Vegan Ketogenic Diet: Is it possible? Is it safe?

[@UnnaturalVegan]

I found a case report of a woman who actually did go into ketoacidosis from a ketogenic diet. Her carb intake was less than 20 grams per day, which is insane. “Benign dietary ketosis resulting from restricting carbohydrates could, theoretically, cause ketoacidosis in persons with a predisposition to the condition. Carbohydrate-restricted, high-fat diets may have adverse metabolic sequelae when followed for protracted periods.” www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc052709#t=article So it’s probably incredibly rare, particularly if net carb consumption is within 20-50g/day. But we’re dealing with a diet that has seemingly no benefits for the average healthy person (other than appetite suppression*), and has very little research on long-term effects. *This may not even be a benefit, given how prone the diet is to nutrient insufficiency. Eating less of an already nutrient deficient diet isn’t a great idea long-term.

[@TheVeganStudent_]

Unnatural Vegan I don't understand why you constantly like to trash low fat diets here's a study comparing a low diet versus a low carb diet www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMH0056190/ What should also be noted is that even though the low carb group lost more weight than the low fat group their cholesterol overall was much higher than the low fat group. NOW DON'T STRAWMAN ME! Because I'm say we should completely avoid healthy plant foods that contain fat because at least we need omega-3 fats normally about 1-2 tablespoons of chia seeds are enough to provide enough for the entire day normally the fat intake I try to go as low as 20% calories coming from it and a little bit more with protein but overall more carbohydrates. Mainly because the only fuel source our brain can run is glucose as shown in this study. www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3900881/ Carbohydrates are or body's mainly source of energy which is why our body stores carbohydrates as glycogen in the muscle for later use as energy. So carbohydrates aren't really going to make us fat. I'm saying to consume an insane amount of carbohydrates like 80/10/10 but still mostly consume more carbohydrates overall while at least make sure your getting enough healthy fats.

[@MikeJohnson-me2li]

The channel "What I've Learned" has good videos on Keto, and the guy cites many sources. His channel is the thing that convinced me to try keto and it seriously works. I have no more brain fog, I am satiated even on low calories when cutting, and I've lost 15 lbs so far with only 10 more to go to get to my goal weight.

[@tokofukawa6056]

TheVeganStudent you know that she doesn't recommend low carb either right?

[@zenwarrior1984]

Unnatural Vegan those red velvet fat bombs are yum!!! I made my own macadamia cream cheese for mine :) So I have written a ketosis cycling diet - if you want a copy you can send me a message on Instagram and I can email it to you. @epfitnz... it gives you the best of both worlds. Well three worlds - I can explain that later. Meanwhile pretty good overview of the diet. I think there are a few things you missed with regards to therapeutic ketosis. I think what peps don't realise about any diet that takes them into a fast is that living in it can cause you to start storing. Especially if you stop living in it. Am a total fan of cycling. However there is argument for "starving out" cancer. I have listened to a few peeps who have been interviewed because they cured themselves of cancer living in ketosis. Or used a combined approach. Do you think sometimes maybe you come from that angle of "if science hasn't proven it then it can't be true???" We should remember that it's not conspiracy to consider the business of it... coconut oil is cheap compared to chemo! In summary - try the fat bombs - they are so good. Also there is a peanut sauce there somewhere which is pretty lush. Also diets require purpose. The purpose is determined by the individual and I agree with you - this may not be appropriate for everyone. Some people don't process fat well... some people don't process beans well... some people are so damaged a diet of ripe bananas may actually be a good choice for a while - the free banana crazies were not the first peeps to suggest it!!!

[@TST1998]

Sorry, you really have no understanding of the matter. Because I am one of the persons who can get Ketoacidosis from extrem low carb, I know that it has nothing to do with the nutritional ketosis. If you fall into Ketoacidosis the reason is an underlying metabolic problem. The reason is still not clear, but my guess is that in this case the insulin production in that person totally stops and Type 1 diabetes symptoms appear. One of this symptom is ketoacidosis. So please stop talking bullshit about things you clearly have no understanding of. The solution for persons like me is to keep the carbs between 25 and 50 g per day, so being fat adapted, but not in ketosis. That's called low carb.

[@CheapLazyVegan]

It's really interesting to hear this perspective, as much as I've never been interested in the idea of keto diets.. I can't imagine eating a diet without beans or with such limited carbs. I don't want to live in a world where I have to severely limit my rice. Rice is life.

[@mayaangela1743]

and fruit omg i would die

[@marialyn5212]

Also keto is insanely unhealthy

[@rabbitxonxtoast]

Cheap Lazy Vegan rice is life! 😄

[@dhoakohime]

Love your channel too!!! Loads of interesting ideas!!

[@frenchpet]

You guys should do a cross over. I unsubbed from all my vegan channels except for you and unnatural vegan. UV is intellectually superior to the other Vegan snobs, and your channel is funner and has actual good ideas (I've been eating peanut butter noodles all week BTW).

[@melissalodi289]

Probably will get buried but I’m on day 27 of a keto diet (20g total carbs per day). I’ve lost 9 lbs so far. I think some of the point you’re missing is that yes, you can do this without counting calories, but the reason is that part of it is mindful eating. Eating fat keeps you full longer. I’ve struggled with food and unhealthy eating my whole life. This is the first time I’ve been able to stick to something so long. I haven’t binged yet (used to weekly), my skin has cleared up, and I’ve stopped craving sugar. It seems restrictive, but for the first time in my life I have been able to stick to a way of eating that is healthier for me than before. Also getting blood work is important because everyone’s body is different. All I know is that it’s working and I’m happier overall.

[@katiemaedit]

But you have only done it for 27 days. This proves you lose weight initially but says nothing about the long term. Most people do not keep of weight from restricted dietes.

[@blackarchon8778]

I lost 30 pounds of waterweight and fat on atkins diet i was on it for about a year and then i gained it all back when returning to around 100 carbs a day and i gained the weight back faster than after any other diet.

[@jamelameziane6139]

Lost 100 lbs in 13 months on keto. Keto helped me to grab control of my eating and was the only thing that worked for me. Two years later I want to try more plant based to add more nutrients in my diet. Keto works for some, not for all. I think it’s good short term and having a more “low carb but not ketosis low carb” is a good way to transition it more into a lifestyle. Learned a lot from keto 👍🏼

[@Nectarine333]

@@katiemaedit exactly. It’s just not sustainable

[@draha67]

Are you still on keto?

[@leftstanding]

Purely anecdotal, but the ketogenic diet has been the single greatest fat loss tool I've ever tried. I used to restrict calories to 1200~1500 calories per day and lost a lot of weight (~25lbs), but little did I know my metabolism has a mind of its own. It eventually caught up to my shenanigans and put a complete halt to any progress. I am also, apparently, a little bit of an insane person as I kept doing the same thing over and over again expecting different results. I was already only eating once a day, so further restricting any more calories was out of the question. Over the next few months whilst keeping everything the same I actually ended up gaining 5 pounds... Out of sheer desperation, I cold turkey implemented a custom cyclic keto/paleo hybrid type of diet. "Keto" because high fat (60%ish), moderate protein (30%ish), low carb (10%ish). "Paleo" because I kept things raw ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) and minimized intake of processed foods as much as possible. "Cyclic" because I dedicated Saturdays (or whenever I go out) as carb re-feed days. Needless to say, the diet worked out well beyond expectations and I was finally able to lose that last nagging 15lbs. I also finally got to have a face to face meeting with my abdominal muscles which had been hiding from me all my life. I was hoping they'd be more symmetrical but, alas, one can't fight with genetics... There's a few thing I'd like to point though... despite this being a "low carb" diet, my intake of green leafy vegetables were by far the greatest in terms of volume (minimum of 7~10 cups a day). My main sources of fat came from avocados (which I ate at least one a day), nuts and seeds. Hunger was definitely blunted, and I noticed that I could easily go an entire day without eating and still not feel hungry, but I still ate since being consistent with my daily macros was key. In fact, I started by eating at maintenance 1800 calories, and increased it over time to 2500, 3000, 3500, and 4000. The reason for this was that I started going to the gym for strength training, so I had to increase my protein intake (100+ grams) for optimum progress and, since I'm following a keto macro spread, I had to increase fat intake as well (and since fat is highest in calories, this easily made me go over 3000 calories per day). Having said that, I really do believe this type of diet works on some people better than others. I'm 27 y/o 5'8" male currently at 129lbs (was 165lbs before). Most people require a week or two to first get into ketosis, but I did it in two days (and as a previous religious 3 times a day Asian rice eater, I'm pretty confident I've never been in ketosis before). I never experienced the "keto flu," and I am able to transition back into ketosis after a cheat day within one day (most people need two days or more). I also am able to stay in deep ketosis while eating 50 carbs a day (yes, I've had my urine and blood tested) which gives me a lot of room for more vegetables than the average person. Anyway, a lot of my friends were so impressed by the transformations that some of them started this diet as well with varying success. One of them in particular, who has been overweight since middle-school, started this diet at around the same time as me (7 months ago) and mimicked the foods I ate very closely (but at different volumes and exercised at home) and went from wearing XXXL shirts to now larges and mediums (he never counted calories btw; he doesn't even know what a TDEE is). I'm not sure exactly how much weight he lost since he wasn't good at keeping track of things, but over 80lbs fore sure. He's still losing.

[@jannujokunen2701]

Yeah, and once you can no longer uphold your ridiculous keto diet. You will gain all the fat back again, because you never learned a healthy balanced diet.

[@leftstanding]

jannu jokunen We will see! It is very restrictive yes, but it's been almost a week since I've stopped. I only recently transitioned into a vegan diet.

[@govegan8201]

I'm the same as you, I can jump into Ketosis quite quickly and depending on the amount of exercise/walking, sometimes I can have a cheat day and still be in ketosis the next day. But by cheat day I'm talking about a fairly large plate of rice, beans, fries and veggies and a banana shake.

[@govegan8201]

When juice fasting, I lost weight and gained it back within days! When mono fasting, I gain the weight back fast. But from keto, I've always gained a kilo back in food, eating larger portions. But afterwards on a simple plant based diet, for the first time ever i've still managed to drop weight. So it definitely helps my metabolism. HOWEVER I notice if my weight creeps up to 85 kilos, from 85+ it just gains 5 kilos in a week. If i can stay below 85kg, I'm fine. I can have pig out days etc with no issues.

[@leftstanding]

Yeah, my cheat days were similar like that as well. I would reload on carbs as much as I wanted on things like rice, potatoes, beans, fruits and veggies. It didn't mean that I could indulge on refined food; I had permanently quit refined sugars, trans fat, and fried foods, cheat day or not. Anyway, now that I am on a standard high carb vegan diet I am slowly learning the ways my body reacts to different types of food. All diets, I feel, should be personalized to best match one's body type.

[@HealthyCrazyCool]

Ketogenic diets for epilepsy are only used for "childhood" epilepsy (at least in medicine here in the UK), it's usually not effective at all for adults with epilepsy!! Also, to fall and stay in ketosis as a vegan is just incredibly difficult, very few limited foods. I eat a higher fat vegan diet myself but i'd rather die than "limit" carbs & fruit ! :)

[@amberhedges1772]

Healthy Crazy Cool same! Love my fats but also love my fruit too much to ever try anything like that

[@eitanrosa683]

In many cases there is not need to continue the diet as the condition goes into complete remission (cured) even when going back to a SAD diet. They have a pretty good idea of the types of epilepsy that tend to respond to keto. And when it works, it works FAST, so after a just a few months if there's no improvement then can move on but at least they tried. The brain of a baby, toddler and even young child is much more pliable than an adult , it's a tragedy that some adult epileptics suffering with this since childhood were not given the chance to at least try this while theirs brains are still growing and therefore more responsive to such an intervention. Thank Big Pharma pushing Dilantin and the rest of the anti-convulsive drugs, etc., as the ONLY options available. A crime, IMHO.

[@wildmansamurai3663]

Healthy Crazy Cool your body doesn't need carbs it can function fully off of fat

[@thedreaming989]

Not true, it can be effective for adults, its just really hard to get adults to stick to this diet without their mom making them. Adult atkins for epilepsy calls for 10-20 carbs a day and is even more insane than fad keto.

[@stephenvartanian9387]

I did regular keto (eating animal products) very strict for 2 years with great results, then went vegan for 5. Recently started a vegan keto diet and it's extremely easy if you do some initial planning. Vegan or vegetarian and keto is actually a perfect (and healthier IMO...) mix

[@emirubio1]

the carb amount is flexible, and really depends on the person... it's perfect for insulin resistant people. you just avoid starchy and processed carbs... if most of your carbs are from leafy green veggies, and fruits that don't spike your insulin, eat protein rich food and eat a higher amount of fat.

[@nediaeloisa9107]

If you want to lose fat, you should not compromise your well-being with the keto diet. I recommend getting a personalized diet. I've had great success with the Agoge diet for example.

[@Heartbreaker1999-o5s]

Everyone's different. Keto can very very healthy if done properly.

[@upmysIeeves]

Keto allowed me to get off my depression meds and I feel amazing

[@jennifergeorge7280]

You missed out on Keto for PCOS. I’m glad that Keto is possible for vegans, too. I’ve wondered what vegans with PCOS would do. Now I know.

[@neptronix]

I've been on a keto diet for 4 years now after trying everything, including veganism. I lost 100lbs and have kept it from creeping back upwards by sticking to what is called 'lazy keto'. Also, i am a type 2 diabetic.. and enjoy not having to rely on medications or insulin.. because my blood sugar stays in line this way. It's not a hard diet to follow once you get used to it. Veganism was more difficult for me, and as well, i felt like hell while doing it.

[@FluffyDivine]

Thanks for your comment neptronix, I'm type 1 diabetic and feel the same. There are a lot of people in the world that live with diabetes and I feel like it often gets brushed off or drowned out in the what can become quite a political conversation about diets. I hope it becomes less sensationalised so that there are more low carbohydrate options, which is why I follow a 'lazy keto' plan as well haha or lean towards a lower carb higher monounsaturated fat diet rather than being religious about it.

[@katec5105]

What is lazy keto?

[@michellefilby]

I've been slowly converting to a vegan keto diet. Since I cut out almost 95% of all white flour based foods I've actually felt more clear headed during the day and I don't get as hungry as often or tired after lunch. I' don't really eat much saturated fat or processed oil. I eat a lot of avocados, nuts and seeds. I cook Indian curries so I make vegan keto naan bread with coconut flour and psylliums husks which is amazing and brown rice only once a week. I honestly feel much better eating this way. I know I'm not fully vegan keto but I have lost 1.5kg over the last 6 weeks so it must be working for me. I had blood tests before I started reducing carbs and everything was in normal range. I'm going to go back after 3 months and see if there are any changes. Oh and one other thing, I also started intermittent fasting at the same time so my eating window is from 12pm-9pm, 2 meals a day.

[@breatheinbreatheout7568]

Shell Bell 1.5kg over the last 6 weeks? You'll lose that by having a good poo! Wouldn't say this diet is working for you, I'm afraid 🙊

[@MikeJohnson-me2li]

I agree about the clear headedness. I used to have terrible brain fog before I went on keto, now I have amazing focus.

[@Ravenousyouth]

I lost 1 kg a week eating pasta every day

[@MelissaPons]

Come on, for some people is extremely hard to lose weight even if just a small amount. Shell Bell is only doing good.

[@michellefilby]

JustAHorrorShow guess you haven't done your research on intermittent fasting and reversing type 2 diabetes?

[@theseitanrecipe8180]

541 days without the recipe. Why not Kalegenic diet?

[@goskodovesche]

i love this meme so much :D

[@vitele9463]

omg this is hilarious😂

[@emhurl]

This has become the lammington recipe from community channel. If anyone even remembers that..

[@ConfuzzledTomato]

creativeusername_x coincidentally community channel is also vegan 😂

[@WayGaijin]

I am totally out of the loop... I see this on every video. I don't get it. What am I missing?

[@anvin3722]

I've actually been trying a vegetarian ketogenic diet, and so far it has been the only thing able to control my chronic migraines. I spent the past 5 years in chronic pain. So to be honest, I believe at least for me it was a healthy option given a few supplements. But I am just so happy to watch this video, even with the biased opinion about the diet itself, because ultimately I want to be following a vegan diet, and have been researching the possibility for a while. Hope it works out for you. Looking forward to the updates.

[@StaringCompetition]

Angelica Madureira That's great that keto is working for your condition. The closest I have been to a cure for my migraines is plant rich dairy free keto. I now take Valproic acid which is one of those drugs UV mentions at 6-7 minutes into her video and it is working very well. Ketosis emulates fasting, in which state plasma free fatty acids elevated. Valproic acid is chemically a fatty acid so maybe creates a similar effect to ketogenic eating. I use them both in tandem. I wish there was more research on this. Good luck!

[@anvin3722]

StaringCompetition Yes. I tried só many medications throughout the years, nothing ever worked. Being able to fuction as a normal human being is the best thing. Honestly, for a while there, I thought It would never

[@paszTube]

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[@Laffy_Taphy50818]

I've been doing a vegan keto lately and I like it. When I tried high carb low fat, I always went over on fat and I always felt hungry and bloated and ate up to 2200 calories a day. Wasn't losing any weight. The higher fat keeps me satisfied and I can be satisfied with around 1600-1700 calories a day. I also don't have binges like I did with calorie deficits in other types of vegan diets

[@TheSeedOfChange]

Keto (not vegan keto) for 2 months now and I love it. Of course I initially wanted to lose weight, but then I realized how much better I feel without carbs. I used to nap everyday and now I rarely do. I used to feel bloated all the time, hungry within a couple hours of eating, I was depressed, anxious, and my mind raced all the time. I feel like a new person. I haven't even weighed myself since I started this diet. I don't care about the weight anymore. I'm just glad I don't feel like poop anymore. The rest will work itself out. Oh, and I always hear (you said it, too), that the diet is unsustainable. I have no desire to stop anytime soon. I rarely get cravings anymore- (I used to crave sugar and salt all day long). I have been to several social functions in the last 2 months and was able to abstain from cake and dessert, something I NEVER would have been able to do 2 months ago. Also, as with any diet, there are a million ways to interpret it. The most healthy way to do keto is to keep it plant based- you need veggies for the nutrients and fiber to help digest the moderate protein you are eating. I would say a meat and cheese diet is not good. (Which is probably what most people think keto is.)

[@PlantEats]

these fancy diets sound like a lot of work. i think i'm too lazy to care. great video

[@TST1998]

You think putting a vegan diet together that at least doesn't kill you in a month is less work? Actually, LCHF is extremely simple to do. You eat the fattest products + non-starchy veggies and that's all. More you do not have to do.

[@roelin360]

@Peter Rabitt sounds really boring

[@laissezcrochet6339]

A low carb diet has worked wonders for my mental health (I stopped having wild mood swings) and my acne. I also lost about 10kg, which is wild considering I've never been able to lose weight unless I work out for at least an hour every day. I'm not exactly keto, because that's an unsustainable diet, but low carb works for some people.

[@YJWoadWarrior]

You missed the main points why people go on the ketogenic diet like blood sugar and insulin and how it affects hunger. I recommend watching butter makes your pants fall off.

[@blackarchon8778]

Thats not the main reason the main reason people go on keto is for weight loss.

[@bradclarke7874]

If you're burning saturated fat as your primary source of fuel, you're likely not storing it (and therefore probably not having an issue with it).

[@alexpena9927]

The point of a ketogenic diet and, what many people are failing to understand here, is that you need a lot of fat but more specifically, you really need saturated fat. On a conventional diet - where insulin is running rampant - you need to reduce as much cholesterol you possibly can to avoid clogged arteries, but on ketosis your insulin levels are much much lower allowing you to eat as much saturated fat as possible and at the same time even have a lower level of blood cholesterol. And this is really key because you need most of your fat to come from saturated fats because that is the fat your body can readily convert to energy. Consuming PUFA (poly unsaturated fatty acids) in excess - which are very ubiquitous in vegan proteins and fats - can lead to many unwanted health issues because it reduces good cholesterol in the body. this is where most people are ignorant on the matter, even many respectable dietitian are in the wrong because they don't know the interactions between low insulin and blood cholesterol. They seem to think that the interaction with dietary cholesterol on a high insulin producing diet is the same when on a low insulin diet, which is really not the case at all.

[@jennoscura2381]

Citation needed. Do you have any studies to back up the claims you made?

[@paulatreides9810]

Alex Pena all bullshit.

[@neptronix]

You don't really need saturated fat, but it is the best fat to eat, for sure. - on keto for 4 years

[@drooskie9525]

+Rational Learner Saturated fat doesn't clog arteries. A complete myth.

[@felipe8511]

the insulin is lower when you actually do the therapeutic keto version some websites claim that meat, dairy and eggs doesnt have glycemic index because they are not carbohydrates, which is bs because they DO have insulinogenic responses, and sometimes they are higher than carbs, specially egg whites and lean meat, some carbs has lower glycemic index than a fatty beef or bacon or even eggs egg whites has a insulinogenic responses equivalent to a glycemic index of 74%... thats higher than white bread, while chickpeas only 10% which is lower than bacon, that means you have a better chance of staying in ketosis by eating chickpeas throughout the day than eating the common keto eggs and bacon breakfast our body uses triglycerides for energy triglycerides are made by the body with fatty acids, we use the saturated fat for other functions and they are mostly when we are babies, developing our body and mostly our brain, we dont need as much of it as we get old

[@zukodude487987]

I have talked to my nutritionist about Keto and she said that Keto can help in the short term, but in the long term it will lower your immune system and is very unhealthy. She treated a little girl who had to eat keto for epilepsy and she was monitored by several doctors who monitored her immune system so they could perscribe the right drugs to compensate for her decreasing immune system.

[@zukodude487987]

I haven't heard from her that there is a healthy way to do it. I dunno how keto is healthy if you can only do it for a limited time.

[@neptronix]

Maybe your doctor needs to back up their claims with more than 1 person's experience.

[@harleyperri5731]

I tried keto (vegan) for about a week and gave up. I just can't deal with the mental process of convincing myself that bananas are the devil. Also. I'm all about whole foods as much as possible, but dang...there is no convenience food allowance with keto and that much fat just makes me feel like shit. ALSO, black beans are life. Chipotle salads are life. Bread is life.

[@alexpena9927]

this is rough because most vegan proteins and fats are high in PUFA's (Poly unsaturated fatty acids) and low in saturated fat, and anyone that eats that much PUFA will feel like shit no matter what because of all the good cholesterol you are getting rid of on a diet high in PUFA. When on ketosis you want to eat a lot of fat but you want to mainly eat saturated fats (which is what many people on this diet fail to do). You need saturated fat because that is the fat that your body can readily burn for energy.

[@alexpena9927]

it does seem scary to eat that much saturated fat because of all the data on how bad it can be for you, but the problem is that data came from conventional diets which are high in carbohydrates, which means its also high in insulin. Recent studies shows that if your insulin levels are low, you can eat almost as much saturated fat as you want without getting clogged arteries. Another misconception about the keto diet is that you will get cancer from all the saturated fat. While on the ketogenic diet there is a really good indication that it is very good at fighting cancer even though the research does not yet back it. For one, cancer cells seem to thrive on glucose for energy and have a really hard time metabolizing fats to repopulate effectively. Many doctors go as far and say that cancer cells can no longer burn fat at all and cancer cells subsequently die from starvation. The data isn't out yet but all the recent data is starting to point in that direction. The problem is the keto diet isn't simple, and for that reason, many people tend to fail.

[@zenwarrior1984]

Alex Pena I loved your post. One thing that always irks me is that peeps keep saying "there is heaps of evidence that saturated fat is bad for you". - actually there is heaps of evidence that processed saturate fats combined with Carbs is bad for you. This is like a fat storage nightmare of insulin spikes and fat storage hormone spikes!!!! So peeps stop deep frying your carbs. Eat one or the other at a sitting and not both!!!!

[@theatheistpaladin]

I feel you, buddy.

[@zenwarrior1984]

Angry Vegan Cyclist am I too assume you are of the high carb lot??? 😂😂😂. To all in the group I think we should note that it is early days into the studies of ketosis and that when citing any study you can be selective in how your read it - most are. I think we are moving into the age of ketosis - Aitken's was the first signs of it and a total disaster but there is more available to the dieters now and it can certainly be done healthier. There is a lot of anecdotal evidence out there and a lot of studies on a lot of things and not a lot of double blinds. Take fish oil for example - for years it was claimed to be good for us and lowered the risk of heart disease. Now we find out that potentially 80% of all fish oil - irrespective of quality may be rancid and more harmful than not taking it. On the other hand I used the high carb freelee madness to help a client of mine with chronns - it wasn't the only thing we did and we certainly didn't put her on 30bananas a day. But blended dates and bananas were a great way to get energy into her body and help her gut while we plugged away at a few other options for healing. She would be asleep on a keto diet and dysfunctional for everyday life. Doesn't mean we won't use it later but at the moment she looks fabulous and is off her meds. The next phase for her is more carbs and now more fats with a herb complex. There is no study out there to say what we are doing is correct but there are a bunch of hippies who rate marshmallow root and slippery elm etc. oh and then there is the fact that this is the best she has felt in 20 years. Doctors didn't diagnose her a naturopath did!!! I think the biggest issue I have with Unnatural Vegans video - even though I quite like the video - is that she hasn't actually tried the diet or potentially considered why she personally might want too. I have to say the candida die off is pretty awesome. The energy boost once your body settles is great - and I came from a high carb diet. Also I have noticed my period symptoms have currently disappeared. I would like to point out I am currently cycling ketosis - so I do have carb days. I would also like to point out I came from a high carb diet I loved. I am just running my own little personal anecdotal experiment. Unnatural Vegan is against fadism - and for good reason - it's a bit sick. But fadism is the energy we bring to our religions and obsessions they are not occurring within inanimate things. Those things just bring them out. Clearly one of the reasons Unnatural Vegan might avoid this diet is she doesn't trust her Narcissism to stay in its box. Which is a good reason to not get involved in anything that can quickly become an obsession. I hope she is aware that her current pedestal has the potential to become exactly that....

[@SagaciousEagle]

I've been on a ketogenic diet with an occasional carb cycling for 2+ years with counting neither calories nor carbs, just ate what looked like to be carbless food. 6 moths in and I lost 10kg down to 62kg and have been maintaining this weight. Fitness, mental clarity, immune system have been fantastic ever since. I've started eating carbs lately, mostly long grain white rice because I've been thinking about eliminating sentient animal meat from my meals, but I want to do it without any health and financial compromises. Ever since I started eating carbs again (2 months) I've gained 2kg (probably water weight) but waist circumference remains the same, just a little more fat and bloat in the belly (still within level of tolerance).

[@cedfowler]

Carbs aren't always an option for those who are severely insulin-resistant

[@mikmick13]

The Steve Brule referance at the end KILLED me 😂😂 Waaayy too good. A wonderful video as always Swayze. Thanks for making veganism into something normal.

[@mynamekp129]

Keto is not worth it in my humble opinion. It's risky and difficult to adhere to. I recommend the Agoge diet because it's personalized and balanced and most importantly worked great for me.

[@linafahnestock3593]

i've been following the agoge diet and it definitely works great

[@sabihaates3854]

I would recommend the agoge diet to everyone!

[@beecauve5138]

I can't tell you how glad I am that I found your channel today (the what the health debunk brought me to you) and I have shamelessly been watching your content since. What nutrition/macro tracker do you use in the video? The one I use doesnt track choline, lysine, or other nutrients that I am interested in tracking as I return to a more sound plant based diet. Thanks again for this content. I was high carb, low fat vegan for a decade reliant on processed foods, soy, and gluten (like all the popular cookbooks, forums, and PETA at the time 😐 encouraged). Ailing with new food intolerances, I then thought I needed to go raw vegan to get better, and all of this wrecked my hormones, gut health, and immune system. But this sound, science based approach is truly a breath of fresh air for someone with plant based inclinations.

[@Cancellator5000]

It looks like cronometer, but to enable some of these nutrients you have to change some settings in your profile. It doesn't track choline by default I think.

[@r.j.macready]

I've been following your content for over a year now and you always put out quality material with sound reasoning. I'm not even vegan I went Primal and figured my diet is mostly vegan in terms of net mass food consumed so I still learn so much thank you!

[@couldbelive]

R.J. MacReady nice

[@natureasintended]

Nice one. Please check out my vegan info page too. facebook.com/PlantBasedEvidencePaleoDiet/

[@cheesecake7274]

I’m only doing this because I’m an ethical vegan and I keep my blood sugar in check so much better when I’m eating low carb. I’m a type 1 diabetic and Try to get out of that blood sugar rollercoaster with keto. However, I eat an average of 50 g of carbs, but I do stay in ketosis... but I would not recommend this for people who have no medical reason to do this. When i’m in ketosis I am not hungry. When i’m not in ketosis I binge on high sugar foods no matter what I’m doing with my diet.

[@Moniplonisimone]

Please do the video, on your vegan keto experience!

[@rubyxcube3]

I was so happy to see your pretty face on my Apple Watch with this topic on it! I couldn't wait to get to my phone to watch. I'd been wanting to research this topic and you are my top researcher with your no bs attitude. Thank you and please keep us posted on how it's going! I know it's only been 4 days but supposedly your cravings end today! 😉

[@annagrenfell5884]

Please do an update video! I'm considering keto because I have PCOS so am finding it difficult to lose weight. I'm not vegan but I'm red meat and diary free already so eat a lot of vegan food. Watching your channel is making me consider going vegan though

[@xxexexex]

Can you do a video on vitamins. Like if someone eats bad but takes a multi is it fine

[@zenwarrior1984]

XX X no it's not... spirulina on the other hand might be helpful in protecting your colon a bit. Not entirely but it might help

[@vincentzaleski4509]

That's a reductive approach and likely to cause more harm than good. The great thing about a whole foods plant based diet is not only are you getting all of your essential nutrients (with the exception of B12 and vitamin D from the sun), but you are also getting a whole slew of antioxidants and phytochemicals- things most people don't talk about. Meat, dairy, egg, and fish industries have used unique positioning, so people focus on protein, omega-3's, calcium, iron, B12. Have you ever heard of someone boasting about how many anthocyanins they got today? How about lutein? Lycopene? These are just some of the thousands of nutrients found in plants, that you won't get if you take vitamins to supplement a junk food diet. Also, whole plant foods work in synergy to optimize the absorption of nutrients. Worrying about meeting RDA's (as Swayze seems to be very occupied with) is unnecessary, as our bodies store nutrients can pull from those stores if we are ever lacking- though you won't be lacking in nutrients if you eat a whole-foods vegan diet.

[@benjaminjo]

They'recalled *supplements*, not *replacements* for a reason.

[@zenwarrior1984]

Vincent Zaleski remembering that over farmed areas may be deficient in selenium, magnesium, zinc... etc!!!

[@no-3607]

I take a men's daily everyday...also eating a few bowls of rice crispies cereal with soy milk and you will get your vitimins...then it's all about getting protein and good healthy foods...

[@justinmichaelknox]

Unnatural Vegan what is your personal recommendation for diet to be healthy? I feel like I've seen tons of your videos critiquing other diets and I appreciate the work you do but still don't know what exactly you think we SHOULD eat

[@samanthatheminimalist]

Justin based on her videos (particularly her old what I ate Wednesday's) she just advocates (in no particular order) unlimited nuts, beans, seeds, tofu, tempeh, seitan, nutritional yeast, fortified plant milk, whole grains, fruits, and vegetables. Overall I think because she is an ethical vegan she is cool with people eating anything as long as it's vegan.

[@JackJohnson-wf4mk]

I think Swayze is very interested in nutrition, but she is coy about presenting any "one" diet because the truth is, the human body is highly adaptable and we're capable of being healthy on a variety of different diets. What works for someone may not work for someone else, as she pointed out in the video. I believe that most people fall in the middle of low carb / low fat. Any diet that is vegan (ethical reasons) and is well supplemented is what she recommends. This can be anything as long as you take a multi or specific vitamins and minerals.

[@elinwaghorne]

50% carbs, 30% fats, 20% protein. That's what myfitnesspal tells me anyway haha

[@yamiirocks]

From what I can tell, get majority of nutrition from whole foods, don't be scared of some tofu or mockmeats, take a B12, and to not limit fat especially if you're a menstruating female

[@Cozybelle30]

She has said in a lot of videos that balance is key essentially. Follow the diet that is recommended by the American Heart Association etc. Normal amounts of protein, carbs and healthy fats. Lots if fruits and veggies. Plus some supplements if you are vegan. Limited processed foods and a healthy amount of calories for your age, sex, weight. All the boring stuff that isn't a get fit quick thing

[@emirubio1]

if you are eating green leafy veggies and avocados.... it's very hard to get to 20 net carbs considering the fiber and nutrient ration in these foods. and there is a lot of research about it, if you are open to it. there are many videos on High Fat Vegan, and I know it helps. You don't even have to go super low carb enough to be in ketosis, and a result, lose weight. You can simps have a lower carb to protein, and fat ratio and still be fine, lose weight, and maintain your health. add the fat! it does help with all of these things. do not knock it until you try it. there is a breath research.

[@marie9088]

I was thinking about this keto diet lately because I had trouble figuring out how to do it vegan style, so this is actually helpful thanks to the links and blogs you gave. Thank you.

[@jmorris4972]

No one ever said you don't have to count calories while on keto. In fact, you can still gain tons of weight eating all the fat you want. You still need to be at a deficit

[@plainlyjane6540]

Oh and on keto bein' restrictive.Well, if omnivore, its not really restrictive at all. I feel like i can eat whatever i want, i make my own ice cream (its super ez) i cook sweets all the time, i eat tons of varied foods, only diff is u have to plan and prep slightly, but once u get hang of it, total ad lib eats and very intuitive.

[@StaringCompetition]

Jane Plain We need a lo carbz ketard army to thumb pro keto comments to the top. Alas I am have but one vote..

[@Freyaamane]

do a video on intermittent fasting please :)

[@MsShade77]

I know for a fact that my friend who is male eats high fat/low carb and he had diabetes but after he lost 35 kilos he's free from the meds. He's also more energetic for the previous him cause before keto-diet he just sat at home and was kinda depressed. He sees Dr. all the time so I'm seen his blood tests and they are just fine. Nothing is wrong there. I think that we all are different and we need to eat how we feel healthy.

[@Denidrakes69]

I've been doing this for a few months - it's interesting. Even on the days I'm not under 30g net, I struggle to go over 50g. In the longer (ish) term, I've gravitated towards IM and one meal a day - it wasn't really intentional, it just happened. Not sure how long I'll do it for - but the extra oils (mostly Avocado) have been great for my skin and hair. Read and watch a bit of Jason Fung, if you're interested.

[@seatbythewindow]

I'm not fully vegan (though I try to be more plant based) but I really appreciate your rational, informed take on nutrition. In this day of "diet gurus" who say follow me, not the science, it is great to see someone cite their legitimate scientific sources.

[@alexpena9927]

the problem is that - although the science may have truth - in the context of a keto diet it holds no merit

[@7eardstapa7]

9:56 Thug kitty sharpening his weapons at the expense of your chair.

[@CaptainManic2010]

I really love your work here. But I'd like to make a few points. There have been numerous studies out of Europe and Japan that suggest that saturated fat has NEVER EVER been the culprit. In fact, as fats in general, and saturated fats were demonised, large populations around the world decreased their intake...only to take up processed carbs instead...which led to a MASSIVE increase in cholesterol, heart problems, obesity and cancer. I don't believe that saturated fat is the enemy. There are several factors we have to further consider. 1. Our ancestors ate larger amounts of saturated fats and oils from whole foods and didn't have the health problems we have. Yes we live longer because of medicine...but they lived healthier. On saturated fats. 2. During Nutritional Ketosis, the way your body processes fats, cholesterol is a fat, changes in several ways. It is often normal to find elevated cholesterol levels HOWEVER have a DECREASED RISK OF HEART DISEASE due to the fact that the cholesterol is in a different shape and doing a different job...it's shuttling fat out of storage and down to the liver for processing into ketones...energy...instead of having it stick to arteries and clog up hearts your video has been excellent however and I'm going to watch more. If they are as good as this one, I will subscribe.

[@thatonegamergirl1182]

I was going to comment the same thing. More studies are coming out now in the states about saturated fat not having an impact on heart disease.

[@Vegan_Atenea]

You think Avocados are expensive in the America? Try $3.50 each in Australia! :(

[@odelyalevy]

Great input. I was watching you while your two cats roamed kale lazily in the room and one of them pose to the camera. Taking all the attention. Lol. 🌟🍀

[@tofugoddess3685]

Have you seen Daiya's video on why they're partnering with Otsuka? Tons of people in the comments are outraged they'd partner with a company that produces pharmaceuticals but I'm failing to see what the big problem is. It'd be awesome to get your take on it in a future video! :)

[@keschneider]

Yes, I'm very interested to see how you do on this. Please keep us updated. :)

[@arianaramirez5567]

Could you make a video about diets? Recently I've read some articles saying that dieting is pointless because is not sustainable in the longrun and that we should instead focus on intuitive eating and being happy with the weight get from that...I think it would be interesting to see what you might have to say about it. Great video btw c:

[@caitlinhamilton5248]

I'm currently in my 2nd week of the keto diet, and this is the second time I am on it. I really fail on calorie restrictive diets to lose weight (I'm not overweight, I just would like to lose that last 10lbs). I find with keto that it's really easy to avoid boredom eating, which is my problem. I can't just make a massive sandwich, or go into a shop and get a pastry. If I feel snacky, I'll snack on olives or nuts which are much better for me. It's a great weight loss tool. I don't think it's a great long term diet, but doing in for 6 weeks of the year keeps me at the weight I want to be at until Christmas comes and ruins it all :D

[@bsavannah8158]

This video came at the perfect time! I've been experimenting with this myself for the past week and have seen some benefits. Please post some follow up videos!

[@carolinerxs]

I'm not an expert but I would say a keto diet is not necessarily about cutting all carbs but about cutting refined carbs - all sugars, white flour, potato. I don't believe there's one right diet for everyone, but people who need to increase insulin sensitivity and cut sugars do benefit from keto. However I don't like eating that much animal fat and I've been trying to replace that with nuts, avocado, etc. I'm not too crazy about the macros though. It has really helped with hormonal imbalance in my case. I cannot pinpoint exactly the reason but it looks like cutting sugars and bread had an impact.

[@kiraphobia222]

Actually Keto is zero fruit, except for dark berries and zero beans, except for tofu... Soooo

[@LaMiriabelle]

I don't get, why everything has to be extreme. High this, low that. i am feeling so much better eating approximately 40,40,20 (carbs, protein, fat). Don't thinking about how much to eat from this or that.

[@LaMiriabelle]

Peter Rabitt Öhm... I've been eating vegan for a year and a half ;)

[@kristin4840]

I’ve been doing vegan Leto and feel so much better!! I’m not hungry and don’t crave sugar for the first time in my life. Starting my day with a fruit smoothie or oatmeal sends me into blood sugar spikes through the whole day and I end up feeling exhausted and craving sugar and caffeine. The high fat helps me feel full and gives me long term energy.

[@xosecox12]

I love that she was totally fair and calm here and in the comments people are acting as if she said it's okay to murder children with how angry they are that she doesn't support their diet. I can't believe this is something people get so angry over. In her other video people are name-calling someone for drizzling oil on her salad. Get a grip, people.

[@Amyjwashere]

honestly 180 carbs is a healthy amount of carbs, no matter which way you put it. i expected my bloating to go away when I tried this, but it increased. i felt pretty lethargic, so I couldn't find energy to work out. i didn't have any cravings, which was interesting. i couldn't do this for more than a week. so now I'm keeping my fat moderate (about 60-70g a day) and my carbs under 200, so that I'm not depriving myself of anything, but still restricting my sugar and being smart about it. i have stopped gaining weight, and I now have energy to go work out a little bit more so I'm excited about the next phase of my weight loss.

[@Jennifer-lj3et]

I think when done healthy keto is a really good diet. My mom and I did it and she continues to do it with plenty of cheat days. She had diabetes but because of her doing it she has been medically cleared to stop taking insulin and is prediabetic. She did a lot of research and didn't take it at face value. It works for some people, it is all about how your body reacts and processes certain foods. Some peoples bodies need more carbs and some peoples don't but when making a healthy lifestyle change I find that it helps you to get in touch with listening to your body.

[@ChandaurRoshini]

So, I have PCOS, and there is some good research that suggests that people with PCOS don’t metabolism carbs quite as well as others. My doctor recommended it to me with this advise. She also told me that I am supposed to only have good fats (from nuts, seeds, and stuff like avocado). So I tired it and I gotta say, it is very effect for me. I am supposed to take a multi every day but it is the most effective and followable diet I have ever done. Additionally, 6 months out, I have not gained any weight back.

[@deanta09]

Before I became a vegetarian I did the ketogenic diet for 7/8 days. With this diet I lost 7kgs. I tried it because, unlike conventional diets (low in fat) it is a very tasty diet and it does not look like we are on a diet. Thank you for sharing

[@alainawalker9550]

You're very informative with this. I knew the Atkins-style stuff was not good, but I am going to work on illuminating the saturated fats from the keto diet for vegan. Really excited about that. By the way, cute kitties. :-) going to look for some more videos, and subscribe to yours.

[@ottothegremlin]

I have started incorporating more vegan keto meals into my diet because before I definitely ate a lot of carbs and not enough veggies, and I feel like it’s definitely helped balance out my over all diet and health.

[@eilykern125]

Unnaturl Vegan keto what i eat in a day! sounds fun to watch...

[@thesleepinggirl]

For choline, as an alternative supplement, 1 tablespoon of Bob's Red Mill lecithin granules provides 275mg choline according to Cronometer (20mg of calcium, too, better than nothing! and a little iron, 0.4mg). Cheap and can be sprinkled on all sorts of food in small amounts, doesn't have much taste. When I was making soy or nut milk at home, I blended in lecithin as a thickener, used it making cheesecakes as well to firm up the filling. Did this stuff while I was pregnant/breastfeeding. Gonna grab some Lite Salt. Cheers.

[@Lemonz1989]

I'm a type 1 diabetic, and I really want to be vegan, but it seems almost impossible to get normal blood sugar control on a vegan diet. The more carbs I eat (which vegan diets are usually pretty heavy in), the more insulin I need to inject and the more of both a diabetic has, the more unpredictable the results become... :( I'm experimenting right now. I find something that I like and has low carbs, make a meal out of it, and "save" the meal as a default go to meal. Meaning I make the same meal in the exact same way again when I want it, so there is as little variation as possible in what I eat. This to make things as predictable as possible. I'm building up a low carb vegan meal library this way. :) It's difficult, but will be worth it in the end, I believe. :)

[@jessbee7532]

I have followed Healthful Pursuit website. She is a nutritionist that was previously vegan and has been her own keto diet for 3 years. It is pretty interesting and she at least does give vegan options.

[@BelieberAkaMabel]

What you said around 3:00 is very wrong, ketosis has less to do with wanting to eat alot of fat and more to do with connecting that your body doesnt really need carbs to survive. Carbs are also not the main source of gaining weight it is more to do what is happening on the microscopic level on what the types of food in your body turn into.

[@skatingsarah1996]

Vegan or not, keto still grosses me out. All that fat sounds disgusting. Zero energy and feeling greasy, plus a restriction mindset. Yuck.

[@neptronix]

No, you don't have zero energy once you're adapted. I actually started to become very physically active for the first time in my life in my mid 30's within my first year of doing it.

[@barbarak5740]

you adapt after 4 days, your body start to work on fat and you have much more energy then on carbs, and you don't feel sleepy after meal

[@skatingsarah1996]

Crystal z I feel great after meals. No keto for me 👋🏼

[@eitanrosa683]

Can't get more restrictive than vegan! And Keto is not low energy at all. I feel more energized now than 15 years ago! It does take getting used to, for sure, but it feels great, and lost some 30 pounds without calorie counting ever. High Fat is extremely satiating and you end up eating less simply because you are not as hungry. Did I mention that my diabetes is completely controlled only thru diet?

[@elisahernandez1820]

On Keto you're burning fat as your main energy source so your body gets used to it. I used to be HCLF and remember how yucky I felt when I ate fats. Now, on keto, I feel normal eating primarily fats and feel yucky when I eat too many carbs. Your body gets used to whatever you feed it.

[@tofugoddess3685]

I would love to see a what I eat in a day video from you on this diet!

[@jaredburgess9012]

I still eat 150-180g of net carbs (~15% of my calories) and still get into ketosis, which still allows me to pack in a lot of nutrient dense foods even if they have some carbs. But I guess most people can’t consume ~4500cal daily, which is currently just below what I need to maintain my current weight with a single fasting day a week. Upping your caloric maintenance through various means (strength training, HIIT, LISS cardio, fasting, brown fat promotion) can be an effective tool to manipulate your net macros.

[@MissMotek]

Thank you for being our guinea pig - super curious about your upcoming videos!

[@not.a.robott]

Oh shit, oh shit, oh shit, we need updates. Definitely keep us updated.

[@wellbeing4497]

Personally, I believe any type of keto diet is meant to be temporary and therapeutic and I’d probably rather use it in conjunction with intermittent fasting. I believe in whole foods and think people process differently so one must really gauge for themselves whether or not something works for them and shift when needed. I think getting into ketosis is hard for those who really need it but it is very beneficial to them to do this and then mildly graduate into a cleaner lifestyle and intermittently fast or eat keto to keep in check. It’s basically a way to detox and allow the body to perform natural functions that most these days never do since we have such an abundance of foodstuffs. If we live a life of mild feast and famine, in conjunction with a whole, (local, seasonal and organic) food based diet, this type of diet would not be necessary because we’d already be doing it at times. And I actually find coconut to be better for me than soy, so people really need to experiment with themselves.

[@Timbo234]

I cured my diabetes through fasting....so my body would definitely would go into ketosis. It took me about 2 months...I fasted completely 3 days a week and ate 1 meal a day for the rest of the week. Also I am vegan.

[@plainlyjane6540]

n=1 i've been following a VLC/ketogenicdiet for almost 15 yrs. It's been therapeutic for a number of issues primarily severe obesity (start wt >200 lbs, maintain 125lbs for the entire time i've been LC w/o restriction or neurotic behaviors, natural eating 100%). The ketogenic portion of the diet is specifically therapeutic for mood issues. My experience is its actually EASIER to be keto plant based because the #1 killer of ketosis is TOO MUCH PROTEIN. So if you do a regular omnivore low carb diet you might eat , eggs and meats, lots of animal foods and you end up like 50% protein or so... which will absolutely murder ketone levels, unless you're fasting or hypocaloric (soin effect, starving, thus in a starvation ketosis). Again , not a vegan, i have *naturally* gravitated to a very plant based diet because its just so much easier to be keto this way. For breakfast i eat a mixture of nuts/fatty seeds: pecans, macadmias, coconut, pumpkin, sacha seeds, etc. I also make delicious brownies with 100% chocolate and avocado base, sweetners are really advanced now and you cant even tell its ketogenic. The irony is you hear "low carb" you think person is eating steaks and chicken, but a keto diet is often plant based because its just loads easier to eat a high fat, moderate protein intake that way. Again, not vegan, i eat eggs, heavy cream (great keto tool) and such but a more ketogenic low carb diet is super easy to do if you are vegan because protein has to be restricted anyway.

[@neptronix]

Congrats on the first 15 years. I don't agree with you about too much protein though.. i didn't mind my fat to protein ratio at all, and probably have been eating more protein than fat.. still lost 100lbs and have kept it off.. still have all the benefits of keto, as a meat eater. Same goes for other meat eater keto people who have done well. I really don't know where your information comes from, but congrats on being able to pull off vegan keto nonetheless, many people haven't figured that out yet.

[@plainlyjane6540]

Hi. It depends what you are using the diet for. Often ppl conflate "ketogenic" with "low carb" when these aren't the same. The ketosis is specifically important for neurological issues and cancer (hypothetically), whereas the low carb/high protein portion is all you need to worry about for weight contorl. I specifically said i only care about keto (as in high fat/moderate protein) for my mood disorder, it does nothing much to help my weight. Your experience of superior wt control on a higher protein, meat based diet is pretty common relative to the fat based, lower protein ketogenic diet. I'm also not vegan which i made clear, i merely said if one is targeting ketosis for neurological issues, this is vastly easier on a plant based diet as trying to do a normal meat based LC diet will trash ketosis. Again, ketosis has nothing to do with the wt loss portion that can be obtained -often with superior results - through a high protein low carb diet such as meat and vegetables.

[@ononono7016]

Ketogenic diet bad long term effects: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iHfMm4pudpeDqMU

[@ShilohNova]

I'm really interested to know your thoughts on vegan shakeology!

[@kimberlysnyder3151]

Is your sample diet available somewhere? I need to lose some weight for a surgery in a short amount of time and am exploring doing vegan keto briefly to help accomplish this.

[@dudeimbleeding]

I love your videos for your content, but I think I get unintentional ASMR from your voice. It's just so soothing!

[@Yessnatathlete]

This is so time consuming and stressing for anyone's lifestyle. I just rather eat my veggies and try to avoid carbs as much as I can, but I'm not going to stress about measuring every single thing.

[@drgonzo2355]

@unnaturalvegan I've been mostly vegan for 11 years and went low carb high fat vegan about two months ago. The weight loss is a bonus, but it wasn't the main reason I did it. I have narcoleptic episodes which are affected by high amounts of carbs, especially starchy carbs, and some people with neurological disorders like narcolepsy and epilepsy have known this for a long time. Since going HFLC I can get through a day without falling asleep, I can go shopping and not end up spaced out because of the flickering of the over head lights, I'm not getting sleep paralysis and hallucinations anymore which means my quality of sleep is amazingly better. Yes, I see a lot of people go crazy over counting macros, but you get that kind of zealousness in any "diet" and personally, I don't count anything, not calories, not macros, because I come from a history of eating disorders I'm not interested in starting up again. I eat a lot of nuts, a lot of tofu, a lot of salad and green vegetables, and sometimes I'm slightly higher carb than the perceived ideal of 20-30g per day, if I were to guess I'd say I average 50 on a strict day and 70-100 on an indulgent day, and it's still low enough to help my medical issues AND lose weight. The important thing to remember is that people often see rapid initial weight loss due to losing water weight and no longer eating calorie dense carbs like bread and pasta, but once thats over, I'ver personally found I'm on that healthy 2lbs or so lost a week. I can't eat rice or wheat so I don't miss them, but potatoes and hummus are total high carb day indulgences.

[@jen_blues]

General question: How do you find these research studies? I'd like to be able to do more research on my own.

[@Mirgeee]

As much as I like UV for fighting dogma and promoting balanced and reasonable diet and as much as keto is not such, I like this idea of keto experiment. Being free of dogma also means freedom to try things!

[@sethjones4916]

My cronometer doesn't even include choline under vitamins. Is this a paid version, or have they changed it?

[@IrishTwinMaker]

Keto is not a cure for anything, but I would recommend it for anyone with diabetes. Especially if they are insulin dependent like me. Type 1 diabetic 14 years here. It helps to regulate blood sugars and reduce the amount of insulin you need. I do dirty, lazy keto so it's basically an if it fits your macros approach. No calorie, fat, or protein counting and no worries about ingredients so long as the carbs are low. I also take a multivitamin and fish oil because I don't like like seafood. I also use Cron-O-Meter so I'm pretty good about hitting my micros most days. The great thing about keto is that it is so main-stream now that there are more options in grocery stores for packaged foods and you can make almost any food most people eat into a keto dish.

[@garethbaus5471]

It appears to be possible, but we don't have enough information to say with certainty that any ketogenic diet vegan or otherwise is safe they just haven't been studied enough in otherwise normal adults.

[@mechanesthesia]

I'm very interested in your experience doing this type of diet, what are your go to recipes, what are some tips?

[@rachellskerlec4713]

Hey there. What is the program shown for the screen shots of nutrient breakdown? Thanks

[@kashtan6]

"Ketogenic diet is bad because it is full of saturated fat." Really? Is this your reasoning? I started watching your videos because you have seemed to back up your videos with a scientific way of thinking. Why does this keto diet have to be full of saturated fat? It is a choice. You can choose to eat salads with olive oil. You can cook vegetable based meals (like mediterrainian style)or soups with olive oil and eat or drink that. There are options with unsaturated fat. Like avocado, the supreme vegan fruit.There is always a way if you want to make it work. I know keto works because I have a much healthier body since I started a keto vegan diet. With regular vegan diet I am always hungry so sometimes I choose to do a keto version for a week or so and they are like a break from this food centered lives we lead. And I yes I am alive. Thanks.

[@Lawrencelot89]

She said most typical keto diet meal plans she found were high in saturated fat (coconut oil or animal products), so if you want one with low saturated fat you have to do some more research or make up your own meal plans I guess. I might try it out myself. With 'healthier body' do you mean less weight? The weight is my main issue, I did not lose weight after I became a vegan so I have to try something new.

[@kellykat45]

So glad I found your channel!

[@audenfinch1326]

Last time I was this early, vegans still ate normal diets like everyone else...

[@squeakydeedsdonesoapclean3719]

Auden Finch If your point is that vegans should just eat the normal omnivorous diet just so they're like everyone else, why? Vegans have genuine reasons to adhere to this sort diet, like ethics. Things just about one of the pettiest critiques I've heard against veganism.

[@IMatchoNation]

Why keep things simple when you can make them complicated right?

[@samanthatheminimalist]

Squeaky Deeds Done Soap Clean I took the original comment to mean that "back then vegans weren't obsessed with macros" but maybe I'm just a die hard optimist 🤔

[@elinwaghorne]

they mean a 'normal' vegan diet lol relax its okay

[@audenfinch1326]

Squeaky Deeds Done Soap Clean I meant 'normal healthy vegan diets.' I'm vegan, fwiw

[@andreakoch7620]

You know what's kind of funny - your video has 2 ad breaks in it. The first one was for meat and the second one featured seafood. Now that's what you call irony.

[@ericahutchinson3081]

I did not expect Dr.Brule to pop up at the end like that. Lol, for your health.

[@amo9588]

YES!!! I was waiting for this :)

[@saara4296]

Okay this is completely off topic but I have a question about choline. I track what I eat using cronometer and I constantly struggle with getting enough choline, 450mg a day seems almost impossible to reach. I'm always at 200-300mg. I used cronometer to check how much choline I was getting back when I ate meat and dairy and the results were the same, around 200mg. How does one get enough choline from food? Especially as a vegan.

[@shashashasha4239]

How are you getting on with the keto diet? I hope you let us know about your experience.

[@viewhue]

I'd be really interested to see an update on how you did. I find these things fascinating too. It's not for me though. I did some weird nearly all fat thing many many years ago when I was uneducated and desperate (-before I went vegan, I remember it containing macadamia nuts, brie, peanutbutter and like a butter sauce.. o_O ), and anyway a couple of days into it I was violently sick many many times, like I kept throwing up bile for the better part of a day, and then felt completely fine as soon as I had carbs.

[@kiscsibe2]

At the beginning i felt kinda wrong because i feel like trying it (vegan way ofc) even though i know it's quite unhealthy to be so restrictive, but the idea of eating pb (homemade) and avocados is pretty damn appealing lol, but now that you show that it can be done at least a bit right, i might try it for day just see what it's like, i like experimenting, as you. Thanks for the help Swayze!

[@alexpena9927]

this diet takes weeks for your body to adapt. If you do this for only a day you will only feel really awful (this stage is called the keto-flu and happens when your body figures out how to adapt to using fat as fuel). Your body doesn't get well adapted until months of ketosis. Not to mention if your a vegan I would not even consider this diet. Vegan proteins and fat are considerably high in PUFAs (polyunsaturated fatty acids) which can have serious health risks. Yes doctors recommend them a lot (specifically the omega 3s) because it reduces cholesterol but they fail to inform that it also reduces HDL which is cholesterol that is very good for you. This diet really only works with most of your fat coming from saturated fats, which contrary to popular belief, are very healthy, especially in the context of a ketogenic diet because it is the fat that your body can readily convert to energy. The person in the video needs to do more research on the interaction between insulin and saturated fats because it is definitely not the same on a keto diet vs a conventional diet.

[@biolaria]

I was wondering... what do you use to calculate macros and calories? is it a software?

[@malorieann1150]

I want to try this once I'm not pregnant/breastfeeding but in the form of a fast, rather than a diet. Tim Ferris writes about it in Tools of the Titans, it's a really interesting read and I'd love to hear your thoughts on his ideas of keto. I feel my best eating a high fat diet, so I thought adding some fats into a fast like a keto diet would be perfect

[@aliisakalma8245]

how about a video about is it healthier to chew your food well and does it matter and how?

[@9mler]

You are right in that a keto diet is not proven to help with things like cancer or heart disease ; however it IS helpful for things like thyroid disease, PCOS, insulin resistance. obviously, you can't eat "no" carbs. It's impossible. I only eat carbs on the days that I do weight training; on those days I will add something like quinoa, brown rice, some fruit.... but if I'm not doing weights that day, I limit the carbs. I don't follow keto 100% of the time, but more like 85% of the time. I don't always measure everything, I don't get obsessive, I'm not shortchanged on things like calcium or potassium.... so I don't see what the problem is. Obviously keto is not going to cure your cancer. But I do recommend doing some research on how it helps people with hormonal issues such as PCOS which can cause insulin resistance. unfortunately, I do not get the privilege of eating acai bowls and quinoa salads and lentil soup whenever I damn well please. on a low-carb day I will eat both animal and plant based proteins (tuna, eggs, chicken, turkey, seitan, tofu, nuts, nut butters...) and lots of veggies (spinach, asparagus, onions, collards, bok choy, celery, olives, mushrooms, peppers, zuchinni, cucumbers, kim chi, salsa, tomato sauce). Not sure what's wrong with that. If you're like me and your body doesn't use carbs the way it should, that's how you should eat.