The S58 Should Not Be Making This Much Power With A Simple Tune! (G87 M2, G80 M3, G82 M4)

[@barkbros123]

Ngl BMW took DOWNPIPES AND TUNE to another level with this new platform 💯💪

[@Nixto12]

Is actually so stupid how you just throw a downpipe and tune the car and just by that you get a bollilion hp increase

[@uspnightfire115]

@@Nixto12 I think you mean awesome. Beefed up motors, transmissions etc from the factory with a simple tune and getting a ton of power is a dream. Would you rather have a motor that you can't get any more power out of without bigger turbos or a motor/trans made out of glass? If so, buy a subie! 😄

[@Nixto12]

@@uspnightfire115 when I meant stupid I was giving props to bmw because of how easy they make it for us to increase hp. I own a F22 M235 and I gained 86whp with just downpipe and a tune

[@MarenAlyviaJuliep]

tunedbyai AI fixes this. S58's power: A simple cheat!

[@pos335i]

Thanks for the 60-130 times so many people won’t post those

[@ericcod1productions]

in auto its like 5.8 custom e50 s58 tune even x drive wiht more weight

[@uspnightfire115]

Stop spreading false information that the piggyback tune isn't traceable, of course it is! The logs are in the ECU and the dealer could easily pull them and see higher than stock boost levels and void a warranty right on that.

[@l.schaillee7401]

The car even logs when you dyno it. So if bmw notices weard boost levels and a dyno run they know enough to void warranty.

[@ramseycattn5941]

Wouldn’t unplugging the battery erase that data?

[@l.schaillee7401]

@@ramseycattn5941 Mat Armstrong rebuilt a bmw m5 and tuned it. He went to bmw to check the quality of hes work and the moment they plugged it in they got a notification about something unusual. The mechanic then also said it registered when he dynod it because it moves at high speeds but the car isnt going anywhere

[@chrisbrown3925]

Piggyback tunes fool the dme into thinking that the motor is operating at normal fuel, boost, and timing curves...that's why my foreman has a drawer full of damaged pistons at his desk!😅😅

[@saminekunis8680]

I agree with your statement. The Problem is just that my company needs unsuspucious Cars to protect the 2/3 Cars which are transporting expensive IT Equipment. Using a Porsche 911 GT3 would simple give it all away but even a modded M2/3 won’t catch that much attention.

[@lafosh7234]

Bro those automatic S58’s be MOVING ya heard

[@em34ev3r]

yerrrrrr

[@loudaccord]

Fun video, I ran 7.0 in my xdrive M4 with an e30 OTS map... the auto def help, weight hurts but your times seem right in line with other OTS numbers.

[@VehicleVirals]

Appreciate you sharing that.

[@iamjayjay6790]

Looks awesome! With the tune, do you get any warning lights on the screen?

[@VehicleVirals]

Zero warning lights.

[@daidinero7745]

Nearly 800 crank is insane .

[@MisterSkizzels]

Crazy! I thought my Supra with bm3 flex fuel e40 tune was a riot at 500whp/550wtq ...this has to be scary

[@sseanjohn]

That’s crazy ! The s58 is a beast

[@f30sosa]

@ 4:33 I never heard of those tires can you make a video on them 🤣🤣🤣 did Michelin, and continental make a collaboration

[@evanearp3644]

such a well put together video. enjoyed watching this alot.

[@cschilli68]

What clutch are you going with? Left my M2 at 600whp to preserve the stock clutch

[@VehicleVirals]

Clutch Masters.

[@F22Sebast]

I love these uploads and how informative they are.

[@bobbylight5686]

Dude. Awesome M2. Set up looks sick and color is on point

[@TheChris91173]

Honestly starting with n63tu. Downpipes and tune for bmw just got ridiculous

[@fqzy4999]

hell yeah im shipping f10 550i from US rn cant wait to get my hands on it. I wanted a "luxury" mixed with performace (cheap) for my 21 birthday. God bless AMERICA for providing cheap low mileage n63tu compared to europe.

[@NoRbEger]

Test it with antilag and NLS as well!

[@brucewayne4178]

Do tunes in cars generally lower mpg? Or does it stay about the same? Also an fyi, the manual in your m2 handles less torque compared to the zf 8 speed. People on forums say like the max you should go is around 550-600lbs of torque

[@f30angel]

I’m sure it does since your running higher boost or if u keep in sport mode a lot

[@VehicleVirals]

Honestly it'd only lower MPG if you're under WOT. Also, Ethanol in general yields lower MPG.

[@JacesOwnWorld]

It depends how you drive. If you are in boost all the time, then yes, fuel consumption will be more over stock tune. But if you stay out of boost and just cruise, then the mpg's will practically stay the same. Ethanol always yields lower mpg's over octane., hence why ethanol costs less per gallon.

[@number36420]

700 wheel is awesome. The M2 is the only current original style dope looking M car or BMW in general.

[@speeddemonRS3]

😂

[@Arvydas-fd7yy]

It’s your own opinion, g80 looks incredible

[@thomasferrarojr.9772]

​@@Arvydas-fd7yyTerrible

[@jjbmuu]

That's impressive being a manual and also almost exactly what my x3m does now

[@KipacWF]

Are ots maps safe to run in the long run? How do they compare to bringing a car to to a credible tuner?

[@Broke-Media]

OTS maps are considered very safe in terms of tuning because they’re more conservative so any car around the world can run them rather than the tune being built for an individual car

[@HawkHand-c9b]

Which otx map did you choose? Stage 2 e40 from mhd?

[@oCaptainKorma]

BMW be making this ready out the box

[@yuvirpunwasi9506]

Absolutely loving the content, keep it coming ... always look forward to a new upload 😃👍🏻

[@LucidLoki]

I have Continental Extreme Contact DWS 06 on my 335i and love them. I don’t need the snow capability since I’m on the coast in Mobile,AL, but it rains almost every day in the summer here and they have excellent grip in the wet. Plus they have a slower wear than a full summer so they last longer. Once I stop dailying it I’ll probably try the sport 02’s. Just wanted something that would wear a little slower to save a little money.

[@reynaldorivera743]

Bad ass whip I want one all black Can’t afford M4 But this is as good .Great video 🙏🙏👏👏👍👍🇵🇷🇵🇷

[@torentmonkey]

It's incredible how much the 8hp gears help acceleration. Takes away some pleasure but boy. Would be great to compare to another m2 with same mods and map but the other box.

[@Broke-Media]

Great video! Amazing numbers for an OTS map

[@curveofsound]

My stock 2010 C6 ZR1 ran 7.6 60-130, after just e85, tune, smaller pulley, and intake, it ran 5.6 seconds 60-130... About 3k in mods. ZR1 is ridiculous. M2 looks great though, I've owned 3 M cars and was looking at these, it's just really hard to follow up a ZR1 with any other car.

[@joshconnolly4309]

Zr1 is cream of the crop.. can’t get much better than that going American.

[@sf1of1]

I need a zr1 in my life

[@curveofsound]

@@joshconnolly4309 it's the only American car I've ever owned. Everything else has been German and 2 Japanese cars!

[@joshconnolly4309]

@@curveofsound I only own German atm, buying an rsx type s next week though. Basically a Honda

[@christopherl6776]

I also have a g87 with the 6 speed manual. My question is around the clutch slipping with the added power. Just not sure how much torque the stock clutch can reliably handle. Thanks

[@VehicleVirals]

Stock clutch has been fine. I will be upgrading it soon however.

[@behindthebuild8016]

How’s your 0-60 with the rwd?

[@TWINSZ1011]

Great videos! Wanted to know do you have content on E66’s. I would love to see upgrades for it.

[@rickdawson1216]

Would you consider the tunes on the MHD to be safe. I have a g87 m2 and I am considering it.

[@VehicleVirals]

Email us [e-mail]

[@pierre4046]

I would like to eventually see no lift shift on MHD+ for N54’s. You should be able to have that as an option if you have a strong enough rated clutch like a twindisk.

[@all4bspinnin311]

No lift shift is an option for n54. Select the shift bog fix and go to work.

[@judas5951]

Love your car! Just wondering if you're having issues with the clutch, considering the crazy torque it's generating.

[@VehicleVirals]

So far so good

[@yatusabesUW]

Have you ever had issues with the FRM module while tuning multiple times with MHD?

[@VehicleVirals]

Nah

[@charlesgarcia4928]

What size tires are you running on the beadlocks?

[@VehicleVirals]

315 40 18

[@BMW1M]

G87 M2: 3 Litres, 15T turbos, E40 and 29psi. Sounds like my E82M 1M ;)

[@kizashikaze9066]

Good Lord, love this!

[@sf1of1]

Can’t wait to own this platform in 2025

[@chrisbrown3925]

I think you are right about the piggy back tune being untraceable...our scopes (and the smog machine) detect software, not overboost conditions, i haven't seen our scopes pick up a piggyback yet...also, we have an m2 in the shop with the clutch delay valve removed. He says at times it feels like the diff is locking up during fast shifts, but our foreman contends that the trans may not be "clear" of one gear before sliding into the next! Anyone out there have luck with this mod? Bmw master tech from CA...

[@OutOfStateSXS]

Hi, do you khow much $$$ is the same unlock the ECM and the off the shelf tunes 93, E30 and E40? I live in the Orlando area where is your shop located?

[@VehicleVirals]

We are in Orlando. Email us [e-mail]

[@TomaszKowalski-ey1xj]

Stuning increase, excellent job! What numbers has F30 and Aly's suv showed on a dyno? 🤓

[@VehicleVirals]

Aaly's video is live on his channel. F30 video will be on my channel soon.

[@samkazangas2022]

The piggy back tune is deff tracable lmao

[@btardoja0117]

Great video keep up the good work...

[@editplayz5150]

Can the clutch really handle this much torque? Ive seen the 6 speed manual supposedly can only handle up to 550 as to compared to the 8 speed automatic handling it no problem.

[@VehicleVirals]

So far it's holding up.

[@js002003]

Loving these vids seeing the m2 come along. should be sub 7 seconds with the no lift up shift engaged. insane... and was gonna ask if you're doing a CDV delete (doing mine in a few weeks).

[@VehicleVirals]

Yeah, I have a clutch upgrade going on soon. I'll tackle the CDV at the same time.

[@js002003]

@@VehicleVirals nice! excited for that one... also one last question, are you using a flex fuel kit for the ethanol mixture or just using math/app to figure it out? no upgraded fuel lines or anything else right? just the stock fuel tank, etc?

[@VehicleVirals]

​@@js002003No flex fuel at the moment. As you can see in the earlier part of the video (if you missed it) I'm using an online calculator. Fuel system is stock.

[@JorgeCabrera-zh7yr]

​@VehicleVirals and that's all you need really

[@lafosh7234]

How y’all think them hurricane powered chargers with awd stack up to the S55/S58’s?

[@VehicleVirals]

Challengers/chargers don't compete.

[@plakic]

If it was auto, what 60-130 time would it be getting?

[@VehicleVirals]

Probably half a second faster

[@paulpateman6723]

That looked very very fast Christian are you doing rod bearings and turbo 🇬🇧👍🇬🇧👍

[@VehicleVirals]

Rod bearings aren't needed. But maybe a turbo upgrade.

[@josederek75]

What brand is the beadlock?

[@VehicleVirals]

VFC. You can get 10% by referencing Vehicle Virals to them.

[@josederek75]

Can I used for f80 m3?

[@VehicleVirals]

@@josederek75 yes they make F80 spec. Hit them up

[@JacesOwnWorld]

Wow. The aftermarket parts for the new M2, listed on his website, are cheaper than the mods for my MK7 GTI, which is now a 7.5 year old car! How ridiculous is that!! VW parts are so overpriced!!!

[@VehicleVirals]

There is so much competition within the BMW community that it helps keep the prices lower across the board.

[@blackoutbee]

can’t wait for the m2 vs x3m comp video next… beadlocks vs awd 😂

[@TheChris91173]

What’s your favorite car in the lineup

[@VehicleVirals]

E60 M5 :)

[@spiraling69]

Will it beat the new Tesla 3 Performance?

[@MatthewAbendroth]

Beat it at what? Looking awesome? Sounding awesome? Quarter mile? Being fun to drive, having a manual transmission? Tesla M3P will beat M2 in a 0-60, beat it on price, and beat it on practicality. But this isn't a car for being cheap or practical, so that leaves the 0-60 as about the only metric the Tesla bests it on. Love Teslas but this is a different tool for a different job, despite both being fast small cars.

[@cjm9099]

Cost of the mods to get to the 700 horsepower?

[@VehicleVirals]

All the mods linked in the video's description

[@jorgej5916]

700 HP ! Unreal! Killer M2 !! Enjoy!

[@BrokeMahWallet]

S58 is such an op engine 😵‍💫

[@bexigesky2599]

Stock clutch needs to be upgraded

[@ninjastriker0137]

Nice vid bro

[@chazdean201]

Those wheels are stupid nice. Dang

[@bmwabbitnator]

Car is amazing dude

[@kodeina1926]

my 2017 g30 540i rwd makes 7.82 100-200 on E40 520 bhp 620 torque

[@CassadyPollard]

You need a light weight flywheel and possibly a twin disc clutch

[@VehicleVirals]

Car has a twin disc clutch from the factory.

[@CassadyPollard]

@@VehicleVirals deff need a lightweight flywheel

[@carldouglasFL]

why not 110 oct?

[@VehicleVirals]

E85 has usually had an octane rating of around 105

[@dr.haroldweinstein5157]

Racetrac has been very consistently E85 at every one that I test

[@v8rockz]

German precision from MHD..

[@HennyManTactics]

How do I enter the give away

[@VehicleVirals]

I will announce details soon

[@jackiele101]

Michelin or Continental brother?

[@VehicleVirals]

Hard to beat the PS4 tires honestly. But for money I'd say Continental.

[@5oldato]

@@VehicleVirals I think he’s asking because you mixed it up in the video. At 4:32 you called the Continentals "Michelins"

[@VehicleVirals]

@@5oldato Oh my apologies. I meant Continental in the video.

[@5oldato]

@@VehicleVirals Nothing to apologize for 🫶

[@5oldato]

@@VehicleVirals Nothing to apologize for 🫶

[@StockB8]

If the engine were to blow can’t they just read the data before it blew and see it was pushing more boost than it’s supposed too?

[@VehicleVirals]

Absolutely the car's DME has been flashed.

[@nasosnasos8054]

Love

[@VitiPerformance]

This is with no port injection? Wow. Impressive

[@VehicleVirals]

Yeap

[@TheLager97]

60-130 has to be faster starting in second, at least it's like that for me

[@VehicleVirals]

Tried off camera and it wasn't faster. It was .25 seconds slower. Maybe with NLS, it'd be better.

[@TheLager97]

@@VehicleVirals maybe just the gearing of 335 is different, because I think I hit 60 after shifting to 3rd

[@JacesOwnWorld]

Given how slow he shifts lol, it wont.

[@VehicleVirals]

@@JacesOwnWorld You can't shift any faster than what I did. The car still has the CDV, which I mentioned on video.

[@TheLager97]

@@VehicleVirals i have to test also with that valve deleted since I still have it

[@hotdog9262]

afaik ethanol is not great for the engine long term

[@kingcharger3412]

🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@CSKeaton.]

It is traceable. Dealers can see the increase of wgdc and IDC

[@suprola7961]

This car is going to make me trade in the Supra! 😅

[@SteveBennet500]

Those are really the stock ots maps that come with mhd? Whats the point of a custom tune then lolol

[@VehicleVirals]

Yeap ots.

[@coleoace5706]

Custom tunes are generally required when you dramatically mod fueling or air, such as a dual lpfp or turbo(s)

[@Bimmer_Bill]

That kies strut brace is a joke. Heim joints have no business being used on braces.

[@turbos7780]

Why so

[@Bimmer_Bill]

@@turbos7780 heim joints are designed to move and introduce weak points that center around the joint itself. With the factory brace especially the cs/csl it is one solid structure. The fact is all of the aftermarket companies don’t do any computer aided structural modeling with their designs, unlike bmw did. They are more or less, show pieces.

[@turbos7780]

@@Bimmer_Bill i agree they do look good

[@Bimmer_Bill]

@@turbos7780 yes they do look good. I just don’t like downgrades in performance.

[@turbos7780]

@@Bimmer_Bill absolutely something that also bothers me are the open front intakes these downgrade the shit out of the performance its only for sound

[@BIGMoodNY]

Bro fed the M2 enough extra power to feed a commuter car lol

[@SHWELL11]

I think my 535 can take the M2.... But only during the shifts... LOL... I'll see you guys thiis week..

[@ErwinSchrodinger64]

This completely destroys the B58.

[@Carlos-ro4ji]

Wow Tigere

[@E90m3superchargedGr]

My time with less power manual supercharger e90 m3 was 6,5 😂😂

[@jonathandelapaz1307]

First time driving manual?

[@eastnewyork3434]

SplashWoRld🌎The Greatest

[@pacpacpacpacpac]

Great numbers but the 60-130 with 700hp is pretty slow...my Evo 9 with 670hp do that in 6.2 Seconds...nearly 1 second faster

[@VehicleVirals]

I mean the Evo 9 also weighs like 600lbs less and I'm sure it doesn't have such a delay between shifts. Also keep in mind this is an OTS map. I'm sure we can speed things up with both a custom tune and clutch delay valve delete.

[@neil5242]

A brief comment on tuning. If the car is under warranty and it fails due to a tune, the manufacturer will not pay up. How will BMW know you've mapped it, regardless of whether it's still mapped or not? Because when they plug the car into their computer, they'll see it's done 100mph whilst not moving, they'll conclude it's been on a dyno and your warranty will be invalided. Do NOT tune cars which are still under manufacturer's warranty. If you aren't happy with the power and torque of the new M2, then buy a used M5 Comp instead.

[@VehicleVirals]

Neil you must be new to the channel. That's all we do around here.

[@guidefortheblindguy4319]

Great to be the first watching, commenting, and giving a like to this video.

[@TheOmegaSanction]

Beadlocks tho....😅😅😅😅😂😂😂😂

[@spussego]

you are going to blow that b58 engine... you need to get forged internals ASAP......

[@Davidaboi]

It’s an s58 not b58. Internals handle more os the s than the b

[@SupraSkylineHKS]

Rods are weaker in the s58 than the b58, the rods are thinner in the s58 if he keeps doing high load while in low rpms hes going to throw a rod, normally in you’d want to be around 4.5k/5k rpm when you punch it from a roll. Punching it at around 3k rpm’s you’re going to bend a rod eventually. N54’s had this issue since they make peak torque around 1.5k rpm’s. Same applies to the s58 and b58 and any car making crazy torque. Torque kills transmissions and bends rods. My n54 tuner told me about this and im glad

[@OneslowS4]

Let me come do a dyno at ur shop

[@VehicleVirals]

We weren't at our shop.

[@OneslowS4]

@@VehicleVirals let me know i got a stage 2 audi s4 on ethanol

[@VehicleVirals]

@@OneslowS4 It was not our shop. It was at Precision Sport industries

[@raymondaraujo1375]

1000hp easy

[@ninjastriker0137]

Whos here before 1k views

[@E90m3superchargedGr]

With 700+ wheel power for 60-130 probably would be under 6 probably 5 ! American horsepower 😂

[@t-rex7796]

“Lost so much time just in that one shift”. Which is why I have no idea why people buy fast cars in a manual.

[@RCF4u2nv]

Ehh..not great

[@dominicancash]

This guy did a charge cooler and is running a pos jb4 like garbage, stop watching right way , send your dme to finland and tune it right dont use that trash

[@VehicleVirals]

Did you even watch the video?

[@SwapDepot]

You must be deaf and blind 😂 video literally is about a MHD stage 2 E40 map 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

[@Wow2cars]

Shift faster 🤡

[@VehicleVirals]

Limited by the clutch delay valve 🤡

[@STR1XDLB]

I m sorry to break it to you but the fastest roller coaster it s faster than the model s plaid which also is faster than this M2 so...dont make bold claims just enjoy your car