Vegans vs Carnivores: Time for Truce? Let's Team Up...

[@PacoCapitola]

Been a carnivore since April 2019. My doctor loathes me for it. She loved me and spoke to me with respect when I was 55lbs overweight, had fatty liver, tinnitus, psoriatic arthritis, no hair, keratosis pilaris, debilitating migraines and cataracts. All disappeared, including growing a lush head of dark hair, within 12 months. My GP told me “Don’t come complain to me when you have a stroke”. My eye doctor on the other hand is impressed and said “I have never seen cataracts disappear”.

[@w1975b]

How much money was she getting from all the drugs you were on for those "issues"? Or even just the office visits.

[@cathiemcginnis3997]

Tinnitus? That seems to be the one horribly annoying issue that hasn't gotten any better while I have been on a very strict carnivore diet for 3 yrs. Dang!

[@taphhedrof1045]

Paco, thanks for that brilliant very helpful information. I am on the Keto diet for 8 weeks to get rid of type 2D, and lower blood pressure. My BP is back to normal and I am now in Pre- Diabetes state, and down 12 lbs. Loving the food. I was Vegetarian for the last 14 years.

[@KayvanSylvan]

sounds like you need to fire your GP.

[@asarcadyn2414]

@@cathiemcginnis3997Many different things can cause tinnitus so maybe the carnivore diet only fixes some of those.

[@petercallinicos]

I've been carnivor for 5 years. I've completely stopped discussing my diet with anyone. No one cares what you eat. I certainly don't care what people eat.😮😮😅😅

[@Jimbo878]

2 years for me, I've also stopped talking about the diet, family and friends I tried to encourage, sent them videos etc, none have paid any heed, despite being witness to the stark visible difference in my own body/energy/ enthusiasm etc. I have been disheartened as many of them would have seen enormous health gains in themselves (especially the obese and type II diabetes sufferers), I got fed hearing the sound of my own voice. So, each to their own.

[@chrissyforanimals]

So very, very true

[@nancychandler768]

I do care what people eat because it affects all of us but focusing on myself is the best way to lead by example.

[@dannymcneal]

@@Jimbo878- Same with me and my friends and family. It’s easy to see food addiction in them. Not only that, but they are frequently bringing up my diet in an effort to belittle me-their obese selves sitting on the sidelines of life. And the rare times that I do fall off the wagon, like at a birthday party, they actually celebrate me coming back to their side for that quick visit. They say, “Well, you can’t give up all your joy! Besides, what’s the use living an extra 3 or 4 years if you’re having to give up all your pleasures?” I sit around the dinner table with them, and all they talk about are their aches and pains (mostly preventable), their doctor appointments (mostly preventable), how much their prescription med cost (mostly preventable), and who has cancer (mostly preventable). I’m done sounding like a broken record, so I will just continue carnivore, enjoying pickleball, and setting a good example-no more advice that they’re not asking for nor welcoming. If they want to know more, I’ll let them ask.

[@BrickMudge]

@@nancychandler768 THANK YOU! LEADING BY EXAMPLE INCLUDES TELLING PEOPLE THINGS THAT THEY DON'T WANT TO HEAR!

[@townvintage]

I was vegetarian for 25 years. As a carnivore I feel better than I ever have my entire life. I think what vegans and carnivores have in common is that a lot of carnivores used to be vegans!

[@josephbeers2256]

Me too!

[@MilaMirage]

@@townvintage agree😂👍🏻

[@terencemichaels]

That's me! And never better in my whole life.

[@stevijay2953]

LoL

[@chesterinabennington7891]

Veganism is long term fasting. They need to rebuild themselves with animal products.

[@nancychandler768]

Honestly, I rarely, if ever, see any comments from carnivores directed at vegans. I do however, see lots of trolls on carnivore chats. I don’t know any carnivore that gives a shit what vegans eat. Eat meat. Eat whole food. 🥩

[@KenDBerryMD]

I see the same thing, but I'm not sure if that's reality or what the algorithm serves me...

[@Papagiorgio153]

Veganism does something to the hardwiring in your brain, some sort of chemical imbalance that causes them to actively search for, and engage in conflict with others. It makes them insufferable ragemongers lol

[@nancychandler768]

@@KenDBerryMD your take on this topic is spot on.

[@BrickMudge]

Let them keep eating plants! There's not enough beef to go around! LOL!

[@rayzztera.3171]

​@BrickMudge as long as they don't start eating grass, that's for our cows!

[@lukag3155]

The concept of health in "The 23 Former Doctor Truths" book completely explains this. I wish I read it sooner.

[@charliegeo2779]

I was vegan for 33 years but never felt healthy. I bit the bullet and switched to carnivore and the improvements in my health are off the charts. I was never one of those asshole vegans who tries to force it on everyone, nor will I be an asshole carnivore, but I do tell everyone who's interested about the improvements I experienced. I'd say decades of depression disappearing within a month was one of the biggest wins of my life. Your videos, and those of some of your colleagues helped me make my decision. Thanks for that!

[@Mistermopar]

👍Beautifully put! your words will inspire many...

[@A1N0]

My question always is, as a Vegan, how do you get enough calories in your day without resorting to rice, pasta, bread, potatoes, and other very carb heavy foods? I never could.

[@charliegeo2779]

French fries are vegan. I had a big belly and didn't get rid of it on Vegan. Enough years of eating all the things I now know not to eat made it very easy for me to put on weight.

[@clare2432]

@@A1N0 I did it successfully for seasons at a time with very high fruit - many bananas, watermelons, mangoes, dates etc and green smoothies. It feels amazing short term and my BMI was 18. The problem is sourcing so much fruit and having time to eat it all. Running on sugar feels very good and makes you want to run more. But not sustainable

[@dj.h7424]

Vegan wfpb never felt better, life without eating meat is blissful and by the bloods and metrics is super healthy! Meat isn't food, doesn't even look like it, just looks like what it is; death. Processed food the same, evil!!

[@morganantoinettephoenix1107]

I was vegan for 10 years and it ended giving me several and severe health conditions. Thankfully carnivore helps me on a daily basis after just 3 months.

[@Learningthetruth7]

Me, too!

[@RazGee]

Same. I was a raw vegan for 6 years, so basically starving. In the end, I had more health problems than I had when I was living on fast food, soda and ice cream. Has carnivore helped you get rid of the vegan-induced illnesses? I'm recently consistently keto and have seen great results, but I wonder what would happen if I could give up my beloved broccoli and cabbage. I feel like I would starve because I don't eat eggs or nuts, or at least get tired of just meat and butter.

[@grinpick]

I tried eating vegan. I tried eating exclusively carnivore. The latter helped me transition to sharply restricting refined carbs, by which I mean, for the sake of simplicity, sugar and flour. But I did not feel great under either strict regime. I currently consume a lot of meat and animal fat and also eat salads and steamed vegetables. And I feel pretty good. I'm 77, do a 4 mile jog two or three times a week and take no prescription meds. One additional point: if you're exclusively vegan or carnivore and allow your preference to become a moral issue, that attitude will make rational discussion of dietary choice difficult. In my experience this attitude is more common among vegans, many of whom seem to think that eating meat is tantamount to killing another human. I'll admit that during the 18 months or so during which I tried to be strictly vegan, I allowed that choice to become a moral issue for me. I regret that. It has been over twenty years since my vegan phase and I still find myself apologizing to people for the lofty and sanctimonious pronouncements I subjected them to during that time.

[@TheBudgetWarrior]

Same here. Meat and veg with occasional fruit/berry. It’s easy to stick to, easy to eat out, and I’m healthier than ever.

[@marinavanmens6563]

Same here …. Carnivore didn’t t work for me but will continue eating more meat than I used to

[@djtoman6875]

Very well said. I don’t have a problem with vegans, as long as they shut up and live and let live.

[@terencemichaels]

I echo your experience ....well said.

[@cufever]

It's a good idea. I was vegan when I found you on KZbin. I was vegan because my doctor recommended it for health reasons. I was not vegan for ethical reasons. However, I developed type 2 diabetes. I found you and cured my diabetes within 2 months. Let's bring vegans along with us.

[@sportysbusiness]

If it helps, vegan is an ethical movement with zero to do with health. Plant based is eating plants only for health. The word vegan is now being incorrectly used to cover 2 meanings. A bit like the word woman...

[@bezoar21]

If someone feels good and is healthy, it amazes me that someone else should care what they are eating. We all have to figure out what works for ourselves. Having lost 130 pounds and resolved many medical issues, I have found what works for me. If someone else refuses to eat meat, that leaves more for me.

[@jimrutherford2773]

You're somewhat naive because vegans are on a political and environmental crusade. It's not only about one diet being better than the other.

[@Sara-pb6lj]

I’ve experimented with both a plant based woe, as well as a very low carb/carnivore-light woe (my health markers didn’t change either way). I’m at the point in my life where my focus is much more on eliminating the ultra processed stuff. In September I quit my Diet Coke habit, and have since cut out all artificial sweeteners. I’m working towards a whole foods diet, containing both plant and animal sources. No vegan fake foods and no keto fake foods. Great video Dr. B!

[@Ami_Decristo]

Dr Berry, I sincerely cherish you and Neisha. The two of you have been so inspiring to me. This video is another great perspective. Thank you for everything.

[@MindYourOwn777]

It’s a great message here. 👍🏽 “United we stand, divided we fall.”

[@BeefNEggs057]

Misguided when the other side wants you to stop existing. Depopulation agenda is what you’re trying to compromise with. There is no compromise with that.

[@WorldsGreatestRingAnnouncer]

My biggest stichk is that vegans denial of the process that gets them most of their products. They claim it’s “animal cruelty free”. For example, soybeans require farmers to eliminate all animals in the farming fields. Animals include rodents and birds. It’s hypocritical.

[@marciavimazal8692]

While I agree animals need to be humanly treated, just remember cows in their current state are bread to eat. Some consider cows as pets, but this is not most of us. Just because you may have a pet dog doesn't mean you will eat that dog because that's not why the dog was bread. Great video!

[@kevincaruthers5412]

@@marciavimazal8692 The word is 'bred' not 'bread'. One describes genetic transfer. The other is an excuse to eat butter. :)

[@BeefNEggs057]

@@marciavimazal8692 They exist to give us nutrition. Your plants are grown and kill wild animals by the boatload to give you “nutrition.” What’s the difference? The cows wouldn’t exist if they were not to be eaten. The wild animals your agriculture kills would exist in greater numbers. Cows improve soil. Ag ruins soil and contributes by far the most to water quality problems.

[@AnteroH]

Your statement is over exaggerated but I understand your point and small critters get killed during the farming process. But would you consider the intentional killing of a person the same as an auto accident that kills someone? Thats how vegans think of it. The intentional killing of an animal is cruel while the accidental killing of an animal is sad and unfortunate.

[@WorldsGreatestRingAnnouncer]

@@AnteroH it’s not being hyperbolic. Avocados and Almonds in California for example require massive amounts of bee importations. 2/3rds don’t survive the journey. Tens of millions of bees die needlessly just to have avocado toast. Soybeans are even worse. Hundreds of birds and vermin in a 10 acre farming sector just to get your soy beans. This involves poisoning, shooting, etc. there are alternatives like tomatoes, potatoes etc that don’t require those drastic measures, but they’re nutrient lacking. Look if vegans know this, accept the risk and don’t refer it to “cruelty-free”, most people don’t take issue. The problem is that they use semantics to downplay this such as animal deaths are byproducts of this, so no animal was harmed in the harvesting. Thus, cruelty free. Carnivores accept that you have to kill an animal in order to harvest its meats. We want to minimize the pain and suffering, a minimally cruel death and having an stress-free environment to develop in. That’s the big difference.

[@kimhetelle9524]

I love that you are reaching out & noticing the more similarities than differences...this is how mature & emotionally mature people have healthy conversations & sometimes just respectfully agree to disagree! I think we need to get back to more of this and less social media bashing behind a hidden keyboard! Way to go Dr B...my husband and I are new 6 weeks to Carnivore and loving the results so far! Maybe RFK willput you on his team!!! Youd be a phenomenal resource ❤

[@annaferdowsian11]

I was vegetarian for 20 years with lots of vegan years sprinkled throughout. The main difference being as a vegetarian.I ate eggs and consumed dairy products. I could never stay a strict vegan because I became very sickly every time. My personal motivation was the horrid ethical practices of factory farming and big ag. Then i developed severe anemia and had to change my entire lifestyle. I'm grateful to have had the guidance of this channel. These days I have ditched the dairy and still enjoy loads of veggies of all kinds and I've slowly healed my anemia, thanks to healthy grass fed beef and other more ethically sourced red meats. Thank you for this channel and all that you do to help others 🙏 ❤!!!

[@GramaSagefeather]

Me too

[@STrouwborst]

Spot on! There's enough conflict in the world. I can only but totally agree with this. Let's start by being kind to one another and then join together in our effort to be better and healthier human beings.

[@paulhailey2537]

I was a 455 pound Vegetarian and now I'm a 200 pound CARNIVORE

[@AnonymousPerson488]

Wow! Vegetarian but processed chips, pasta, bread I assume?

[@Pvt-Lenny]

@@AnonymousPerson488 yea im on carnivore but this claim he makes about 455 on vegan is sus 🤣

[@paulhailey2537]

@AnonymousPerson488 Whole Grains and Fruit just like my Doctor Told me. Was always Starving to Death ☠️ following the Doctor's Advice

[@leeuniverse]

@@Pvt-Lenny .... Actually, it's NOT "sus".... Why? Because especially if you're eating a lot of "Whole Grains", in the form of Rice, Noodles, or Breads you can gain a LOT of weight. Vegan's can really go either way, either skinny or overweight.

[@martakaczmarek6886]

​@@paulhailey2537 If we are not nourished to the fullest by macro and micro nutrients, brain keeps continue sending "eating" demand and we turn into eating machines, even catching sweets to kill this hunger. I have 171 cm 65 kg, I actually gained 5-6 kg including a lot of visible muscle. The best is this lack of hunger. In summer I had to take a flight, I ate big plate of meat, eggs and avocado in the morning and ate again after 10 hours, with no hunger. It is beatiful.

[@stephenford5031]

Congratulations! Ken and Neisha, I greatly respect how you are trying to merge our partners with the Whole Foods concept. Many thanks for sending out the olive branch to Anyone who would like to improve their health, Hazza!

[@tarabooartarmy3654]

I’m not a vegan but I do eat mostly plant based. I tried keto and carnivore and felt sick the whole time. I’m not against either lifestyle for people who do well on it, I just personally felt horrible even though I lost over 100 pounds. I have zero hate toward the keto/carnivore community and I absolutely agree that big food and ultraprocessed junk are the common enemies. And seed oils! Whether you’re eating carnivore, vegan, or anywhere in between, eating primarily whole food is the way to go. I feel very, very good on my current way of eating and my health has improved drastically. I think it’s wonderful that there are multiple ways people can improve their health and feel better while still eating a diet they enjoy. I think it’s beautiful for all of us to get along and try to help one another with kindness and understanding.

[@lesliehunter1340]

Well said!!! Thanks for the balanced reply!!

[@miklimecat9636]

🤔 I wonder if the not feeling good was due to the transition period when the body is switching from being carb-fueled to being fat-fueled. Dr. Phinney and Volek's study indicated it took an average of 3 weeks to adjust to a keto diet. And an additional 3 months or so for the body to become fat-adapted enough for exercise performance to return to normal.

[@theresaharding7375]

I very much appreciate the calls to action: no more vegan vs carnivore "warring" words, and work together to destabilize the corporatization of food and hopefully a return to regenerative farming for whomever is being fed, and whatever is being grown. Thank you for putting yourself in the crosshair of this discourse, because you are widely respected, and what you say has gravitas in many spheres of influence.

[@ShamsTheProducer]

I absolutely love this! I did a vegan diet on 2 separate occasions in my life, each duration was about 2 years. I didn't feel healthier or noticed any major difference with my health. I am now 48 years old and started my carnivore journey about 45 days ago. I am still getting used to it, loving it though. I appreciate this video because it makes sense to highlight the things that Carnivores and Vegans agree on, as opposed to constantly debating and arguing about what way of eating is better. Both sides are advocating for the ultimate goal, which is to cure or reverse obesity and the diseases that often develop as a result. I believe we all (mostly) can agree that 'Big Food' and 'Big Pharma' would prefer to keep people sick and medicated for 'Big Profits".

[@debbieclark813]

Agree with Dr. Berry let’s work together to get rid of the harmful foods like sugar, ultra processed foods & seed oils!! The rest can be debated respectfully

[@bluedove7876]

I appreciate you pointing out things we have in common in this extremely divisive environment today. I do talk about my Proper Human Diet. I don't mind that people consider it weird. They see me refuse the pizza, the cookies, and the candy over and over again. They see that I never cave and say 'just this once'. When people seem interested in my commitment or in some of the benefits I've experienced, but say "I just couldn't do that." I don't argue or proselytize. I say, "More whole foods, less sugar."

[@JeanneBergeron-c5n]

It's always good to reach across the aisle

[@BeefNEggs057]

Not when the other side is holding a knife. Bad idea. They want you gone lady. It’s sad so many are ignorant of the vegan cult’s real depopulation agenda.

[@Fosterw2]

Thanks for all you do Dr KDB - GREAT SHIRT !!!! Most def, we gotta team up to get our country / children healthy and thinking clearly again for sure

[@LyneGuy]

That was a great review of common points. In the same line as improving how animals are treated, we should also consider how monocultures and agriculture is not necessarily the best for our planet and for our food source, which is very depleted.

[@colleenhaithcock216]

❤❤❤❤ thank you, I grew up in Michigan, where much of the Cereal industry is located. And as a result of the need for boxes, the box factories have polluted the river, rivers, and then onto the Lake Michigan. How we transform the economy of that state for both health and environment is really important

[@wtk6069]

Logically speaking, why should carnivores and vegans ever fight? We'll never be in competition for the same food supply. Being no threat to one another should make us natural allies.

[@Sabgoed]

Dr. Berry, I don't think I have thanked you for all the information you have put out there for us. I have been following you and your info for more than 3 years. I am doing the low carb and have went from 220 to 165. I had so much wrong with this body, but I am healing it now. Slow and steady is how I am healing. So once again Thank you.

[@gigisc6844]

Vegan for 16 years. I feel great to have an abundance of energy, and I follow your channel. Vegan works for me, and carnivore diet works great for my husband. Thank you for your videos. it is very informative and helpful 👍

[@krisjost988]

Thank you Dr Berry for your attempt at some reconciliation between the Carnivore & Vegan camps. I was raised in a vegetarian home and have some Vegan family members (7th day Adventist). I’m mostly Carnivore to heal from a diet that did not provide full metabolic health and resulted in CVD and pre-diabetes 2. Vegans tend to be militant about it and your kind attempt to offer an olive branch speaks to your integrity and humanity!

[@fragout45mightyjungle63]

I'm ketovore right now and feeling great, so totally agree with you. By the way I love that shirt.

[@peacewithHim]

My opinion only. There is true middle ground here that, if taken by both preferred eating styles, will benefit all in the fight for healthier humans. Large companies promoting highly processed items that, for the most part, are not even food at all and the pharmaceutical companies making a huge profit off the unwell coupled with insurance companies making bank off illnesses caused by all that are the real enemies of health. Both preferred eating styles need to stand together against them.

[@soupnazi5139]

The issue is that a vocal minority of vegans view animal rights violations as a modern day holocaust and thus do not really care about the accuracy of their nutrition claims (as long as they prevent some animal deaths).

[@BeefNEggs057]

They’d certainly save the animal over you if given a choice. No question.

[@w1975b]

@@BeefNEggs057 some of them even put animal lives above their own kids' health. And a few have gone to prison because those kids are no longer living as a result of forced veganism.

[@alanraza2570]

Plants are living beings with consciousness as well. To say it's okay to eat plants but not animals actually doesn't make sense. It's vampire either way, consuming other life forms to sustain one's self, which actually isn't natural but that's how it works here.

[@w1975b]

@@alanraza2570 David Icke speaks of a schism that occurred which resulted in animals needing to consume other life. May have happened, may not, just sharing one of the things I heard him say that is related to this subject.

[@adelarsen9776]

@@BeefNEggs057 Yes. The vegans espouse animal liberation yet they often talk about being violent to humans. They are twisted deluded disciples of a death cult whom mortgage their health for an ideology.

[@lynnhilding3200]

I love this approach. I was introduced to PhD by a lady who came to my sale over 2 years ago. I am 74 and have healed from ibs, pre-diabetic labs, neuropathy and have been tumor free after lung and brain melanoma tumors removed over a year ago. Thank you and keep up the open communication. ❤

[@GeezyCarnivore]

The biggest difference between us and them is that we as carnivores suggest that our way of eating is beneficial and possibly the best way to eat where as they insist that we all conform to their dogma.

[@rhondae8222]

Exactly! TBH

[@OP-lk4tw]

because the difference is they are approaching diet from a moral pov, we from a nutritional one, that's where the dissonance happens

[@julienfroidevaux1143]

​@@OP-lk4twVegans have health outcomes data like Dean Ornish heart study shows Carnivores have anecdotes .

[@adelarsen9776]

Vegans mortgage their health for an ideology. Carnivores eat for health. It only takes 2 minutes for a vegan to go from food to man made climate change and show their Marxist traits.

[@marlomullane7157]

I am very glad you addressed this as there is so much controversy out there causing a lot of confusion for many people'. Thank you for all of your good advice.

[@GramaSagefeather]

We all need to stop fighting about everything. Humans have been divided by every conceivable subject. Thank you for reaching out. Another thing that connects both camps, is soil health, pesticide, herbicide use, and air pollution. All these toxins go into our food supply, and decrease wildlife, and native plant health. RFK Jr. now has a podcast on KZbin. He is talking to food producers, and addressing/exposing information so that the public can understand how our food supply has been co opted by big gov/industry.

[@DarthCarnivore]

It was great finally being able to shake your hand and thank you in person at KPL recently Dr. Berry! If someone is able to be healthy or even thrive on vegan diets, it doesn't invalidate my lived experiences or successes on carnivore but I think among many self-proclaimed ethical vegans, our collective N=1 successes on carnivore seems to invalidate significant parts of their worldview and identities. It can be hard to bridge the gap in perspectives between those who came to carnivore for individual health reasons and vegans who came to that way of eating for all-encompassing moral worldview reasons. But not impossible. I think you set a good example of how to bridge divides like vegan vs. carnivore. Keep up the great work!

[@jimrutherford2773]

Remember folks, this vegan vs carnivore goes beyond people thinking one diet is better health wise than the other. It involves animal rights, politics, environment. Vegans look at it as blue against red.

[@rollinupeverest5042]

Right their angles are the bs

[@alstraker]

I've always been blue and have been carnivore for 5yrs. It's a shame politics get mixed up in it because all humans deserve real, whole food without political partisanship.

[@everybodylovesraymond1275]

I bleed red...... enough said. (Mic drop.....)

[@sharvo6]

Reaching across the aisle to open minds to common principles and common good ... not very fashionable in many spheres at the moment ... best of luck! Maybe you'll start a trend 👍

[@scottpierce9195]

I've always thought you approached this debate the right way. I am a beef bacon butter and eggs guy myself but I agree that at least the vegans get it, it's the food that's killing us.

[@Nu_Merick]

i got to hang out with one good friend of mine from high school. we only hung out with other friends but we got to hang out 1 on 1. i knew he was vegan for years and i was keto since 2018, but we have other things in common, gaming, exercise, etc. Yea i found it to be surprisingly civil talking between both diets. he understands ketosis and utilizes it on fasting as do i. We get out macros differently but asked how he gets his fats and gets them from olive oil, avocados, etc. We talk about vitamins and proteins and also agree that ELIMINATING PROCESSED foods was the HUGE common ground. its crazy how online, these debates turn into hateful arguements but we are both open minded about it. i tried vegan brownies at his place and it was real good, and he tried zevia i brought over. he does take a bit more vitamins than i do but TBH i told him, our goals are the same, we just get there sort of differently. it was a revelation. and its funny you posted this bc this conversation happened last month lol

[@johntbehan5731]

This is a very good start and help stop the guilt tripping so many and come together on regenerative farming and getting nutrients back into the soil and much more on how animals are raised and how there lives are ended for food i have been on both side,s of this and put me and many people off....thank you

[@GramaSagefeather]

Exactly ❤

[@TOMGARVEYtheKETOCOOK]

It`s apparent that someone is fueling the feud between both sides to fight! Big Food I believe. The processing of both meat and veggies is the problem with contracting some sort of E-coli, salmonella and so on! I remember the days when we would eat from the seasons! Bring back the family cattle ranch, and family vegetable farms.

[@briantrout7051]

Meaningful conversations are difficult when people have no interest in learning, only arguing. I know what it feels like to be a vegan and falling apart despite eating like all of those vegan doctors tell us to. So far, heavy meat based low-carb (have never made it to full on carnivore) has not been like that for me, and I've been at this for most of a decade now. Brief times of high carbs have told me that I would not do well (or feel well) to return to old eating habits, even with "good whole foods". For those who have decided to be vegans, I wish them well, sincerely. But they won't convince me that I'd do well as a vegan because I've been there, I wasn't well.

[@kenmarinc]

Thank you for your content and commitment 🙏🏿

[@th5579]

It’s also important to get our soil, using cattle, etc, healthy again!

[@joeyg2860]

Safe to assume Dr. Berry supports RFK JR’s efforts to reform FDA,etc…

[@loriematthews6418]

I certainly do! Never seen so many chemicals! It's absolutely egregious.

[@tammylynn00]

Great video Dr Berry, thank you!💜

[@shimmerofadiamond]

Focusing on why we are all similar instead of how we are different will always lead to positive outcomes! Great video!

[@Reilly-jr1sq]

Dr. Berry, I think that if more vegans who are not eating meat because they don't want to kill an animal knew about all the death involved in agriculture's methods for growing plants, AND if they knew about the advantages to the earth, the animals, and the humans with regenerative farming, many heads would be turned. How about a shortened version of your interview with Lierre Keith, for example? Vegans/vegetarians would greatly benefit from this information! thanks for considering this.

[@dannyking7695]

I would like to see a discussion of the inactive ingredients in over the counter medication, especially the liquid medications. It’s very alarming what’s in them!

[@lezliesecundaGLP-RD]

We stopped properly evolving as a species. Reach across. I put in 8 years of dietetic study having to go backwards in those areas to look up how my studies were done. I will be the best RD. God bless you and your beautiful wife.

[@ernesthader1109]

I believe we're actually regressing phyaically aince the start of agriculture revolution. We had bigger brain, leaner, perfect sets of teeth and has practically no metabolic disease back then.

[@derkvandertuin6058]

You did absoluutly the right thing to promote a truce between both ways of eating. I am carnivore and came from a whole food plant based diet, but after changing to carnivore have not felt better then ever before. Yes, indeed, as you mentioned. when I became WFPB, for a while I felt better, but after a few year did not feel right. That's the time when I found Carnivore by watching Mikhaila Peterson and your video's and chaganged to Carnivore in January this year, and have lost 20 lbs have energy galore and never felt better. Thank you Dr Berry.

[@0e32]

I know quite a few people here in Sweden who are either vegetarians or vegans and unfortunately many of them seem to be feeling pretty bad both mentally and physically. But people can eat what they want as far as I'm concerned..!

[@Soulstice1319]

I was just thinking of this a few days back, all of the points you mentioned. I deeply appreciate how you have handled both sides respectfully, factually, and truthfully. I absolutely think we humans most of us, are tired of these big fight and online debates across politics, culture wars, and food diets too. As a ketovore I would love to see more content like this. Hats off to you Dr Barry for doing such a fab job on this topic

[@steveguti6452]

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[@bobbylee2853]

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[@deborrahdutra5599]

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[@User-z1g3z]

@Steveguti64We thank God for both their lives and expedient recovery unto excellent health in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth 🙏❣️👩‍🍼🌻

[@Reilly-jr1sq]

GREAT idea for a video (reaching across the aisle of approaches), well said dr. Berry, thank you!

[@alfredkeith1272]

I think the most important thing is to actually think about what you put in your body

[@Grannievore]

Fantastic video, Dr. Berry. I love that you are right on target all the time you’ve done so much for people thank you so much.

[@rhondae8222]

Thank you, Dr. Berry.

[@sherrykinkade7134]

Dr Berry I just love you! I am 73 and have followed you for a long time. 99 percent Carnivore, whole host of benefits including 50 pound weight loss! I wish all doctors were like you. Thank you for making this video. I agree we all need to work together. ❤

[@sadiesusu1]

I’m a former vegan and think this is a great idea!

[@feminineandfreeinforties]

Great video!! I love how your heart was so open while discussing both the options!! Learning loads!!

[@_Solaris]

This will be difficult. Carnivores in general eat what they consider species-appropriately as a principle. Vegans in general eat what they consider morally & ideologically as a principle. The one thing we have in common is our belief that we're eating for health. Despite this, I'm not convinced this will be enough to bring us together.

[@richardclark8656]

Nice work! Thank you so much for this video. Proud of you!! We need voices of people who honestly care about the health and well being of our country (not to mention the rest of the world). You’re talking not only about what’s wrong with our health picture but about the numerous positive steps we can take and how we can come together to make it happen more efficiently. I know you raise your own livestock and care deeply about animal welfare. Thanks for talking about that, there’s a positive future for many young people in that field. Overall a very positive contribution to the health of all of us!

[@tlewis5901]

Dr. Ken D. Berry I think this is great that you propose to "reach across dividing lines" to vegans. I must state that the first time I heard and came to a conclusion of N=1 was from your lovely wife Neisha; it really hit home for me. If YOUR CHOICE of diet for YOU is working, then that is the bottom line, BUT do not force your 'success' on others work together on the greater good for the situation; which is stopping mistreatment of animals in industry, mistreatment of humans in 'big food' AND accomplishing the Make America HEALTHY Again movement. Without good health we are dead ......... thanks to all the good 'Docs' who treat the person and not the pocket.

[@DoeA-Deer]

Dr Berry I am more Carnivore (due to health reasons and I loved Vegan eating). However, I believe a united stance would be more impactful. The time is NOW. I know we can do this. I "NEVER ENJOYED" this battle anyway. Yes Dr Berry, try your hardest and we will too. There are MANY lovely Vegan promoters too, that I have watched in duscussion with Carnivores. Our hearts are ALL in the right place. X

[@justthinking526]

Amen! Eat real food. Bless it to your body, be grateful for it. Stay away from judgement of others. We will all be healthier all around

[@ianstuart5660]

That Judgemental part seems to be impossible to stop for way too many people! 😢😢

[@justthinking526]

@ianstuart5660 i know. All i can do is take my own advice and be the change. Bless.

[@ianstuart5660]

@@justthinking526 Thanks, same to you!...❤️

[@cherylcoan]

100 per cent. I've known many vegatarians through the years and they thrived on their way of eating and still do, it certainly didn't make them lesser than anyone else. I'm with you Doctor Berry. I have a friend who has been veggan for at least 4 years or more and she carries a beautiful leather purse, We need to stop judging people for how they chose to live their lives, and crawl out of the box.

[@veronicaheaney3464]

“Reaching across the aisle” is a fantastic idea. While I find the idea of the genetic diet ludicrous and extreme, I think that what each individual needs in terms of nutrition is individual and at least partially the result of our ancestry. Basically (my belief here), we developed in a specific way so our bodies could take full advantage of the food that was available. However, we are all human, and to meet the needs of the human body, we need specific nutrients. How much and how we get them will differ - that’s the individual part. We need to keep this in mind and not be judgmental. IF a person complains of a health issue which we believe could be relieved by a change in diet, AND IF they ask what we would do, THEN Offer your opinion, kindly. Otherwise, keep your opinion to yourself.

[@diandenmark]

YAY! Robert Lustig has been "preaching" this for years - the mutual respect necessary among all of us who are appalled by Frankenfoods. My sense is that there are large individual differences in what a good human diet is - just as there are individual differences in responses to medicines.

[@judymartius7779]

I just eat whole none processed foods

[@lorenarmenti6295]

Vegetarian here . . . for ethical reasons. I'm not one of those ppl who preaches that everyone should give up meat (although, that would be utopian). I DO believe that a carnivore diet is species appropriate. I wish I could eat meat, fish, etc. without the thought of it making me nauseous. Abstaining from meat definitely makes it challenging to maintain optimal health relative to nutrients, protein, etc.. Thank you for all you do to educate.

[@kathy32850]

Change does not happen overnight. It's cumulative which is why it takes years for vegans to see the damage that's been done. I'm 74 and it took 50 years before I saw the damage sugar, seed oils, etc., has done to my health. I'm not carnivore (maybe ketovore) and my doctor just said I am healthier than most women my age. I'll take that.

[@janeholsclaw4232]

Thanh you so much for making this extremely important and I hope helpful video. I agree, there are many things that we agree on and we need to focus on those things and stop being nasty and mean to one another. We are all willing to sacrifice eating unhealthy processed foods so we can be as healthy as possible. We just don’t happen to agree on what those foods happen to be. Love you Dr. Berry and Neisha and so appreciate everything you do. My husband and I both feel that you have saved our lives.

[@robyn3349]

Thank you! “The Whole Foods Diet Alliance!” ❤ Reach out!

[@DoeA-Deer]

Back again Dr Berry. Thanks for your really excellent book. Greatly Appreciated. X

[@GS-st9ns]

🐷🐔 Eat more beef

[@wirelessone2986]

And sardines!

[@nogames8982]

As far as I’m concerned, people can eat whatever they want. And that includes me. You eat what you want. I’ll eat what I want. Don’t force your beliefs on me.

[@argentummolonlabe]

Great idea to reach across the aisle! We really shouldn't create "sides". It is human nature though as we are tribal in nature but we all need to find a diet that works for each of us and has the healthiest food possible. I'm raising my own chickens, lamb and beef now and it's changed my life! As the research grows about the carnivore diet, I think more people will see the benefit and try it out. I love your idea of not forcing anything too hard to fast. Education is the key. We need to push individualism not collectivism as G. Edward Griffin would say.

[@Tmanaz480]

A prominent vegan leader wrote an article a while back reminding vegans that they're not doing it for their health; it's an ethical position. He freely admitted he gladly sacrifices optimum nutrition in order to respect animal rights.

[@w1975b]

Veganism started in the US as a religious view. Because "eating animals leads to sinful urges", per John Kellogg (yes, the cereal king).

[@hippie-io7225]

Great idea!! "Understanding" does not mean "condoning". Let's do a better job at understanding each other first, then respectfully debating what we think might improve the lives of each other. With a focus on helping each other.

[@buckshotscott2616]

Good message, people think I'm nuts. But, I'm down 70 pounds since May. Mostly carnivore with a few lapses in judgment.

[@kellyklassen5970]

Thank you Dr Berry, your heart for people is amazing! We tend to look at outward appearances when we really need to look at the heart. If we did that we would gain unity in our diversity

[@CharlotteMagdeliene]

This is the most Pluto moved into Aquarius video ever - posted on the day Pluto moves into aqaurius lol love it Uniting that’s the future !!

[@anigrace3073]

I love your message ❤ I totally agree that vegans and carnivores should join forces instead of fighting ( the big companies want us all to be confused because that makes them powerful and rich while we’re down here fighting). I don’t quite agree with you on the sugar topic though: many raw vegan and raw till 4 or even HCLF (high carb low fat/starch solution) promote sugar. Sugar either in fruit form, juiced, maple syrup or by blending several bananas with dates and water. Some strongly promote 40+ day juice fasts followed by a high carb/high fruit diet with hardly any fats (80/10/10) and this person is an ex-carnivore). In my experience, most vegans are pro-carbohydrates and anti-fats and carnivores are pro-fat and anti-carbohydrates.

[@stellarogers-oo4di]

I was vegan, now I’m carnivore. I am from Nashville TN grew up on a Farm.

[@MHines]

Well said. I have friends that are vegan, and to tell you the truth, it's hard not to express how well me and my husband feel, not to mention reversing my husband's diabetes, and high blood pressure. I do try to talk about the commonalities as you did but I can't help but think about all of the carbs she is eating in an attempt to meet her protein needs. But she's happy and she feels healthy so I try to just leave the "lifestyle" out of it. I can imagine as a Doctor this is a challenge since you meet so many people from different walks of life. Thanks!

[@KenWang1]

What Vegans and and Carnivores both have in common is that they both cheat on their diets 😂

[@suzannescheve9070]

Reaching out to our vegan friends is wonderful and inspires connection and cooperation vs fighting. We all need to educate the collective about how big food/pharma are making us sick- and how a lack of knowledge about fake foods is our downfall. We must educate ourselves and each other and stand together. ❤️

[@CarnivoreDan]

Good ol' boy from Florida , Carnivore since 7/23. I've experience more benefits than I would have thought possible. I am terribly distraught from watching loved ones literally eat themselves to death and talk of the next pill, or the next dr appt, or the next treatment or therapy. The addiction is too deep, the junk to addictive. I can't tell people they are actually brainwashed junkies , druggies. Addicted to the chemicals in the food and what they are eating has an immediate , direct and detrimental causative effect on their body and mind. Nobody wants to hear it, they are too dumbed down, sick,tired. Just like to the govt wants. winning

[@Linda-ic1il]

Low class remark towards loved ones!!! I'm carnivore but I don't judge my loved ones in a horrible low class way and I'm a proud Jersey Girl!

[@dowhatyoulove3216]

I think this video is great. I have been vegetarian, vegan, and now carnivore. I can see why people choose these various different diets, mostly because you want to be healthy and you think you are doing the right thing.❤

[@cheffatgrams]

Looks like Dr Berry watched my 30 day Vegetarian Challenge 😂🤣

[@KenDBerryMD]

I haven't, but I will!

[@cheffatgrams]

@ 🤣😂 just kidding! I posted a challenge I did back in September 11 days ago, then I saw Nick’s video and yours. Honestly, I still haven’t fully recovered, and weirdly enough, I ended up getting the worst cold I’ve had since starting keto after that challenge. I don’t think I’ll be doing it again anytime soon! Have a blessed day

[@luislarriu3381]

I’m mostly changing from a ketovore diet to a more carnivore diet and I’m feeling great after losing about 49lbs, reversing so many of my conditions, one of them being onset dementia. I have had good support from my medical care. I truly hope that Senator RF Kennedy has success in steering our tax paid dollars to protecting our nutrition in the food industry by incentivizing them to ban bad ingredients in our foods as many other countries have done as many experts have testified in the September 23 3024 Health Crisis Roundtable in DC took place. Which everyone should listen to if they have not yet, on KZbin. Thanks for giving us your knowledge and information that has helped me in my health journey.

[@steveguti6452]

Jesus Christ died for our Sins according to the scriptures and that he was buried and that he rose Again the third day praise God praying for everyone Everyday God bless you all. .

[@chriss4949]

“According to the scriptures”

[@NC700_68]

cool story bro.

[@MikeVSasquatch]

WTF you talking about Wilbur...

[@jibinscience3457]

First thing he ate after resurrection is fish 🐠

[@danielandmariewalter]

Don’t forget about Jesus’ life and ministry.

[@camperjack2620]

Well said! I believe the whole food consisting of nutrient dense items and cutting out junk food and cutting out or down on sweets to the bare minimum would solve 90 percent of our problems. Then we need to fine tune our understanding of how to reap benefits from fruits and vegetables nuts and seeds without being adversely affected by antinutrients. I have tried a bunch of health food diets in the past and nothing has even come close to the success of low carb, keto and carnivore. I cheat on my carnivore with onions and carrots and mushrooms on my eggs. I have sweet potato at dinner. I add a pint of ice cream to my shopping cart, but I am going to try to quit that this winter. I watched a Barbara O'Neal segemnt suggesting cayenne pepper. That will cure your cold hands and cold feet!

[@BroJerHWG]

The vegans push their religion on folks... carnivores mostly tell folks what a blessing the diet has been for them. Big difference...i dont get in folks face about how i eat...and i dont appreciate the wacks getting in my face, correcting my plate from across the table.. vegans can do what they want... i dont care ....but they are seriously committed to putting their focus on me spouting their dogma. Simply put: They have no respect for folks who disagree or wont comply with their dogma 😂❤