Your BUYING and USING DeWALT 20V & FLEXVOLT Batteries ALL WRONG!

[@VCGConstruction]

Stop Overpaying for DeWALT, FLEX, Ridgid, and Milwaukee Tool Batteries! kzbin.info/www/bejne/q5-udaGPYtWlqNE

[@teter129]

Think you need a DIY/ Home Owner Best Dewalt tools video . . . not all of us are contractors, but still value this channel.

[@sswwooppee]

I’ve been doing a ton of work on decks these days, and I’ve logged a bunch of hours with my belt sander and noticed my XR 5ah battery has better runtime than my powerstack batteries.

[@kenethsoberano]

I have them all and the XR batteries are lighter and smaller in most dimensions in the 5AH size. We also get a longer run time from the XR over the Powerstack. The Powerstack is only great in the smallest form (2AH) for your compact tools. Powerstack has more power when fresh charged, but that reduces during use. The Powerstack is a short sprinter. The XR is a long distance runner.

[@JacobOverman]

The 5ah XR before powerstack was the best ever.

[@brendonburgin5250]

As just for D.I.Y jobs around the home I've gone for the Hikoki (formerly Hitachi) 18-36V range. I have 16 Hikoki cordless tools with a table saw being corded. As for the 36V tools they are, the larger circular saw, the big angle grinder, the belt sander, the chainsaw and the line trimmer. It's also nice having fast chargers for the 6 batteries. I'm glad the tool companies now have multi voltage batteries in their line up the convenience of just inserting a battery into a 18V tool then straight into a 36V one, great. I find the 18-36V is way powerful enough for the average D.I.Yer, of course 18V 5a/h means 36V 2.5a.h but then you up the a/h if you need longer run time.

[@lylewaters6161]

I’ve moved almost completely to PowerStack. I think I have 15 of the 1.7Ah ones and 8 of the 5Ah ones. I’m a bit disappointed that Dewalt didn’t make the warranty 5 years on the PowerStack stuff, especially since they claim that it can support way more cycles. The 1.7Ah is the perfect size for most hand tools for DIY use. I have an 11 year old 2Ah Dewalt battery that is still working fine so I feel like their batteries already have a great service life. I’ve had a couple of 5Ah batteries that died, but that was probably because I was trying to eek the last bit of power out of the battery and didn’t know the trick to jump start the battery from another battery.

[@champinsoccer9]

Love my 5ah powerstack. I literally just charged it today for the first time in over a month and I keep it in my DCF850 only and I use it everyday. Love the 1.7 too but it doesn't compare to longevity to the 5ah.

[@lylewaters6161]

I’m a supporter of PowerStack batteries, but I’m not sure how you can say with such certainty that they will last longer. Just because Dewalt says they will last longer doesn’t mean it’s true. It’s too early to tell. They claim double the charge cycles (or whatever longer lifecycle), but since we’ve only had them for a few years, we can’t really be confident that it’s true. If they really wanted to put their money where their claims are, they should have given us a 5 year warranty with these new batteries. Here’s a potential situation, let’s say I have 2 5Ah batteries, one normal 18650 cells, and one PowerStack. Let’s say I use them both and do 1,000 cycles (I’m making this number up, but let’s say it’s in excess of what we expect the normal battery to do). If you’re within the 3 year warranty and it fails they will replace it, regardless of if it’s PowerStack or not. If PowerStack is more expensive and you can get normal 5Ah batteries for significantly cheaper, I think going with the cheaper battery now is also a safe bet. As far as I know, and I have done a few battery warranty claims with Dewalt, they don’t check the battery to determine if it was cycled too much. I’ve never even had to return my bad batteries, but that might just be because I live in Hawaii and they don’t have a service center here anymore. They literally ship me a replacement battery via a freight forwarder and they have the tiny little box with the battery in it strapped to a half palette.

[@sharkskin3448]

Then there's the potential fire hazard in your trucks back seat.

[@neilmenezes7]

Dewalt has the worst warranty of all the tool brands across their entire range

[@rob-toolsandtech2521]

So far the only flexvolt tool I have is my table saw, so I don’t need many of those. I may get more, but in general 20v does the job for me for most tools.

[@VCGConstruction]

That's a good strategy for now. 👍

[@christophercrawford2736]

I think the table saw is what got me into the FlexVolt stuff.

[@nhinja]

Yes! I stopped wasting money 20 years ago when I invested in Ryobi 18v. After watching this video, I'm glad I did. Btw, it's "you're" contraction for "you are", "your" is possessive.

[@duhstea7070]

lol a bit of arm shake when holding that recip saw with one hand 😂 Great, and informative video though 👍🏻

[@CommunityCleanup]

Bro, that 54v saw weigh's a damn ton! Defo not a one handed tool... All my 54v tools are insanely heavier than the 18v versions. But loving that the flexvolt batteries work on all the 18v tools. 🙂

[@jpr0513]

I got a 1.7ah and 5ah powerstack for a total of $110. $110 for 5ah with the 1.7ah free. Got it on clearance and love it.

[@VCGConstruction]

That’s awesome, glad you scored!

[@jporreca32]

Great Deal!

[@jpr0513]

@VCGConstruction learned alot from watching your channel. First time home owner.

[@redsand848evo]

My local farm supply store had the 5ah powerstack for $90 EA and a 5ah and 1.7 combo for $119. I grabbed 2 of the combos

[@jetsetjoey]

*Why aren't these guys discussing the premature failure of FlexVolt batteries?!? Circa 10% of my FlexVolt 12aH batteries fail

[@masseyman3552]

@@jetsetjoey the premature failure seems to only happen with fast chargers, not the standard chargers. What have you got yourself.

[@davparksoh]

@@masseyman3552 Is a 6amp charger considered a 'fast' charger?

[@gpplacquet]

I hate the “power stack” “Power pack” are great. I don’t like how there is no 1 more screw. When it runs out of power it just stops. I know it’s a safety thing for the battery’s but man it sucks when the last screw needs to go in and you can’t squeeze out just a bit more.

[@ryandennis7853]

Agreed for the most part. Unless it's a Flexvolt 9ah. That battery has 3 rows of 21700 cells versus 18650 in the Flex 6ah. It's important for the battery to sustain the power level and not sag when you are working with a heavy load.

[@IsambardKingdom]

Over the years we collect more batteries than needed of multiple size and type with deals and new tools - hence I find that I have a complete library of all sizes - rather than stress about it I just pick a battery that will get the job done.

[@stevesutton772]

Hahaha. I was legit at my store and asked the counter guy "Does Dewalt have like a brochure so I can figure out what the hell is going on with all this?"

[@VCGConstruction]

😉

[@macd7743]

Haha... The short answer: NO! Sadly, it's increasingly rarer that a company actually brands and markets smartly, and with their battery lineup, DeWalt is on the shortlist for failing the hardest. At least their tools are excellent.

[@rosedoggydog]

Powerstack was a huge waste of time. 1.7ah and 5ah only. They were never clear on who it was intended for. In truth I love the 1.7ah for small jobs, and my impact. I did buy 4 of the 5ah Powerstack from HD only because they were clearing them out at $75 each.

[@74JB]

I see Jimmy with the Yellow&Black, I click like…simple

[@VCGConstruction]

Awesome, thanks!

[@jporreca32]

Thanks Jay! ⚫🟡

[@cmtkid]

Two different career carpenters say the power stack batteries have exploded on them when left outside on a hot summer day while i was trying to figure out which battery to buy at the store. They highly recommend them but be aware of 90+ degree days.

[@dpose6525]

We had those pouch style batteries for our R/C Airplanes and had to never charge them in your house or garage due to swelling and fire risks.

[@StefanJ.Jackson]

How’d Jim MISS the ONE REAL JOBSITE BENEFIT of DeWalt FlexVolt Battery in a FlexVolt TOOL?! Getting up to 60VOLT POWER from the Dewalt FlexVolt TOOL! My crew all agree running DeWalt FlexVolt Chainsaw or FlexVolt Hammerdrill with genuine Dewalt FlexVolt Batteries ADDS 60v POWER PUNCH! All admit running at 60v chews up battery runtime - up to 1/3-ish. We use DeWalt 8Amp & 12Amp Fast Chargers and have at least 2 FlexVolt 6Ah or 9Ah Batteries per tool. We got no real-job downtime for swapping out batteries in tools or in chargers.

[@StefanJ.Jackson]

Apologies to my crew running our DeWalt FLEXVOLT 60V MAX Circular Saws who blaze through just about anything faster, smoother than any other battery or cord driven circ saws we’ve ever run (especially with 9Ah FlexVolt battery (ver2022-2024). Incredible balance ‘tween weight & power.

[@rosedoggydog]

It should also be mentioned I've seen a KZbin video where a guy actually measured the the power output between the Flexvolt Advatage/XR/poweradvantage/powerstack. I will not be getting rid of the flexvolt batteries for my FVA anytime soon. I also will not be buying the power pack battery anytime soon either. The PP starts out at 8ah. A FV 9ah can run my FV/FVA/XR/Atomic tools just fine

[@SeleneHammer-pn8hr]

I run my 5ah basic dewalt batteries every day. Have never had one burn out and they still hold a good charge. The inly thing that eats them quick is my saw jaw and my grinder. I've got a bunch of 60v ones for the sds max and chainsaw I run. I've had one of those burn out.

[@richardwang474]

If you camp on the sales from different vendors, you can find the 5mp power stack for roughly $100 and 2 of the small power stacks for around the same price.

[@juliuscesar7126]

What website

[@jerryd0413]

Amazon

[@bobseguin2195]

Im still using the same two 2ah batteries on my drywall screw gun, since they came onto the market, and i do this for a living, 5ah on routers...

[@BoldWittyName]

I believe in the new batt tech, charge cycles etc. I question how overblown the efficiency is when i never ride my batteries that hard. They are never even warm when discharged.

[@gazbullen]

not strictly true on the charge cycles Lithium polymer batteries(which is wot is in the powerstack batts) and 18650 batteries typically have similar charge cycles, lasting around 300-500 charge cycles before their capacity significantly decreases

[@tonyc7352]

Another advantage of Powerstack that I don't think you mentioned in cold weather performance. Yes, they are not immune to performance decrease in cold weather but not as much as the cylindrical cells.

[@JacobOverman]

I’ve had terrible luck with the power stack 5ah so far

[@WhitenStefan]

@@JacobOverman how come? I’m ready to pull the trigger on x3 5AH’s and x5 1.7AH Power Stacks, KZbin reviews seem positive but I’ve been reading mixed reviews from real world users. Cheers

[@DugEphresh]

I love the flexvolt for my portable air compressor. Endless use, I am always thinking that something is wrong and it's not reading correctly. This seems and looks like a sales video to me. Thanks for your opinion. Project farm FTW, I can get actual data and test results.

[@thomaskubiak7019]

Just want to make sure I’m understanding this. A PowerStack will last 3x as an XR? Therefore spending $170-ish on a PowerStack is better than $300 for 3 XR’s. Just making sure I understand that’s what you’re saying.

[@RevilO5011]

Hi Thomas, I believe that you are correct in your understanding of what he meant. Li-ion (conventional cylindrical cells used in XR packs) tend to have higher ACIR (resistance) than a comparable Li-Po (pouch cells used in the powerstak batteries). The real-life effect of this difference in resistance is that a conventional Li-ion battery pack will get hotter than a comparable Li-Po battery pack, when attempting to discharge at the same current and voltage. This heat is bad for the cells, and is one of the key causes of state of health degradation.

[@RevilO5011]

Hope that helps!

[@caseygina3553]

👎🏻👎🏻 to PowerStack. The 5Ah PowerStack is incompatible with a couple third-party and at one DeWalt 20V tool - they just won't turn on. I guess the voltage might be slightly too high? The 1.7Ah Powerstack does work for those tools, but it's too small to be practical. I almost never think "gee, I wish my battery was smaller", and do find it frustrating to have it run out fast. My favorite battery for any tool is the 9Ah FlexVolt, and where that is too heavy or doesn't fit, the 6Ah XR. I have not tried the PowerPack, but I love a true 60V FlexVolt tool and can't see myself buying an 8Ah battery that doesn't support 60V. FlexVolt Advantage 20V just can't compare as they aren't putting thick enough wiring into the tools to deliver the same amount of power as 60V can. I can push a 60V tool harder and get the job done a lot faster, which seems to use battery charge more efficiently when the tool isn't struggling as much. Calendar aging, temperature extremes, charging/discharging too fast, etc. wear down batteries too - not just charge cycles. A higher-capacity battery of any kind will have the benefit of running cooler and not charging/discharging too fast - another reason I don't like the small 1.7Ah. I do have a couple and almost never use them, unless I have a really small job where I can appreciate rather than be annoyed by the size. Also, the 5Ah PowerStack is awkwardly wide and I prefer the XR dimensions.

[@sneaker.klinic]

Dewalt Powerstack, Powerpack, next up “Dewalt Flexpack”! 😂

[@jazzlouise]

Thanks for the clairification!

[@majkon93]

I'm about to buy a hammer drill as my first cordless tool, in the future I may get some gardening tools. I'm deciding between DCD796 (which is 30 dollars cheaper here in Europe) vs DHP485. I like Makita bcs they have a broader lineup of gardening tools and also I've read the dewalt has some QC issues. But I feel dewalt battery system is more futureproof, would you avoid Makita 18V LXT due to Dewalt more advanced and compatible batteries at the moment?

[@Brucedanforth3617]

@VCG construction can you do a review on best modular tool boxes

[@VCGConstruction]

Sure, we can do a follow up to the ones we’ve already done…

[@jackdaripper137]

Jim, you best be leaving the batteries and drills in an organized side position for better viewing or Vince is going to walk out there and adjust it for you. lol

[@VCGConstruction]

🤣

[@blackspectre6009]

Thank you for this video! Thanks god I almost buy useless batteries. 😂

[@VCGConstruction]

You're welcome!!

[@johnnygonzales3211]

Thank you my friend vest video on batteries I'm getting the dcf845 and I'm getting the smaller ones power stack.

[@pikachuthegayatheist6215]

No the 5 AH XR is going to like $150 at Home Depot and the 5 AH Power Stack is going $199 before tax in somewheres around $210 to $220 after tax.

[@Wesley-ly4uq]

My top 3 pick 12ah flexvolt, 1.7 power stack and 8ah power pack

[@yusip9328]

Thank you for the explanation

[@tomcanfield705]

So...my wife has a t-shirt that says, "I am silently correcting your grammar". Here we go. The blurb should say "You are, that is, you're, using..." NOT "your using..."

[@stevehufngel7221]

I just hope they won’t change the battery platform for the next 10 years or so. Xr works just fine for me one day I will invest in power stack once the old batteries die

[@Jester1427]

8hrs a day 5 and even 6 days a week 3Ah 12v (impact). Union Carpenter Interior Systems dealing with metal screws. 12v because it's right alongside my 3 Beam green laser. I do have an 887 w/ 3Ah in my truck as a back up impact. I also sometimes use my 996 w/ 5Ah batteries for installing "I" Lags with a screw pole (need a 1/2" chuck). 6Ah for batteries for long runtimes and I save my 8Ah for any grinding I may need to do. For any saws I go with the 5Ah.

[@2hotscottpro]

@@Jester1427 I have 14 year old 12v bats still working along with two brushed tools.Two black 12v bats may be older than yellow 2011 date.

[@T4RNmdcclxxvi4477]

Thanks for repp’n DeWALT jimmy!

[@tristanpatterson3843]

Is the warranty longer on the new ones?

[@juliuscesar7126]

Compare the new powerpack 8.0 to the powerstack 5.0 to the 8.0 xr and the 10. Xr and the 9.0 flexvolt!

[@jorglange2666]

I am done with DeWalt batteries, mine are all failing and Milwaukee is the same. It's just too expensive to buy new ones😢

[@Jay-jayy-n9u]

Nah just your dewalt batteries failed

[@Skinnymoose]

I hear you. They only last so long, and they're big bucks to replace. All my milwaukee batteries are going tits up. I'm ready to go back to the cord for most everything except drills and impacts. Circular saws, sawzalls, routers, all last way longer corded.

[@RobyWanKenobi]

When do they come out with 12v powerstack?

[@cornellmarino9287]

What's the difference between the power stack batteries and thepower pack

[@DGALVIN45]

Any size Flexvolt are my go to

[@nationlessnationalist]

Naming something flex volt when it's not flex volt is mental.

[@ZuluComander]

That's because he's got it backwards. From dewalts website "20V MAX* tools featuring FLEXVOLT ADVANTAGETM technology recognize FLEXVOLT® batteries to deliver more power than with standard 20V MAX* batteries†..."

[@CybekCusal]

I've had my batteries for 10 years and they work fine. I don't need a battery that lasts 40 years. There will be new tech by then anyway.

[@Skinnymoose]

Cool story bro

[@sprint2648]

I’m still using the original XR batteries that came with my tools many years ago. I’ve never had one fail and they hold a charge as good as new.

[@davedei3955]

If you love working, get the biggest. If you love charging, waiting, and whining, get a smaller one.

[@rockbreadbobo]

where I should go an buy dewalt battery original.... not fake??

[@Ron-tu3xq]

If your near a Bomgaars get the 60v flex saw. I got the kit 7.25 saw for less than $250

[@rockbreadbobo]

How to buy original dewalt battery online

[@TheKendal83]

Bruh, I've done hundreds of jobs with XR batteries and never had one just not work anymore. And if so it's been so long I don't remember or care. I'll stick with them then 2x the powerstack pack smack all that.

[@sasgaming9545]

Very useful, love from india

[@DesiveLara]

My 5ah power stack battery burned out on me a week ago only had it for 5 months 😭

[@VCGConstruction]

Have it replaced under warranty? How’d you burn it out?

[@lylewaters6161]

@@DesiveLara call Dewalt, they will replace it under warranty if your date code is within 3 years, if older than 3 years and you have a receipt showing that you purchased it within 3 years they will also replace it.

[@godzipgo2494]

You don't even look like you work in construction, you have that Forever 21 Employee look

[@DesiveLara]

@@godzipgo2494 what the hell does that even mean guy that was a huge 180 from subject about dewalt batteries

[@DesiveLara]

@@lylewaters6161 ahhh thanks for the information bro I’ll look into it tomorrow 🤙🏼

[@russellstewart9012]

It seems ridiculous to have so many different type of batteries. Milwaukee seems to be about more simple. Both are great brands and each have their own sector to really shine in. Am I missing something?

[@Aviation_Professional]

Anybody find any good deals on the Powerstack recently?

[@andymurphy8834]

one man cannot do that much work so its all about sales

[@BIGZOE]

Where’s the old guy that made videos

[@jackhinkle1401]

I have a 15 amp that is not even a year old that when it goes down one bar it locks out and most tools that require the power will not run them like it’s dead

[@VCGConstruction]

Have it replaced under warranty…

[@josephrottina1901]

Great job jimmy.👍🏻🇺🇸🇺🇸

[@jeffgreen2665]

Didn't really explain the 60volt tools that require flexvolt batteries that well

[@SpidermanandJeny]

That battery on a recip saw just looked silly. Idk when that would be the ideal way to do things. There are tools for something that big and that's not it.

[@gavhoffdrums3129]

If your buying dewalt your buying wrong, you don't gotta worry about a right and wrong battery with milwaukee, because they all work the same, they just have different battery life

[@christophercrawford2736]

Incorrect. I love my PowerStack battery on my impact and love my dewalt stuff. And my M12 vacuum and circ saw are horrendous with the CP2.0s but work great with the HO 5.0ah. Don’t be ignorant.

[@rohitnarayan3966]

I absolutely hate dewalt’s battery line up. The most confusing lineup. All the other manufacturers made lineup simple, easy and more powerful. I love their tools. Their drills are my favourite.

[@toddheimann8020]

@@rohitnarayan3966 DeWalt is simplifying the lineup because of this.

[@moisesrobles7884]

Bro I think that Dewalt is a very good tool and cordless is the new tool for are days more productive and more money

[@THEBEARDEDTOOLGUY]

Just Looking Forward to a FLEX VOLT 10 AMP POWER PACK I just can IMAGINE what it could do for my 418 DCG ANGLE GRINDER

[@MrMrfed]

@@THEBEARDEDTOOLGUY I think it's going to be a 12ah

[@Jspg119]

Hopefully they make tablets 60 volt batteries

[@moritaags38]

Those are pretty good batteries they last long time. The one that are very bad are the flex volt 6A.Hthose are the worst. Bought 4 of them they stop charging called dewalt custumer service. They replaced them and. Same thing happened they just stop working

[@McCerpa]

A lil too late. I already bought the Flex battery 12ah for 179🤔

[@mjc8761]

Thanks for the explanation! 👍

[@VCGConstruction]

You bet!

[@Average_Middle_Aged_American]

You're = you are Your = possession

[@eliakimbenishchayil]

It seems like the flex volt is the best.

[@thorbergman4632]

The "pouch" batteries aka Lithium Polymer batteries cannot take the same abuse as a 18650 or 21700 Lithium Iion batteries. If you are exposing your batteries to extreme cold and hot conditions, then the Lithium Ion batteries are the way to go.

[@Lesterman_1]

I'm just saying "that 9Ah FlexVolt is made of something else." 🤷‍♂️👍

[@krugerblue]

Listen, maybe it's just me but batteries are OBSCENELY expensive for most name brands. And don't give me the quality and cost, they are marked and overmarked up just because they can.

[@sukbajwa]

What ever keeps the weight down for me.

[@ScrapDaddy-mb6vg]

I scrap for. A living -If you break one open you will see the actual battery is made by Samsung- and I find more Samsung junk on the side of the road then any other brand. I won’t buy another dewalt again because the last 5 batteries 😞 failed. To be fair the dewalt tool was good just the battery’s are junk.

[@UpInYourFeelings]

Title triggered ocd, "You're* buying and using DeWalt batteries wrong."

[@VCGConstruction]

Huh? Were not using Dewalt batteries 🔋 wrong!

[@UpInYourFeelings]

@VCGConstruction I wasn't saying yall are, it was probably your autocorrect/word prediction that messed it up. "You're* buying and using DeWalt batteries all wrong."

[@VCGConstruction]

Oh thanks, your the best!

[@UpInYourFeelings]

Lmao

[@Danme1987]

You're* welcome

[@cynic256]

Wrong form of your in the title. You + are = you're.

[@GordonClare]

Dewalt heated jacket

[@grandpixel]

you're not really explaining what these things are

[@ScrapPalletMan]

Spelling error. You're and your.

[@Jragoonx]

Thanks for the info, but the title should be "You're"

[@Brucedanforth3617]

First

[@VCGConstruction]

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[@nicnotyourbusiness]

*You're

[@douglasbunch3313]

You’re*

[@VCGConstruction]

You’re what?

[@douglasbunch3313]

@@VCGConstruction literate

[@VCGConstruction]

@@douglasbunch3313 huh, what’s that mean?

[@FranklinVaquerano89]

First 😂😂😂😂

[@summittaedae2323]

Congratulations. I’m so impressed

[@VCGConstruction]

Notification gang in full effect @FranklinVaquerano89 ! You’re early, but not early enough, better luck next time. As a consolation you’ve been elevated to notification squad Commander! Now do your duty, share this video with 20 people right now! Thank you for your service!

[@FranklinVaquerano89]

@@summittaedae2323 thank you 🥲

[@qksilver123]

you're not your

[@TheodoreM-wp6cs]

No one cares if you’re first

[@Brucedanforth3617]

Did not ask

[@Jb305903]

Also a 5ah + 4AH + Charger is $100 at home depot.