VBS shareholders reaction on Simelane;s Parliament appearance

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@mossfairy3060
@mossfairy3060 9 күн бұрын
That's what they all say.." i did nothing wrong" because they feel they entitled ...
@jameskillu9171
@jameskillu9171 8 күн бұрын
DA message is home. depositing money or takling a loan from black community bank was and is a crime
@Zam-mi9wz
@Zam-mi9wz 7 күн бұрын
Very true, they believe if they tell a lie long enough, somehow it will become truthful.
@IrisViljoen
@IrisViljoen 9 күн бұрын
There is no justice for the poor people who lost all there money. PARLEMENT WILL PROTECT HER.
@jameskillu9171
@jameskillu9171 9 күн бұрын
why should parliament punish her, when she has done nothing wrong, done no crime, broken no law..
@SharonKeune-zo1zi
@SharonKeune-zo1zi 9 күн бұрын
​@@jameskillu9171You have the evidence. Please share with us.
@mercypuso3888
@mercypuso3888 9 күн бұрын
If she could raise over 800 grand in 3 months why did she need a loan of 500 grand
@jameskillu9171
@jameskillu9171 9 күн бұрын
her financial decisions is non of our business,
@thomasgosling5155
@thomasgosling5155 9 күн бұрын
@@jameskillu9171you are wrong, she’s is and was a public servant, it has everything to do with the public, stop defending the thieves.
@johnnyeveritt5695
@johnnyeveritt5695 9 күн бұрын
Exactly. There is this much misguided understanding that if you * Pay Back The Money; * then all is A-OK ! In this case; given the absolute short-term * Loan * period ( As you rightfully query ); from WHERE did the subsequent payback monies ( Original capital PLUS an evident 45%+ Interest Rate ); come from ? As you also mention; what was the PURPOSE / NEED for such a * Loan * in the first place ? In its entirety; the time-line is all wrong; let alone the fact that; unsurprisingly; the Coffee Shoppe no longer trades or exists ? ! 🤔 Ultimately; methinks the Minister doth protesteth too much and for too long; without providing basic support documentation which you and I would have to have as a matter of process; record and reference .... 🙄
@jameskillu9171
@jameskillu9171 9 күн бұрын
@@thomasgosling5155 what law and crime, is your basis,
@thomasgosling5155
@thomasgosling5155 9 күн бұрын
@@jameskillu9171 investing money in a mutual bank for starters
@bluecool533
@bluecool533 9 күн бұрын
Shs was disgraceful in her behavior ..lies
@jameskillu9171
@jameskillu9171 9 күн бұрын
The minister is gracious. Her crime is being black and successful against the wishes of racists.
@PaulWindsor978
@PaulWindsor978 9 күн бұрын
​@@jameskillu9171 home affairs identity theft is serious in our country, please investigate
@nicolaasludick4807
@nicolaasludick4807 9 күн бұрын
​@@jameskillu9171 Your comments shows that you are the only racist. The issue is about supposed theft and misleading the country. Stop having a one track mind and publisize it in everything you say.
@Technology24
@Technology24 9 күн бұрын
@@jameskillu9171 But she stole from black people not white people.She stole from black pensioners.Is that racist?
@anticorrup-g5o
@anticorrup-g5o 9 күн бұрын
She is lying. I hope the President makes the right call. As the normal average Joe, we see it every day. Deep in our hearts, we know. How can mayor not know what went down at the initial deposit, only for another few deposits to be made? Jy kan sè wat Jy wil. That's why you went to Gundo. You knew everything and acted with impunity, knowing that ANC cadres are protected at the cost of Safricans.
@HONEYBADGERBITE
@HONEYBADGERBITE 8 күн бұрын
If cyril goes after her he will be exposing himself on the phala phala matter thats a very fragile story for him now
@anticorrup-g5o
@anticorrup-g5o 8 күн бұрын
@@HONEYBADGERBITE His double edged sword awaits him. His farm management created this mess for him. His money though, not the already impoverished.
@markloxley1841
@markloxley1841 9 күн бұрын
Another ANC oxygen thief. A complete disgrace.
@edmundwessels2072
@edmundwessels2072 9 күн бұрын
She's an triple agent working for ANC, MK and EFF.
@BongiThombeni
@BongiThombeni 9 күн бұрын
Lies written all over and very arrogant. She knows that nothing is going to happen to her.
@jameskillu9171
@jameskillu9171 9 күн бұрын
nothing should happen to people who take loans and repay,
@molokomack332
@molokomack332 9 күн бұрын
I can understand why she took a loan from a bee company. This white monopoly banks don't want to help poor black people. She is a patriot.
@dineshanpillay5944
@dineshanpillay5944 9 күн бұрын
​@@jameskillu9171talk of the looter lover😂
@aarongunnz9513
@aarongunnz9513 9 күн бұрын
​@dineshanpillay5944 this guy is ZANU PF spy. He want to see South Africa falls like Zimbabwe
@jameskillu9171
@jameskillu9171 9 күн бұрын
@@aarongunnz9513 This is your bogus opinion, and you are entitled to it. I defend your right to own it.
@fabianusmartinkhaiseb5834
@fabianusmartinkhaiseb5834 9 күн бұрын
Instead of resigning voluntarily she insist I have done nothing. That is a clear sign that she doesn't show any sign of remorse as to what's at stake. Shameless PEOPLE.
@theresasmuts9896
@theresasmuts9896 9 күн бұрын
They MUST find out the truth and push on forward....so much corruption is being dealt with it would be disheartening if they stop short at high profile persona...♥️🇿🇦
@jameskillu9171
@jameskillu9171 9 күн бұрын
You mean using apartheid laws, to corruptly grab land and mines from poor people.
@vanzylbooysen4826
@vanzylbooysen4826 9 күн бұрын
She's lying through her teeth
@ntsikelelomzayiya1503
@ntsikelelomzayiya1503 9 күн бұрын
Excellent journalism...
@PaulWindsor978
@PaulWindsor978 9 күн бұрын
Go get another loan and pay the poor people back
@Gen_X
@Gen_X 9 күн бұрын
If she already paid back the loan and it never got to the pensioners, why must she pay it again. Her obligation was to the entity that granted the loan, not to these pensioners.
@ShaqleeToine10.02
@ShaqleeToine10.02 8 күн бұрын
She got kickbacks...and as soon as she saw the dark clouds coming in regarding VBS..she was like " let me deposit the money back", then came up with the " loan" story ..
@mukondelelimatshili58
@mukondelelimatshili58 9 күн бұрын
This was not a loan, but rather a recompense for the minister's illegal deposits to VBS while serving as Mayor of Polokwane. Stop hiding from the reality!!
@radithakothinane8809
@radithakothinane8809 5 күн бұрын
CR must not baiza on this one...remove this thieving woman
@musajohannessithole8970
@musajohannessithole8970 8 күн бұрын
Viva EFF.
@2a71c7kc6
@2a71c7kc6 8 күн бұрын
Perharps is was wise for ramaphosa to keep his money in the couch instead of vbs
@rinanorden2343
@rinanorden2343 9 күн бұрын
Earning a big salary in her position with a lot of responsiblilities as mayor of Polikwane, where did she had to time on hand to run a coffee shop? Her answers to the questions at the commision, was just nonsensical and all the effort to go from pillar to post to lay her hands on money for her ‘coffee shop’😂😂😂 no wonder our cities and towns are falling apart. She doesn’t even understand the term of conflict on interest, but on the other hand it seems that most polititians and high proflile office bearers, the term: conflict of interest, corruption means nothing as long as they can blame everything on white capital monopoly money, yet it is fine to steal from the very same poor they claim to serve and correct injustices. Even the poorest of the poor cannot be fooled by the ANC and like minded parties any more. If she remains in her position, it woule be cleared that her protectors all have all have their own ‘VBS’ story to hide.
@MzeeLusiki
@MzeeLusiki 9 күн бұрын
You can run any business without being hands on to it 🤔 seriously don't you know that?
@rinanorden2343
@rinanorden2343 8 күн бұрын
@@MzeeLusiki not the point. She had a job that was suppost to keep her busy and no time left for side business. If it was a white DA led city mayor, it would be headlines and not tollerated by us as tax payers. His or her main focus and priority should be serving the people who pays her salary and be side tract by trying to run a business as well. If she wants to make more money she should have never avail herself for public office, period.🙃
@jameskillu9171
@jameskillu9171 8 күн бұрын
Ramaphosa as president has time to ran phala phala, Are you suffering from dementia
@jameskillu9171
@jameskillu9171 8 күн бұрын
@@rinanorden2343 You are one of those who sell labour for life, Simply, she hired people like you, as a Master, employer and entrepreneur.
@rinanorden2343
@rinanorden2343 8 күн бұрын
@@jameskillu9171 as allways the victim card😭😭😭
@harveyratsibela4007
@harveyratsibela4007 9 күн бұрын
If it is about the money, then the minister repayed the money unless people are after the minister.
@aarongunnz9513
@aarongunnz9513 9 күн бұрын
She must go to jail
@jameskillu9171
@jameskillu9171 9 күн бұрын
Exactly,
@mvubu6823
@mvubu6823 9 күн бұрын
She got paid 500k and never paid anything for 4 years. Only paid the day the VBS report came. Gundo had to go into 500k overdraft to raise the money The only money Gundo got into its account EVER, was VBS kickbacks. It's money laundering 101
@nicolaasludick4807
@nicolaasludick4807 9 күн бұрын
Of course we are after the minister, she was appointed as Justice minister. If she can not be trusted in this investigation how can she be trusted in the portfolio of Justice?
@lindamanamela7998
@lindamanamela7998 8 күн бұрын
No one is after the Minister . The Minister, according to her declaration, she LOANED the millions from Gundu, not from VBS perse. But the money that she was borrowed was coming from a man who benefitted from the VBS. She was not directly involved, but in the process, she came to know that the money she was borrowed came from that vbs bank. The question is : after she came to know, WHAT DID SHE DO.? Nothing. She build mansions and ran Coffee shops in Santon as if nothing happened. CORRUPT !! She must pay back the money.
@user-vm4zm2qn7v
@user-vm4zm2qn7v 9 күн бұрын
Stupiddity is inhereted from the forehathers. Thank GOD we are different. She knew what she was doing.😮😮
@TokeloMaswabi
@TokeloMaswabi 8 күн бұрын
NO i think she heard the answer of Floyd and she decided she will also give the same answer because Floyd also took money from his brother now she lie and say she borrowed money from loan shark which is a lie
@butterfingers5404
@butterfingers5404 9 күн бұрын
Go and ask Julius and Floyd who might know where the money had gone
@MzeeLusiki
@MzeeLusiki 9 күн бұрын
Poor comment, focus on the present issue and Malema & Floyd has anything to do with vbs saga their days will come too.... so don't rush okay!
@Gen_X
@Gen_X 9 күн бұрын
It is unfortunate what has happened to these pensioners, but that is what happens when you vote with your heart and not your head. That being said, this man misunderstood the law re source of funds. There is no obligation on the borrower to establish the source of funds when taking a loan from a third party. The obligation is on credit providers who are accountable and reporting institutions to establish deposits made into their accounts. So in a nutshell, this lady is a credit borrower, not credit provider, hence this obligation establish source of funds does not apply to her.
@patmdoda9567
@patmdoda9567 9 күн бұрын
We've been hearing a lot EFF ,who is this now?
@molokomack332
@molokomack332 9 күн бұрын
I think we should learn to wait until proper investigation is done. There is a possibility that the minister did nothing criminal.
@jameskillu9171
@jameskillu9171 9 күн бұрын
Exactly, there is no crime, for taking a loan from anyone
@jameskillu9171
@jameskillu9171 9 күн бұрын
The minister is honourable, took a loan and repaid. The shareholder is playing DA politics, he is after the person, not money,.
@aarongunnz9513
@aarongunnz9513 9 күн бұрын
When are you going back home?
@PaulWindsor978
@PaulWindsor978 9 күн бұрын
Yes go home!!
@lebokhaphela2332
@lebokhaphela2332 9 күн бұрын
You are clearly not following the story. She only paid after 4 when the story VBS started coming out
@PaulWindsor978
@PaulWindsor978 9 күн бұрын
@@lebokhaphela2332 his not even south african ignore him
@jameskillu9171
@jameskillu9171 8 күн бұрын
@@lebokhaphela2332 DA message to clevet blacks is home. depositing money or takling a loan from black community bank was and is a crime
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