THE GREATEST BATMAN MOVIE OF ALL TIME

Gotham's Dark Knight has appeared in many movies over the years. From Batman The Movie to Zack Snyder's Justice League.
But out of all these movies, I think one stands above the rest.... that movie being Batman Returns.
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[@brandonspain12345]

Fun fact: Both Tim Burton and Michael Keaton prefer Batman Returns over the original movie. And it's not hard to see why.

[@Ian-hj4yt]

I like both, but i admit i still prefer the first one because of the Joker. If he was alive in Returns, it would easily be the best Batman movie.

[@brandonspain12345]

@@Ian-hj4yt True. I would LOVE to see Nicholson's Joker talking to DeVito's Penguin and Pfeiffer's Catwoman considering they all worked together in different movies before and after this movie. Especially Jack and Michelle. I think they did 3 films.

[@taufikrahmanthegamer]

Despite they prefers Batman Returns, I'd say Batman (1989) were much better than Batman Returns in my opinion. Danny Elfman scores, the Batsuit, Jack Nicholson and his Joker, the Batmobile chase, the fight at backalley, Batwing goes up to the moonlight, everything was a masterpiece lol. It's impossible to not love Batman (1989). It was a masterpiece movie directed by Tim Burton himself. In fact, Batman (1989) was my first childhood superhero movie I've ever watched in the 90s that I admired and inspired a lot to this very day.

[@Wortwort-Spooderbat]

@@Ian-hj4yt that would cutter up the movie like Spider-Man 3 with too many villains. If we did your idea mate batman returns would end up being the Spider-Man 3 of batman. Really enjoyable but too much crammed in. So nah returns is perfect as is without unneeded additions .

[@archie1205]

and Robert Pattinson too

[@HunterShark300]

This is the most unique Batman movie ever made with a perfect blend of noir and horror.

[@ne3856]

And it also has some very unique versions of different Batman characters.

[@HunterShark300]

@Scott I know, I'm extremely excited for it.

[@jasonhebedead1710]

@Scott and a noir too

[@anthonygordon9483]

That is because Tim Burton literally puts the Goth in Gotham City. All of Tim Burtons films are Gothic and his style is replicated more than anyone's simply because Tim Burton was born to make Batman. It is just a damn shame white moms during that time complained about the film being too dark cause I honestly think it would of gotten better. Only reason Tim didn't continue doing the films. Tim Burton actually wanted Batman to be more mature and dark.

[@HunterShark300]

@@anthonygordon9483 100% agree. They should get him back to make a Batman Beyond movie.

[@clown599]

this masterpiece here in Europe is like a cult... pure art at its finest on screen in each scene. Never understood why in Usa is not loved that much... I'll always prefer the 1989 one just thanks to Jack/Joker but yeah, Returns is THE Batman movie.

[@moonknight4053]

That’s real good to hear, I’m just happy I grew up watching this, also Knox, old man Keaton as Bruce, Selina, penguin, etc should be a new series…

[@thatdestinyaddict3212]

Probably because batman low key kills a ton of times in the films

[@theitfactorjameswheezer2852]

This movie is awful. 10000 plot holes, dumb continuity awful portrayal of penguin

[@MrAdamloring1985]

I’ll tell you why. It’s too long. The characters act nothing like the source material. Penguin is a gross man beast that wants to run for mayor, and if that doesn’t work kill every first born son in Gotham. Cat woman is. A zombie Rosen from the dead by cats and has literally nine lives, and Batman is a murderous monster. Michale Kenton looks confused, and everyone else is over acting like crazy. I could go on, but I’ll save you the time.

[@clown599]

@@MrAdamloring1985 I can't see honestly low points here.. Thanks to that is a masterpiece. Probably not for anyone, for sure.

[@TheBeird]

Age has made my appreciate this movie more and more. It's dark, it's funny, and it's kinda perverted. It is an absurdist fairy tale for adults, starring Batman characters

[@MR.GOAT.]

Same, as a kid I didn’t care for it.

[@anthonygordon9483]

@@MR.GOAT. As a kid I loved it. Schumacher films were the worse. I was very disappointed when Michael Keaton stop playing batman. When I saw Tim Burtons Batman it felt like batman. Even though the source material was a little off, the style of the film is pretty much the archetype of a batman film. It also set the standards for super hero films in general. What super hero film now doesnt use Muscle Suites and Rubber for customs. Batman was the first to do it. Plus this was also before CGI.

[@biguy617]

I blame Disney for Burton’s Alice as much as I blame Tim Burton.

[@tizianoferrigno588]

Blame for what? For creating a masterpiece? While the original story is crap for dumb kids? Dude grow up

[@Knightfall-Batman]

This Batman movie was an absolute masterpiece in my opinion. And I’m glad you got to review it Also, Vee, you forgot to mention one thing about this movie. Originally Max Shreck was supposed to be the brother of penguin. The story was he was the prodigal son of the family whereas penguin was the black sheep; however, they didn’t go that route.

[@narcisosanz8137]

Oh, it's a bummer they didn't take that route. It could actually add some juicy, juicy drama to the story and make the Penguin even meaner 😈

[@Knightfall-Batman]

@@narcisosanz8137 hell yeah dude

[@reviewskingdom8779]

I like how serious and dark this movie is and in the middle of all of it there’s “Eat floor” I love this movie so much

[@TotallyNotTheRedComet69]

This is my all time favorite movie. Gotham is dark, brooding, it’s murky, it’s dirty, it’s gothic. Something modern comic writers can’t seem to understand. And throughout the 3 Tim Burton involved batman movies I think it captures that perfectly, and I love them for that.

[@pedroenciso9082]

"You gotta admit, i played this city like a harp from hell!!!"

[@KelvinMMoore69]

"Stinking city." Please, don't forget the "stinking," lol! 🤢🌃

[@pedroenciso9082]

@@KelvinMMoore69 lol...I stand corrected

[@MrAdamloring1985]

He says from a custom made, coin operated bat mobile, that he keeps in an RV, that he uses to take control of the bat mobile, that was hacked by a circus hand, with no known engineering or computer experience, by plans they found in the Gotham Patent office. God I hate this movie.

[@missxspencer1538]

*DJ scratch*

[@johnhickey8321]

Genuinely think Returns is the closest Batman movie we have to the comics even with the slight deviations in story and characters. I'd love to see Tim be able to do a DKR movie with Michael!

[@MrAdamloring1985]

Slight deviations? It’s cool you like the movie, but this movie is nothing like the comic.

[@johnhickey8321]

@@MrAdamloring1985 well considering I've read most of the Batman comics from the 30's to the mid to late 2000's. I stopped around the New 52 era, there are a lot of similarities between Batman Returns and certain arcs and stories surrounding Catwoman and Penguin. Obviously Max Schrek was created for the movie and his name is a homage to the original Nosferatu actor of the same name. So yes, slight deviations.

[@MrAdamloring1985]

@@johnhickey8321 really? In what issue is catwoman a zombie risen from the dead by cats? Where is penguin an actual deformed half penguin half man? Please show me any similarities, cause I’ve been reading and collecting since 1990, and I don’t really see any.

[@johnhickey8321]

@@MrAdamloring1985 you're taking it too literal. That's the slight deviations I was talking about 😂 I'm talking in terms of story. Not character traits 😂 after Batman Returns though the penguin was turned a little more towards the version in the movie. In the TAS he had the same type of hands as in the film. The characters origins though are changed a little for the film but the characters and personalities are pretty consistent with the comics. Just penguin for some reason was given a gang suited more to joker than himself. Other than that though the story and characters are pretty on point. Especially the themes of duality with Batman and Catwoman even being consistent with their comic counterparts today. And the darker tone was consistent with how the comics where changing from the late 80's and early 90's. Good Times 😁

[@MrAdamloring1985]

@@johnhickey8321 Penguins origins are totally different in the comics. There, he’s just a short chubby guy, who has a hip defect, causing him to waddle when he walks. But he is very smart, well spoken, and a crime boss. In BR, he’s born a foul, gross, slobbering monster, that eats cats, and raw fish. And as for Catwoman, she’s never struggled with the notions of being Catwoman or being a normal citizen. She’s always loved what she does, being a burgler, and even when she’s doing good, she loves the thrill of it. There are no questions of duality with her. On occasion Bruce will have a crisis, and wonder if he should stay Batman, but that’s about it. And as for story non of the things in this movie ever happen in the comics, our side of a character named Batman, another named Catwoman, and another named Penguin. That’s all the movie and the books have in common.

[@GregOrCreg]

Great work in getting Robert Wuhl's opinion, and, I know you'll disagree, but I think he has a point about the Burton/Schumacher series getting progressively worse with each hour. I love Batman 89 and Batman Returns (and unlike Wuhl, I even have time for the Schumacher films), but I do think the first hour of Batman 89 is the tightest in terms of storytelling throughout the entire series.

[@jwnj9716]

Batman Returns is my favourite Batman movie. I just love the atmosphere, the gothic look or setting, the villains and the awesome soundtrack by Danny Elfman. People say oh it's not Batman movie this time, it's more of Tim Burton movie, good. McDonalds getting pissed because they can't sell their happy meal toys, good. He's taking risks and making it dark. It gets a lot of hate which I'm confused. All three characters worked so well. Danny Elfman had to create themes for Catwoman & Penguin. They're memorable. It's easily one of his best scores, highly recommend especially the Birth of the Penguin and his death which is still one of the saddest endings to a villain. It gets me every time. Well maybe the penguins moving his body is a bit silly but it works. It's not easy making the audience feel sad to a villain's death which is something fans didn't expect or want to see. Burton took risks, I'm so glad he did. I cant believe Danny DeVito got a Razzie nomination. You guys are the same idiots who nominated Kubrick & Brian De Palma for worst directors. Including Ennio Morricone's score of the Thing. The costumes are great even the Bat suit improved. The origins for our villains are told well, both of them are memorable and yet again, the soundtrack makes them even better. Catwoman's origin might be a creepy to some, her first attack with El Scorpio from Predator 2 might be shocking to some especially kids. She's full of surprises. It was fun seeing Christopher Walken, I can't believe his son is Leatherface or Zangief from Street Fighter. Lucky dad. Then again, Penguin's dad is none other than Pee-wee Herman. Batman's introduction is sweet and badass. So many memorable shots & scenes. Burton really took it as far as he could. Although there are some silly moments like the villains getting the blueprint of the batmobile, its still a dark film, so you kinda get a comic book film mixed with Burton's dark side. Overall, a fantastic underrated sequel that went to a new direction and managed to make the comic book characters a bit more interesting like the Penguin. Unfortunately, this is where the darkness stops, too bad, even as a kid, I loved it and still do. Sometimes I wish he continued with the sequels, Burton's version of these characters are unique and they stand out. You might love Nicholson's Joker more, just don't forget the Penguin & Catwoman. Funny, as a kid I thought the baby was Batman, when the title showed up with all the bats, it looked like the baby was going to the bat cave. Its weird that both Batman films have great quotes with the word Honey in it. One coming from Joker and the other from Catwoman. And who could forget those cute little penguins with their rockets. Aww they're going to kill the children. Plus the Circus gang looks like Joker's henchmen. I almost forgot the silly pictures of Christopher Walken with Arnold, Elvis etc. Classic. And yes, he does say unlimited poontang. Always take risks, forget about what McDonalds think, pussies. Michael Keaton should have done something since he was the Founder. As Orson Welles once said to Ed Wood, "visions are worth fighting for".

[@krillian23]

" What you put in the toilet I put on the mantle." "Remember, what you flush, I flaunt"

[@Scarecrowbooger]

20:00 The Masquerade Ball scene with Bruce and Selina is so great it made me forget that they're dressing up in masks in December 😂

[@joshjohnson3442]

The Dark Knight is a great “Joker” movie, even more so than Joker, which was good, but Heath still nailed it better. Batman Returns is a great Batman movie and showed was a Batman movie should be like. Corruption, crazy scary villains, a Bruce Wayne always at wits ends with wanting to be normal, but can’t, much like how Vee points out the conflict in Selena Kyle and even how they say it in the film “were the same, split down the middle” Funny how it’s one of the most “true to a Batman style” films but it always gets overlooked and called “too dark” but it’s perhaps the best adaptation of the Batman comics done on film, aside from The Animated Series, which had more material to work with to make as a series than a standalone film.

[@MR.GOAT.]

Not really, Batman’s more of a reactionary character in this movie rather than having motives. Love the movie still.

[@edinshealtiel3754]

BINGO ...... AND BEST CATWOMAN FILM. BEST PENGUIN FILM.... BEST LOOK - FOR DARK COMIC... MOST FUNNY .... BUT ALSO A LITTLE CREEPY.... BEST MOVIE !!!!!!!!!

[@andrewdonnelly8199]

"I mistook me for somebody else" is one of the best Freudian slips in cinema.

[@leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259]

Yesterday I was literally thinking how this is or might be the best Batman movie for the music alone

[@spenser9908]

Some of Elfman's best work, in my opinion.

[@leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259]

@@spenser9908 the Danny elfman Spider-Man theme is what reminded me of it. They're similar. It's not obvious til you him the Spider-man theme then it becomes the penguin theme

[@leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259]

This movie made the comic Penguin into a much better character. And I think we all know how amazing Michelle phieffer was as Catwoman. And I find her far more interesting here than the comic version. I mean I like Anne Hathaway's version which is true to the comics but I just like Anne hathaway, the character itself isn't as great. I like The Long Halloween movie version idk Batman Returns is the most interesting version to me.

[@MarshallSparrowfan]

The snow with the Gothic theme is the best. Would have loved to see Burtons version of Mr. freeze

[@bvigil1888]

13:22 Fun fact, the actor who plays Chip Shreck is Andrew Bryniarski. He also played Leatherface in the Texas Chainsaw Massacre remake opposite Jessica Biel and I fondly remember him as the live-action Zangief in Street Fighter the movie. "QUICK, change the channel!" lmao

[@yomanh]

I feel like one cool thing is that devito could easily reprise the role even now and still fucking own it, I’d love to see another quirky source accurate Batman movie

[@jswatch9270]

Fun Fact: in the early draft of Batman returns Christopher Walken's character of max schreck was suppose to be the penguin's long list brother.

[@CaptainTae]

It’s definitely underrated

[@mamodokod]

I want Vee to review the 1990 Flash tv series and the Adam West Batman. Hes already done Birds of prey theres a few more of those oddball campy super hero shows that hes yet to talk about. As well as Lois and Clark the new adventures of superman, which ive personally been watching and genuinely enjoy a LOT more than i thought I would.

[@grzegorzmj4881]

These actors' cameos are amazing, really raising the overall great quality of your Batvideos ;).

[@claymathewselevator8121]

I enjoyed Robert Wuhl’s cameo in Crisis On Infinite Earths

[@christopherballero866]

Burton did a really great job on his Batman movies granted at the time Batman's no killing policy wasn't as established as it is now. The idea of Burton doing a hero movie without the hero killing was probably never going to happen. Perhaps do the original Ninja Turtles movie as it came out around the same time and is very dark for a hero movie also do Ninja Turtles vs Batman

[@1stKindChris]

Vee didn't focus on the ball scene between Bruce and Selina enough for me. Masterclass in acting and probably some of the best dialog in any batman movie

[@tornadochaser2457]

It's a great scene. I love how Bruce and Selina's aren't wearing masks because they're really wearing their masks in reality.

[@Nick_C1997]

I think I heard that Harvey Dent was originally going to be included but was replaced with Max, the explosion at the end of the movie that killed Max was supposed to scar half of Harvey and turn him into Two-Face.

[@zolo120mil]

Greatness video Brother!! The movie still holds up 30 years later!!

[@TetsuoAAAAAAA]

the outro is still so god-damn good

[@David-re6in]

That cameo was really cool

[@rh457]

The dark Knight has to be my favourite batman movie and I'm not going to explain why. I can't be bothered.

[@Ian-hj4yt]

Lol

[@thisisnotachannel]

You can't be bothered because you like a shitty Batman flick?

[@filmaticpictures9693]

@@thisisnotachannel shitty? Seriously lol. Just because it’s not your favorite doesn’t mean it is by any means shitty. And if you qualify it as a shitty “Batman” movie, then you could argue the same for Returns-Just in a different ways. Sure it matches the tone of the character and his world, but the depiction of the characters and their morals are completely different.

[@missxspencer1538]

😂😂

[@Dissection39]

Definitely one of my favourite Christmas movie, I get drunk, put on Batman Returns, then put up my white and red holiday tree. It gets better ever year. I don't know about best Live action Batman, but I can say I have watched it many more times than all the others, due to my yearly tradition.

[@D123-f9k]

This has alway been my favorite of the old Batman movies too

[@fettbub92]

The Robert Wuhl cameo was a great treat for Burton Batman fans. Was a good message too. I love Batman Returns, and Michelle Pfeiffer is the definitive Catwoman, yet to be dethroned. Also, Danny Devito was great, despite the wierd interpretation.

[@m.hreels9822]

I love when you talk about anything Batman related!

[@RamielDerLinke]

I love this movie. It's probably not my favorite Batman movie but it's definitely in my top 3 with The Dark Knight and The Dark Knight Rises. I'm also excited for The Batman. That movie has the potential to become one of the greatest, maybe even the greatest Batman movie ever.

[@christopherb501]

20:40 The concept, for those not remembering their SAT words, is "verisimilitude".

[@jpz2009]

SAT?? I learned that word thanks to A Series of Unfortunate Events!!!!

[@yashmandla1234]

i personally wouldnt mind seeing danny divito come back too play more of the snobbish gangster if he's given the chance

[@SeasideDetective2]

I'm pleased to say that he came close in the scene that shows him and Batman confronting each other just before Catwoman shows up. You can see that he's trying to come off as a well-spoken politician there, even if it is a phony act. He even pretends to be a good guy in the shooting script: "We'll be working hand in glove in Gotham's glorious future." I just wish that scene had not been pared down so much in the final film. And ironically, in that scene I think Tim Burton missed the chance to do something truly Burtonian. BATMAN RETURNS is "Gothic" in terms of its thematic content as well as its décor, with literary allusions to Milton, Coleridge, Mary Shelley (what with all the FRANKENSTEIN imagery), etc. But what about William Blake, an often overlooked "children's poet" who, in his masterwork "The Marriage of Heaven and Hell," proved himself to be TRULY Gothic? The Penguin is supposed to be an eloquent bookworm and (in this film, at least) very much a "satanic hero." So I can easily imagine even the DeVito version of him retorting to Batman's "You're not mayor" with " 'What is now proved was once only imagined.' - William Blake." And then, when he said "You don't really think you'll win, do you?", Batman could fire back with " 'Everything flows.' - Heraclitus." Granted, that would sound more than a little awkward coming from Michael Keaton's mouth, and Burton's not known for being a connoisseur of either English literature or Greek philosophy. But I find that a lot more interesting than both of them saying "Things change." And it would not only suit both the character of the Penguin AND Burton's Gothic affectations (well, at least in the case of Blake), but demonstrate that the Penguin and Batman were intellectual equals.

[@sanghoonlee5171]

Certainly the most stylish and atmospheric Batman film ever. It bored me as a kid--and blew me away upon a rewatch as an adult.

[@jacobwilson7030]

This has always been my favorite Batman movie

[@noneed4me2n7]

Wow I graduated in 92 from high school. Way to make me feel old Vee. Thanks for the content.

[@lowlowseesee]

im 43 and batman was the first movie i saw without my parents in theater which is still in my mind a big deal. these days when i revisit these films.....part 2 actually competes well with part 1. back in the day i would clown the shit out of batman returns but its so fun it holds up.

[@gandalfczarny2289]

For me not only the best Batman movie of all time, but also the best superhero movie of all time. I just love everything about it - the atmosphere, characters, actors, music, visuals. Just everything about this movie screams "STYLISTIC". Yeah the script have some problems, but goddamnit I still cry on the Penguin death scene despite his monstrous plan. This is where you know that you watching masterpiece!

[@ChiefReinhart]

Couldn’t help but agree

[@kontrolzee1761]

8:08 Is that Joker's mum talking to catwoman? XD

[@andrewcozzini8259]

I have to admit, for years I didn't really much care for this movie (relative to Batman movies), aside for the aesthetic. However, in like the last year I've come to appreciate it for the gothic elseworld movie that it is. Still a bit dark for me in places, but it definitely holds a unique place in the Batman mythos!

[@-Anonymous-.]

Same fam, same. Except the darkness for me was perfect

[@marcusjackson9076]

Great review. Always loved this Batman film. Great to see more love for it.

[@matthewsmith3078]

14 years before It’s Always Sunny, a show that as of now is more than 14 years old.

[@noneofyourbusiness1114]

Aye a shadow of the vampire and Halloween resurrection shout out! Very underrated flick's! Would be cool if you did a video on both of those forgotten classics.

[@Gh0stbumbles]

speaking of 4k ..the 4k of this is amazing. it's really close to the original print I remember seeing in theaters.

[@claymathewselevator8121]

I’m happy Robert Wuhl showed up Knox showed up in Crisis On Infinite Earths

[@RM2011ish]

Batman Returns is more of a Tim Burton movie than a Batman movie, but I honestly love that about Returns. It depicts Batman, Penguin and Catwoman all as rejects, victims of Gotham City who deal with their traumas in different ways. It was definitely the most unique of the Live action films, and something a lot of people weren't ready for.

[@redkalel]

My favorite movie of all time

[@dankmdunn4725]

This and the 1989 batman with jack nicholson are the ultimate batman movies in my oppinion , pure magic

[@TheHeroHaven]

He’s on to something saying they drop in quality every hour he is definitely on to something

[@pklentertainment5147]

Great video. Batman Returns is a stunning film and really doesn’t get the full recognition it deserves. Both DeVito & especially Michelle Pfeffier are iconic in their roles👍

[@rayzorduality2396]

In my opinion, what was attempted with the tragedy, vengeance, and romance of Selina in Returns was executed better with Andrea in Mask of The Phantasm... Like Returns was the Blueprint that walked so that Phantasm could run. I just felt more closure and somber satisfaction with Andrea no longer being able to see Bruce again because she was consumed by her darkness that Bruce couldn't save her from and the scene when Bruce discovers the locket in the Batcave and silently weeps to himself because he knows that she is gone forever, he wiould no longer know her warmth or her wit. He accepts and the Dark Knight launches himself into action, and continues his crusade against crime if but for one more night. Whereas Returns gave me more questions than answers.

[@tornadochaser2457]

Andrea and Selina feel very similar. I might even have analysed to see if Andrea was inspired by Selina, as I've seen inspiration for films from other films before - *SPOILER ALERT FOR TIM BURTON'S PRIOR FILM, EDWARD SCISSORHANDS* - For instance, the Penguin is evil Edward Scissorhands, having the same rise and fall from grace arc, and being revealed to and then retreating to their private lair story that Edward has. However, this is already a clear impossibility, as Mask of the Phantasm came out just a year after Batman Returns.

[@MrGlasspider]

Good point about realism, always thought Nolan went in wrong direction with that.

[@tornadochaser2457]

All these different styles make things interesting, it would be boring if everything was the same. It's why Marvel, though with Chris Hemsworth leading the way, wanted to spice things up with Thor: Ragnarok. What matters is that the style is done in a way that's well-suited for the material.

[@MrGlasspider]

@@tornadochaser2457 Well, that is a good point too.

[@tornadochaser2457]

@@MrGlasspider LMAO "good point"?!! It's an AMAZING POINT! I should run for president and rule this country, with you all KNEELING BEFORE ZOD! ... damn, did I say "Zod"?!! Power corrupts so fast. I'd like to withdraw my campaign.

[@laurenced2916]

My nose could be gushing blood......

[@limegreensquid]

100% agreed! I was 12 in 92, and didn't know much about Batman before watching it, other than the silly 60s show, which i liked, but knew wasn't really Batman. And Batman Returns is still the best! The soundtrack is also amazing. I highly suggest the theme of Selina's transformation, and the Cobblepot tomb medley. I have it on my phone and it had been a long time since i watched it or heard the soundtrack, but when "The Cemetery" started playing, i didn't recognize the intro, and was like, "This is clearly Elfman... But what movie is this...? It's so beautiful...." Then i hear the penguin undertones and am like, "What? I'm crying over a PENGUIN song?" It's truly transcendent...

[@TheWaynos73]

DeVito really looks like Lon Chaney in London After Midnight. as you say - pure nightmare fuel. Max Schreck is terrifying cos hes a real world villian who doesn’t need to wear a mask.

[@derloco2035]

So much this! IMO the Tim Burton movies are still the best movie interpretations of Batman and Batman Returns is a timeless masterpiece.

[@handsomestik]

Pfeiffer in the dance hall scene when she is losing it is fantastic.

[@richie2x4]

These Cameos are god tier 🔥🔥🔥🔥!!! Lol

[@isaac_alexander_v]

Upon rewatching Tim Burton’s Batman films, I found that instead of being a crime epic or a C student football player’s cgi interpretation of a the next big super hero movie, Burton approaches Batman through lens of fantasy and arthouse. They don’t constantly hit you over the head with dialog explaining plot details or character motivations at every moment, they’re not huge cartoon set pieces trying to come off as a live action spectacle. Instead of telling his stories through dialog and cgi clusterfuckery, Burton does so through stunning visuals and subtlety. The dark knight is probably the better film in terms of accessibility, but if you’re judging the Batman films on pure art, I’d say Burton’s films are the better of the lot.

[@Harri927]

It's my favorite Batman movie of all time too and also my 3rd favorite Christmas movie.

[@tornadochaser2457]

What's your 2nd and 1st favorite?

[@jasonpratt5126]

Today I learned that THE TRUE UNSUNG TRAGIC HERO OF BAT85!! has a cameo account.

[@niktri8312]

The scene where the penguins have a funeral for the Penguin is the greatest Tim Burton moment ever. Fight me

[@MrAdamloring1985]

It’s stupid, and you can tell that the penguins are little people in costumes.

[@tornadochaser2457]

It's certainly very Tim Burton. It feels like it should get bonus points for existing, since it's something I never thought I'd ever see, and is done very well to boot.

[@tornadochaser2457]

@@MrAdamloring1985 Actually, 30 African penguins, and 12 king penguins were used, but a combination of men in suits, robotics, and CGI were used for the more difficult scenes. "stupid" you say? Well, it's all a matter of perspective. One man's brilliant fairytale storytelling, is another man's silly nonsense.

[@MrAdamloring1985]

@@tornadochaser2457 I’m talking about the stupid water burial done by emperor penguins at the end, not the parts where they are running around the city.

[@tornadochaser2457]

@@MrAdamloring1985 I know.

[@retroshot9725]

This is my actual favorite batman /Christmas movie

[@jakeel85]

By far my favorite batman movie.

[@marcacosta7594]

Where does Vee get those wonderful cameos.

[@thomasgoree7976]

I wholeheartedly agree with you I sooooooo love Batman Returns

[@nicholasbagley160]

Dude loved this video, thanks for the laughs, great work. Couldn't have been said better.

[@tric5122]

I think you nail why people like the first 2 batmans, while not liking as much the Nolan series. They brought the batman comics to life instead of bringing batman to life. It's one of the reasons the DCEU doesn't work well, you cannot have superhero's in the real world, it doesn't work, none of it works. But a live action batman movie that feels like it's bringing Gothem and the batman series alive does work. It's live action roleplay done by professionals. I have said in the past that the first 2 movies are the only ones worth watching until Nolans and stand by that, I think you make a valid point that this movie is better then 89; and I believe that has to do w/Burton getting more say and control in this movie, where the studio wasn't 100% sold on the idea in 89, which might be why some of it didn't work, but this one did. Agree w/Nox and Dent not being in here, I have to think both would have been anxious to revise their roles. Would have loved to see this catwoman more also, not only is Michelle one of the greatest actresses of the 90's, she really did bring a believable life to catwomen before and after. I think she is a perfect example of getting the most out of a part, even if the part isn't 100% accurate, and why you can either like/dislike the other versions of the Joker, you can respect what each brought out based on what they were asked to do.

[@ymirs4400]

It’s kind of silly how burton gave every character animal characteristics, like how Batman sleeps upside down, the penguin eats raw fish and catwoman licks herself and purrs

[@STARK0181]

Yeah. it's pretty dumb

[@robertmckinnon7003]

It's not Halloween in December. It's a Masquerade Ball. That's why they aren't doing Halloween type costumes; Jack O'lanterns; and there's nothing spooky.

[@2texastornado]

I love Tim Burton's Batman and Batman Returns. Vee you are one of my favorite youtubers

[@acimagination7982]

when I was younger i loved this movie and as I got older my love for batman returns didnt change at all. had it on a old used vhs tape from block buster video and then eventually got it on a special edition dvd at least. that shows my love for it. prefer cat woman in this than in the dark knight rises. not all characters look good in a grounded in reality comic book universe. but thats me. plus as I got older my appreciation for certain things are noticed like the ice queens legs in pantyhose. hehe. it is a comic book looking world dark or not. plus got to love that line bruce said to alfred. "security? who let vickie vale into the batcave?"

[@cameronrobinson3933]

Batman Returns has always been my favorite Batman under standard I've held that man's up to. Even the original Batman with Jack Nicholson isn't my favorite even though it's iconic I like Batman Forever at least when it came out when I was in my Jim Carrey phase. I love the new Batman movie with Robert Pattinson oh, I enjoyed Ben Affleck as Batman even if I didn't like the movies around it but I can say I barely likes the Dark Knight trilogy The Dark Knight itself I find halfway watchable only when the Joker's on the screen. But there's a special place in my heart for Batman Returns. I love the opening score I listen to it at least a couple times a month and especially around Christmas. I love Catwoman and I thought Danny DeVito was an amazing choice to play a dark penguin and I even really enjoyed Christopher Walken's part. It's the one Batman movie that I don't ever get bored at any point. The first Batman movie bores me to tears and The Dark Knight movies bored me to tears but I can watch Batman Returns anytime any day. I don't care what anybody says nobody's better better Catwoman then Michelle Pfeiffer, tho the current Catwoman is also crushing it

[@alphamoose4385]

This is actually my second favorite batsuit.

[@canadamike7461]

I just watched this again a couple months ago. Catwoman is absolutely fucking great! She eats up the scenery and really doesn't get any of the credit she deserves for her work in this movie.

[@tornadochaser2457]

From what I've seen, people love Michelle's Catwoman, I just hear praise.

[@QuartuvLarry]

Holy crap! Robert Wuhl looks so much like Stephen Root here! They should play siblings or something!

[@shakaomni]

I'm glad you share this opinion. I've seen too many KZbinrs talk about this movie and bash it as if they didn't love it the first time they saw it. Danny DeVito was horrifying, Michelle Pfeiffer was magnificent. Walken was at his most villainous. This movie was great.

[@roguebritgravy1]

The stand in was actually a model

[@logansorrell8828]

Agree with a lot of this! Batman Returns is my favorite of the Burton films for all the reasons you mentioned. It's a big improvement in the first and Burton was allowed to really give us his interpretation of Batman!

[@domingocepeda2283]

It's my favorite Batman ever and for one reason only is Mitchell as Catwoman and Michael as Batman...

[@sydude666]

I LOVE THIS MOVIE!! I like Batman 89 but this is easily the better of the Burton films

[@SilhSe]

0:28 Dudes getting some acting lessons 😂🤣

[@zeldagameryt4018]

Well for the Penguin and the clowns I read of a comment on Nostalgia Critic video of Batman returns that it sounded like they gave Killer Croc’s backstory to Penguin

[@baileymoore7779]

It's funny to think some mom took her 8 year old son to see this movie and he later asked "Mommy, what did the Penguin mean when he said he wanted to fill the ladies void?"

[@incendiesproductions]

One of my favorite films out there. And honestly Batman Returns is always neck and neck with The Dark Knight for me as far as my favorite live action Batman movies thus far. Gotta say, Matt Reeves' The Batman looks VERY promising to me!

[@avace917]

You know what I did NOT notice until your analysis? Bruce and Vicky do the nasty yet they had barely any chemistry. Yet Bruce and Selina didn't, yet they had more chemistry than any other live action Bat Couple

[@geardog24]

Oh the irony, everyone loves Tim Burton's first Batman movie but the problems with the second one is why we got Batman Forever.

[@h.jlathem2194]

Did u know that batman’89 was being heavily re-written WHILE shooting so that might have made an impact on production and the reason why there were changes to joker also cat woman was the original villain for Batman returns but the studio wanted the penguin so burton wound up doing both also I think penguin runs with a circus because they are “freaks” just like him

[@Rozza2k]

Crazy to think this came out a year before I was born and it still holds up, so creative and dark for a comic book movie, danny devito is so underrated as the penguin and Michelle Pfeiffer in my opinion is still the best Catwoman by a long way but the whole cast are brilliant. "It could be worse, my nose could be gushing blood" 🤣 "next time....i'll throw her out a higher window" "oh yeah in not married"

[@Kerbyrocks]

I love your point toward the end. I have always said I prefer the Burton Batman movies because I want my comic book movies to feel like a comic book not real life. After the dark knight I wanted to cry. Burton dark and Nolan dark are 2 different darks. I Loved Pfeiffer’s Catwoman so much my family calls me Catwoman to this day. .

[@willdonahuedirector3154]

this is my favorite Batman film joint with dark knight but this is my personal favorite

[@woodyburns]

No insecurity or doubt in Batman 89? Umm, the apartment scene with Vicki, the flashback scene in the Batcave…..

[@baileymoore889]

finaly someone else who agrees i love batman Returns it's my fav batman movie

[@bvigil1888]

One of the other interesting things I felt when examining Batman Returns was that if you look at the behavior of Catwoman and Penguin in this film compared to their comic incarnations and the rest of batman's rogue's gallery; this is basically what these two villains would be like if they were severely mentally disturbed. Its like they are versions of the characters that most definitely would have been placed in Arkham Asylum. Because in the comics I have read I haver never seen Selina placed in Arkham. And Oswald always goes to Blackgate penitentiary with the other criminals. Also if you notice in the episode of BTAS "Trial" neither Catwoman nor Penguin are present.

[@lewisaino]

Pretty much Tim Burton did a Serious House análogy