentai. It's high schoolers most of the time since its main demographic is high schoolers to buy or watch. It's from Japan where this stuff is sold openly. I think that is how step-bro and step-sister started up. But in Hentai it's actual bro and sis in the manga. It goes from Gore porn of cutting up people to a Fictional Insect person with a vagina that looks like a spider. Asmongold Twitch streamer which is not left or right, had an argument on this. He is not for it and it is illegal to have. The arguments put forth are more moral sensibilities and have no standing since we stake on violence in video games does not correlate with violence IRL. Watching graphic violence does not cause you to be violent. Then any future arguments about what is done fictionally will correlate with real life and cause harm IRL. Women main form of porn searches is Grape from last time I read about it. The same can be said for, in those adult websites. It encourages that act.

[@retiredtidepodeater3339]

I mean, if we're being TECHNICAL..... As disgusting as it is, you could technically create CP using A.I. where there are no actual children used lol. Morally abhorrent? Yes. Illegal? Yes... But TECHNICALLY there's no actual harm to a child, per say." Ethical" can be too subjective to argue about although I personally agree it's unethical.

[@tramarthomas6105]

Yeah this for guy and Destiny are weirdos, they make the exact same arguments

[@Daltoniss]

@@retiredtidepodeater3339 For that to happen you'd have to upload pictures of real children into the AI's database, therefore creating a direct link between a real minor and AI generated corn. Even if the pictures coming out don't really look like the original image I would still call that material CSEM since its creation involved real minors.

[@uffevonlauterbach]

Vaush is a PDF file. I'm surprised he's not even in prison.

[@RestorativeWaves123]

I wish they could ALL be..

[@Manic_Panic]

He works for the state department, he won't be arrested.

[@EnZo7992]

When being an “intellectual” goes wrong 💀

[@RestorativeWaves123]

as it tends to so often

[@Nammjahtan]

Well to be fair in order to be a intellectual you first need intellect.

[@firstnamelastname5612]

Don't ask european philosophers what law they were campaigning to change in the 70's

[@olli3686]

Vaush suffers terribly from Dunning-Kruger

[@kurokamei]

He is just following his politics philosophy's ancestors, Foucault and his ilks. They too think right and wrong is subjective, and sexual relationships between an adult and a child should not be banned.

[@divinechord7]

Love those glasses on Preach, ya look real sophisticated bruv

[@murph7421]

Context is very important to Vausch all of a sudden.

[@Raidoven]

Exactly

[@deeky1239]

But context makes him look worse 😂

[@vowel8280]

@@deeky1239 because you have not seen the context

[@mrclean9513]

@@vowel8280what is the context? In what situation could what he said he seen as acceptable?

[@vowel8280]

@@mrclean9513 He did not say or implied that it was acceptable, he was asking the question of why we think other forms unetical practices are acceptable, like things we buy that were made using child labor yet we find CP unacceptable since this is also a unnetical practice, and this was in a debate against a lunatic who was arguing that child labor laws should be abolished You might say that the comparison is extreme but he was NOT making a case in favor of CP or defending it in any way How about just watch the full debate, or at least 10 minutes before the clipped video instead of just taking these two clowns at face value

[@dishmanw]

"This is a sickness!!! of the highest order.

[@thesuperdingos]

I don’t even know who vaush is but he totally looks like a PDF

[@ThePalisky]

he has the communist starter pack look, it just happens to look pedo...coincidence? who knows

[@alexzanderroberts995]

Bro looks like a file type

[@Floridamangaming729]

He’s a lolcow. The type of guy you constantly troll and they endlessly fall for it. But this guy just trolls himself i guess.

[@blist14ant]

pdfl

[@exquisitemeat5845]

Ey man friendly fire dude, I look a lil like that guy, please leave me outta this 🤣

[@waithe_]

Yooh! This is crazy. This week in my country in AFRICA, people were protesting for a suspect who was arrested for allegedly r wording kids and unaliving them afterwards to be released so that they could deal with him . They blocked a road while doing so. It was extreme but going online and defending cp is also extreme.

[@stephanieann87]

This is truly disgusting. There is nothing worse than taking the innocence away from a child

[@ոakedsquirtle]

Yes taking the innocence out of a drawing.

[@frailxx5955]

You need a therapist bro. It doesn't matter if it's a drawing it's a depicition of a child.@@ոakedsquirtle

[@Darius-kl3jk]

​@@frailxx5955 u missed his point cuz u just tryna be antagonistic... loli =bad sure. but loli = ACTUAL child victimization? fkn come on bro. & u tryna say sum sus about that guy for pointing that out to you.

[@paulw5039]

@@ոakedsquirtle You and the people who liked your comment need to have their hard drive checked.

[@OctoMatoe]

​@@ոakedsquirtle gateway drug...

[@DeDuppio_111]

What I've learned about American soical politics, is that the far-left and far-right are duality of man. Far -Left: Wolf In sheep clothings Far-Right: Not very subtle, but honest

[@AmazingAutist]

Pretty much. The people on the left and the right are normal and are overshadowed by the ones in the extremes.

[@troua2001]

Its better to have an honest enemy than a deceitful friend

[@sportspro2.049]

​@@troua2001 wouldn't want to have either

[@AmazingAutist]

@@troua2001 it's better to have neither.

[@linkwolf2196]

​@@AmazingAutistDaddy is that you 😢

[@Arizto7828]

4:29 he said the thing! OMG he said it!

[@Carpfoon]

16:01 "you were sitting down eating jalapenos now you mad cuz everybody JALAPENYO business" BARS BARS BARS