these came out 2 years ago..i saw a demo in the supply house...the salesman was not using a vise...just his hands...he said it was designed to use with one hand holding copper and one on the drill...in the field its very rare you will have a vise to hold it down...you could use a flaring block for stability...this also comes in a swaging bits ....i never bought these bits...im old school and like to use my flaring block even though i dont like flare connections...i prefer sweat connections...i have the hilmor quick engage flare & swage tool kit....thanks for showing us Nick 👍
@chadschafer38905 жыл бұрын
Thats because its not used or designed on hard copper. The supply house was using soft copper, and when used the right way it works amazing
@TheOneshot785 жыл бұрын
Here is a old school tip. Place a nickel over the block then push the copper flash to the nickel then tighten the block down and you will have a perfect flare.
@johntalbert82274 ай бұрын
Thank you for that tip.
@fatbuddycat5 жыл бұрын
I already own the drill so it makes sense to buy the flare bit kit. Thanks for the inside scoop Nick, glad to see VCG crew supporting new trades people too. Nice job thinking outside the box on this video!
@VCGConstruction5 жыл бұрын
Thank you buddy!!
@jeffparker3605 жыл бұрын
You guys should open an Amazon affiliate link so that everyone can order the products right off of the description section. You guys will also get a small commission from the purchase and it's no extra cost to the viewers.
@Mirfan-tb6oh5 жыл бұрын
Uska price kya hai
@Mirfan-tb6oh5 жыл бұрын
Main bhi HP AC technician hun
@Mirfan-tb6oh5 жыл бұрын
Main bhi HV AC technician hun
@theconstitutionalist56175 жыл бұрын
As a plumber I use a ridgid flaring tool... it's super pricey tho... but I've never had an issue with it... hilmar makes a cool flaring tool
@tru6803 Жыл бұрын
Don't buy Hilmar...great design poor quality materials...bought 2 Hilmar products and both broke...tools are cast aluminum...junk...you can only use soft metals with these tools or they'll break immediately...and if used properly with brand new soft metals it'll take a few more times before it breaks 😂😒
@Metal_seer4 ай бұрын
It's an ingenuous idea. If I had not just ordered a $92 flare kit, I probably would have ordered it. Oh well, thanks for showing it to us. Makes me wonder how many other things we've done the same way for years, decades, or even centuries , just because they worked, without thinking of easier, faster, or cheaper ways.
@danielcontreras52382 жыл бұрын
3 days ago almosy Buy a conventional flare tool Now I know how yo do Thanks USA GUYS AND VIVA México
@adamstoolvids79265 жыл бұрын
You guys should try out there swaging kit. It works exactly the same way imo you need a coupling more than you do a flare
@madeinusa15765 жыл бұрын
They got a swaging tool similar definitely makes it easy for sure! Good pick up. With mini splits will use a lot of 3/8 and 1/4
@gerardosantamaria56714 жыл бұрын
Yellow Jacket flaring tool is the best
@truthofluke9915 жыл бұрын
Looks like it works good but having to put that much pressure on an existing lineset will cause other problems. The old style puts no lateral pressure on the lineset. It’s the same reason I use auto wirestrippers so I don’t have to pull on the wire to strip it.
@VCGConstruction5 жыл бұрын
Good point Luke!
@commercial_service5 жыл бұрын
You have to hold the line using gloves. As long as you use an 18v drill it swages in 2 sec. Been using this for a few years. The flare kit works just the same as the swage kit.
@chadschafer38905 жыл бұрын
Hes using hard copper, that why it doesnt work
@aceseightsazhvacsparkyandg81385 жыл бұрын
This is cool I have been in hv/Ac commercial since the late 90’s . And this beats my old block !
@VCGConstruction5 жыл бұрын
It is pretty cool!
@FlyEaglesFly191115 жыл бұрын
Flare fittings are the first fittings to leak. I've cut out so many over the years and replaced them with braze fittings.
@FlyEaglesFly191115 жыл бұрын
And I am curious.. was there trash in the pipe when you were done? Left over shards? Cause if so then another reason to not use it. Cause if any flare is vertical then the by product will be falling in the pipe
@williamburling32294 жыл бұрын
why do you believe the fitting leaks? do you think the leak actually starts with imperfections in either the fitting or the flare in the copper? gradually the leak opens up until the leak can not be tolerated?
@dibroc83485 жыл бұрын
Nick thanks for the tip. You seem to have a flare for these types of videos. Vince was not here so someone had to say it.
@VCGConstruction5 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂👍
@joshurmetal4205 жыл бұрын
Saves hand fatigue! Nice work bro.
@VCGConstruction5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Josh!
@summitm18hvac905 жыл бұрын
Hey, you’re welcome for the tech tip!
@VCGConstruction5 жыл бұрын
Thank you Summit!!
@Taylor.S.5 жыл бұрын
Should've named the video "The Return of Nick!" 😂
@VCGConstruction5 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂👍
@sandman93793 жыл бұрын
I have a set just like these but I use them for swaging bells and I’m assuming that’s some really hard copper u were flaring bc my 18v Milwaukee drill usually creates a 7/8s bell in less than 10 sec. what’s even CRAZIER is that my M12 IMPACT does almost as well as the 18v drill driver
@rayring86795 жыл бұрын
Great vid Nick I bought mine set 4 months ago love the set I keep way less fitting these days 💪
@VCGConstruction5 жыл бұрын
Nice Ray!!
@konamanstudio24475 жыл бұрын
Yo Nick thanks for showing a new product when nobody probably knew about until you showed it keep it real take care of that little girl of yours and your wife and what did you think about my 11 + 1 Thor review
@VCGConstruction5 жыл бұрын
Thank you Kona!! I will check it out!!
@meagaindave20495 жыл бұрын
Mr. Nick....... we've missed you.
@VCGConstruction5 жыл бұрын
Hey David!
@craigf21375 жыл бұрын
As an HVAC tech and from what Ive seen in the field. HVAC school is a waste of money. Just study on your own time for the EPA certification. Thats the only thing that matters when trying to get an HVAC job. Are you EPA certified? Can you pass a drug test? Are the only questions that really matter. Granted I live in Texas....but Ive had guys training for almost a year with me. Yeah we get guys from HVAC school. They can do a heat load calculation but cant wire a thermostat. Watch youtube lol. Figure out the difference between a piston and a txv. Learn how a txv works. When you charge by superheat...not much longer and when to charge by subcool. And OMG either wrap the lines with wet paper towel for disconnect the txv before welding. Ive told you a thousand times installers...lol Most new guys are put on easy tune ups anyways. Learn the rest in the field. If you have questions hmu. Anyways dont flare....use a couple. Especially if you are going from 22 to 410 on an old house. Use strong copper not weak stretched copper. If you are doing residential 3/8 3/4 7/8 is all youll in standard systems not mini splits. 1/2 if you have to replace a compressor. I put in my own minisplit are the worst lol
@christopherschaller7712 жыл бұрын
Bro the intro music is no joke.
@meagain60285 жыл бұрын
Good to see you, Nick!!
@VCGConstruction5 жыл бұрын
Good to see you too me!
@UcantDnieMe4 жыл бұрын
The Milwaukee 12v Impact Fuel has 4 modes and modes 2 and 3 have 2,400 RPM / 3,300 RPM so a 12v clearly works.
@stephenleepmg1135 жыл бұрын
Question on the F-Spin ? It looks like there is a chase that with the drill not precisely lined up with the pipe that the pipe could flare it self at an angle. Where with the hand flaring vise, it is always on target and almost no room for a miss flared pipe. This is the first time I have seen the F-Spin and to looks like a great idea. My though is lock the pipe in a pipe vise and use a drill press with the F-Spin. My idea maybe a bit of an over kill,. But with a drill press it alienates the human factor of wobbling or angels. What say you Nick and the VCG ?
@VCGConstruction5 жыл бұрын
This tool is actually meant to be used while holding the pipe in your hand! I think what you said makes sense though
@MicahFunk6 ай бұрын
Hard to take a drill press on a roof to flare a fitting.
@truthofluke9915 жыл бұрын
Great video Nick 👍🏻
@VCGConstruction5 жыл бұрын
Thank you Luke!!
@sdrtechАй бұрын
I wonder if this would work on the new 410A flares since they're 45° and needs to be deeper
@jaimegutierrez9930 Жыл бұрын
Hey great video, question what hvac school your going to ??
@MostlyPeacefulCombatVet5 жыл бұрын
Nick! You're a beast bro! 👊
@VCGConstruction5 жыл бұрын
Thanks David!
@sonnyschade12995 жыл бұрын
I don't know Nick, easier or faster? Possibly... But you can't double flare with it like you can with the traditional tooling for brake and fuel lines. Plus I would think that heating up the metal end may make it brittle? Possibly some one with metallurgic background could tell the VCG for sure.
@VCGConstruction5 жыл бұрын
Spin says that heating up the pipe actually makes it less brittle and less likely to crack
@wolfman15495 жыл бұрын
It’s for Hvac not brake or fuel lines
@sonnyschade12995 жыл бұрын
We all end up using the same tools regardless of the trade your in or what you're using the tool for. I guess there's always a trade off for speed or quality. I have a hard time believing that flaring a pipe by beating it with a paddle bit into shape is a good idea. Maybe I'm just old. I guess time will tell, if they cause leaky joints.
@wolfman15495 жыл бұрын
Sonny Schade no. the angle of the flare is different. This tool is for ac line sets. Not for car brakes or fuel lines. Not the same tools
@sonnyschade12995 жыл бұрын
I know it's not for fuel or brake lines because it's not a double flare. My original post bringing up double flare was just to point out that the hand tool he has can do more then these bits and I believe , do it better. But thanks for your input.
@JACs_Stories_and_Whiskey5 жыл бұрын
Nice man!
@VCGConstruction5 жыл бұрын
Thanks JAC!
@karanpadaliya27535 жыл бұрын
9106424068
@waheedyounas13615 жыл бұрын
Nice job
@victoryfirst28784 жыл бұрын
What is the story with using the spin tool for home water pipe ??? A hammer swage work better than the spin since it it advertised for HVAC ??? Thanks
@kevinklepp95265 жыл бұрын
Wow looks like a great tool to save time great review thanks
@VCGConstruction5 жыл бұрын
Thank you Kevin!
@dantheman93955 жыл бұрын
I am just wondering the longevity of the bits
@VCGConstruction5 жыл бұрын
I’m sure nick will let us know Dan The Man Solderholm!!
@Gottextrastuff5 жыл бұрын
We've been using the swaging bits for 2 years now. Still going strong.
@bill52065 жыл бұрын
Your demonstration with the old style flaring tool is a poor comparison. That tool is used for low pressure system's such as water lines, etc. The correct tool uses a wobble flare tip and has a pressure release stopper, to not thin out the flare.
@dewaltbialy81535 жыл бұрын
Jest moc miłej pracy 👍
@VCGConstruction5 жыл бұрын
Dziękuję Ci
@bcarben935 жыл бұрын
Yessir. 👍👍
@VCGConstruction5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Bruce!!
@haroldmechsner44925 жыл бұрын
Has any of you guys have used this tool on fiel, like when flaring cooper for a vrf system? Is it really that good? I have my doubts.
@VCGConstruction5 жыл бұрын
It works good on soft copper. If you heat up the end of the copper first and then use the tool it should work better
@xavierstamps77655 жыл бұрын
What kind of vice is that you are using to hold the copper?
@VCGConstruction5 жыл бұрын
Irwin vice
@sylviahobbs29063 жыл бұрын
In the video, the patent number on the box doesn't match the patent number on the bit.
@ankitpatel9957 Жыл бұрын
Is it available in india..??
@bodheeatasraf-ud-din8 ай бұрын
Hi, where can I buy it
@bronxbirdman215 жыл бұрын
Awesome brother. Saves alot of time. Thanks for sharing
@VCGConstruction5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Bronx!!
@nooneimportant43354 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know if you can use this for NG/ propane
@gopalnishad2753 Жыл бұрын
❤❤❤❤❤
@irhansauf40485 жыл бұрын
Hallo pesan barangnya di mana dan bagai mana cara saya mendapatkan spin tools
@sonyphilip45252 жыл бұрын
This product online delivery
@whoodiestyle5 жыл бұрын
This is for HVAC guys not auto repair...
@VCGConstruction5 жыл бұрын
HVAC only!
@MehediHasan-ev1fz4 жыл бұрын
I want to buy it
@ibrahimyibrahimy5 жыл бұрын
Where we buy it from
@navedahmed662 жыл бұрын
How much
@tahiracwala68085 жыл бұрын
Hello How r u boss I want this tool.. I m in karachi Pakistan
@chadschafer38905 жыл бұрын
Its not designed for hard copper.... WTF are you guys doing
@phiksit2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, It should probably get annealed first.
@boosted2.4_sky5 жыл бұрын
Just for 37° flares. .. Don't try to double flare (45°)your fuel line with this.... Lol....
@VCGConstruction5 жыл бұрын
Specifically made for HVAC
@jimmorris89662 жыл бұрын
Why video if your going to put your left arm in the way., always look at your video before you post,
@dbehistun27675 жыл бұрын
Cut heat time by damp rag?
@VCGConstruction5 жыл бұрын
Good idea db!!
@Gottextrastuff5 жыл бұрын
You need the heat to make the flare without cracking the copper. We use the swaging bits all the time.
@dbehistun27675 жыл бұрын
@@Gottextrastuff Agreed. Although this needs a Revist with S-spin with full test Vs manual (Flaring tool) But the cool down time may keep you from touching the pipe for longer than you think. Hence that Damp rag. 😃 or maybe with with a temperature gun to see how long it takes to cool down, or how many you can do until the First one becomes touchable..✌
@jerrywhite4105 жыл бұрын
I would sold you mine for like $50 because I don’t even use it lol.
@commercial_service5 жыл бұрын
Gary Black JR put your flare set on EBay for $60 and I’ll buy it same day.
@kodiefreburger93505 жыл бұрын
They suck they dont hold pressure for crap the swagger is good flare sucks though...also dont you short pieces of pipe with out a clamp or you'll be going to urgent care like my dumb self
@VCGConstruction5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the heads up Kodie!!
@truthofluke9915 жыл бұрын
By the way I have a new channel it’s ADD Workshop check it out👍🏻
@hambaallah-eo6uo5 жыл бұрын
Malaysia
@raoamarjeet54734 ай бұрын
Bro. It took so much time to make flare Old method is good
@Ridehighfxdb2 жыл бұрын
Dude you absolutely butchered that flat with the flaring block. That was truly awful it’s clear you don’t know how to use it
@richardevans89084 жыл бұрын
That flaring block looks shit, good ones have a clutch in them so it slips when you have it tight enough so you know you have a perfect consistent flare every time.
@Aldrizzle Жыл бұрын
What the hell was that flare job lol. That wasn’t even close to a good flare and I most certainly wouldn’t be calling it “perfect”
@saphiyas23972 жыл бұрын
India availabile
@shadabshaikh74725 жыл бұрын
More difficult
@tavisgogal6730 Жыл бұрын
You need to make a new video that actually shows the flare in process as it’s been made. You keep putting your arm in the way. DUH!!
@fanfan72515 жыл бұрын
在哪里能购买到
@finservissemarang65995 жыл бұрын
Hamus
@MyBallzGotShocked5 жыл бұрын
Lol
@Wheeping-Angel5 жыл бұрын
lol
@TheOneshot785 жыл бұрын
What to save time dont use a flare they leak regardless..