Funniest part was Goku just straight up agreeing with Vegeta. No excuses, no defense, just "yeah he got lazy and sucks now."
@sadriddances45783 жыл бұрын
goku has always been straight up about things tho, he always speaks the truth of the situation
@JarelJay2 жыл бұрын
@@sadriddances4578 I'd rather him be real with me than just sugarcoat and lie to my face
@Cloud-dt6xb2 жыл бұрын
Sure but Goku's handles it better where it's like yeah Gohan clearly slacked off and we need to have a talk, but pressuring and guilting him isn't going to make it better.
@Cloud-dt6xb2 жыл бұрын
@Dylan Ogega Dude that's exactly what he did, saying stuff like oh now it's your fault your friends are going to remain statues and stuff. Again yeah Gohan's slacking off is an issue but they had two combat ready sayians there to back him up so going that hard on him about it is just too harsh. Goku knew they could still beat dabara and then he'd just talk to Gohan later about how he needs to start training seriously again.
@sadriddances45782 жыл бұрын
@@Cloud-dt6xb Vegeta definitely was putting pressuring gohan to make him feel bad and realize he would have easily beat him if he keep on training but goku would have handled the situation much better because it wasn’t like they couldn’t beat daubra
@paladin80523 жыл бұрын
Even when the Saiyan population was 8 he still took his job as prince seriously
@NonStopKnocks3 жыл бұрын
Not really.
@patriceupnext28412 жыл бұрын
@@NonStopKnocks yes really
@baneous182 жыл бұрын
Goku Gohan Goten Vegeta Trunks Broly and his father Tarble (Vegeta's brother) I think these are all the saiyans that are alive at the buu's saga
@zekromtrainer12222 жыл бұрын
@@baneous18 yup 8 Saiyans i counted
@renegade31692 жыл бұрын
@@NonStopKnocks shut up
@RP-zl5ix3 жыл бұрын
2 interesting things: Vegeta takes his responsibility as a prince extremely seriously and tries to bring out the best of other Saiyans. Goku always shuts up whenever Vegeta makes these kinds of talks
@me-hc4bv3 жыл бұрын
If a saiyan comrade fights badly, he gets angry. Sometimes even to the point of killing them (like Nappa)
@kauecampos87563 жыл бұрын
Its because Goku is thinking about dinner
@Automatic133 жыл бұрын
These little nuances really make the show pop for me.
@shadowofthenorthstar9893 жыл бұрын
Goku didnt say shit cause he knew he was right
@tzu42853 жыл бұрын
yup , as a prince , he always tries to bring out the best of other saiyans , just like what he did to nappa
@remington_acr16512 жыл бұрын
Vegeta is the best example of the quote “It is better to be a warrior in a garden than a gardener in a war”.
@REVOMusicSounds2 жыл бұрын
Shut up
@DeathKnight56082 жыл бұрын
@@REVOMusicSounds What the hell is your damage?
@REVOMusicSounds2 жыл бұрын
@@DeathKnight5608 over 9k.
@fearlesscheshirecat14112 жыл бұрын
@@DeathKnight5608 He’s one of those flowers in the garden…..he’s offended
@awsomeman2532 жыл бұрын
Both are needed though. Without the gardener you don't have food to feed the people, without the warriors you don't have protection. Sure you can teach the warriors how to garden, but you can also teach gardeners how to fight. Best to be both imo
@ethanmcmaster29942 жыл бұрын
"Two of your friends' lives were in the balance... and you crumbled." What an evolution of character Vegeta has gone through.
@sasuke0825942 жыл бұрын
You should read Super past the ToP, he’s like the main character now
@hiddenexperiment6052 жыл бұрын
@@sasuke082594 and it's pure garbage..Toriyama and toyotaro don't know what to do with the series,The arcs in Super are basically structure like bad transformer movies but with them hyping up Vegita for him to get robbed of victory.
@ReapersLove692 жыл бұрын
@@hiddenexperiment605 i actually really like where things are going post ToP
@superexclusive452 Жыл бұрын
@@hiddenexperiment605so it’s garbage because Vegeta doesn’t win? Y’all just don’t care for the story being told, only the fights
@OniContraverum Жыл бұрын
@@hiddenexperiment605mf really said the Granola arc was like a transformer movie💀🤡🗿
@SuperJutah4 жыл бұрын
Vegeta saying Gohan fought as a Toddler is technically correct as he saw Gohan aged 6 give Freiza hands and as a 11 year old defeat Cell and is now out of breath struggling against Dabura!!!!
@johangodojolo86524 жыл бұрын
Dabura is far stronger than Frieza and as strong as Perfect Cell (so yeah teen Gohan would have wrecked him).
@XxInfinityxXTimer3 жыл бұрын
@@johangodojolo8652 the power gap between him and dabura aren't that big compare to that time gohan combo frieza
@c.clasher3 жыл бұрын
Actually I think Gohan was 5 years old when he faced Frieza if you think about, but your right though he was 11 when he defeated Perfect Cell
@smurfyx3 жыл бұрын
Hell when Gohan was just barely walking around he nearly killed Nappa and Vegeta himself
@SuperJutah3 жыл бұрын
@@smurfyx Its embarrassing that I don’t think Great Saiyaman Gohan could take 6 year old Namek saga Gohan… I know he’s more powerful but kid Gohan has heart and fearlessness!
@nxrth94633 жыл бұрын
Vegeta is like an uncle giving tough love to his nephew cuz he knows he can do better.
@NuII-v8n3 жыл бұрын
I wish he would've walked up to Gohan and Knee him in the gut like he did on planet namek LOL.
@sparxx95373 жыл бұрын
@@NuII-v8n and to cabba years later lol. And when Future Trunks pushed the Goku button.
@l0rdapophis3 жыл бұрын
I mean...Piccolo basically abused him as a toddler until he learned, so I support Vegeta doing it now as a teenager lol he was such a letdown
@91Definite2 жыл бұрын
@@NuII-v8n nah that wasn’t right at all. He could’ve done that when when he was with Daburs
@gilbertohernandez74812 жыл бұрын
Couldn’t have said better. I am Gohan and Goku is my dad
@benjackson78725 жыл бұрын
Even though he was harsh, Vegeta did have a point: Gohan should’ve killed Dabura when he had the chance.
@donathan29335 жыл бұрын
See Vegeta means well
@abduljah93554 жыл бұрын
@Arache Bailey he does the same thing to Super Buu later
@mechasandwich56343 жыл бұрын
Harsh doesn't exist when Vegeta is around.
@benjackson78723 жыл бұрын
@@mechasandwich5634 I disagree
@mechasandwich56343 жыл бұрын
@@benjackson7872 Ah well...we got some opinions then. It's cool tho.
@doodguy122 жыл бұрын
“Every time you throw down the gauntlet, you represent the Saiyan race.” This goes to show how serious Vegeta is in his pride towards his own race. Especially a race where combat strength is priority. I can understand Vegeta’s disappointment when he watches Gohan fight. It’s like being the number one team in a sport worldwide where everyone on the team is extremely good and then you have one guy who just sucks but is still on your team for the world to see.
@jeffreyali14562 жыл бұрын
He doesn’t care about the Saiyan race though, he just cares about his friends and family
@thaddeusgreen64902 жыл бұрын
@@jeffreyali1456 wrong, he cares about U6 Saiyan's
@jeffreyali14562 жыл бұрын
@@thaddeusgreen6490 his own Saiyan’s sure but the entire race itself and their pride and honor is really not what he cares about
@heroe14862 жыл бұрын
He seems proud about his race but killed Nappa, one of the 2 last pure blood Sayans and was about to kill Goku + never wished his planet or other Sayans back to Shenron
@melindacadarette34472 жыл бұрын
@@heroe1486 Vegeta never liked Nappa and Vegeta was angry when Goku turned down the offer to joined him. And Shenron don't have the power to resurrect a people that died ages ago.
@filirican289 ай бұрын
Goku literally has a halo on his head because Gohan couldn't finish the job
@FatJoesSonАй бұрын
I don’t think that’s why he had a halo. Isn’t it because Goku couldn’t finish the job?
@B.I.L.L.Y.B.U.T.C.H.E.RАй бұрын
@@FatJoesSonno. Goku came back for one day.
@denniseggert211Ай бұрын
@@FatJoesSon No Goku wears the halo because Gohan toyed to much around with Cell beating him around instead of going for the kill, which lead Cell to blow himself up instead.
@Alran1098 күн бұрын
@@FatJoesSon To be fair, Goku literally chose to die when he didn't have to. If he had just used instant transmission to King Kai's planet, grabbed King Kai, Bubbles and Gregory and used instant transmission again then they could have gotten off in time. Instead he nonchalantly teleports there and even has a quick conversation with King Kai before Cell explodes.
@faiqmid6 сағат бұрын
@@Alran109 In the manga, the explosion goes off as soon as goku arrives
@ashleynash28975 жыл бұрын
Well vegeta is right, he watch gohan grew up only to see him turn weak
@cyclops82384 жыл бұрын
Honestly Vegeta sounds more disappointing than angry considering that there aren’t that many seconds left anymore so he wants the ones that you remain to turn out to be great respected warriors. And as much as he would hate to admit it if it wasn’t for Goku he probably would’ve stopped trying to achieve power long ago
@alpha1k.3 жыл бұрын
sadly
@msarilyn76773 жыл бұрын
He has power but refuses to use it, so silly.
@Zulfar-bd9tc3 жыл бұрын
@@cyclops8238 Seconds??????
@unknownuser46042 жыл бұрын
@@Zulfar-bd9tc he meant sayains
@Soniman0014 жыл бұрын
I think Vegeta has respect for Gohan so he gets angry when he's not living up to his full potential. That moment of Gohan not doing what needs to be done could've been great development but as usually with the buu saga it ends up amounting to nothing. Such a shame
@jadude1194 жыл бұрын
Toonimation But did it matter tho? And at the point of time before he had his mystic form unlocked Veggie was right
@AwankO3 жыл бұрын
@@jadude119 Gohan would have been so strong if he had trained even 20% of that 7 year time period, that by the time he unlocked Mystic form, he would have been too powerful for anyone until DBS rolled around.
@knightkid12353 жыл бұрын
You know if you think about it, if the Saiyan race were still alive (as in if they weren’t driven to extinction by Frieza) during the Saiyan Saga then I bet Gohan would’ve been considered an elite Saiyan just because of his potential alone especially since his battle power was really high for a kid
@derianvandalsen3 жыл бұрын
Gohan was intended to take the lead, but unfortunately Goku-merch still sold quite well so they reconsidered
@Hibernial3 жыл бұрын
@@AwankO I always understood Gohan’s mystic form to tap into all the untapped potential he missed out on cultivating throughout all the years he didn’t train. So maybe his energy and physique adjusted through the mystic transformation, but his mentality sure didn’t. He made the same mistake he did against Cell by being too haughty.
@cap_Tiwariji4 жыл бұрын
Everyone is gohan's dad except Goku
@glowinthedark90824 жыл бұрын
Lol. Best comment I saw in db fandom
@jamesrich68153 жыл бұрын
Just Shut Up That Meme Is Just Annoying Now You Bored Little Kids
@ok61143 жыл бұрын
@@jamesrich6815 then fuck off
@lukehart15003 жыл бұрын
What?? Most people are softies..
@lordbeerus33833 жыл бұрын
@@jamesrich6815 At this point its not a meme it's a fact. Lol.
@JuanLopez-lp8ig2 жыл бұрын
This reminds me of the phrase "It takes a village to raise a child" all the older Z warriors did their part to raise Gohan, even Goku helped once or twice
@erkintiko51322 жыл бұрын
Even Goku 😂😂
@Alejandro_C622 жыл бұрын
😂 💀
@christopherjohnson36542 жыл бұрын
Bro this comment killed me 🤣🪦
@bang.marcel02 жыл бұрын
Bro 😂😂😂😂
@steffondoyle80712 жыл бұрын
And yet, he still ain’t fully matured.😂
@KnightTimeLuigi132 жыл бұрын
"The boy has great power, but not the fighting experience." -Vegeta
@treehugger36158 ай бұрын
That was intended so when Gohan gets to make a comeback it would be even more epic. Toriyama must have already planned his development into Ultimate Gohan beforehand. Not just physically but in character as well. Gohan in high school looked like a skinny nerd, while Ultimate Gohan looks like chad. Imagine him arriving to the prom like that all buffed up, Videl must have felt she hit the jackpot. Too bad all that got thrown out at the end, for Goku and Vegeta to come to save the day.
@straze9053 ай бұрын
That's fucking funny because here he is 16yo, and he is very experienced if you think about it. Bro fought Nappa, Vegeta, Some randoms Frieza soldiers, Guldo, Recoome and Frieza 2nd Form and he was just 5 💀💀💀 What he was lacking against Dabura is clearly training and not experience
@TDKiller4153 жыл бұрын
It was obvious that Vegeta's anger and disappointment stemmed from his love and admiration for Gohan like a surrogate son or nephew. If he didn't care, he'd have been completely indifferent.
@mancavegaming93213 жыл бұрын
that is very true
@MegaKhas3 жыл бұрын
Also because Gohan was the greatest Saiyan warrior at that time. Vegeta is all about pride so the greatest Saiyan warrior becoming weaker was disappointing to him.
@Small_child_punter3 жыл бұрын
Not exactly. Vegeta hasn’t been much of a father to Gohan at all. He’s disappointed in the squandering of gohans potential.
@TDKiller4153 жыл бұрын
@@Small_child_punter I said surrogate son or nephew. Its obvious he cares a lot about Gohan, or he wouldn't be so angry at him. Its called tough love.
@Small_child_punter3 жыл бұрын
@@TDKiller415 off on this one. He doesn’t even particularly like gohan. Their relationship has never been anything resembling friendship. He’s just the greatest Saiyan who has become incredibly pathetic. Vegeta is angry at how such a great example of his peoples power is being squandered to where he can’t even defeat an easy villain.
@billie04294 жыл бұрын
Vegeta was so right about Gohan, he knew how strong he was and had the potential to be greater than any of them, but he wasted it and now his friends suffered. Remember when Vegeta wanted to be stronger than Goku but was shocked when he found out that someone was more powerful than Goku? that scene was so epic Vegeta said he doesnt want to fight anymore
@moneyworld75173 жыл бұрын
IF GOHAN WAS STILL A WARRIOR I THINK VEGETA WOULD WANT TO FIGHT GOHAN INSTEAD ESPECIALLY SINCE THAT WOULD MEAN HE WOULD BE STRONGER THAN GOKU IDK ITS A THEORY
@prvtthd4012 жыл бұрын
@@moneyworld7517 why would you write everything in caps. It adds no value, if anything it makes people take it less serious regardless of any good points you make.
@moneyworld75172 жыл бұрын
@@prvtthd401 cuz I want to and idgaf
@blackpants73852 жыл бұрын
@@moneyworld7517 Just like most people wouldn't give a fuck and try reading this eyesore
@nelsonortiz99092 жыл бұрын
He said he didn't want to fight anymore because everyone was putting their lives at risk rather than himself against cell. Not because Gohan was stronger than Goku during the cell saga. You're idiotic
@emrald99633 жыл бұрын
So instead of “Angry Vegeta” should we call him “Uncle Vegeta”.
@TDKiller4152 жыл бұрын
Thats Piccolo 😅 Gohan used to call him "oji-san" or "big green uncle". Gohan was never as close to Vegeta as he was to Piccolo, but they still grew to share a deep respect for each other. If Vegeta didn't respect or care for Gohan, he'd likely be indifferent about Gohan's power level, or maybe even happy about Gohan's power being lower than his.
@IzuMido-t1m2 жыл бұрын
@@TDKiller415 I agree!!☺️😭
@unslaadkrosis34892 жыл бұрын
Imagine if Gohan trained with Vegeta. That’d be so cool. It’d be good character development for both of them. Vegeta obviously wants Gohan to be the best version of himself. Just like his fans do.
@techh86622 жыл бұрын
Trunks trained with vegeta in the time chamber. That didnt pan out well because vegeta just ignored trunks. I'd say train with goku and get metal lesson from vegeta.
@Nintendomasterone2 жыл бұрын
He actually does in DBZ: Kakarot
@waseem71952 жыл бұрын
@@techh8662 I think Vege was a different person then. Now he'd see the value in it
@mcbdllc1362 жыл бұрын
I think he does in the video game it was intresting to see
@dankestranch87382 жыл бұрын
I wish the Buu Saga could be remade with that idea in mind lol
@TheIvoryHorn2 жыл бұрын
I love the respect, Vegeta has always given Gohan. He has always held him to the highest standard, because he believed in his ability. No one has ever gotten as much praise from Vegeta as Gohan did.
@QuanBrown272 жыл бұрын
- I disagree with the most praise part but I hear you 👍.
@TheGodfather-bm3ow2 жыл бұрын
Reading this I just picture vegeta knocking a 6 year old around after they arrived back to earth from namek lol. Yeah he really cared lol.
@kingf67662 жыл бұрын
Vegeta and Gohan is the definition of tough love. Believe it or not Vegeta always expects the best out of Gohan because he's seen it first hand how much potential Gohan has. If Goku didnt come back, Vegeta would make Gohan his next rival although he's already stronger than Gohan in the Buu Saga
@Zetho Жыл бұрын
@@TheGodfather-bm3owGohan squared up with Vegeta and was spared. He def cares
@talonapex977528 күн бұрын
@@TheGodfather-bm3ow they're saiyans. thats how they show they care.
@JarvisBaileyVA3 жыл бұрын
Vegeta saw Gohan at level higher than he or Goku could have reached when he defeated Cell. He no doubt believed that the future of the Saiyan race could have been in good hands with Gohan
@fabiantalton68883 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Gohan could’ve been levels far beyond Goku and Vegeta. So disappointing how this went for Gohan 😩
@masterkc2 жыл бұрын
It's funny, in 1 day he became past a ssj 3 level character when he became mystic. Then loses all his power in a few months when Frieza comes back. 😅
@kidasriel21292 жыл бұрын
@@masterkc literally
@z-man12374 жыл бұрын
Vegeta basically said what we all thought
@LOL_Garrus5 жыл бұрын
Uncle Vegeta is right. Gohan should step it up.
@fearlesscheshirecat14112 жыл бұрын
Vegeta’s speech stems from someone who legitimately cares about Gohan, and is both sad and frustrated to see what he’s become. When in reality he could’ve been the strongest in that room.
@justindza Жыл бұрын
He did become the strongest again momentarily in this saga.
@enterthekyuubi2 жыл бұрын
You can tell Vegeta was very passionate about Gohan, which is why he was so hard on him. He knows Gohan has immense potential, so to see him become so weak after all these years really pinched a nerve. It's like watching your favorite athlete who dominates often start playing like a rookie.
@adamsaunders79845 жыл бұрын
Vegeta gave a word of advice till this day gohan still do the same shit 😂
@KenJones30235 жыл бұрын
If Vegeta was real in person, he should be a coach in any sports and discipline any team like he's doing Gohan 1:00-1:32
@mrpikachutravel75734 жыл бұрын
He would be a badass coach for Type A
@husnainmahmood67954 жыл бұрын
The best coach ever.
@kursor524 жыл бұрын
Vegeta is the disappointed coach and Gohan is the star player who let himself go when he got to college.
@lukehart15004 жыл бұрын
@@kursor52 I feel I need a Vegeta in my life to help motivate me, even though he’s harsh, and hates soft and weak people like myself.
@ok61143 жыл бұрын
@@lukehart1500 me too bro :(
@redcriket3 жыл бұрын
Gohan really could have taken over the Dragonball legacy by defeating Buu with his father and Vegeta and we could have had a new era of Gohan as the main or maybe even his kids. Now Gohan just reflects most of our boring adulthoods wasted potential.
@marlzz923 жыл бұрын
That is painfully accurate 🤣
@cloudstrife43242 жыл бұрын
@@marlzz92 the new movies seems like it will redeem him so I have some hope, fingers crossed
@nameismissing56562 жыл бұрын
@@cloudstrife4324 lol what? By defeating 2 androids? Pretty sure both goku and vegeta can do that with super saiyan 2
@Daxinar2 жыл бұрын
@@nameismissing5656 I don't mind him not being as strong as Goku and Vegeta, I'm just glad he's getting some amount of focus. Hope the movie's good
@waseem71952 жыл бұрын
But remember that Gohan never loved fighting. Piccolo really understood him when he said that. There is no love for the thrill of battle. Gohan really was thrown into it at such a young age, he longed for the peace of an uneventful life
@bradleywashle62862 жыл бұрын
This to me is one of the greatest real shit moments. Gohan is indeed a pure hearted soul, beyond Goku and vegeta. This alone showed how it turned into ignorance. So unsure of his own power and that fighting to fight is all there is.. he didn’t learn a damn thing from what android 16 died for… He could protect everyone he cares for just by training and using the power that he Possesses inside.. as vegeta himself has said if gohan really wanted to he would be the strongest of them all. But it’s always wasted
@GojiBoiEarth1964 Жыл бұрын
Vegeta here was pretty much every DB fans reaction to him in DBS 💀
@ceny89cherny3 жыл бұрын
Jeez Vegeta respects the hell out of Gohans ability and is so disappointed in him 😂😂😂 this is great
@adad878212 жыл бұрын
the end was basically uncle vegeta
@dannyjack6592 жыл бұрын
Vegeta represents the fans. If he had stayed sharp then majin buu would have been doomed and Dabura a joke.
@yasuke6653 жыл бұрын
Uncle getes more disappointed than angry. I mean gohan was 5-6 years old and was throwing hands with him in the saiyan saga then in the freiza saga so vegeta has seen his potential first hand and he’s developed a level of high respect for gohan even if he never admits it it’s blatant cause of how he reacts in this and I think that’s good development
@p.p31522 жыл бұрын
These scenes make Vegeta’s smile when he senses Gohan’s power during his fight with Goku in super more wholesome, he’s always been the one to point out the fact that Gohan has the highest potential of any warrior they know, hopefully he can help Gohan test his new form, I would love to see Ultra Ego Vegeta fight Gohan Beast
@TheFrontManLmao2 жыл бұрын
Vegeta is right, even when Gohan was facing Cell, instead of finishing him, he decided to watch him suffer to the point where it costed Trunks and Goku’s lives.
@j.wildoutdoors84832 жыл бұрын
I loved how vegeta gave it to him. He was being a leader of his race and throughout Z and even super vegeta always shows some level of respect or expectations for gohan. Thats a fact I've really enjoyed about him. Vegeta and gohan really needed more one on one to fortify that. Makes vegeta feel more like a prince and gohan more like an actual respected warrior of the race.
@phoenixmistertwo88153 жыл бұрын
"Power is for those who can be ruthless, not bleeding hearts who shrink from dealing the final blow. Survival of the fittest, plain and simple". ~Vegeta Well, in the perspective of the battlefield, Vegeta is truly wise.
@BigZach772 жыл бұрын
Vegeta is literally around because the guy who has always been stronger than him didn't allow the finishing blow to be dealt to him. Most of Z's team is people Goku bested and did not "finish off." Also? Pretty much every villain in DBZ came to power because of him, and the fact that feeling big and bad was more important than "dealing the final blow." His son literally died in front of him by the enemy he toyed with until he was too much. Vegeta isn't wise. He's angsty and resentful, but proves, ultimately, that power without compassion does not make you a hero, nor successful.
@pzsn50752 жыл бұрын
yeah vegeta is the guy who slaps you for you to improve
@wilcee6752 жыл бұрын
@Barocrates Yeah, but Vegeta only got stronger through the years while Gohan got soft. Vegeta looks for new challenges (which is why he foolishly let Cell become perfect) but he rises to meet them. Moving on.
@BigZach772 жыл бұрын
@@wilcee675 That's a really lame justification. The point is Vegeta literally did not practice his own advice, nor has his been successful using or not using his own advice. He's stronger and Gohan is weaker because of plot armor.
@wilcee6752 жыл бұрын
@@BigZach77 Vegeta's been more successful in Dragonball Super. Unlike Gohan, Vegeta trained with Whis. Gohan didn't even train after losing to base Frieza. That's not plot armor.
@nickrobles67163 жыл бұрын
Vegeta’s right 100%. Gohan really let himself go. He was so far ahead of both Goku and Vegeta when he was just a kid that it took them 7 years to close the gap. Now he’s really struggling against Dabura, an opponent that Goku himself said was more or less equal to Cell, whom Gohan was almost effortlessly knocking around when he was 11. Now Vegeta is forced to sit and watch a fight that should be over before it even started. Add to that the fact he realized that Goku is still stronger and someone with even more potential than him has wasted it. Yeah, talk about frustrated lol.
@great1593 жыл бұрын
Gohan was 9yrs old when he fought Cell NOT 11yrs old. HORRIBLE english dubs.
@nickrobles67163 жыл бұрын
@@great159 oh really?? Thanks, I never knew that. In the manga/Japanese dub he’s 9?
@FonutYT2 жыл бұрын
@@nickrobles6716 this guy is incorrect in the manga he was 9 but the anime he was 11
@nickrobles67162 жыл бұрын
@@FonutYT yeah that’s what I thought but is that like a translation issue or something ??
@Undomaranel2 жыл бұрын
Gohan was not effortlessly knocking Cell around as a preteen, least of all Perfect Cell. He survived because of teamwork, because Vegeta came in clutch, or are you forgetting that Cell toyed with everyone? Also, CHILD. LITERAL CHILD. Go look at the random 4th grader. CHILD. Against Perfect Cell. Gohan was in a rage and super saiyan out of sheer blind emotions, he was never winning, he was surviving and scraping by because the adults in his life all failed him. Literally, Gohan only ever fought Cell because Vegeta's ego let him catch 17, and Trunks was busy trying to stop that mess. Also, Vegeta cares about fighting. Gohan not so much, he feels trapped by his heritage and the people around him constantly choosing violence. Vegeta was never his prince, think back to his first memories and being attacked again and again and again by Vegeta's hand at earth and on Namek. So while Vegeta sees the half-breed Gohan as a member of his race (who again, Vegeta's the ONLY one in the group who knows anything about their racial culture), Gohan really has no attachment or allegiance to Vegeta beyond "oh hey, the guy who always lets the enemy get to his strongest so the rest of us have to clean up or we all die is yelling at me, and now he's lecturing me on not living up to the same Saiyan Pride that puts all of us in danger because of his crass stupidity". I honestly feel no shame here for Gohan. He lived his life and made his choices, which happened to be different from Vegeta and Goku. Big whoop. Acting like "letting himself go" when he's still able to fend of the vast majority of assailants is toxic. There was nothing wrong in pointing out that Krillin and Piccolo were left stuck because he wasn't up to snuff, what was wrong was berating him for not living the exact same path as the others. (Oh no, the abused and neglected child with complexes wants to stay away from fighting, but this is a fighting anime so lets all victim shame him... take a step back and listen to yourselves. I am very much aware this isn't real life, but you're treating it like it is so you might as well consider the social dilemmas and ethics as well as the war time strategems.)
@mrcalmyourself54054 жыл бұрын
If gohan trained those 7 years dude would've been stronger than ever basically mastered his moves
@mat70834 жыл бұрын
Better yet, he could've trained and used his academic knowledge to experiment on and enhance his training during those seven years. A thought that should've occurred to Gohan considering his past encounters with powerful foes both on earth and beyond.
@mat70833 жыл бұрын
@Digital Fates Exactly. And a fighter better than Goku
@raghavlohia41163 жыл бұрын
@Digital Fates exactly like his grandpa, bardock....
@doraeguyakaneddie65863 жыл бұрын
@@raghavlohia4116 He was a brilliant scientist
@nerdtom45133 жыл бұрын
@@mat7083 no shut up
@citystar23182 жыл бұрын
“Take a goood look at yourself…. You crumbled!” One of my favorite Vegeta tirades and he was actually right. Never understood the tanking of Gohan’s character development.
@treehugger36158 ай бұрын
Mystic Gohan was meant to turn that around. A confident, daring, even cocky type of character Gohan.
@alexdeghost27292 ай бұрын
It's because Gohan being the guy who can solos the bad guys is contradictory to the narrative that everyone's strength becomes your own, and its not just you alone that wins the day.
@MasterMix291Ай бұрын
blame fans wanting goku to be the hero
@babyglorp Жыл бұрын
1:10 this shot always kills me lmaoo, he's such a shortstack
@enzu1532 жыл бұрын
I love how not only vegeta insults gohan but when he starts goku just carries on insulting gohan with vegeta lol
@ch4rlesiv1153 жыл бұрын
Vegeta saw Gohan rock Frieza’s shit as a 7 year old and Cell as an 12 year old, no wonder he’s so bitter about Gohan here
@R.R.R.7122 жыл бұрын
Vegeta is sure a great pep talker, and down to the point. Also, Vegeta did have respect for Gohan. I can see his pride showing off here.
@StardustSynchron2 ай бұрын
At least Gohan finally gets some love again in Super Hero and Sparking Zero recently
@JorgeF692 жыл бұрын
I love how vegeta was disappointed in how gohan just shows how highly he thought of him
@brandonmcclay853 жыл бұрын
And goku didn’t say shit at the end. Because vegeta was bang on. IMAGINE how badass gohan would have been if he did the year in time chamber with goku then vegeta?! Like the balance of positive reinforcement and ruthless savagery would have propelled him to a level unheard of
@nerdtom45133 жыл бұрын
You don't need to talk shit about Goku. Goku is a better trainer than anyone in Dragon Ball.
@Mercy3842 жыл бұрын
@@nerdtom4513 i agree and piccolo
@mandalore10892 жыл бұрын
@@nerdtom4513 That's not even remotely true.
@nerdtom45132 жыл бұрын
@@mandalore1089 That's more true than what you think
@Wsp86882 жыл бұрын
@@nerdtom4513 nope its not true, theres a lot of ppl in DB that are better than Goku at teaching, Whis, Roshi, King Kai, etc.
@izimari2 жыл бұрын
I love how both Vegeta *AND* Goku are RELENTLESSLY flaming Gohan's fighting technique together against his fight with Dabura.
@EmjeyMykel10014 жыл бұрын
vegeta should've applied what he's preaching when he was fighting semi perfect cell.
@dreamfoil37954 жыл бұрын
I think his fight against Cell is why he is so angry in this scene. Also Gohan should have known better since he himself toyed with Cell after turning SSJ2 and it cost Goku his life.
@ensanesane4 жыл бұрын
Difference is Vegeta learned from that lol
@edit43104 жыл бұрын
@@ensanesane good point lol
@carlosjohnmagdaraog22494 жыл бұрын
Different scenario vegeta wants cell to transform because cell is still not on his full potential vegeta wants to prove that he can kill him at his strongest meanwhile gohan has every aspect of defeating dabura he is definitely outclassed by gohan ssj2 there's no reason to keep the fight any longer but he still gets away because gohan keeps toying with him
@glowinthedark90824 жыл бұрын
Vegeta didn't care about his life. His pride always mattered to him more.
@EBWASupahMilian2 жыл бұрын
0:14 get with it Gohan! 😂😂😂 Damn even Goku though he was slackin
@Marcus_shawn Жыл бұрын
Vegeta: why not Gohan? Certainly you realize your son has the most latent ability of anyone we know Vegeta knows Gohan's potential better than anyone maybe even kakarot
@alfredoquezada37113 жыл бұрын
And this is why Future Gohan is a Badass!!.
@tausif3k3 жыл бұрын
And Vegeta is gonna make sure his son doesn't turn out like that.
@ritster212 жыл бұрын
He doesn’t. In Super, he outright forbids Trunks from training.
@tausif3k2 жыл бұрын
@@ritster21 super is bs. sorry, but it really is. only old dbz fans understand this
@renegade5952 жыл бұрын
@@ritster21 what is this "super" you speak of? Sounds like fanfic garbage
@sasuke0825942 жыл бұрын
@@ritster21 that’s just in the anime, read the manga, shits getting spicy, I’ll leave it at that.
@ritster212 жыл бұрын
@@sasuke082594 Trunks does even less in the manga. EVERYONE forbids Trunks and Goten from fighting.
@Cadolots3 жыл бұрын
Vegeta may be harsh but he take his saiyan pride seriously. He look at Gohan likenephew to him. Always wanting him to be at his best
@QuanBrown272 жыл бұрын
- It ain’t a may, it is a “IS” harsh 😅. And that behind whooping he gave him way back in the day wasn’t no Uncle treatment to me 🤷♂️.
@8ZakattacK92 жыл бұрын
This is exactly what Gohan needed to hear, more or less. He assumed he still had the same strength as he did when he fought Cell but he spent a whole year training with his dad in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber(or Room of Spirit and Time). Gohan never grew a spine raised by his mother after Goku's death. Slacking off acting like he was a normal kid when he should've made time to train for any new threats to the Earth. He made the same mistakes when fighting Fat Buu and Super Buu. His overconfidence was his downfall.
@ThatOneGuyCR2 жыл бұрын
Agree except for when fighting fat buu. That was a massive strength difference, no way gohan was winning
@w.o.jackson84322 жыл бұрын
@@ThatOneGuyCR Maybe if he trained he could have.
@ThatOneGuyCR2 жыл бұрын
@@w.o.jackson8432 If he trained yes ofc he wins, but overconfidence during the fight wasn't his problem.
@w.o.jackson84322 жыл бұрын
@@ThatOneGuyCR Correct, it was overconfidence in the preceding 7 years that led to him slacking off.
@sasuke0825942 жыл бұрын
What is this comment? Gohan had the right to live a normal life after all he’d done for the planet.
@leonorakristinerozalinamll94734 жыл бұрын
Listen to uncle Vegeta😁💪.
@PrimexMaxusTitan Жыл бұрын
It's really interesting to see Vegeta mentor Gohan of all people
@crystalwater5052 жыл бұрын
Vegeta is only angry because he saw first hand Gohan's incredible potential against Cell. Watch when Cell returns as Super Perfect Cell and Gohan powers up as SSJ2 again. Vegeta's face shows shock and awe out of respect for Gohan's power at the time. That's why Vegeta is upset that Gohan's power dropped so much when his potential is limitless.
@highestsettings2 жыл бұрын
Everyone is like "Vegeta is such a good prince" That's not it. Vegeta saw Gohan be the strongest out of all of them when he was a _child._ Say what you want about Vegeta, but he respects strength, and he's just so pissed at Gohan for not being as amazing as he can be. If you work for something your whole life right, and then you see a child who is better than you, they make you look like an amateur basically. Then ten years later they're worse than when they were a kid. You'd be just as pissed off because you could have used that potential, you'd use it properly, and they just fucking waste it.
@NigelSmasher Жыл бұрын
“Always opting for mercy when you should be viscous” my guy mercy is the only reason you’re alive
@Kobercules2 ай бұрын
So much symbolism at the end when Vegeta was speaking to Gohan 1:11 1. When Vegeta pushes Gohan back and sets his feet, Vegeta then stands firm and "tall" but not in the pose of an aggressor but as a King when he makes his statement. 2. "Two of your friends lives were in the balance and you crumbled" Vegeta scoffs as he finishes this statement because "friendship" is still somewhat foreign to Vegeta at this point. We all know Vegeta was not raised like Goku and the others to have such compassion. Gohan, however, being from Earth and understanding friendship better than Vegeta ever could STILL didn't put his best foot forward to save those closest to him. 3. This whole scene is set by Goku literally turning his back to Gohan while still being at his side the entire time Vegeta goes off. The scene/picture is displaying that at this moment that Goku knows full well Vegeta is right and is not going to coddle his boy. The stakes are high and Gohan needs to get it together and stop roleplaying as a hero and be the warrior he's shown them that he can be. In my opinion The Saiyan Hierarchy and Values are in full display here, even if the characters themselves don't see it.
@reenans28603 жыл бұрын
As right as Vegeta is, it's hilarious that Gohan could still wipe out a planet with ease at this stage
@sungod97973 жыл бұрын
They could do that since the saiyan arc of Z, so that’s not a high bar
@Ultimodestructico3 жыл бұрын
So? Anyone can do that. All you have to do is shoot a large blast right at the earth
@reenans28603 жыл бұрын
@@Ultimodestructico My point isn't that vegeta isn't correct. Remember even in the world of dbz, planet busters still make up less than 1% of the population. So to the majority of the dbz population and to people like you and me, hearing that someone who could easily destroy a planet (and that is an understatement) is still funny to hear.
@Potent1al2 жыл бұрын
@@reenans2860 Even Krillin is a planet buster immediately after the saiyan saga. Your point is moot.
@reenans28602 жыл бұрын
@@Potent1al Because I need to make myself clearer. It is funny to me because outside the z fighters the other billion of the population as well as people like you and me, would be gobsmacked if someone who can destroy planets is considered weak, that is all. As I said before, I know Vegeta is correct since he is relative to Gohan in power compared to mere humans and understands that Gohan is and should be capable of so much more. So in terms of my point being moot, it does not make sense since I am already aware my point is moot, I just found it amusing. Would be the equivalent of someone running at the speed of light and a mere human like me and you overhearing someone calling that person slow.
@dantelan-i-er54662 жыл бұрын
Everytime Vegeta gives a speech it makes me want to tear up and be like: "Bruh, you so right 😭"
@Chasanese Жыл бұрын
LMAOO”THIS IS UTTERLY RIDICULOUS” 😂😂 that mane felt that from the core of his heart uncle vegeta tweaking
@melwinchacko65152 жыл бұрын
Vegeta being a father to Gohan... Meanwhile Goku : 🗿🧍
@elmermedina17133 жыл бұрын
Even Goku was annoyed
@RamKumar-yi6wn4 жыл бұрын
Wish I had someone who low-key cared for me the way Vegeta does for Gohan😣
@RTGPrince2 жыл бұрын
I care for u...
@whitworth5s2482 жыл бұрын
Hit the gym. You're embarrassing yourself and the rest of us. That good enough?
@RamKumar-yi6wn2 жыл бұрын
@@RTGPrince Thank you ! I'm in a better place now than when I was when I made the original comment 😃
@RamKumar-yi6wn2 жыл бұрын
@@whitworth5s248 😤😅. I am kinda fit actually
@Trailerparked3452 жыл бұрын
I think Vegeta is a tough love kind of person, he obviously wants Gohan to be the best warrior possible and it frustrates him to see Gohan denying himself his full potential.
@SavantPete2 ай бұрын
The fact that Goku didn't interject when Vegeta was discipling Gohan, shows he agrees
@Sclassjay2 жыл бұрын
Vegeta thinking is this the nigga i risk my life for saving on namek bc I thought he was our only chance against freiza
@Nothing-ek2mu3 жыл бұрын
0:58 it feel like vegeta being a coach for this moment for gohan
@demogodxxp5 жыл бұрын
Adult Gohan is useless compared to Future Trunks.
@mikosav34524 жыл бұрын
@MADISON MARSH future trunks would had done the right thing
@a.jthomas61324 жыл бұрын
Blame all that to Chichi despite his indesire to fight.
@toku58294 жыл бұрын
@@a.jthomas6132 chi chi didn't want his son to be killed, his husband already died 2 times
@a.jthomas61324 жыл бұрын
@@blablablabla1878 Right
@jaimehernandez93114 жыл бұрын
ToP Gohan would wreck Future Trunks
@LiuKang334403 жыл бұрын
Vegeta gained respect for gohan and lost it right after
@dreamEnd3 ай бұрын
This is such a nice scene honestly. It's a huge wake up call for Gohan. He can't even refute anything Vegeta said because it's all the truth.
@AlwaysEquals50 Жыл бұрын
Gohan desperately needs an Uncle Ben in his life. 😂 He literally has the greatest power but does nothing with it.
@gotsumana2 жыл бұрын
Thought the title was “vegeta slapping gohan” it wasn’t until I watched the whole thing that I realised it said slagging 😂
@jlotti0092 жыл бұрын
You know..... Im really starting to realize that Vegetas character development is why I love that series
@justindza Жыл бұрын
His character arc is at the pinnacle of great planning and writing.
@dilungmoveityafool7772 жыл бұрын
Vegeta would make a good football coach.
@subnauticstudios6972 жыл бұрын
Gohan takes these words to heart for an episode at most and then gets hit with the same sentence by piccolo in super and was like "Wow... I did it again didn't I?"
@banks615 Жыл бұрын
We need an alternate reality series where Gohan doesn't suck because he trains and spars with vegeta for 7 years.
@Splaaash2203 Жыл бұрын
ChiChi wouldn’t allow it
@a.jthomas61325 жыл бұрын
Personally I blame Chi-Chi for making her son so weak regardless of his indesirable of fighting like his father. And Vegeta has the right to be angry.
@KenJones30235 жыл бұрын
It's all her fault for screwing up her son's future when he can be stronger than or as his father. What a shame
@nbmaster-hv8yd5 жыл бұрын
A.J Thomas not really gohan never liked fighting so it would make sense he stopped training
@KenJones30235 жыл бұрын
@MADISON MARSH We all get that. But still, she should've let him have the chance either way, even if he didn't like fighting. How can you be stronger as or than anybody if she don't give her sons any advantage to train on their free time?
@tsrav54 жыл бұрын
@MADISON MARSH A good mother would have taught her son to be strong. Not put him on testosterone suppression.
@Jay_SGE4 жыл бұрын
This is a misconception I always see lol Gohan never EVER liked fighting. He ALWAYS gets drunk off power. EG Cell & Buu. Every time Gohan becomes a “Fighter” it only works when he’s doing so to protect people not cause he “Likes” it.
@BlueBlaze72723 жыл бұрын
Apparently Vegeta is speaking facts about Gohan. If Gohan kept training for 7 years he never would've struggled against his fight against Debura and made quick work of him.
@PeterDarker922 жыл бұрын
Vegeta spoke for all us in those clips
@kelz6922 жыл бұрын
"2 of your friends lives where in the balance, and you crumbled", the moment he realised that the lecture wasn't just about pride and representing the sayain race, so much respect for vegeta, when it comes to the crunch, he always knows what needs to be done
@Jameslawz2 жыл бұрын
Uncle Vegeta laying the verbal smackdown on Gohan's candy ass. Sad part is, he's right...also Vegeta despises weakness so it's not like he was going to keep his mouth shut lol.
@Jameslawz2 жыл бұрын
Even Goku didn't interrupt!
@kazatori5 жыл бұрын
Even tho Vegeta was right, i wanted to see Gohan clapback
@AwankO3 жыл бұрын
One year late 😅... well that would have been cool, but Vegetas words were hard hitting, Gohan couldn't come back from that savagery 🙈.
@someweirdguy3 жыл бұрын
He brought up his best friend piccolo the nigga that been rocking wit him since 4 years old...he had got basically killed him and his uncle krillen
@kazatori3 жыл бұрын
@@someweirdguy yeah u right
@whitedragoness233 жыл бұрын
Gohan’s real desire is to be a cross dressing singer
@JBtheJMB842 жыл бұрын
@@whitedragoness23 he got close enough with Saiyaman.
@thenumberquelve1582 жыл бұрын
Kakarot not even TRYING to stand up for his son. I actually like it. Kinda shows how Kakarot and Vegeta's personalities have almost convened into the same spot throughout the entire Z series. Vegeta's learned to stand up for his comrades as well as himself, while Kakarot has accepted that aggression is necessary and some opponents just have to be stopped at all costs.
@bakedgoods71162 жыл бұрын
He's not trying to defend him because he completely agrees with Vegeta lol, Chichi did Gohan dirty. I get wanting an education for your kid but she has to realize Gohan is half-saiyan, an alien race bred for war, she stunted his combat growth.
@oneandonlysound992 жыл бұрын
This is so true. It is a shame the Goku growth couldn't have kept going. Heck, even though I'd rather just watch the fun film with the better animation, there's no objection to Vegeta straight up murdering Ginyu in Tagoma's body. And if they could've just given Vegeta the win, he humilated Frieza so badly after everything. Also different characters go from Gohan knocking out a ton of guys to others ki blasting or just beating them up, Piccolo takes out the other strongest henchmen. GT also understood these things, it really is a shame they let most of super otherwise regress to basically pre-Buu arc in way too many aspects. Not limited too Gohan training again, Goku taking things more seriously, and Vegeta going from using a wizard to gain strength to just accepting it from his wife and fusing again, after his disgust for the potara earings was shown in the buu arc. That 1hr thing with those earings was an atrocious retcon but least the Broly film gave us Gogeta and even though Vegeta is annoyed he also gets they got Broly just seemingly growing stronger by the second and mind you a more refined frieza with "gold power" is also hanging around. It's just a shame they couldn't keep to the actual really solid development these characters would get from opposites to just beyond different approaches to things, walks of life, etc, and acceptance when these guys originally were trying to kill each other, Vegeta still holding the grudge that became a rematch...which Goku screwed him over by hiding SSj3...I wish the show could at least use buu saga development standards especially when they can present new villains that aren't so massively overpowered like Buu got.
@as-h9892 жыл бұрын
THAT NIGGA NAME IS GOKU
@as-h9892 жыл бұрын
@@bakedgoods7116 chi chi didn’t do that gohan WANTED to be a scholar himself. chile toriyama even said gohan likes studying more than fighting
@Entei9000 Жыл бұрын
Not long after this he did tell Vegeta to ease up a bit though. I think he just let Vegeta talk here cause he knew his points were valid.
@natedavies49812 жыл бұрын
“Bet you’ll be hitting the gym after this, huh?” “IF he survives” 😂😂😂
@aceclover758Ай бұрын
This is why Gohan needed to train mentally under Roshi. The sad fact is Gohan grew up with martial arts when it was needed to fight and kill others than wanted to kill him and his planet. It was different from how Goku and Krillin were introduced to martial arts and fighting. Bettering yourself while having the power to use when necessary or protect yourself and the innocent. Gohan needed to mentally train with Roshi to find his love for martial arts and how it doesn’t always mean senseless violence. As 16 said, there are some words alone won’t do anything towards.
@j.wildoutdoors84832 жыл бұрын
"From one prince to another, gohan." "You suck"
@nathanielwilliams48535 жыл бұрын
He did have a point, was awful
@lambda4942 жыл бұрын
I think this scene is supposed to be showing how Vegeta is consumed by desire for power and is frustrated by those who have it but don't use it--which makes him an easy target to bring out evil. On the other hand, he's saying what Gohan fans feel too. Hopefully the DB Super movie coming out this year will give him a little boost!
@ytmndman2 жыл бұрын
Vegeta: You go too easy on your opponent, always opting for mercy when you should be vicious. That is no way to win! Coming from the guy who deliberately refused to finish off Cell and let him get his perfect form...
@wilcee2382 жыл бұрын
@ytmndman Except Vegeta wasn’t showing Cell mercy; he didn’t want to waste time fighting the Androids and Cell plus he wanted to see what Perfect Cell could do. Vegeta was battle crazy, Gohan was weak.
@ytmndman2 жыл бұрын
@@wilcee238 Same result though
@Jaykoro2 жыл бұрын
his plan was to kill cell after he had his fun, but cell told about his perfect form and he wanted a challenge, but you see how that ended
@ademduran82963 жыл бұрын
Vegeta is saying what Goku is thinking
@sasrio_2 жыл бұрын
This is just a fraction of frustration we feel, knowing Gohan is the strongest character, never reaching even a 10th of his potential.
@silversauceran2 жыл бұрын
blame akira toriyama. this new movie better make up for it
@itrej3 жыл бұрын
Uncle Vegeta at his finest
@CC-ed9lf3 жыл бұрын
The real reason Pan will be so powerful is because she has the blood of Mr. SATAN in her blood aswell as a saiyan warrior.
@albertolopez28883 жыл бұрын
everyone gangsta and want to train with Vegeta.. but, honestly, how many of us would be able to handle those kind of speeches?
@albertolopez28882 жыл бұрын
@@QuanBrown27 trully indeed my friend
@QuanBrown272 жыл бұрын
- You ain’t lying, I been said that for the longest 🤷♂️👍. But to a certain extent Gohan is use to it because how Chi-Chi and Piccolo are. Them three got the “SAME” attitude. I rather train with Goku because of his jovial behavior though.
@ItssFred2 ай бұрын
Another example of one of Gohan's other dads being a better father than Goku
@hitmanl5202 жыл бұрын
Man if vegeta was gohans father he would’ve been such a beast
@Solo-Skywalker2 жыл бұрын
I love how Vegeta had respect for Gohan! Vegeta has been pushing himself every single day and he assumed that the mighty Gohan that defeated Cell should be able to handle his own quite well but unfortunately he has nerfed himself.