VB WRX vs. VA WRX STI - Why I chose the WRX!

Tune in to find out why I chose a VB WRX over a VA STI!
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Chapters:
00:00 Intro
00:42 Background
02:13 Price
03:18 New Car Perks
03:48 Smiles per Gallon $$
04:17 Eyesight Safety Tech
05:09 Drivability
06:20 Tuning Potential
06:43 KZbin
06:56 Closing
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[@jermss_]

I hated the vb when they first released pics. I test drove civic si, gti, Elantra n and gr86. I saw a vb sitting on the lot and was surprised how good I thought it looked in person. Test drove it and signed the paperwork right after. This car has been a dream for me personally. Just perfect. I love the cladding now and it’s unique. It puts me an a good mood on my commute. Glad I found your channel 🍻

[@carswithsepp]

Thanks for your comment! Thats something about the VB that surprised me too, that it looks way better in person. I’m glad you’re enjoying your VB, driving my VB is pretty much therapy for me haha. Cheers!

[@SuzukiKid400]

Couldn’t have said it better! I just sold my 2022 for a 2024 TR. I thought I liked the 2022, but the 2024 TR is straight up WOW. I have so much fun driving that car, even if I’m commuting with lots of traffic. The recaros are so comfortable and tight, the suspension is perfectly damped for spirited street driving and I love the new 19s and brembos. It’s a great package.

[@Sando_Brown]

The vb wrx is a great daily. As a sti owner, the sti was a better choice for me.it's more a time capsule for my inner younger jdm fan. What other jdm car up to 2021 could you buy with a return stlye fuel system, hydraulic quick ratio power steering, close ratio stong gear box, and a freaking emissioned air pump. Suburu literally sold us 2004 tech till the last sti. So, for me, im very familiar with the platform this was my reason for buying the sti.

[@carswithsepp]

Old is gold forsure ! Thanks for sharing :)

[@sixthsensesports3713]

I own a 2022 VB it has been an unreal experience getting my car to look and feel like I knew it could. Its such an amazing motor, and to not just be another "sti" on the road was another reason I bought it.

[@carswithsepp]

That's the great part about of being a car enthusiast and especially when you own a subie. You can really make it your own, whether you want to chase big power, or just oem +, its an experience tailored to your personality

[@BDA0531]

Current base VB owner and also owned 2 VA STI's in the past. You made a good decision. STI's are special, but buying used is such a gamble for a long term daily driver. I was so paranoid of my STI blowing up (as a 2nd owner) that i sold it before the warranty expired. I do miss it sometimes but never again as a daily driver unless i could be the original owner

[@carswithsepp]

Thanks for your comment! I'm glad someone who actually owned a VA and went to a VB reaffirmed my decision. Exactly as you said, buying a used car, especially a used WRX or STI, is a gamble. Regardless if it has no mods or has maintenance records up to date, the way the previous owner drove it makes a huge impact to the longevity (like did they launch it ever, how was the break-in period handled, did they always use premium gas), all these questions made me paranoid. Especially that this was my largest purchase ever, it was a gamble I could not afford. One day, I hope to get an STI, but it will not be my daily, it will be my weekender car, where I can enjoy it fully, so even if it breaks down, I won't be worried about how I'll get to work the next day! Thanks again for the comment, cheers man!

[@Three_Rivers_Rail_Photography]

I own a 2024 Limited WRX and I absolutely love this car. Compared to the last gen WRX, it rides a lot smoother, is a lot quicker, road noise is kept to a minimum, and the cladding definitely grows on you. I told a buddy of mine when they first released that people would fall in love with this new generation of WRX's and I was right. I've been so many people mod these cars and add a lot of power in them with very little mods to do so. I've owned mine now for a month and every time I get into it, I feel so happy that I made the right choice in getting one. Same friend that owns a last gen WRX loves seeing my car and how good it looks with just a few cosmetic mods. He was skeptical with the new design but it has since grown on him as well after seeing them in person.

[@carswithsepp]

I had a few friends skeptical about the WRX as well. But after seeing it in person, the looks grew on them pretty quick. The driving experience is what sold them though, definitely a smooth and quick ride!

[@awesomedude65]

I got a 2022 limited, how the brakes on the 2024?

[@marcohinojosa1191]

Planning on getting a WRX in the future. Pay off current and save some money for a heavy down payment. Excited for sure

[@CarStory]

I own a 2019 STI. Never tuned it and the only engine mods are an IAG AOS and cylinder 4 cooling mod. Has only 19k miles so it’s not a daily driver. I think about selling it because I drive it so little and the insurance has increased to a point where I wonder if it's worth keeping. Love the car though, it's a very fun car to drive.

[@MsAkmc]

Nice video ! This is what I was talking about 👏

[@carlitos4art]

Excellent video! I would have gone the same route if in your situation! Test drove one and it is impressive! I'm blessed that I have a daily/work vehicle and my 20' VA Sti is my weekend car so i can enjoy it fully! It's surreal that I got the dream car I wanted as a child and I don't think I'll ever let it go. The raw driving experience keeps me in love when I step in it. I'll pass it down to my future kid!

[@carswithsepp]

Thank you very much! It was a tough call between the VA vs the VB. The VA just has a special charm to it no other car has. One day I'd love a VA as a weekender/project car like yourself, it would be a dream for sure. Also, that's awesome you will pass on your car to your future kid. Cars like the STI will be so rare and sought after in the future that your kid will be the coolest person in the school lot!

[@O8WRx]

For most folks I recommend the WRX. If it's your daily driver/ use it on longer trips, it is smarter financially. Especially now save up a fat down payment to avoid these wild interest rates. Plus it will outdrive most folks abilities for a long time stock. You can then use the money you saved to customize it with better suspension, decor, etc. After the warranty is out, then you can mod the engine, tune it, etc and gain considerable power. The reason I went to the STI after owning my WRX for several years was because I could afford it and it's not my daily driver anymore. I got a good deal pre-pandemic on an 18 STI so I am lucky. You are paying for the brake package, suspension, better tranny, etc and it is worth it for a performance car. The STI was my dream car for over 20 years now (damn I feel old saying that). I drive it a couple times a month and have added some mods making around 365 to the wheels. Have fun with your cars, and to those folks dreaming of getting one some day, just keep working hard and saving. I promise it pays off.

[@SickPigeon]

I own a 23 VB premium. I never considered a WRX or STI because of my size, 6’2” with a 6’7” wingspan. I just don’t fit well in most. I work on the docks and get to drive pretty much every make & model of new common cars and a crazy amount of imports 25 years or older (imports need to be 25 yrs old in the USA compared to 20 yrs up in Canada). So every once in a while I drive a car onto or off a ship and really enjoy some aspect of driving it and then get out and check to see what model & trim level it is. This is what put the VB WRX on my radar but it still wasn’t on my short list. I started eliminating cars off my short list for various reasons, like the challenger & chargers because they get stolen so often in my area. Slowly the WRX started to make more sense and I’m one of the few that liked the looks of it early on including the cladding. The main reason I went with it in the end is because I have the option to put a small lift on it, and haul my bikes more easily up some forest roads. The reason I went with the 23 premium has to do mostly with my size. I really really wanted the TR and waited for it to come out. I also hoped 2024 would bring better color options. Due to my height and preferred seat angle (based on my preferred nice weather driving, arm on open window sill) I preferred not to have a sunroof due to the lower interior roof. I actually rub my head when looking over my left shoulder at blind spot. The 2024’s all came with the eyesight which takes up so much of the top of the windshield. I truly don’t get why more people don’t complain about the eyesight unit being so huge. It’s always in my peripheral vision and worse when first car in line at stop lights. So I went with a left over new 2023 at a big enough discount I didn’t bother haggling. My hopes are to get a big brake kit (unless I lift the car and can’t fit them on the smaller wheels). Get as much of the limited & above suede interior pieces (already got the extended armrest) and aftermarket front seats. I don’t like the feel of the cloth seats, don’t like that they are limited adjustment seats also. I also hope to get seats that sit at least an inch lower in the car. ~~~~ So far I’ve really enjoyed the WRX. It’s pretty fun to drive. I fit in it pretty decently for a small car. I have been having fun buying none powertrain parts for it. Maybe get a bit more aggressive when I get closer to the warranty ending. But I know the option is there.

[@timeout9851]

Good choice, I liked the vb the first time I seen it, once I drove it I was convinced, I’ve now tuned with bolt ons and it’s super fun to drive for a daily…

[@carswithsepp]

How much power are you pushing??

[@timeout9851]

@@carswithsepp 310hp,420tq, mild safe tune for a daily, could have pushed more but it’s enough for me and the gear box!

[@wrangler811112]

Great discussion. I went with a 2020 STI bc of the aesthetics and what seemed like a core focus on the driver enthusiast. I’m curious how the auto braking feature works on a manual. Does it kick you out of gear automatically somehow when it auto brakes? Or the system just ‘yolo’s’ it and doesn’t worry about stalling the engine out from the sudden reduction in rev’s as it brakes?

[@kingrick4420]

I am curious too, I have a feeling it's more of the yolo method, and they assume you will be smart enough to throw the clutch in yourself haha....

[@carswithsepp]

2020 STI is a gem - keep it as long as you possibly can. As the number of STI's are now limited, your car will go up in cost significantly over time. For the auto braking it can be used in 2nd to 6th gear. And when it engages, as you put it, it does actually yolo and stop the vehicle, even if it causes the car to stall. If you're quick enough you can clutch in and keep the car on, but in instances where the auto break is activated, the stalling may not be the worst thing to worry about. I have yet to experience an emergency stopping scenario but I'll make a video in a few months once I get a better idea how it is to live with. Thanks for the comment!

[@kingrick4420]

@@carswithsepp I got a 2011 STi hatch hoping it holds it's value for that reason lol but also I don't want to get rid of it ever.

[@calebjared75]

does the eyesight on manual have lane keep/lane tracing? That was my favorite feature for long highway trips. I still want the manual for the twisties!

[@carswithsepp]

@@calebjared75 It does and it works pretty good

[@dustytanco6917]

I wanted a wrx or sti for awhile drove a few generations bug eye heavily modified but needed a clutch i could tell on test drive at a dealership, drove a older sti i love the older sti but i test drove a 22 wrx and was impressed with how the car felt , its a really as you said a very great everyday car

[@VB_Bryan]

Got my VB for the exact same reasons as you. Pretty hard to find a clean STI with low miles. I said I wasn't going to tune mine for a few years. One Black Friday sale later and I am pushing 350whp :)

[@carswithsepp]

Nice man! It’s so tempting to tune this car knowing it makes power super easy with minimal mods. Those sales are deadly haha! Cheers

[@shiloh5199]

Good review bro. Personally, my favorite WRX STi is the 2014 WRX STi hatchback, but I have to admit that the VA chassis was a big improvement on ride quality, sound deadening and interior quality. The absence of the hatchback option was a huge disappointment but I understand why the hatchback variant wasn't produced.

[@calebmar]

I went with a 2023 WRX Sport last year and have loved it since. It’s my first manual car and I literally drove it off the lot and home I was that confident with the clutch right away. Of course stalled it a couple times stopping at intersections but don’t we all starting out 😂

[@carswithsepp]

Nice man! Driving manual is so tricky at the start but once you get it, it’s so much fun. Especially that your first manual is the WRX, driving is that much more enjoyable. Cheers!

[@equinox6433]

Got my VB at the tail end of December ‘23. Brought my ‘17 WRX in for a balance/rotation. Asked how much they would give for a trade-in, and the guy asked me if I wanted to test drive a ‘23 WRB Base. Night and day difference, and my ‘17 was lightly modded and tuned (GS jpipe, GS BPV, GS BCS, Mishimoto Intake, Drunkmann tuned). I was genuinely surprised at how well the power came on and how well the car handled. A week later I brought her home 😂

[@carswithsepp]

Haha thats awesome man! Any plans for mods for the VB?

[@equinox6433]

@@carswithsepp once the warranty is up, yes definitely. As of now I just have cosmetic stuff and wheels

[@MrRobcolts]

Good explanation of your reasoning Sepp. It’s a reality that as technology advances it drips its way into Subies often at a different rate to other manufacturers. For a company with such an impressive WRC history and development background they are very conservative. I still love my VA STi over the VB garden variety for its mechanical properties but I remain grateful that the WRX exists in some form that resembles the original for whatever time remains on the analogue concept. Long live ULH and 6SM 🎉

[@carswithsepp]

Thanks for the comment! I echo your thoughts, Subaru evolved their performance vehicles (WRX and STI) at a much slower pace compared to other competitors. Maybe too slow to the point that the STI had to be discontinued. However, I do appreciate the old school feel the cars retain, even the VB platform keeps the driving experience not too far from its roots. I'm grateful as well that Subaru still kept the WRX in their lineup and even expanded the trim levels (TR/RS) with more performance items. I feel Subaru's habit of slowly changing their cars and design philosophy will make them one of the few car manufacturers who will keep the driving experience analogue and raw for the foreseeable - which ultimately we car enthusiasts care about the most. Cheers man 👍

[@starrja]

gonna be test driving a VB tomorrow😁

[@carswithsepp]

update me through this comment on how it went and what your thoughts are!

[@kingrick4420]

I was going to, then I found a super clean 2011 sti hatch and went for it. 18k for it had all maintenance records 98k miles.

[@carswithsepp]

@@kingrick4420How did you find that hatch!? Finding something like that is like finding a unicorn lol

[@kingrick4420]

@@carswithsepp craigslist lol, the ad had some red flags as it had some mods and in the ad the owner said he didn't know what turbo was on it lol.. I got it looked over, and he had a compression test done before he put it up for sale which was very good. when I say clean I mean zero rust lol Texas car in northern VT. I had equal length headers, and a new turbo put on because the one that was on it spooled pretty slow.

[@carswithsepp]

@@kingrick4420 Nice man, congrats on the new hatch!! The hatch is one of the best looking STI's Subaru ever made in my opinion - wide body fenders looks so much more meaner and aggressive compared to any other generation

[@naticedog]

Welcome to the VB fam! I got one because AWD, safe, daily driver and a ton of tuning potential. Only thing this car lacks is brakes, but the TR solved that. Enjoy your vehicle and thanks for posting!!!

[@carswithsepp]

Thanks for the warm welcome and the comment!

[@alanbenfell4750]

I'm in your exact same original position wanting the VA STI, low mileage, unmodded mechanically, one owner 2019+ but here Down Under prices are not just crazy but stupid crazy. In 2022 when the VB landed I didn't like it and now seeing some modded exteriors I'm liking it more and more and even planning to test drive one. Still not a fan of the super-large infotainment screen in them though but we'll see what way I go. Whatever I get will purely be a weekend fun car and not intended as a daily.

[@carswithsepp]

The VA STI has a fun factor that might be better than the VB for a weekender! If I had the money and garage space, I would buy the VA for the fun days and a daily for the regular Monday to Friday.

[@ryanreyes5281]

Sti is way fun!

[@elsicario7359]

just found out from comment below, sti come with front lsd center dccd diff and rear lsd, disappointed to find out my new VB runs front open diff and rear open diff, it would explain why it would understeer and push when I tried to accelerate mid corner even after I put coilovers and sway bars and a052. still like new vb, and i have good example where driver matter. in a anime called initial d there is a car takumi ae86 that has lsd like the sti, and another car itsuki ae85 without lsd like the wrx. well the takumi driver drove ae85 without lsd and still beat another car in a mountain race.

[@davecharvella4854]

Truly enjoyed this ... subscribed to prove it!

[@carswithsepp]

Thank you!!!

[@AlexInTheSubie]

Both fun cars..can’t go wrong wit any…but if ya gunna make power go wit the sti …but it’s gunna COST ALOT

[@dcoiman]

I have a 22 ceramic white GT. Don’t give me wrong. I got the card looking great but now the new TR came out. I definitely want to trade in. There’s just something about a manual that is rewarding to drive. Unfortunately, unfortunately when I was buying, this was the only option I had and I desperately needed a car.

[@beaches2mountains230]

OWNED 2 STI'S (GR) AND OTHER WRXS AND TO BE HONEST, BESIDES THE TRANS/LSD'S I FEEL LIKE THIS IS BY FAR THE BEST CAR OVERALL. MY STI'S WERE STOCK AND MODDED SO IVE TRIED MAKING A TRULY UNBIASED COMPARISON..WITH A LITTLE SUSPENSION MODS ETC ITS JUST CRAZY HOW WELL THESE CARS RESPOND..HANDLING IS CRAZY. ONCE I DO THE STI DRIVETRAIN SWAP ILL BE GOOD TO GO

[@beaches2mountains230]

OH AND YES I OFTEN MISS THE EJ UNEQUAL LENGTH EXHAUST MANIFOLD RUMBLE BUT I DONT PLAN ON RUINING THE POWER,EFFICIENCY AND RELIABILITY THAT THE EQUAL LENGTH PROVIDES..AS HARD AS IT IS TO SAY GOODBYE TO THE OL' EJ ALL I HAVE TO SAY IS AT LEAST ITS NOT ELECTRIC AND WHERE ELSE YOU GOING TO GET SUCH A BARGAIN PRICE FOR A 4DOOR, MANUAL, AWD TURBO ? SUBARU REALLY WAS TIRED OF ALL THE HATE ON THEIR ENGINES AND REALLY DID THEIR HOMEWORK ON THIS PLATFORM.

[@marccayson]

I bought a 2023 WRX because I really really hate the eyesore and nanny crap. I'm convinced the people that hate on it haven't driven one.

[@javonjaquaviousjacksonjuni5124]

I built my vb based on the jdm sti package that was in the intro video , trying to make it into the sti that coulda been

[@irlredline7965]

I bought myself a VB WRX a week and a half ago. I bought it because it's a turbo car it's cheap compared to something like a GR Corolla the tuning potential and because it's AWD

[@lacoupe5088]

As much as people want to complain about the VB, sometimes buying a new car that no one has modified or drove rough is nice. The odds are that 8/10 used STIs have been altered or beaten by someone who just wanted to squeeze more power out of it. Either way, enjoy your vehicle. I upgraded my car to a VB early last year and still love it. It's comfortable, peppy, and doesn't look as bad as people say. Also, it's a beast in autocross. Would i have loved an STI Trim for the VB, yes, but Subaru is in the business of making money, and their best selling vehicles are the outback, forester, etc. This WRX has the same engine as the xt outback and the accent 🤣. They're trimming the fat and looking at how they can keep these vehicles and save money, so, sharing components makes sense for them.

[@david_coulter]

Are the recaro's comfy?

[@carswithsepp]

I wouldnt say comfy, theyre fairly stiff but liveable.

[@elsicario7359]

replying to comment about sti having front lsd center dccd diff and rear lsd and wrx only having open front diff and open rear diff. in intial d there is a episode where the takumi ae86 like the sti has lsd and itsuki ae85 like the wrx has no lsd but guess what the good driver takumi drove the ae85 and still beat someone. don't believe me look up ae85 vs silvia race, that shows it's up to driver that can win even without lsd.

[@lecoureurdesbois86]

VB is a good car but the STI is just superior in every single way aside from fuel economy and probably reliability

[@ranran2218]

If your building for track and power the STI is hands down better. The transmission is in a whole different class. The vb transmission is pretty weak. If you just want to slap some basic bold ons and go in a straight line the vb I'd solid but if you want to really build a car the STI is that car. I also want to add tge 2024 wrx having eyesight is one of the dumbest things ever. Subaru eyesight is horrible and having it on a wrx is a huge mistake. It makes me 100% avoid buying one in the future.

[@kradios09]

It's almost the "same power" but the VB dynos at subaru's advertised crank HP. Also, stock for stock a vb wrx keeps up with/slightly beats a va sti.

[@carswithsepp]

I saw some videos that the VB dyno'd a higher baseline then the VA STI baseline. Not sure how legit that was but was interesting to see

[@JoshDillon-lm3hw]

​@carswithsepp ive seen a few like that too sti drive train I'm sure has higher drive train loss with how much beefer everything is tho so makes sense

[@stijanjija2225]

Sti fd is 3.54 and wrx vb fd is 4.11

[@elsicario7359]

@@JoshDillon-lm3hw yeah you're spot on, I learned from comment below STI has whole different drivetrain like you said front LSD center DCCD diff and rear LSD, apparently STI was designed for handling, I never knew that, and that would explain why my friends stock STI handled better than my VB with coilovers and swaybars. Still like VB though, it's more comfortable than his STI for daily.

[@JoshDillon-lm3hw]

@elsicario7359 it's not the vb isn't designed to handle well lsds just perform better in track conditions when your cornering at the limits an the sti Trans is much stronger an can handle more power an abuse

[@dachanist]

For me, my decision was very payment driven. The Jetta GLI with cloth seats has 84mth finance for $570 MSRP.. And Subaru has 81% residual on a 24 month lease for the base model... which is nearly unobtainium.... Well, I got lucky and found a base WRX in stock and leased for 2 years for $530. So basically... do I want a Jetta GLI finance for 7 years? Or 6 year old Civic Si with 100000km financed for 5yrs or a 2 year lease on a base WRX??? Uhhh... New Car Lease please... Because Used Subarus' cost WAAAYYY too much money lol ? If I need more than 25,000km per year... I can't be financing it for 7 years anyway - it would be 350,000km by the time it was paid off...

[@carswithsepp]

That makes a lot of sense. Subaru's do keep their residual very well!

[@dachanist]

@@carswithsepp msrp in CAD is $33695 plus freight and tax. Residual after 2yrs/48000km is $29350. They gave me $500 off (very kind of them to do one week before month end) plus $300 for my dead tranny trade in fiesta. That $800 plus tax knocked $40/month off the payment over 24months from $570 down to $530. If I want to keep the car and it’s worth way less than $29k when I’m done… I’ll just buy a different used one. If it’s worth way more (very unlikely)… I’ll get paid to trade it in for a new lease. The Fiesta was bought 2 years ago in the peak of used car frenzy for $5000… plus winter tires… so it cost me over $200 a month to drive a shitbox vs about $450 to finance new a base Jetta or this… the math makes it kinda a no brainer if you appreciate a manual sport sedan…

[@AntilleanConfederation]

The VB is the best WRX ever. Could have been the best STI ever too. But it is what it is. The car seriously only needs the STI diffs and gearbox to be perfect.

[@Dulc3B00kbyBrant0n]

Ive had wrx put almost 200k on it and 25k on a sti now stage 3. If you wanted a sti get one even a used one you can fix whatever is wrong with it and make it yours. youll always crave a sti

[@andresluengas4650]

Swapped an STi drivetrain into mine... perfection. Too bad the bean counters at Fuji couldn't justify making one of their own.

[@AntilleanConfederation]

@@Dulc3B00kbyBrant0n I already had a STI. I had a final production model that I owned brand new. First owner, I like the VB more.

[@stijanjija2225]

Be careful what you wish for. Sti fd ks 3.54 and your vb is 4.11.

[@AntilleanConfederation]

@@stijanjija2225 yeah is geared very short. 80mph in sixth is at 3200rpm

[@theonlyfriedtyguy]

Paid 45k for my 2020 STi used. No regrets.

[@VachOrd]

Appreciate both cars, ... There is a reason we have WRX and STI , for daily WRX for me.. And only premium trim anything goes over 38k it doesnt make sense to me bc STI is there with better drivertrain and charcter to drive. For truck usage STI only . Looking for straight line fast car, gtfo from here you are in a wrong house bobby ... Unless you have built a scoobie for roll...$$$$ Stay humble in your seats and play with l the size if your sheet .. Happy boosting !

[@georgemlm217]

I saw the price and im good

[@grriceman782]

You made the logical choice and as you stated, trying to find a used VA STI that’s not been all loaded up with a bunch of non-original mods would be nearly impossible.

[@AlexInTheSubie]

Naaa broo the sti price is going up lol…a sti wit 5k on the dash is going for 54k lol

[@Cykoid]

... you're getting worse fuel economy than my 6.2L pushrod V8

[@Rynowhite14]

Eh, both are big, fat and boring. Should have just gotten another GD or a hatchback. I'd consider the new VB if they came factory with 400hp and if they fixed the ugly body with a better, sti body kit, and sold it for $40k

[@zombielivesmatter7294]

Just remember don’t be like typical VB owner and talk about how great FA24 is in straightline and not mention how average the handling is (comfortable for daily but bad for performance). Watching your video I don’t think you’re going to be one of those VB owners. Most other VB owners think AWD is AWD, but VB and STI are very very different. VB literally uses open front diff and open rear diff from Forester and SUV global platform along with electronic brakepad vectoring from the SUV. STI has front LSD, active center DCCD diff, and rear LSD just like Evo, GTR, GR Corolla, Focus RS. Handling is NIGHT and DAY different, but VB owners only going to talk aviut how they can beat STI in straight line 😂

[@AntilleanConfederation]

I had a 21 STI. You full of 💩Hard cornering the only difference is if you have the CCCD in 30 front 70 rear. There is a Mexican Chanel that has their own track and the VB was faster than a evo 9 around that track. And the evo 9 is known for good cornering performance

[@carswithsepp]

I won't stir the pot here but I don't really know what a typical VB owner is. All facets of the car community has people who think their car is faster in a straight line or around corners. To be honest, if I were looking to talk about going fast, I wouldn't have bought a WRX, I wouldn't have bought a Subaru at all. If I really wanted speed I would have got something with an automatic (dsg golf r maybe). But I don't really care about speed as much when it comes to driving, I'd rather have a fun driving experience over a quick 0-60.

[@AntilleanConfederation]

@@carswithsepp yup. 👍🏻. I owned a GT350 and a 392 challenger… both way faster than a WRX. But that’s not what I got a wrx for.

[@totaleclipse05]

@@AntilleanConfederation what channel? I want to check out the video.

[@BDA0531]

Well coming from someone whos had 2 STI's and now a VB, youre wrong. VB handles exceptionally well for having open diffs and is quicker than an STI in most daily situations. I wont argue about the goodies and all that because the STI has more of that but the VB WRX is a better car for the money imo (assuming lower trims).

[@moldyrefrigerator]

I don't own a VB WRX. Why? Because it's ugly as hell

[@carswithsepp]

lol thanks moldyrefrigerator

[@omarnanana]

or you cant afford it