Vedal Addressing The DM Allegations

Neuro -sama here / vedal987
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[@r29920831]

poor vedal, my bro just went from coding into interact with people, an absolute nightmare for programmer

[@destroyer2496]

Yep. Interacting with real people is a hundred times more exhausting than work.

[@fernandogallas7656]

404 :O

[@C1ontrol665]

As a programmer, I often need to interact with other people such as developers, other programmers, stakeholders, project managers, etc. So to say that interacting with others is "an absolute nightmare" isn't quite right, it's essential and comes with the profession.

[@uteriel282]

@@C1ontrol665 but you still rather wouldnt if you could

[@kewol5901]

@@C1ontrol665 Reading your message, You went for the wierdest point you could make lmao. It is an absolute nightmare, Nothing you said disproves that. You're just saying we have to do it anyway 😅

[@kazuma3966]

Shoutout to the random guy at 5:40 who said "code a manager" in chat. Truly a wise individual masked by the crowd.

[@rheatinacreatishia7636]

Imaginge having an AI Manager suggest collabs like the KZbin algorithm suggest videos. That would be wack.

[@harrygenderson6847]

It's too hard keeping up with all these messages. They take minutes each, and that adds up. Not to mention the stress of socializing. So why not spend months losing sleep to automate the process instead? Sounds about right lol.

[@oscarcacnio8418]

​@@harrygenderson6847 Ah. My logic in a nutshell 🙃

[@engineergaming1669]

Task manager

[@hermesthegreek5247]

@@harrygenderson6847 Why lose time sleeping when you can code another turtle to sleep for you? Smh

[@luigiclone0286]

Im even surprised Vedal does... anything really. He is just a programmer, he is doing so much work out of his field of knowledge and doing it quite decently.

[@Archedgar]

True but also on top of that, zero yabs thus far and I have a hunch vedal will never have any yabs in the future either.

[@ironbear5723]

He's actually doing a great job being the best girl 😂

[@mr.mk7323]

​@@Archedgarhow would vedal do any yabs in the first place.There isn't anything that can cause a yab in his case

[@IRCraziestTaxi]

​@@mr.mk7323 I mean, there was that thing that got Neuro banned when they started... granted, that wasn't Vedal's fault, but still.

[@tidedetergentyummy]

Wtf is a yab

[@gnorse373]

as a programmer you have 2 moods: -completely obsessed with whatever project it is you're working on and will work on it nonstop for 12 hours a day -completely burnt out on programming and wont write a single bit of code for the next 2 weeks

[@fraktaalimuoto]

Extremely true. Saying as someone who writes very complicated physics simulation code for the living.

[@punpunpunyama9271]

i feel this as a musician too

[@dapperpotatoes8473]

I never felt so called out before

[@jayzenstyle]

Are you effing spying on me?!

[@S41BER]

Im self aware about this too like I will feel a burnout coming and just not even slow down like any normal person would 😅

[@Xaddgx]

Why are people complaining about a turtle being slow with response time?

[@jocosesonata]

I hope the uploader hearts your comment.

[@TheLegendaryUriah09]

I see what you did there lol

[@laughlez]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH

[@NoireDust]

Vedal might need a manager or assistant at this rate since he’s already got so much on his plate already

[@F34RDSoldier805]

I don't get why he doesn't just hire someone to help him on the management end. He clearly has too much to do with the coding alone.

[@mattroxursoul]

Evil Neuro can handle his socials. She has a way with people.

[@nogan974]

​@@F34RDSoldier805 that means wasting money that this corpa turtle doesn't want to lose!

[@NoireDust]

@@F34RDSoldier805my funny response is Corpa reasoning But I bet one of his moderator or friends would be willing to gain some side hustle money for this job

[@ergoproxy-gx2cq]

​@@mattroxursoulshe's known for being diplomatic

[@irinechemist2550]

Bro is just a programmer. Don't pressure him too much. Poor turtle.

[@divinity_4]

Skadi pfp :O

[@a1pha_star]

Poor tutel. 🥺🐢

[@irinechemist2550]

@@divinity_4 Kyaaa Skadi XD

[@snowthemegaabsol6819]

do not tap the glass, developers scare easily

[@KimKim-im4rz]

This damn tutel can't say, "i love you too," to neuro.

[@theweebdev]

As a fellow programmer please just let Vedal code when he wants lol If you overwork him, he'll be like "f* this" and you won't be seeing him again

[@yamiru3417]

the programmer mindset fr

[@Troglodytarum]

Sounds like the mindset of a failed coward.

[@coughins]

as a fellow programmer myself, i can relate to this and its 100% true

[@lightning2665]

Well hello there

[@nickolidavid5116]

This is an underated comment that I wish to be expressed more in the fan base.

[@josephbutler4950]

The thing is, vedel already is at a disadvantage towards other vtubers because he's using neuro as the streamer. Other vtubers can just bring themselves and do anything, but neuro is very limited compared to them. All she can do is talk (of which she is great at ) and play a few games terribly. That partof the reason our turte boi has it really rough. Proud of him for all he's achieved in spite of all that though.

[@0n_in]

I mean, he could play games himself. I know he's busy programming as well, but at least he's just playing games

[@Gotz_the_iron_hand]

To be fair, she plays OSU really well since that was kind of her point of origin.

[@thatboi134]

@@0n_in His whole brand is basically Neuro and not himself, although viewers enjoy Vedal himself, most people outside regular viewers don't watch for him. Unfortunate but I'm sure as long as Neuro exists, Vedal will get more comfortable with collabs.

[@IRCraziestTaxi]

implying Vedal isn't a veechewba

[@0n_in]

@@thatboi134 He already played a couple of games with Neuro. CoD Zombies, Truck Simulator, KSP and not sure if iirc, but he also did a PUBG stream with Neuro. If he's already playing, then that would be an easier stream to do and plan, plus more content than just a Just Chatting stream. There was precedence anyway

[@fullstackweebdev4855]

It’s safe to say there will never be a Vedal and Pippa collab, since both of them have the same timeframe for responding to DMs

[@Sand7Clipper]

trust me, Its pretty normal for programmers to just hard fixate on a program for days, poor vettle has to do that while managing neuro and streaming himself

[@Mr_Bimble]

I get the impression that getting collabs organised is as complex and difficult as trying to organise a D&D games night with your friend group when you are all in your 30s+

[@fraktaalimuoto]

Ouch. I felt that. 😅

[@innerbeast415]

Honestly? Just have to play campaigns that have a strict end date. 1 month, 2 month, or 3 month once a week commitments . Can’t play campaigns that go on until “whenever they finish” when people have kids, spouses, careers, and other things.

[@GraveUypo]

i'm feeling that on just regular online games. i tried for half a year to organize a simple pavlov game night and i failed. i just gave up now, i'm waiting till i can have AI friends that can play with me on whim instead. meanwhile, single player it is.

[@TwistedSynn]

Can't really bash Vedal here for this, for I've gone months without checking emails, twitter messages, youtube messages.

[@kingssman2]

Most Vtubers have 3 years to get to a 4k view average. Vedal has done it in less than a year. It's not like he has an Agency/manager/corpo/assistants in his back pocket yet.

[@BladeWalker91]

I read "corpo" and think "what does Arasaka has to do with anything?" 😂

[@JACpotatos]

​@@BladeWalker91they only care about one thing.... Damn corpos

[@IzameBirb]

@@BladeWalker91bro same, whenever I see "corpo" "corporation" or "corp" all I'm thinking about is cyberpunk xd

[@mundylunes7755]

For vedal it's really due to the novelty of using AI as a vtuber so that's just comparing apples to oranges.

[@Aeikon]

​@@IzameBirbI kinda wonder if Cyberpunk had anything to do with popularizing "corpo". If so, why isn't everyone calling their friends "chooms"?

[@Mutualititve]

Imagine dreaming to become a coder so you can avoid talking to people, only for you to become an entertainer instead. Hey, at least Vedal seem to be enjoying it.

[@creeperbros-dg9jr]

When i started watching neuro it was for the quirky, unhinged ai we all know and love, but i stayed yo see how vedal succeeded, it kinda upsetting to hear him actually be stressed out from the expectations he has set himself to, its incredible he has gone this far by himself

[@zowie.nvermind]

Some people stop watching her because how "censured* she is now, i know it was funny when she didn't have the filter she has now but idk, I think she's pretty cool now too

[@wessltov]

@@zowie.nvermind Since back when you wrote this, he has given the Neuros enough common sense that he now started nerfing the filter. His hard work truly paid off!

[@verdatum]

Bye Callum.

[@Pudding404]

Of course Tenma fricken calls him out, that woman's got the filter of the Bing search engine, haha. Sigma turtle rule, have them wait for your reply, knowing damn well you will forget in an hour.

[@thetalkingbear]

Vedal reminds me of an absent-minded professor type. So much to engage with mentally plus social interaction. That's a big ask.

[@aoihitori]

Probably he doesn't had time for managing his social media. I mean anyone could tell he is a busy guy.

[@Xelief]

Bro needs a manage but is in denial 'bout it

[@mk_gamíng0609]

@@Xelief Vedal did say he is looking into it but its not that easy A bad manager is worse than missing 1 DM

[@aoihitori]

@@Xelief you just can't pick anyone for that role, it is still a personal account with his email on it so he needs someone who really fit for the job and someone trustworthy.

[@aoihitori]

@@mk_gamíng0609 exactly. 👌

[@taile4114]

@@Xeliefbro needs more braincells

[@timpeschke5054]

dude programmed an AI girlfriend not to text irl chicks and now he has to text with real life girls anyways

[@misterdeer5261]

sigma rule: don't respond to girl

[@swampcooler8332]

Can I respond to real man that became best girl?

[@3ggY]

Only business

[@ls200076]

Smegma

[@itsericsfault]

What does Mega Man X have to do with anything

[@thederp9309]

Become the girl 😎

[@thegwallitn5337]

bro went from showing off his cool ai project to having multiple women fighting for his attention

[@lonewolfhero3526]

He's living the dream (or nightmare) of every programmer.

[@alexturnbackthearmy1907]

@@lonewolfhero3526 More like both.

[@rolandkarimdesucatan5118]

​@@lonewolfhero3526the dream for every man, the nightmare for every programmer

[@moofy69]

Several women and zentreya

[@ForsakenLiye]

⁠​⁠​⁠@@moofy69so several demons and zentreya

[@HallidayASR]

Vedal's got so much cooking right now that his pots are overflowing... I just hope he knows that we appreciate his hard work, and that he should maybe consider getting an assistant

[@999porte]

wow poor turtle is overworked

[@dtzyYT]

Lol missed this! Just love how 10ma is now getting the spotlight she deserves!

[@azutsukimiya]

I think Nagzz already gave Tenma a great amount of exposure

[@mr.mk7323]

​@@azutsukimiyayeah true

[@TheDremCatcher]

Vedal is literally one person guys, give this turtle a break. He is literally trying to please chat and people who wants to collab as much as he can and he is not being appreciated. I am a basic coder and the fact that he is able to do this shit and not get enough praise he deserves is honestly sad. I hope he finds someone to help manage to lessen his stress

[@KyokaSamins]

Vedal has some extra helpers to help him code I think (just pointing that out, I know vedal does mostly everything himself but I'm just pointing that out, I"m not suggesting to rush vedal, I'm just saying. Please don't take this out of context)

[@vipsnap2707]

​@@KyokaSaminsI'm gonna take this out of context, I can't believe you would say that

[@calabazar876]

​@@KyokaSamins I camt believe you did said that. Trully and you are a bad person

[@KyokaSamins]

@@vipsnap2707 What'd I do?!

[@Zoruk_]

​@@KyokaSaminsyou're an irredeemable monster

[@groerhahn225]

Seems like Vedal treated his DMs like *puts on sunglasses* an abandoned archive. *YEAAAAHHHH!!!*

[@Yonatan-jv8mv]

10:15 Neuro wanted Vedal to work harder in developing her

[@MXCN_El1011]

6:06 turtle going from : D to >: ( back to : D in about 2 seconds killed me

[@Zaxus]

Chat: "Get in contact with an uncontacted tribe." Me: "Historically, the British don't have a great track record with that..."

[@luke_fabis]

Given that Vedal is using a cute turtle for an avatar, sometimes I can't tell if he's being 'super serious' or 'haha not serious but no, actually kinda serious'. Especially when Neuro makes funny little quips, like a child misunderstanding what her parents are discussing.

[@moreno2880]

he should really look for a assistant or smt like that to manage things like his social media

[@mk_gamíng0609]

Vedal did say he is looking into it but its not that easy

[@h-grid3137]

Just give them few Lambos, easy

[@moreno2880]

@@h-grid3137 true

[@nulnoh219]

He'll probably code another a.i for that. Social secretary.

[@chaosmastermind]

To be perfectly honest, I haven't checked my email for like 5 years.. so I think it's fine. The man is a genius, and he has very important things to be doing. He doesn't have time for idle chitchat. If people had lives, they would understand.

[@ItsMeCharkey]

Bro I legit feel so bad for Vedal he’s just one guy y’all gotta chill he don’t gotta force out sm content guys He’s a human like us and this stuff is hard to take hold of y’all be less demanding

[@L16htW4rr10r]

If you are talking about the chat, I think most of them are joking

[@ItsMeCharkey]

@@L16htW4rr10r yeah but still even then I feel like the chat should at least be a bit more tactful in tense moments like these cause it’s hard to tell sometimes

[@shanadir]

He's a turtle, not a human though...

[@cactusbread2215]

​@@shanadir even worse! poor guy

[@ls200076]

Some people from chat just don't care.

[@Sceptidule]

Sigma tutel behavior

[@FoodBitss]

poor vedal :( he's doing his best

[@arisenspirit]

I love how the entire time vedal was saying that he wasn't going to have a collab neuro would respond "you can just stream with me" she's so sweet

[@Blackout_]

If Vedal was Australian he could blame the internet

[@shanadir]

Blame... Brexit?

[@LukSter18998]

he can still blame canada

[@viltautasYT]

blame canada, theyre not even a real country anyway

[@Just1barofsoap]

The music is so fitting.

[@FarkylkSilvan]

I would watch Vedal play KSP with Neuro every week. No collabs required. Do your thing in the time it needs Ved.

[@mudrockprojekt_red1603]

Its sad hes getting all this blame when clearly most times its because most people think neuro is a super advanced A.I but my dudes still needs to code in alot of things for her to do as an A.I she is still new to the world and she can't play to many games yet! so collabs are limited to what neuro is able to do! But its also has to dude with the fact my dude is doing alot by him self! In the future when she gets more advanced and she able to play more games and do more collabs stuff like this will be easier! People expecting too much from an AI that literally just came into this world..... technology and AI is still developing we're not that advanced yet but we will get there at some point in the future!

[@jayzenstyle]

Also, Vedal is one person. ONE PERSON CODING AN AI. An AI meant to be more humanlike at every iteration. Of course it will take months.

[@tlk889]

Vedal my man you gotta plan at least a month in advance 😂 Just sacrifice a week and get your scheduling sorted out. You can't live week to week like this, no wonder you don't have time to sleep

[@fluffy1876]

More power to Vedal

[@user-vu5nn6do1v]

I feel scared to watch new Neuro collabs to be honest because it hurts to see Neuro be made fun of or get hated by the guest 😢 This is why I hope it would be the guest that initiate the collab so we know they are prepared to be more patient when collabing with Neuro; which means we don’t rush or force a collab. That is also why I’m sure many of us cherish Vtubers that have had great interactions with Neuro. Also personally I kind of think it might be good to have Mods collabs because that way we can guarantee their level of patience with Neuro.

[@jomujomu7513]

Neuro’s popular enough where the collab guest knows what they’re getting into. Vedal said vtubers DM him for collab request too. So, I don’t think it’s an issue with vtuber collabs. However, I do worry about how a collab with an IRL streamer would go, and I share your concerns there.

[@LagiohX3]

u mean like that gameshow neuro was in?

[@Qopa]

8:00 one guy in chat at 8:15 "just program it?" Bro, what is this guy smoking lol. They really think programming an AI is that easy? Vedal has to basically program an entirely new AI for every new game she plays. Not a lot of programmers can even pull that off after a month or even half a year to make it perfectly work. It'ss amazing to me that vedal is doing all of this by himself.

[@ZeroRelevance]

To be fair, language-based AI are a lot (and I mean a *lot*) easier to program than game-playing ones. Language models can just take something like, for example, raw calendar data and recent text messages as input and select good collab times out of the box. It would probably take more than a few days to set up a basic one, but likely not more than a week or two. I think it would be a high-reward idea for him.

[@BHBalast]

​@@ZeroRelevancemak8ng proff of concept woukd także 2 Days but testing the system and evaluating it could be months...

[@robr135]

Stop pressuring him chat! Quit being demanding!

[@sketchystruggles5361]

Sure he’s suffering from success, but don’t harass the guy.

[@viltautasYT]

suffering is just that- SUFFERING

[@Filthy-Peasant]

there is but one thing to do - get the GEEGA as your manager, done ^^

[@kolmo3182]

Been there missed some dms I can no longer answer sadly hope he can get a good assistant

[@Dennan]

as an invert, i do the same things to my friends often, im not proud of it, but i do like my alone time.

[@gingeral253]

Turtle be missing

[@generalirons9789]

Ah fuck. Here's the issue now. Vedal, the madlad that he is: A college student(maybe) A very good and busy programmer A famous streamer A pioneer and the head of AI development in the entertainment sector Among other personal things in life. Lads, I think Vedal needs a break and/or someone to help with managing other aspects of VTubing.

[@leovang3425]

He dropped out of college. He does take vacations but he does have a lot to manage.

[@alansmithee419]

Great way to start addressing allegations: "I just want to say I find these allegations very amusing."

[@conorireland185]

Tenma-Vedal-Neuro drinking stream when? Drunk Neuro when?

[@entropy404]

Not Neuro cooking him at the end there 😭

[@zhaowarudo9753]

Vedal should start a subathon where all he does is sit there to code with mediashare and Neuro in the background

[@phantom_5055]

Nuh uh

[@calebm9000]

I feel bad but Tenma screaming at him in the background is hilarious

[@d.r2533]

Keep doing you bro!

[@generalgarchomp333]

The "aim higher" at the end fucking got me.

[@NoMouthNoScream]

This guy!

[@fabizey]

Neuro + Evil Nero is technically a collab :P

[@Knoxerboy101]

Vedal might really need to code himself Manager Neuro to handle all this new responsibility. Answering DM's in a timely fashion as an introvert turtle is hard, man.

[@Archedgar]

Allegations about drilling neuro ?! oh wait, Evelynn already confirmed. RIP tutel-san.

[@harukatakahashi8822]

Vedal should text to vtubers who reacted to Neuro Sama, himself and Anny and other vtubers in the collabs

[@ithildiess8305]

Angy turtle 🐢 Don't piss of the turtle. Neuro meanwhile: Cool cool cool cool cool cool *irritated turtle noises* Neuro : yeah Yeah yeah yeah yeah. Chat give the turtle a break.

[@Gojiradogzillagodzilla]

"She said things i cannot legally repeat on stream" LMFAO

[@kuratowakiru]

6:15 aww. The daughter wants to collab with her dad if there no-one available

[@b-ranthatway8066]

Just take your time and one step at a time. No need to overburden yourself man. ✌

[@Etiluos]

collabaton!

[@richie0099]

He needs to organize things a bit better that’s all create an email for collabs communications only and a calendar for future collaborations and add them there receiving everything by dms is a mess with all the other stuff he might be getting there it gets lost if he doesn’t check it regularly

[@franks777_KFP]

Exactly. It's nothing that hasn't been done a thousand times before. Just needs a little experimentation of what works and weekly time dedicated to it. The advantage he has is that he has a lot of freedom to decide how much time cuz he doesn't work for a boss.

[@Brownie69571]

​@@franks777_KFPthe problem i see in this is. Many people are not going to be okay with a streaming break or other Things of such matter, yes its a problem relativly easy fixed but vedal wants to please everyone and thats not gonna work. That is also an entirely different problem that also needs work. So yes he dosen't have A Boss but a whole community is sometimes less forgiving than one simple person

[@tvftw1]

Neuro trying to be supportive as he approaches a breaking point, but then "Aim higher"

[@jlxgaming1219]

I think 🤔 I've seen this before... it's look like the lead man on No man's sky...feeling .. hmmmm let tutel cook...as introverted programmer I do my own thing by my own pace ..nvm...keep doing your best vedal...

[@kevlarandchrome]

6:23 Stupid linear time, it's such a pain in the ass.

[@user-qh6sg1dp1o]

From May? Goddamn, Tenma took that personally.

[@GraveUypo]

i have this same difficulty, exactly same level of difficulty, just playing games with my friends. that's why i'm going to replace them with AI as soon as i can. i'm tired of that shit.

[@SwiftViper]

Bro innocent

[@opside231]

Neuro vs chat is free content

[@Dorian_Scott]

I think Vedal just needs an assistant or two. That way he can code and interact with other people more easily.

[@walkingdisaster8479]

man's need a cold one and a recliner

[@uuu12343]

That sudden russian "What ze FUCK" killed me ngl

[@wolfsage95]

Tenma never forgets she never forgives

[@yuzeles]

He can just ask if they wanna collab and then decide on a date bro

[@drakevoidwalker]

6:17 ignoring his daughter again smh. She answered all of his problems right there smfh. How're you gonna get cancelled in an apology video 😞

[@marvinmuhring]

And that's why you need a manager

[@Mondoness]

lol Based Tenma

[@drakenastee]

Vedal obviously is stressed out over all this like it’s obvious, but what I think shows more is how hard he is trying to give people what they want while also having it to where it works out for those collabing with. It’s no secret people want to be involved with Neuro, the AI is beloved, it’s pumping so many views with the streams and above all is excellent coding done by the man himself…however, he is one man it’s not a full team it’s just him and for him to forget messages while pushing content out and overall go over his limits to entertain you can see he is at the point where it’s getting too much and it’s showing just with how he’s reacting to all this, like at some point you gotta give the man some slack as he’s improving the code, pushing content out and generally making it to where these collabs are able to happen. Honestly I just feel sorry for the fella as he’s really not getting the recognition and gratitude for what he’s doing, instead he’s got people in chat saying “just build a manager” like yeah you are trying to be funny but coding a whole AI isn’t just a snap of the fingers and boom there’s a AI, like let the man have a break or couple of days off so he can sort it out or find someone suitable to help him like ffs don’t hound him for more.

[@S7E_Siriel-Privat]

Hint: just message like 7 VTubers a week but tell them different days and adjust your own schedule to that. Ez

[@Mr_RayzFox]

Only has time for collabs with fox girl wife, actually not messed up 🐢

[@enigmagrieshaber5555]

Wtf Even I struggle with simple CRUD and people expect him to respond? Like dude I cant respond for 48 hours just for troubleshitting (i put shitting since it was a simple mistake I make when I coded simple cout into cin 2x in a row yeah I'm stupid af for not noticing it) That took me 48 hours yet people expect him to respond while lookin to AI code which is mostly Python

[@jayzenstyle]

Python for AI? Seem better the less complex the AI is, but once the code gets chunkier... you may run into slow performance issues.

[@Felnier]

Just give Neuro more power and allow her to handle your dms haha

[@spazmat857]

I love these two they are so cute

[@dhgmrz17]

Idk, maybe the streamers were just being tongue and cheek about it. That said I feel like it's kinds entitled to expect him to respond to them about a collab, he doesn't really owe them anything.

[@christophermonteith2774]

the lad really needs a helping hand

[@rjwaters3]

may?!?!

[@smaragdwolf1]

i think its time Neuro get a new "Sibling". A small Neuro that pops up, whenever a DM rolls in. Then she notifies him verbally until he reads the DM. I think a good phrase to get his Attention is "Hey! Listen!" XD Imagine a small floating Neuro on his Devices and for each DM, she says "Hey! Listen!" on repeat until he opens the DM XD

[@NefariousElasticity]

Chat was spamming this when Vedal was talking about stream ideas for collabs, but a D&D collab with Neuro seems really fitting. She should be able to keep up since it's mostly just talking, right?

[@harrygenderson6847]

She may need a lot of help from the GM, but it should work. But then Vedal either needs to prepare and run a D&D campaign, or find someone else willing to do so.

[@Nitrex725]

Crazy? I was crazy once.

[@allenellisdewitt]

This entire clip is just proof why Vedal honestly needs a content manager. *shrug*