VEGAS Movie Studio is Dead: Rest in Peace you Glorious Software

[@DavidUtke]

Movie Studio 17 was a $60 one time fee, leverages the GPU for edits and rendering, can handle 4k clips and has the fastest editing of any software I've tried. It's not as feature rich as FCP or Resolve, but I loved the way the timeline worked. It really was an under rated piece of software and it's what got me started with video editing.

[@TechDiveAVCLUB]

A proper eulogy

[@CalvaryChapelSantee]

Same here. I use it every day.

[@NorthKoreanMusic]

@@CalvaryChapelSantee Does it work on Windows 11?

[@CalvaryChapelSantee]

@@NorthKoreanMusic Yes. So far, no problems on my Win11 machine at home.

[@BecksHobbyProductions]

So is Vegas Pro Edit the best upgrade option if you are used to Movie Studio and would like to have the same features but dont really need the full pro version?

[@TechDiveAVCLUB]

Vegas pro edit should be all you need!

[@oo0Spyder0oo]

Oh no, sorry to hear about the dog’s demise. I hate that part of life when you have to go through this, my pets are family members, I share your pain. Focus on the good life you gave him/her, there are so many in worse situations. Time will heal. My condolences.

[@TechDiveAVCLUB]

Thanks! It's my wife's childhood dog so it's a big family momemt

[@1RCFlightSchool]

I'm getting an error message trying to open a DJI drone mp4 video file from a U3 high speed card in Movie Studio: Error occurred. Most likely corrupted or wrong format. Any suggestions? Thanks!!

[@mifab3606]

Hello how is it if they are doing this Im getting a upgrade notice ? I have 17.0 Platinum and the upgrade is for Movie studio 2022 Platinum?

[@ndsprivacydigitalsecurity4406]

Yeah, it was a bit sloppy of Magix to slide the 18 in there. They should have introduced the studio line replacement without the ambiguity. Thanks for the clarification regarding Pro and sorry to hear about your dog. Take care!

[@achimforst6097]

It's more than sloppy! (read my comment above)

[@kelyhi]

I'm still using Movie Studio Platinum 12, I'm seeing its age with newer 2k videos as 12 downgrades to 1080P. Whats a good upgrade for me?

[@billettescrafts]

Tech dive, can you help me?! I recently (today) downloaded movie studio platinum 18. Noticed it was way different then my movie studio 13.0 that I've been using for like 5 years. Is this change on layout what you've been talking about here in this video. It's like it doesn't even look right. Is there a way to get refunded or am I out $60 bucks. Your thoughts? Wish I would have found this video before I purchased it. Also, what do I upgrade to if I'm going from Movie studio 13.0? Is there a vegas option out there that is similar in layout. I am really fresh and familiar with my current editing and just want more transitions and some cooler new features... Thx

[@TechDiveAVCLUB]

So sorry that happened. I was told they will issue a refund if you tell them you expected a vegas product. Vegas Pro 19 is the way to go. I've got videos all about pro and you can download a free trial

[@BubCityHoodRides]

So what's a better alernative that does not crash? I'm still running movie studio platinum I purchased like 2 yrs ago and I upgraded to windows 11. This was my entry into video editing as well.

[@davenobleswimmer7235]

Clearifying Do you know how to do a snapshot picture inside of Maxis Movie Studio 18 Platinum

[@davenobleswimmer7235]

Do you know how to do a snapshot picture inside of Movie Studio 18?

[@musikanocopyrightmusic3839]

I have Movie ßStudio 17 and it shows me always upgrade to Pro for 99 € is it so much better that it makes sense?

[@TechDiveAVCLUB]

So, while movie studio was an option as a vegas entrypoint, I would have only suggested the upgrade if you needed more tools. There's certainly a lot more functinality to pro, that to a professional editor is certianlly worth it. When it's time to upgrade, I do recomend going to vegas pro, but I know it doesn't hit the premium price to proformance ration movie studio did.

[@MarkDaGardna]

I can't get any version of Movie Studio to work anymore... Any Clue What That is all about?

[@djsherz]

What a mess! I've been using MS15 for years. I briefly upgraded to MS16, but never got on with it - didn't like the storyboard importing thing, and it kept freezing up on me, so went back to 15. Just out of curiosity this evening I downloaded a trial of Movie Studio 2022, and now they've REALLY messed it up. Couldn't find any of the stuff I was looking for - where's the media bins? How do you view the audio waveforms for video tracks on the timeline? All basic stuff that we all need, and if it's still there it's well hidden away. Looks like I'll be relying on good ol' Movie Studio 15 for a few years yet.

[@jkerman45]

I went through this several months ago, ended up finding the old build on a Vegas user group. Now that Windows 10 is in version 21H2, which broke a couple of other programs, Movie Studio 17 Platinum isn’t loading any files. Crap. If I’m going to have to learn a new interface, it will NOT be anything sold by Magix.

[@dshaynietheawesome]

I've been using platinum 14 since 2017 and I thought it was probably time to upgrade and I almost got 18 before watching this and realising its not the same software what a close call Is there a way I can get 17 instead or am I just screwed for good?

[@rs4425]

Same here.. do we stick with Movie Studio Platinum? or will it change? Confusing to amateur.

[@Selepri]

Movie studio 17 is not opening on my laptop. I have an alienware computer and Even when I run the software as administrator, it won't open. I literally just finished the project a few weeks ago. Can you tell me what's going on?

[@choppergirl]

I have Movie Studio 15 on one Windows 7 computer, I need it on some other faster computers. I noticed Movie Studio 17 is still for sale on Amazon and Steam. I'm thinking I should grab a few copies while I still can, but it says Windows 10 as a System Requirement. Do you know why? Do you think it would work under Windows 7? I'm thinking I buy the Steam version, install it, and if it don't work, I've got like 14 days to get my money back as per Steam policies. Also, every video file I've created has bein in Sony Vegas 9 or mostly, Movie Studio 16.. and the file formats are not compatible. That's ok, my very old stuff was in Vegas 9 and is irrelevant. But if someday I was to jump over to Sony Vegas Professional, would it even be able to open and use the Sony Movie Studio 16 file formats. By differentiating and coming out with too high of a price tag, Vegas has created a clusterfwck. I don't need all the advanced features of Vegas... in fact, I prefer Movie Studio.

[@bobwalden1575]

I currently have VMS 17 Platinum build 223. Is that the last version? Should I stick with it? Can't find a discount coupon to upgrade to Vegas Pro. I mainly work o old videos that need color correction and trimming out bad parts. Should I stick with what I have or go to Vegas Pro?

[@TechDiveAVCLUB]

Vegas pro has pro res as an intermediate code and more tools for that like scopes. But if you're happy there's no reason to move yet. If you select upgrade on check out instead of buy, I think that's your coupon

[@bobwalden1575]

@@TechDiveAVCLUB The upgrade message came up when I opened Movie Studio. I, like a dummy just clicked on it. Haven't used Movie Studio in a while so hadn't heard of the situation. So was wondering if I'm the proud new owner of something I wouldn't have upgraded to and was charged for a new program automatically. As I just saw a new build number I didn't think about it until read several questions on the upgrade.

[@musikanocopyrightmusic3839]

Do you know how I can use "green screen" in movie studio 17. My Problem is I have 2 Clips - one in front of green screen and a second one. I want the second one as background but it is always in front and not in the background, What I am doing wrong?

[@TechDiveAVCLUB]

This should help! kzbin.info/www/bejne/d3iagoqjjZdrjdE

[@oo0Spyder0oo]

Ok what’s the option to stop key frames being created when you use the pan & crop window to zoom in/out again? Don’t want any key frame to appear, I know I’ve done this before but can’t think what it was.

[@TechDiveAVCLUB]

There's a syc cursor button right next to the keyframe timeline in the breakout window. I completely understand, I use this all the time. Sometimes having it on is awesome, and sometimes having it on is aweful.

[@oo0Spyder0oo]

@@TechDiveAVCLUB yeah that's what I thought I had on before but all that's doing is moving the main timeline pointer when I move inside the pan and crop and vice versa. It still makes a keyframe whenever I rotate or adjust the scale of an image or video. I l know I've turned this off before but can't see where it is.

[@TechDiveAVCLUB]

Ohhhh i just make sure the first key frame is selected

[@oo0Spyder0oo]

@@TechDiveAVCLUB yeah I used to do that but sometimes you're part way along the time line and just want to resize something etc and whatever it was I changed it would stop the annoying key frame from being added (and therefore an animation as it scales to that point). But I can't see where that option is, I looked over some of your videos to see if you had covered this, can't find where I got it from. No worries, I'll stumble across it sometime, I'll post it here when I find it!

[@oo0Spyder0oo]

@@TechDiveAVCLUB Well looks like I must have dreamed about that option because I don't see how I could have enabled it. Insert twilight zone music here.

[@marilyn.g]

I'm currently using movie studio 16 platinum and it doesn't let me render more than 29%. It's telling me to upgrade to Magix Movie Studio 2023 suite. Would you recommend that program? Or should I just get vegas pro?

[@mikeispace9883]

CapCup Pro vs VEGAS Pro 22? which one is better?

[@Dogasaurus]

Plenty of Vegas MS 17 , download & box, still out there. Will Magix allow me to register/use if I buy it (V MS 17) , rather than Magix MS 2022 ? I understand there will be no future updates/support, but will a downloaded Vegas MS 17 still work on Windows 10- drivers, etc ?

[@acapellaheaven9069]

Apologies if this is a stupid question. (I've been a MS user for years, and in the light of your comments am considering moving to Vegas Pro.) Does Vegas Pro open Movie Studio documents?

[@Reyfox1]

Yes, it should if you have the same effects as in Pro.

[@TechDiveAVCLUB]

Not a stupid question at all. It opens up movie studio projects just fine! I've done that many times.

[@TechDiveAVCLUB]

@@Reyfox1 Yeah, that's a good point. It will open up the project just fine, but if you have plug ins that the project is using in movie studio that you don't have installed for pro it may run into an issue. other than that, it should be really smooth.

[@acapellaheaven9069]

@@TechDiveAVCLUB Many thanks for your reply.

[@ProckGnosis]

F me...that explains why when I finally caved, upgraded my Vegas Movie Studio 14, and installed it, it opened with an entirely different user interface. I just assumed they had totally revamped the UI, not stealthily replaced the actual software. Have no interest in re-learning a basic video editing package. Might as well upgrade to Vegas Pro. Damn, that pisses me off. Thanks much for the scoop though...I very much appreciate you taking the time to share some of the background.

[@BrettEvan]

New user here. I see 3 versions now under vegascreativesoftware. Do you recomend them still? And will cheapest Vegas edit 365 allow me to export loseless 4k to my pc not just sociel media? Id appreciete the help.

[@TechDiveAVCLUB]

Absolutely and yes and yes!

[@LiliWhiteWorld]

I just bought and installed Movie Studio platinum 2022. I had MS platinum 14 and it was great, but could not find a way to install it on my new computer (I have the serial numbers, and proof of purchase). Is there a way I can upgrade to Vegas pro with the deal you mentioned?

[@stitchunderground626]

My friend has a problem with movie studio and i was wondering if you could help him?

[@williambrown2583]

Just trying to get into video editing. What do you recommend.

[@TechDiveAVCLUB]

sub to Vegas Pro Edit 365. Or better yet, download the free trial! There's an outright purchase too, but it's a bit pricy. I've got lots of tutorials here about everything. There's a more guided and theory focused Udemy course in the description too.

[@bloopahVIII]

but did they have to take down every previous version of vegas on steam

[@ynyslochtyn]

Whether it's vegas or platinum the new magix movie studio absolutely stinks. It now totally UNintuitive.

[@axslinger99]

I make the mistake of upgrading Movie Studio 18. It is horrible! The interface is kludgy, hotkeys aren't intuitive and there are serious sync issues with audio/video.

[@glimmer289]

I am totally confused by this 'information' by the software and even if what I bought is any use? Tutorials and beginners guides are useless and only suitable for experts in software. I bought Movie Studio 2022 Platinum. Is there any simple to follow tutorial that is up-to-date on KZbin? Please, someone list the URL here.

[@xXMasterJ360Xx]

Im not gonna lie here I appreciate Sony Vegas for what they had for a decade of using their software back from 2010. Started out with Vegas Pro 9 despite using a toaster laptop it helped my YT channel grow. My main issue however is that they were either lazy or money grabbing slow in upgrades which added little new features or they never fixed old issues. I think Magix Finally gave us what we wanted in terms of current GPU/4K support, but it still falls short in comparison to Davinci Resolve 17

[@janieisbored]

Wait so I upgraded to Movie Studio 17 Platinum a few weeks ago, and now the program isn't going to work anymore? I'm currently reading through the forums and I'm really confused with all the different program names. Does this mean I have to upgrade again? I literally JUST bought it.

[@Reyfox1]

Uh... the program is going to work. It's not a subscription. What you have is the last version of VEGAS Movie Studio. There will be no more updates/grades to this software. What has happened is the Magix will be changing the name of there Movie Edit Pro 2021 to Movie Studio 18. An entirely different software.

[@TechDiveAVCLUB]

movie studio 17 platinum should work for years to come. There just won't be new version of movie studio directly made by the vegas team using the vegas pro engine. There's no need to make any sudden changes. Eventually, if you're ready for an upgrade, Vegas pro will be there with the same user interface you're learning now.

[@Jonathonn77]

Where is the link to buy vegas pro 19 with promo code? Noat the subscription

[@davenobleswimmer7235]

Thank you for clearing up the difference between Vegas Pro and Magix 18. I bought Magix 18 and It took me a while to figure out things that I already knew how to do. Today I found a huge bug in Magix 18. I was compressing a number of scenes to make the cars look like they were going faster. Pretty much any compression over 1.5 fails misurablly to be smooth. Even after applying smoothing the software sucks. So I went back to Studio 16 and compressed the scenes that I wanted to use. then I made an MP4 file with those scenes. Now I can bring it back into Magix 18 and stretch the scenes to become slower and they stay smooth. This is a huge issue for me. I will be looking into Vegas Pro now that I know the difference. One question Can movie files from Studio 16 & 17 be read by The latest version of Vegas Pro?

[@katarzyna_kmiecik_art]

I recently upgraded to Movie Studio 2023 Platinum prior to seeing this video... Should I start regretting this decision or the software isn't so bad after all?

[@whoknows111]

So, it appears that all versions of Vegas Pro are now subscription based? I can't see any that you can buy outright.

[@TechDiveAVCLUB]

There a drop down box to upgrade or purchase new

[@whoknows111]

@@TechDiveAVCLUB D'oh! Thanks!

[@thelostgirl101]

Can you upgrade from Vegas Movie Studio 14 to Vegas Pro?

[@TechDiveAVCLUB]

Yes kinda! It's got a discount for movie studio

[@VladoJovanovski1]

DId you get your hands on Vegas Pro 19? I can't wait to see what's new!

[@TechDiveAVCLUB]

I'm not yet aloud to talk details, but I'm excited. I can say that

[@VladoJovanovski1]

@@TechDiveAVCLUB I just bought pro 18, and a day later a get an email for 19...😂😔

[@TechDiveAVCLUB]

@@VladoJovanovski1 oh no, I think thee's a generous upgrade cupon. Also, you may have bout the double pack, since they are pushing that on their website hard

[@VladoJovanovski1]

@@TechDiveAVCLUB I didn't, I upgraded from vegas 16 edit, with an upgrade discount, so no vegas 19 for me 😅

[@TechDiveAVCLUB]

@@VladoJovanovski1 ah no! A few years ago i bought unreal engine like 2 months before they made it free. Then they said anyone who bought it a month before would get a refund, but i was outside the period. Lol i know how you feel

[@aakashchrispin3749]

Damm that’s sad that movie studio is gone now. I bought movie studio 17 platinum from steam , will I be able to use the coupon to upgrade to Vegas ? Thanks for the information

[@TechDiveAVCLUB]

All i know about that is in the link i pinned

[@TechDiveAVCLUB]

Youre movie studio platinum should keep working for a quite a while, so there's no rush to upgrade

[@aakashchrispin3749]

@@TechDiveAVCLUB ya i ain't upgrading. will you do a review of the new version. Maybe there are some new changes.

[@TechDiveAVCLUB]

@@aakashchrispin3749 I will be reviewing VP19, yes!

[@sarahlowell]

Adam, so sorry to hear about your dog. I appreciate all your videos and appreciate how hard it was to do this video today.

[@TheModernHermeticist]

thanks for the heads up, very well explained.

[@richberg9671]

3:16. A little history on Vegas. Apologies if this has been covered before. As far as i know, the Vegas software was originally developed and sold by a company in Madison, Wisconsin known as Sonic Foundry. I believe they had other products as well. They were doing relatively well and their stock was valued about $75-$80 per share. I don't know what happened or why, but it started going foen sharply. It had a lot of little old ladies and little old men investment groups holding shares and they panicked snd the selloff was on. Sonic Foundry was swirling in the bowl and stock price was less than ten cents a share. Then Sony stepped in snd bought it. The price shot up to near previous levels overnight, but most of those groups were broke. Those who were willing to bet a grand on what very well could have been a loser, eon huge. I lodt track of what was going on after Sony bought them.

[@ShredderJim]

Hey Adam, just discovered your video on Vegas. I have been a long time user ( movie Studio Platinum 14) being the latest version I have. Went to Best Buy and purchased what I thought was the latest version, and wow I was surprised when I installed the software. I was like what is this? Total mis-direction with the packaging looking like it was the the original movie studio / Vegas software we all are use to using. Shame on Magix ! Luckily , I was able to return it and un-installing ......absolutely horrible ! I originally purchased it so I could upgrade and finally put it on a windows 10 machine. So here is my question and hopefully you, or someone reading the comments can help. 1.) Is it possible to get the latest version of Platinum Studio somewhere? 2.) My second question is, can you use a USB Mixer or Interface with the audio recording? I know you can use a USB microphone, I have a DAW and interface set up on my windows 10 machine. I was hoping not to have to use two separate programs for my video and audio, and Vegas has enough audio editing that for simple guitar videos I make, Vegas by itself would do the trick. Any information would be great...thanks !

[@ArtfulCosumDust]

Holy shit. I considered getting Movie Studio vs Vegas but went with Vegas since I didn't want to go through hoops upgrading software. Glad I did that.

[@TechDiveAVCLUB]

Yeah they should have left a dead period before reusing the name

[@MarkCasquero]

i just installed movie studio 18 and many functionalities are now gone like plug ins, separate audio tracks, it's like a totally new software, which is more basic. And this led me to this video. Now this explains it. I'm just gonna stick to 17 or upgrade to vegas later.

[@TechDiveAVCLUB]

If i could have, i would have personally emailed every user. .. Sorry this happened

[@MarkCasquero]

@@TechDiveAVCLUB thanks! I asked magix for a refund and they did. I'm sticking to 17 now until i really need to upgrade to Vegas pro. Thanks a lot for your video!

[@MMRails]

Thanks for this Adam. Do you think Pro needs a faster computer than Movie Studio? I probably won’t upgrade for awhile, just mentally preparing. Sorry about your pooch.

[@TechDiveAVCLUB]

Thanks, and actually no! It's gunna the same as MS17 did... Actually better since it's got a generation of iteration

[@encryptthis]

It's been a bit, but I purchased Movie Studio 18 Platinum, so what? Are we pretty much screwed, having purchased a software that will no longer be supported? Very sorry to hear about your dog. What do you suggest we do, after having purchased Movie Studio 18?

[@TechDiveAVCLUB]

Hey I've been told if you tell them you thought it wasca Vegas product you get your money back

[@setiawankartawidjaja9211]

Thanks for explaining the situation in video form.

[@TechDiveAVCLUB]

Thanks for the support!

[@AuggieX1]

Basically -- what you are saying is ---> start using Vegas Pro instead of Movie Studio? Correct? Would VP being able to still work with my videos made by MS? Thank You!!

[@TechDiveAVCLUB]

Yes, changing the file extension to match makes it open in Vegas pro I'd say 99% works perfectly maybe 100%

[@AuggieX1]

@@TechDiveAVCLUB Perfect. Thank you for your expertise.

[@katarzynakmiecik4587]

​@@TechDiveAVCLUBis there an option to upgrade to Vegas Pro at a discouted price?

[@earljmaui_boy2546]

Aloha Adam... I was expecting it for a couple years for the lack of coverage by Vegas... I have owned a version of Vegas since v. 4.0... and would normally skip a generation and upgrade to every even version and skip the odd versions... I'm now on Vegas PRO v. 18... * * * I came over from the old Casablanca hardware video editing from another German video company... buying a new computer when a new version comes out grew old very fast. Vegas was a grand software package back then and I created many a DVD project with it through the years. * * * Thanks for the update... and the encouragement ... I agreed... keep the faith... your Vegas video editor will work faithfully for years before an upgrade is necessary... I've lived it. * * * I just came to visit your Star Wars crawling text tutorial... one of my specialty VFX companies had one with no control over the line breaks... not fun. I thought Vegas would have a way to create it... and you demonstrated it quite well. Good job, Adam. * * * I'm really saddened about the dog... we've had dogs in the house almost my entire adult life and know how difficult it is to endure such a loss. Our prayers are with you. * * * Until that time...

[@TechDiveAVCLUB]

Thanks, it was my wife's childhood dog so it hit her the worst. Thanks for tuning in, I'm so glad it was helpful to you!

[@Jaake-my2rq]

Good information. I want to like Vegas Pro but it's so counterintuitive compared to what I started with and still use, that even trying to create a starting point template has been a major clock-eater that ultimately produces no workable end result. In my current program, you hit "record" and the capture window comes up complete with real time preview choices for resolution, fps, aspect ratio, codec, and file type to be produced once you stop the recording process. It also allows you to fine tune your camera angle and the whole set of visual tweaks as well as all audio routing BEFORE you commit precious time recording your takes. And while Vegas has a better set of audio VST plugins, I can unlink the audio file from the video in my old program, create a copy, and run that copy through Studio One 6 Pro and apply the best plugins from any audio company in the business. It's a frustrating situation.

[@AnonYoBizness]

I had movie studio 2019 i think, it stopped working out of nowhere, then the suggestion they had on forums messed with my PC now i cannot delete it LOL and i gave up on them. i was wondering if i should buy 2022 but idk if i trust Magix at this point. They have a slow and shitty help system using email.... and takes forever to respond. i say that to say is 2022 worth it?

[@trollheavendontdoit5072]

@11:14...why wouldn't you go back and take the vid down or re-edit?

[@pohlpiano]

If that means that VEGAS Pro is going to be there and keep thriving for many years to come, then it is a worthwhile sacrifice (I personally started with Movie Studio and later switched to Pro - thanks to your videos I could understand the differences and finally make the decision). Thanks for all videos, keep it up!

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[@OpenAirAdventureFirewood]

My Vegas 15 is lagging pretty bad, I deleted it and installed it again and it worked but not as good as originally. Not sure what to buy and stay low budget.

[@homeatlaska]

Omigosh, I'm so sorry about your dog! That's just so hard, all of this coming-down on you today in one day. Hang in there, my friend.

[@TechDiveAVCLUB]

it was my wife's childhood dog, so it hit her the worst.

[@JasonRasmussen]

Stated with Premiere Pro. Moved to Movie Studio when they went subscription model. Went to Vegas Pro when it was a great price on Humble Bundle and still on Vegas 15 Pro. I'll never go subscription model.

[@TechDiveAVCLUB]

Yes, I've always been super glad they Vegas has left both as open as an option. I'm just sad that movie studio is no longer an option to enter the Vegas world

[@bambinostunts6442]

Just started using movie maker about 2 months ago. Your channel has been my go to! Thanks for the info!

[@CarlosVirgilioAltOficial]

Last build of Movie Studio 17.0 Platinum Build 223 and Movie Studio 17.0 Build 178

[@Dreamsofwings]

So glad I found this video. Thanks so much for making it. Was close to ‘upgrading’ to Movie Studio 18. Tempted to switch to pro now.

[@TechDiveAVCLUB]

Pro is great! Glad i could help

[@novelist1985]

Well Crikey! I had filled out my CC data, was about to hit the purchase button, and thought--- well, let me just look to make sure it has this one specific feature. Glad you posted this, I would not have been pleased. Albeit, I'm still displeased, because I was looking forward to 1/8th slowmo (finally an easy way to edit 240FPS GoPro) and 8K support (will be nabbing an R5 soon). Definitely don't want to pay $450 for Vegas Pro (I'm too amateur). Albeit my usage of video editing software is so sporadic that I'm not sure I want to subscribe to get Premiere, either. Maybe I'll just bite the bullet and learn the new GUI of "Movie Studio". Hmmmm...

[@TechDiveAVCLUB]

if you're thinking of subscribing for premier, you can get VEGAS post for way cheaper (Veags Pro, Vegas image, and Vegas Effects! But I'm super glad you checked this out too.

[@HeShoeTooBig]

So, question, there's now Movie Studio 2023, did something change after this video?

[@JD-Media]

Nooooo!!!! ...Guess Vegas Pro it is.

[@robertlyle3806]

I want to hire you. I own Movie Studio 17.0. I'm a musician attempting to create a music video. I need to learn how to do cropping in 3 or 4 places in my video. I also need to understand how to do fade ins and fade outs. Would you be interested in that work? If yes ... what is the best way to connect. Thanks, Bob

[@marksaustralia6464]

Thanks so much! Great work that you do. I'll also feel sorry for scrapyard films, who has invested heavily in MSP. The company really should reward some channels, for all the work you've done to promote their product, and for the 'free' training you've given for them.

[@TechDiveAVCLUB]

They work with us in a few ways. Josh has good stuff!

[@choppergirl]

Still rendering in Movie Studio 16... August 2023! Now on a Ryzen 7950x 128gb GeF3070... from an FX-8350 32gb GeF 1080. My first two vids on the new machine: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rH-bgX13g52dqpo kzbin.info/www/bejne/aKOkYmeentNjqqc

[@Vector_Ze]

Although I haven't used it in years, I had Movie Studio Platinum 9.0b, and It installs without issue on Windows 7 64-bit. But, in typical Sony style, they abandoned the plugin Cinescore Studio, which was GREAT. I still have the installer, but haven't tried it with more current versions of Windows. I am currently using (the less expensive) PowerDirector v15. I bought v16, but didn't like it as much. And, I absolutely avoid cloud based and subscription software from any provider. Subscription software is a sweetheart deal, for the providers, not the consumers! I have audio and video editing software that's 10+ years old and still works as intended, doing everything I need them to do. Subscription really gets my goat. It's as though I bought a nice new camera, but have to pay monthly/annually in order to keep using it. In fact, that's a primary reason that my OS is Win7 64-bit. My old software is incompatible, cost a small fortune, and I'm still waiting for Microsoft to release a better OS than Win7.

[@ashlingley6569]

unfortunately i did not see this. spent $50 thinking i was getting a vegas software but ig thats on me for not researching enough. trying to get into contact with them to get my money back. i love this so much

[@logunsrun5]

Why would you want to use Movie Studio when you can use Vegas Pro instead? Movie Studio is just a broke down version of Vegas Pro anyway.

[@SpaceCliffie]

So sorry about your dog Adam 😢 Damn this news hits like a ton of bricks. Hang in there!

[@roncenti]

The link thing sucks. I get it. And all the new users will be confused as hell. It was always weird to have 2 almost identical versions of a software. And I can imagine that updating 2 versions that might have slight differences is a huge pain. makes sense. BUT to sneak in a different software under the name of the old one is wrong. They could have named it differently. This feels like cheating. It feels wrong. Maybe there is a bright side for a little while and they offer an even cheaper upgrade to pro or the whole suite. Question: Is Vegas Pro Suite worth it? I have Vegas Pro Edit and did not go for the suite and get upgrade offers all the time. I can not find any valuable reviews of the content of Suite. Is this worth it? I have photoshop at the moment but depending on my job, it could go away and I can not afford $25/month or what it is by myself. Sorry for your dog. Not a good day for you. I feel you.

[@TechDiveAVCLUB]

Thank for your condolences. I really hate the way this was handled, and There are people in both branches Vegas and Magix that feel the same way. I hope they will make this right. It's already confusing enough for people before this happened. I think the transition would have been smooth and better for the company overall if there was better communication and a slower change. I'd say vegas pro edit is all you need, but VEGAS POST is worth eyeballing if you do special effects and photoediting. Otherwise, vegeas pro edit is plenty.

[@earljmaui_boy2546]

@ roncenti... IF you're hung up on PS, look at Affinity Photo... I retired from a job a few years back using Adobe Products on a daily basis, and moved to the one-time purchase of Affinity products... less than $200 USD for Photo (still images), Publisher (a great InDesign replacement), and Designer (good for creating vector graphics)... NO subscriptions, PERIOD. (grin) * * * Check out Affinity Revolution on KZbin and see IF it might solve your issues about converting to something outside Adobe...(wink) * * * Until that time. . .

[@simplyrufa]

I got 18 the other day.. dont waste your money...

[@Mr_Mirv]

Sorry to hear about your dog. My condolences.

[@TechDiveAVCLUB]

thanks! it was my wife's childhood dog, so it wasn't fun.

[@Reyfox1]

Thanks. I am sure many will still be wondering what happened with VMS. You have your work cut out for you. The question is..... are you going to be doing videos on Movie Studio 18?

[@TechDiveAVCLUB]

Thanks for all your help. No i don't have time to learn and teach more than i already do.

[@Reyfox1]

@@TechDiveAVCLUB no problem helping! Maybe when the smoke has cleared in a few days, you will maybe reconsider?

[@TechDiveAVCLUB]

Maybe!

[@Mr.Riojas]

Worst part is they still stick Movie Studio under the Vegas line of video editing software. Sadly, made the mistake of buying it thinking it was vegas (used to use Acid when it was created by Sonic Foundry and later Vegas Movie Studio under Sony as the UI was essentially the same). UI for their current Movie Studio is completely alien - alien as in another planet.

[@TechDiveAVCLUB]

You can get a refund if you tell them you thought it was Vegas based when you bought it

[@Mr.Riojas]

@@TechDiveAVCLUB Working on that, in fact. :)

[@malcolmlyndsell5009]

its a familiar story for many apps, They abandon them leaving users to pick up the pieces

[@guudodyoproductions9622]

Yeah I purchased it about a month ago, have not touched it since. Its terrible its a whole new learning curve smh

[@RavenwoodAcres]

My Movie Studio 16 last update was trash and crashed constantly, So I decided to update to 2022 and I really regret that decision.

[@TechDiveAVCLUB]

You can get a refund if you tell them you thought it was Vegas based when you bought it

[@IMProductionsintl]

I had no idea that it was going to be like that! I was thinking about buying it! I have Movie Studio 16 & 17 Platinum. I also have Vegas Pro 17 but it freezes up every time I open it, so I guess that I will have to buy a new PC so I can stat in the Vegas family.

[@TechDiveAVCLUB]

it might just be a bad install of Vegas Pro. I'm glad you watched the video first! They've since sent out 2 emails and updated the website with a better explination, but it's still hard to wrap your head around the change.

[@ObsidianHawk]

I wish I had seen this before i purchased movie studio 18. It has 0 functionality compared to previous versions.

[@speedbag1]

Thanks for the info. I did buy the Movie Studio 18 upgrade but have not installed yet. Looks like from this (and other reviews) I won't bother. #13-to-#17 worked fine for me. I'll just keep my 17 version and be happy. for now.

[@BrownGaijin]

I think I lucked out. I have no experience with Movie Studio so I shouldn't have trouble getting confused. Thanks for the heads up. Sorry about your dog. RIP.

[@choppergirl]

I know my Movie Studio 16 can't open my Sony Vegas 9 files... so... this is very prblematic jumping back and forth to them... sounds like I'm stuck in 16 forever... and ever.. and ever

[@alessandrobrichetto222]

Downloaded the trial version of MS18, it looks terribly like the Magix video deluxe software which i tried few times for my family movies in the past years but never liked. It was a sort of childish stuff, slow and heavy. Started with Movie Studio 9 many years ago and pretty sure will stay with 17 till i find a good chance to upgrade to Vegas pro.

[@TechDiveAVCLUB]

vegas pro just dropped it's pricing a lot too to make the jump for Movie Studio peeps not as hard. But MS 17 is a good edition, so I think you can ride that a while!

[@alessandrobrichetto222]

@@TechDiveAVCLUB thanks, think will stay with it, Movie Studio was and still is the ideal compromise for my needs. Will keep on enjoying your beautiful and exhaustive tutorials! thanks a lot

[@TechDiveAVCLUB]

@@alessandrobrichetto222 Thanks

[@Gusseq81]

This breaks my heart! I have been a Vegas software user for years and I found Movie Studio as a very helpful video editing tool after having Vegas Pro 10 for "decades" (believe it or not). I was thinking to upgrade to MS 18 but now that I know this I will be considering the Vegas Pro version instead. Thanks for the info.

[@choppergirl]

I bought more copies at a bargain based prices ($2o each). I've got 3 licenses now good for 6 installs. Plan to keep using it forever. Movie Studio 17, 18, and later (2023 rubbish) do not run on Windows 7, so it's Movie Studio 16 forever. And here's the thing, you can't jump ship to Vegas Pro, because it doesn't use the same save file format. Movie Studio uses .vf files, and Vegas Pro uses .veg. Good job Sony Vegas Team. Almost all of us are orphaned and abandoned. My choices for a PC upgrade are driven by what I can still get Windows 7 to run on and Vegas 16. If you're wonder why, all you have to do is search for "Windows 11 sucks"

[@giangiuseppemastrantonio9083]

Thank you for your suggestion. I avoided updating MovieStudio and taking advantage of the 60% savings offered I bought Vega Pro 19.0

[@xrarelightx]

Must be why my Movie Studio Platinum 17 keeps crashing. I've tried all the fixes and have a good gaming computer with lots of space and ram. I've come to the conclusion that the software isn't great anymore. I bought it last year so I doubt there's a refund or whatever for the 17.

[@choppergirl]

think I'm going to have to dump this platform because the latest versions don't support Windows 7. Does anybody know the last good version of Movie Studio that supports Windows 7?

[@SirWolf2018]

They lied to us customers. They sell an upgrade that is NOT at all an upgrade. They don't deserve my money.

[@babyspine]

uhhhh I just bought movie studio plat 2022 from magix and it is nothing like vegas pro at all, it's like new software I never seen before....wish I had seen this video first before I watched your older ones recommending it

[@TechDiveAVCLUB]

If you tell them you bought the software thinking it was a Vegas product you'll get a refund

[@StarChaserRanch]

I was had..... I tried updating from 11 and I don't know there was a difference. I HATE THE 18. Complete waste of money. I am so upset.

[@TechDiveAVCLUB]

They are giving refunds to those who didn't know (everybody)

[@StarChaserRanch]

@@TechDiveAVCLUB Do you know how to get in touch with them? There is no phone number or email or customer service link on the website.

[@TechDiveAVCLUB]

@@StarChaserRanch There's a support email on their website, I can't tell you where of the top of my head sorry

[@StarChaserRanch]

@@TechDiveAVCLUB Thank you. I found a chat and have a ticket submitted.

[@volshebny]

This is what happens when after a process of M&A (mergers and acquisitions) you allow companies to monopolize their respective industries/markets. Eliminate competition and companies start behaving this way. The reason people go into business is because they identify a need within their community and they think they can fill that need better than existing competitors. Buy up all the Mom & Pops and all you have left is a bunch of mega-corporations who lose connection with their communities and feel the customers NEED them more than they need their customers. Monopolies are bad.

[@linads9142]

Good thing I downloaded the trial version of Movie Studio 18 before upgrading. I don't like the new software. They should have just stopped making new versions, this move of theirs looks a little bit deceiving and confusing. Maybe I'll upgrade to Pro later, but as for now Movie Studio 17 has all that I need. Thank yo so much for your tutorials, they are really helpful.

[@TechDiveAVCLUB]

So glad you took the trial first! Yes exacly, I think pro will be a good fit for all the movie studio users, but there's no need to make any changes until you feel it's time for the upgrade. Thanks for wathcing.

[@notfrost5648]

I honestly first want to know what Movie studio 18 even looks like. I honestly don’t even know if it’s actually still good despite it’s different than how it was or should be. Can you make a video about what Movie studio 18 looks like despite it isn’t the same as 17?

[@TechDiveAVCLUB]

Right now, i recommend downloading the free trial if you are curious. I don't know if i will have the time to cover a whole new software. Some people think it's a good fit, while most are upping to VEGAS pro

[@BENZ007]

I have it, it looks nothign at all like it, because it is a new version of an editing software, terrible so far.

[@choppergirl]

Weird, I'm still using 16 in 2023 in Windows 7 of course. MAGIX needs to get there SH1t goether, their community forum has never been functional to create a login account for as long as I cna remember, and there's no email to email them and tell them... hey... nobody can log in to your forum for any support or anything at all.