ULTIMATE Comparison: Budget Xbox Pro Controllers From $25-$100

[@vhsodre]

Cuda, 8BitDo released an updated version of their Ultimate for Xbox, that now includes detachable cable and hall effect sticks.

[@vCuda]

My god how did I miss this. It's not a separate device, so I assume there wasn't much marketing but I still should've looked to make sure. Huge mistake on my part! Thank you for telling me about this. I will link it in the description! That puts it more in line w/GameSir's controllers, providing the sticks perform better today than they did when first used on the Switch Ultimate controller. I'll be purchasing one today!

[@vhsodre]

​@@vCuda They also updated that Pro 2 Wired for Xbox, adding a detachable cable, but this one still doesn't have hall effect sticks. I believe they released both not that long ago.

[@sbattosai]

It's not very good. It hurts my hands (a little smaller), like bad. Also the included cable is shorter than Gamesir's and for me, the major dealbreaker is the non reactive Y button when using the RB/RT buttons (I play efootball a lot). Gamesir G7 SE was better overall but had the same Y button issue. I returned both. Today I just received the G7 with microswitch buttons and I will test over the weekend but I am really hopeful it's going to be IT for me. Thanks for reading

[@n64slayer]

​​​@@vCudaNo fly didgi apex 4 or vader 3 😢 flawed review (jk i love u ❤️) Apex 4: $85 aliexpress, $160 amazon (if in stock) Vader 3: $50 aliexpress, $80 amazon

[@yeahboah307]

hey man between t4 kaleid and G7 SE which one shoukd i buy? for pc only, and appart from that, if i should decide between those 2 and the 8BitSo, which one would you recommend? @@vCuda

[@jacenchrisbaker]

All Gamesir has to do is make a 4 back button, clicky trigger, hall effect controller with their level of quality, and they immediately put a dent into the pro controller/custom controller market. That breaks the 'meta', and I think they will actually do it at some point.

[@eag8999]

Make one like that for $70 and one wireless with same refresh rate at $100 and it is the insta goat. Trigger stops would be cool too. I actually love the back button locks on my g7se for rocket leage

[@kwoni3337]

This, it's like they've all made a secret pact to not make the perfect controller, because once one of them does it all of them will have to follow suit.

[@snowwsquire]

with gyro and dualshock 4 emulation

[@snowwsquire]

and bind back paddles to keyboard buttons

[@camarochrislt1]

Might want to look at a flydigi vader 3 pro

[@Nickentowd]

was not ready to watch cuda standing up

[@vCuda]

Standing on controller-related business 🤓

[@LiljamezZz]

Hes so big 😍

[@kaistadler007]

​@@LiljamezZzbro... what!?!?

[@Thysonofchungas]

He can stand?!?

[@BRIGHT_LORD_C]

Should we stand too? Don’t want him to feel alone

[@quynguyenkhanh5983]

We are so back, i love you vCuda

[@DennisxDaring]

Glad to see you get back to it. Please know that we want you to be great and we belive in you.

[@vCuda]

❤❤❤

[@Argosh]

Me not even owning an xbox or a ps, or even actually playing games with controllers still geeking out about your content 😂

[@douglepong]

I bought the Gamesir T4 Kaleid because of you man. Nicest controller I ever used thanks to you.

[@CheersToYou007]

Too bad PS5 can't get this amount of love from you, Cuda, seeing that PS5 doesn't allow as many 3rd party controllers like Xbox does.

[@mechaboy0226]

They don’t ???

[@Ghosty2004]

Sony wont allow love so yea they're the only ones to blame lol

[@arcticowl1091]

Sony likes money, so they only want you to buy the official controllers mostly.

[@CheersToYou007]

​@@mechaboy0226 No, there's only 4 to 5 3rd party ps5 controllers.

[@77wolfblade]

Wasn't there an firmware update that damaged the third party controllers on the PS5?

[@death2abrahamism]

More than happy to be seeing these types of comparisons. Bonkers this video has been 3 years in the making! 👍

[@dw5617]

It is SO hard to find good info about these types of controller. You have more info than the product pages in a lot of cases. Thank you so much for doing these types of videos!

[@Bruvv0]

Love the videos met you a few years ago not sure if you still live in the neighborhood or not but your a cool dude

[@SleepyWindex]

The Vader 3 pro not being on here is straight robbery

[@mo_venegas]

...Xbox is in the title lmao

[@SleepyWindex]

@@mo_venegasit can work on Xbox

[@jedirayden]

Is that usable on Xbox? Genuine question.

[@SleepyWindex]

@@jedirayden yes

[@Viralityoflife]

I have the PowerA and I love it. Great controller overall, low latency.

[@xKHA0Sx]

Great videos and vibes! The GameSir G7 has been my go-to since last year.

[@candyman1310]

Yeah ever since cudas video on the g7 se I was lovin it but I had moved and forgot my controller at a friends house so now I either buy a new one or just wait like a year til I move back (I’m 100% just gon buy a new one)

[@xKHA0Sx]

@@candyman1310 It's a great one!

[@jaymes3939]

how is the wired connection holding up? i have a standard series X controller and the audio drivers/type C connection are failing

[@justinbostick4619]

Thanks!

[@vCuda]

Thanks my man! You didn't have to go above and beyond, but I appreciate it sincerely 💯

[@SonicCraft]

I'm curious about your thoughts on FlyDiGi controllers (Vader 3 Pro, Direwolf, Apex 3/4, etc.), do you have a video about those in the works?

[@vCuda]

Maybe Probably Yes

[@nextggz]

I love my Gamesir G 7 SE. It has been the best controller I've ever used since the Razer wolverine TE. All recommended by you. Keep up the great work.

[@slashfan1019]

My razor wolverine TE is starting to wear down (thumb sticks are peeling off and left bumper starting to work less and sometimes the x button near my left trigger gets stuck) after 4 years 😢. Too bad they discontinued. I was planning on buying the g7se because the paddles look like they’re in a similar position. Would you say the switch was easy and comfortable?

[@nextggz]

@@slashfan1019 yes. It's as small as the wolverine. I have big hands since I'm 6'5". The X button started to get stuck as well on my controller. That's why I went with the gamesir g7 SE. I love it.

[@nextggz]

@@slashfan1019 oh. I forgot to mention that the only downfall is that It can slip of your hands so getting the grips it will help.

[@slashfan1019]

@@nextggz sounds good, thank you!

[@Ejp23_]

Gamesir se or raver wolverine te, which one is better brand new?

[@rhoadsy]

After 3 xbone controllers failed on me, I made the leap to an elite series 2. Stick drift day one out of the box. I was pissed. Naively, I exchanged it instead of returning it, however, the spirit of Phil Spencer must've been watching over me since the replacement has been going strong for over a year now, which is an eternity in the elite controller world from what I've gathered. But, I'm walking on eggshells, just waiting for the day it dies. When it does, that G7 SE def has my eye. I always look forward to the vids, dude!

[@_wanderingrocks_]

Elite 2 would be perfect if they hadn’t cheaped out on components. I went through two in about a year and on both the bumpers started failing: first one after about eight months and the second one after only ten weeks of semi-daily use. I have a Vader 3 pro arriving today, sorry Microsoft, you really dropped the ball with Elite 2

[@christopherantoin]

Speaking as someone who only plays fighting games; the octagonal gates on the Gambit, and Pro BFG also from Victrix, are THE selling point for a fighting game pad. No one else is offering them for PC, Xbox, or PS controllers. Additional buttons, trigger stops, low latency, etc. are pretty much common place and while those are all fantastic features of a 'pro' controller, absolutely nothing beats the confidence you get during a combo than being able to securely slam the analog stick into one of those 8 beautiful corners. If you prefer a leverless or traditional arcade stick for fighting games, or you're playing anything other than a fighting game or classic arcade title, then you won't find them useful.

[@mister3speed727]

If you're playing on Windows 10, the Gamesir G7 SE can only go up to 500hz/2ms. To use 1000hz/1ms, you need Windows 11. I'm not sure about any other OS or the regular G7. I still highly recommend the G7 or G7 SE, depending on your preference. I'm using the SE on Windows 10, and I love it. Thanks for making these vids vCuda.

[@mister3speed727]

@@SanSan-fv1um I dunno.

[@olytorres4499]

What about on the xbox console?

[@mister3speed727]

@olytorres4499 I'm not sure. 500hz/2ms works fine on console, but iirc it disables the mic functionality on the controller until you set it back to 250hz (at least on console). I haven't tested the mic on pc, and I haven't tested the 1000hz/1ms mode on any of the consoles.

[@user-mi7nw5kt4w]

Your review of the g7 se convinced me to get one and I couldn't be happier with it

[@neat2014]

Hey, how is it after 2 months?

[@user-mi7nw5kt4w]

@@neat2014 still works great, no issues yet and I've been using it a lot

[@user-mi7nw5kt4w]

​@@neat2014it still works great, no issues yet and I use it all the time

[@pivad1388]

​@@neat2014 i have just g7, it's still as good as it was when i bought it. absolute zero regrets

[@Teeski4Wunna]

@@neat2014well I’ve have had mine for a lil more than a month and I’ve been playing fortnite everyday it’s def better than the regular Xbox controller and still working like brand new 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@mvpgigasimpakaHoltzmen]

Yo bro thanks so much this’ll help me pick me budget pro controller. Cheers mate

[@gojitsu305]

Can you rewiew the Snakebyte Gamepad Pro controller with hall effect sticks and 5 years of warranty?

[@KAAAANNIII]

I’m ngl, I came for the reviews, but stayed for the vibes. This was absolutely hilarious. Thank you!🙌🏾

[@BradyBeamZ]

5:42 I have that controller it’s pretty good but has a lot of stick drift now and I’ve only had it for 3-4 months so I gotta buy a new one already I’ll be buying the Game sir g7 now because I’ve been hearing a lot about it and a controller with no stick drift for 40 dollars sounds good to me

[@St0rmer66]

No Vader 3 Pro?

[@tnep69]

Just got the g7 se a couple days ago. Absolute game changer

[@BK-td6st]

Yessssir glad to see you uploaded bro 👊🏾 hope you feeling a little better and remember WE ARE HERE FOR YOU ! Great video and keep talking to us, see you soon ! 👊🏾❤

[@3191nato]

I had 2 Gamesir G7 SE's and both got the bad grinding on the left thumbstick at the top where it meets the anti-friction ring. I decided recently to try another one and this new one does not have the grind at all so maybe they fixed that but I can say that it is an awesome controller. Highly recommend.

[@lucadifelice3479]

How is the gamestr g7 se long term?

[@MasterChef1957]

8:36 I actually have this controller still. But after a bit over a year almost a year and a half i can report two recent breackages. The first was the right thumb stick breaking off... this was fixed with a toothpick (no im serious) widdled down to the perfect size and then shoved into the hold where the joystick broke...Still works really well. But the second breakage was the left bumper. Idk what happened but now it rattles and isnt staying properly attached to the controller anymore. Still works kinda

[@theshaunawagner]

Yes that controller is really well but the company spent most of their attention on the inside of the controller and how fast it is instead they should have spent more attention on the durability for it

[@Triro]

Glad to see you back vCuda. Also I don't know how long ago this was filmed. But I think Gulikit's KK3 should've made this list.

[@mkatakm]

G7 SE is a wired gamepad which is way inferior to V3 Pro. I know because I have both. Yet their prices are close. That I don't know why.

[@Jimcar777]

Which of these gamepads would be best for Street Fighter 6.

[@mkatakm]

@@Jimcar777 sorry I only play racing games.

[@antwong6999]

game sir is highly recomended due to his last review on them i picked one up. after about 7 months my right tigger stopped working and they worked with me and sent a brand new controller since the warenty was not up. Amazing.

[@lootorioust4668]

No gamesir T4 kaleid??? I’m confused because I thought you said it was like a better version of the g7 and g7 SE…

[@Ian-ox1hi]

It's always gunna be a good day when I wake up and see that you've got a new video out. I don't ever even need a new controller lol, I just enjoy your content.

[@clintmurphy5436]

I bought a Gulikit KK pro 2 because of you bro.. I beat it to death and it wont quit. I think it deserves a spot on this list for sure, Thanks bro!!

[@lildopey3204]

6:10 I've had the Gamesir G7 SE for about 6 months and it has faults in the bumpers. After all this time it's bumpers is the only fault i've had with it. Before that it was great, but i'd recommend getting a controller with more longevity

[@chito8313]

Man, you come up with some of the funniest things. No one else does humor like you 🤣. Thanks for these videos. As you probably noticed, I really enjoy them. 👏👏

[@adrianpuluse9566]

When does the high end controller video come out?

[@DemonidPvP]

Finally, i been waiting for this video for like 2 months, thanks a lot vCuda, take care men!

[@slumbur.]

ayyy bro is back, shit made me smile seeing an upload

[@711ramen4]

Your videos are a welcome alternative to me getting my FIFTH Xbox core controller.

[@lahso4274]

love you fam, we always here for you man, keep the videos coming

[@jamestoth2594]

You're the only one I found that actually made a video specifically for what I was searching for liked and subscribed

[@ULTRAKOPIA]

You're missing the best budget Xbox/PC controller. Which is called the "Snakebyte GAMEPAD PRO X" that has both Hall-effect Triggers and thumb sticks along with hair trigger stops and two remappable back buttons all for just $80!!!

[@hardtobearit]

Sorry I'm 2 hours late to this. I haven't slept yet so I'm gonna come back to this when I wake up. Big ups man.

[@hardtobearit]

ok fully watched. solid video

[@astrea555]

A sorely needed recap, thanks a lot and super entertaining to see once again!

[@ModderForka]

You are the only person i go to for checking out the gritty details on controllers.

[@homebrewGT2]

SE has the click buttons? I want membranes for abxy

[@outatim3216]

Glad to see you back keeping you in my prayers! Great video it was worth the wait.

[@Bryxn-dg2bk]

Has he released the other video for the 130$-200$ pro controllers?

[@bluntmanj1441]

I've been using my gambit for a year till the lb broke I emailed them and they responded pretty fast it took awhile to come but once I sent all the info they were pretty good so maybe they heard you! So thanks for that! Always love the vids and appreciate your input! Once my gambit goes I'm going with the new bfg for Xbox that one looks amazing! Can't wait to see your thoughts on it! Also I saw your going through some stuff and just wanted to say stay I know it hard but there's people out there who got your back!😊

[@CobraF1]

Really awesome video in terms of info! And very nicely produced 🙌 Thanks vCuda

[@Jimcar777]

Excellent video, which of these gamepads would be best for Street Fighter 6.

[@phillipstodgell7303]

Jacket still looks FRESH! Better late than never right!! 👏

[@Deriathan1]

I apologize if I missed it, but where would the normal original XBOX controller be placed?

[@gamingduck006]

Bro, I fucking love the Marty McFly 2015 jacket bro

[@clearvision-v5o]

the power a fusion pro 3 is the same cost as the game sir g7 se which should I buy Im thinking about the power a since 4 rear button's im switching over from the react R

[@lucadenniskorte8904]

U got a Link for the 130-200 $ range ?

[@cincocuervos]

Has the non-budget version of this video been released yet?

[@mightydazken]

I'm almost 2 years in using my Gambit with all 4 backbuttons. Essentially replacing the facebuttons for me in all shooters. I agree the top buttons placements are a bit awkward, but they still feel great for detachable buttons tbf. LB/RB breaking too easily is really my only gripe.

[@nicolasherrera5602]

Really appreciate your hard work and dedication

[@kevingauvreau2156]

What a comeback! Thanks Cuda!

[@MillerTheOriginal]

Where is your video for the next budget up? The only controller i can consider on this list is the elite 2 core just because i need wireless

[@jd3666]

Love your videos. Glad to see you back at it. The pre gain on certain channels is too high for audio. So usually i can crank my phone and do somethings else with fine audio. This one is scratchy? Its not really bad but it punches and has noise.

[@m2pmd70]

Thabk for the thorough review. I also appreciate your work with Thin Lizzy. ;)

[@MTM_Draws]

I have the G7 SE. For the first few months of owning it I really enjoyed it! I installed a pair of Kontrol Freek thumb grips on my controller (Playstation version of the thumb grips not the xbox version) and it worked for everything I wanted it to work with! That was until a week ago (got the controller in november 2023) when the A button stopped responding. Because this issue was most likely just a dirty contact on the board and it was super easy to get down to the thumb stick modules for cleaning I figured that I could do the same with the A button. Unfortunately, as soon as I removed the screws from the layer where the faceplate snaps into place, the controller just exploded. Do not get this controller! Hall effect sticks do not guarantee that something else won't fail over the same time frame as a regular controller!

[@garrettstrutz7421]

Well arnt u a smart one. Should have just sent it back for a new one on warranty. It comes with 1 year

[@MTM_Draws]

@@garrettstrutz7421 my point here is that it lasted about the same amount of time as a regular xbox wireless controller while also costing about the same when they are on sale and is not repairable by the end user therefore it was not worth it for me

[@jayceg.9180]

Thank you for being the best channel on KZbin for this content.

[@bob-q2n2s]

are the thumb sticks easier to click in on the gambit vs the default xbox?

[@clappingguys]

ty for introducing me to the controllers, watching the whole video 🙏

[@mrmasher1126]

rapid fast comparison. Thanks for the review bro.

[@Oliver-wx8sf]

Does the 1000hz in se matter when it comes to Xbox series x/s

[@danielnguyen102]

Love ya work mate

[@notprix]

you da GOAT cuda, we appreciate you fa making reviews dope nd entertaining to watch ❤

[@TM-pw6zb]

Glad to see you back at it! Love your channel bro

[@KB5G]

thanks for making this video, it helps a lot

[@ZGDX_Smiling_]

@vCuda The go to controller everywhere cheap I own over two hundred Power A Spectra Infinity and one Spectra Advantage-Lumectra

[@merciless972]

Great review, appreciate it!

[@LJLeeTV]

please review GAMESIR K1

[@fortypersec]

I'm using 8bitdo Ultimate X for almost three months now. One thing I notice whenever I connect it both analog sticks are very sensitive, the range becomes shorter. It happens every time I plug in the controller. So what I do to fix it is by doing stretches lol. Just moving the analog sticks sideways, up-down, and circular. Looks like calibrating the outer deadzones by itself. I do this every time after connecting. Mind you, the Ultimate Software X doesn't have that option. I don't know if the analog calibration actually works

[@kellhound8645]

I have the Power A Enhanced for Seris S/X, I don't get the no software statement. I have used the Power A app to adjust, calibrate, and update firmware on my controller 🤔..

[@codycroosh3073]

Surprised u didn’t include the Vader 3.

[@hadynbryant705]

Wich one has faster response time out of box no polling rates applied or changed

[@CosmicJubatus]

i've been hitting my head against the metaphorical wall of reseachin pro-controlers for PC, so this review & the next one are coming in clutch for me ¡thanks 🙏🏽

[@blicky308]

Broke my elite series controller , dropped it off at gamestop , got the power a enhanced for $22 bucks as a cheapo replacement. The back buttons are what sold me . I mapped one to jump and the other to slide for COD movement . I actually like the back button placement. I dont think ill have stick drift issues as i wont wear down the joysticks from pressing l3 and r3 . Once my elite series arrives im giving it to my kids to play roblox on pc since they like paddle jumping . They scratched that itch of wanting to try back buttons , the fusion looks dope but throw an extra 90 to it and you got an elite series . You're the best cuda !!

[@Waschbaer_Mann]

2:45 uhhhh, that's really cursed 😂😂😂

[@brody8857]

what about the Gamesir T4 Kaleid and the newly released (and name sharing) Gamesir Kaleid?

[@ca5ualm3dia]

im looking for the best d pad, why does gamsir g7 se have the hall effect stick but membrane dpad , and the the g7 reggy has the mechanical dpad ? does any have the the hall effect and mechanical dpad for xbox ?

[@ca5ualm3dia]

never mind they have HE version

[@matrixhasyou13]

I'm not sure if you use Kontrol Freeks, but maybe if you do, in the future, could you please let us know? Love your channel! Super glad I found it!

[@ZyIenor]

Hey Cuda, do Xbox or PlayStation Kontrolfreeks work with the Gamesir g7 se

[@MellowDaddee]

So what's your money isn't an issue controller to get?

[@peacebestill439]

Great video my man, really helpful and definitely sold on the Gamesir G7!

[@harunoderso]

wait for flydigi vader 4 pro. 80$ for pro controller with all the features and unable to get stickdrift

[@peacebestill439]

@@harunoderso that's amazing. I'd like to know what the build quality is. BTW, I'm loving the G7!!!

[@harunoderso]

@@peacebestill439 I bought it and it is amazing, would recommend

[@SkiFast-y4o]

These videos are great ! I bet if you were to scale back some of the language you would transcend all markets . It’s not selling out it’s selling up .anyways thanks for the good work and enjoyable content .

[@Gameclips-dn4zi]

I think you forgot to mention that on the turtle beach recon controller (I don’t know about the react r) can recalibrate the thumb sticks and potentially get rid of stick drift well at least it did for me

[@RadBlockerAddicted]

does the 1000 Hz polling rate work on Xbox?

[@pjslon9219]

Flydigit Apex 4 has solved the gradual loss of centering due to the spring loosening with its "flat bar return to center" mechanism. And it has hall sensors too. So, I believe it's the first pad to have solved the stick drift on the sensor and the mechanical level!

[@kirialex]

What about ergonomics? I'm looking rn for smthg more comfortable for adult hands

[@raphaelorozco7950]

love your videos they always make me laugh! and great and honest reviews too 👍🏻

[@ThePegcitydude]

Welcome back my friend!