"VEILED MELANCHOLY" - Chopin Waltz in C# minor Op. 64 no. 2 - Analysis

[@jimbrady3538]

On top of how well Chopin effortlessly constructs a work is how satisfyingly they flow from the hand to the keyboard.

[@SonataSecrets]

Absolutely!

[@sarkarpianist5540]

Please explain.

[@jimbrady3538]

@@sarkarpianist5540: meaning the concept of "form and function". Individual flourishes and the structure of our hand and technique are perfectly intertwined. Chopin's compositions are specific to the piano. (while Bach are independently of the instrument. I'm not aware of any Chopin works successfully being transcribed to other instruments?)

[@tomarmstrong1281]

It is impossible to describe how envious I am of this young man’s skill and knowledge. We are all so fortunate to be able to have the benefit, through this medium, of his generosity and patience. The thoughtful manner in which brings his talents to us to expand our understanding of these masterpieces in a clear and sympathetic manner is more than heartwarming. His videos help to keep me grounded in the quality of what our lives on this planet should be about. Especially that with just a touch of a button the curtains are pulled back on the other depressing insight into the negative aspects of our shared nature.

[@davids.688]

6:30 (Plays a short presto passage from the finale of Chopin’s piano sonata no. 3 perfectly) “Sorry, I haven’t practiced that ...” What a revelation this channel is. Thank you, sir.

[@Kivancli79]

"With the Major we get a little hopeful ☺ but then, in the end ... it didnt work out, it goes back to minor 😢" Story of his life

[@dpetrano]

Waltz in C# minor, like most of Chopin's music, is MORBID, beyond melancholy. I love it and have been playing it for 50 years.

[@PhilipGarciaReacts]

Henrik, I’m hooked on your analysis especially for Chopin! Thank you for doing this one, I have been waiting for this 🤗🤗🤗

[@RobertOrgRobert]

15:12 the new melody leap is pure genius ! Great video.

[@alejandrolunagarcia9375]

I did not know there was such a thing as the hypermeter, everything makes sense now 😅

[@Slowbroski]

This is the best and most beautiful Waltz Chopin has ever composed. You did a great analysis :)

[@StuartSimon]

When I was beginning music history studies in college and listening to classical music, I received a copy of a CD sampler of Rubinstein’s recordings, “Selections from the Chopin Collection.” It was something of a hodgepodge, but it had both the C-sharp-minor and Minute waltzes played in that order. I had to get used to hearing the waltzes in the opposite order on recordings of the Opus 64 set. Either way, one follows the other seamlessly.

[@chowbow573]

Among all Chopin’s grandeur pieces, this waltz is my favourite among all his compositional works. And btw, I’m working on this piece right now, thank you so much!!!

[@diatonicdissonance]

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[@SonataSecrets]

Wow thank you so much, I feel honoured by this. I'm so happy people seem to like this content, and as a musician it's really my pleasure to share this great music. Welcome to my Patreon! :)

[@sunnybeta_]

Oh the speed with which I clicked this video ❤️❤️😭❤️

[@ronniemat193]

gorgeously played,Sir, you're brilliant! One of my favourite pieces. never knew about hypermeter, thank you for your explanation

[@simongarrettmusic]

How I love this piece of Music. Your videos are wonderful, thank you so much for making them, you're a great teacher.

[@Powerslider]

Henrik, your channel is getting more amazing every day! I'm now also recommending your channel to my piano-friends! Can't wait for more jems to pass here!

[@SonataSecrets]

Thank you so much for recommending the channel!

[@PedroStreicher]

Big smile when I saw the video title, I LOOOOVE this piece. Greetings from Brazil! 🎹♥️🇧🇷

[@appetiteofthemind7696]

Your videos have such a superb quality... I am sure this channel will blow up. Keep up the great work!

[@aliediskasoglu7998]

This is such a nice analysis. I really enjoyed it. I was actually waiting for this, so thank you so much! Keep your awesome videos coming!

[@DomskiPlays]

Man I absolutely adore Chopin's Waltzes. Seriously. I'm about to drive into Vienna city center to print them all out!! :)

[@SonataSecrets]

Sounds like a good plan! :)

[@DomskiPlays]

@@SonataSecrets Yup i picked them up - and a new nocturne too. Now I've got to learn them though, which is always the hard part 😅

[@storybored972]

That little hitched rhythm in the first figure is irresistible.

[@AnaPaula-np5rq]

Wonderful video! Beautiful Waltz of Chopin man of my dreams. ♥️🌻🌻🌻🌻Bravo 👏

[@xinyueeeg]

Thanks!

[@lavendelle_swift]

I really love his Compositions especially his Waltzes. Well explained.

[@SonataSecrets]

Thanks!

[@pianoworld233]

One of my favourite waltzes from chopin. Great video.

[@atmadeepmukherjee5550]

Good evening Sir. I am Atmadeep. Your use of emoticons in your videos is amazing. You are truly a master of understanding a piece, going to its deepest roots. I never knew that much of Fantasie Impromptu until I saw your video. Your performance and analysis for this waltz deserves a round of applause. 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏 I just wanted to say a fun fact about Wilhelm Stenhammar. Did you know that he composed a suit from a worldwide famous Indian poet and musician, Rabindranath Tagore's play Chitra?

[@moniquethurston4109]

Hello Henrik , with the body of work you have analyzed you could add another star to your talent : music therapy. From the waltz du "petit chien "to the veiled and nor so veiled melancholic waves of the C sharp minor waltz and everything else in between you have approached, you would have ample tools for quite a palette of human mood variations . Please folks support Henrik !

[@SonataSecrets]

Thank you Monique! Yes, music speaks in emotion and that's a language we all share as humans.

[@orchestrain88keys]

Excellent analysis, as usual. Thank you! But, what I find very challenging in this piece is the use of pedal, especially during the first 4 sentences (according to you, thoughtful followed by playful parts). I would love to hear more about that. If possible, please post a short video on that.

[@jeanmarie0733]

Décortication et analyse magistrale de tous les fragments de cette valse de Chopin par le pianiste Henrik Kilhamn. , dont le dernier passage est écouté en entier , le tout pour notre plus grand bonheur , à nous les amis de ' l'âme de Chopin '.

[@SonataSecrets]

Merci beaucoup!

[@fortissimoX]

Thank you for creating and sharing this video! I'm in the process of learning this piece, and this definitely helps. Thanks again! 🙂

[@sendpats]

This was very enjoyable thank you! I would love to see your analysis on Nocturne Op 27 no 2 in the future! 😊

[@klaus-dietrichgast2541]

Thanks

[@SonataSecrets]

Much appreciated!

[@charleswestphal9566]

Brilliant tutorial and lovely playing. Cheers Henrik

[@alexmantua]

A beautiful waltz, I used to play it a while. thx for uploading

[@shimsham9113]

Wow! And I am just about to play it for my recital, so many interpretations of this awesome piece!

[@dianethan-trong1030]

Wow, what a wonderful analysis.I will come back to this piece and re practice. Thank you so much 🌿🌷

[@mohammadbayazid5064]

Thank you! I love this piece so much!

[@Jon77Levy]

Ay, in the very temple of delight Veiled Melancholy has her sovran shrine, Though seen of none save him whose strenuous tongue Can burst Joy's grape against his palate fine; His soul shall taste the sadness of her might, And be among her cloudy trophies hung. Excerpt from 'Ode to Melancholy' by John Keats

[@RobertSmith-le8wp]

I love this piece. As always great job

[@zyxefalc0n505]

Mr ice: you better not miss a note. XD

[@olivie2chekarglas707]

Your videos are soooo good, please keep it up !

[@ameliaward2142]

These videos are the best. Thank you so much 😊

[@alvinlohwaihoong1817]

Love the analysis and your work, as always! Henrik, do you have plan to explain one of Chopin's melancholy waltz op 34 no2?

[@SonataSecrets]

I haven't played it before, but looked at it a bit now when I was doing these two from op. 64. Maybe some time later in the future... Lovely piece with less veiled melancholy, so to say.

[@klevang7557]

Nicely done Henrik! Got to practice this again this summer 🤓

[@darkside1928]

I enjoy your videos so much!

[@SonataSecrets]

Thank you so much Serdar! :)

[@beakless_duck]

Oooh I was just revisiting this piece!

[@RoelFlash]

Love it! Since there are so many repeats of the sections, do you have different interpretation ideas for how to perform the different sections when repeated? Also, what are your thoughts on doing the trills as appoggiatura rather than on the beat? Keep up the good work!

[@SonataSecrets]

Yes, I didn't get into variations of the repeats, but of course I do it if I play the whole piece. Usually, I take the B section not so fast the first time, and then faster when it returns. When the A section returns, I feel the urge to play it grander to start with, as a contrast to the pp B section, and then add more rubato than the first time. Just some thoughts, but also I might leave it open depending on the feeling of the day and the situation. It's one of the few pieces that I can actually enjoy that kind of freedom :) And the trill, yes the normal way to interpret it as written would be to do it before the beat, but somehow in this placement within the melody it feels natural to let it occupy the beat instead. But definately before the beat is also right. In some recordings it even feels like they do it somewhere in between (Barenboim, Rubinstein).

[@chiaramalek1529]

Thank u very much so much knowledge and love for teaching the great literature 😍

[@keithkunikida1222]

First!!!!!!! Love your channel so much

[@SonataSecrets]

Thank you Keith. Yes, both will come in the autumn!

[@SonataSecrets]

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[@caterscarrots3407]

That hypermeter thing, I have seen Beethoven use that to great effect in his Scherzos. His 3/4 Scherzos like say, the Scherzo of the ninth symphony, often have a 2/4 hypermeter, in other words each group of 2 measures has one accented measure and one unaccented measure, and keeps following the characteristic 2/4 accent pattern.

[@SonataSecrets]

Exactly, in quick tempos it's more common.

[@sevdanovruzova7242]

Thank you so much 🙏🙏🙏💞💞💞

[@ljl451]

Nice presentation. Just to let you know, a few times you said D instead of G (for example at 14:44 and 16:39). By the way, I never noticed the tied G-sharp that you pointed out at 16:39.... thanks!

[@JNCPiano]

Wonderful! Thanks for sharing!!!

[@SonataSecrets]

Thank you Jennifer! And thank you for sharing, your channel has been an inspiration for me.

[@DanielMartinez-lz2yb]

Jesus, you make it look easy!

[@EpicXBoy]

Very good work we really appreciate the effort, thank you so much

[@SonataSecrets]

It's my pleasure!

[@rachmaninovatan]

Thanks a lot ❤️❤️❤️

[@ethanhebel6588]

Have you ever written any compositions yourself? If so I’d love to eventually hear them and maybe even an analysis. Great video btw

[@SonataSecrets]

Well, I keep thinking that to myself too, but I haven't composed since some early tries in my youth. I figured I wanted to learn how to play the piano properly first before I'd try again, and I still haven't quite got there 😅

[@SonataSecrets]

Btw, if I ever composed, I think I should not be the one to analyze it! I think there should be a healthy divide there, to keep some artistic stringency intact.

[@ethanhebel6588]

@Sonata Secrets Wow if you’re ability to play isn’t considered mastery i don’t know what would be😂. Also good point I’ve never thought of analysis like that. Every analysis and interpretation of the music is unique.

[@caterscarrots3407]

I love all of Chopin’s waltzes and was thinking of arranging them for string quartet starting with Grande Valse Brilliante op. 18 which is the earliest of his waltzes and my favorite out of all of them.

[@lisacalgary5660]

Terrific as always...I recommend your videos to my students! Have you done the rachmaninoff vocalise (kocsis)? I would love your input!

[@SonataSecrets]

Thank you for recommending the channel! :) I have played the vocalise a lot with both cello and violin, but not piano solo, but it's high on the list if/when I return to Rachmaninoff again.

[@emilianocabild0263]

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[@lukemackle9427]

Really excellent. Would love to see a video for Rachmaninov’s ‘Lullaby’.

[@SuzukiAccompaniment]

Beautiful sounding upright. What make?

[@SonataSecrets]

It's a German Rönisch!

[@macanthony1108]

Incredible video!! ....Chopin Ballade no. 1 for 50,000 subscribers???

[@SonataSecrets]

Made it just in time for 30.000 :) kzbin.info/www/bejne/bZzJe6mmhKmWjq8

[@militaryandemergencyservic3286]

great. Can you do one on the op post a minor? Also Schubert's great d 935 number 1? And lastly - Rachmaninov's g maj op 32 prelude? many thanks!

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[@SonataSecrets]

Tyvärr ingen full inspelning på den här...

[@nezkeys79]

Love this piece. Have you heard Makoto Ozone's version of this? Have a listen it's wild 😜

[@mileschapman1406]

Would you consider doing a video on the Chopin Nocturne No1 in Bflat? Or the No7 in C sharp?

[@SonataSecrets]

Yes the B flat is on my repertoire list for the future hopefully, but I haven't played the other C sharp.

[@1001dlee]

I really enjoy your analyses of these kinds of piano works - they're well-done and so insightful! Just out of curiosity (and no pressure), would you be interested in making an analysis video of a piano piece that I recently composed?

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[@nezkeys79]

Alright for "haven't practiced" XD 😆

[@stefanolanza8018]

Just wanted to remind fellow players and music lovers that there is no melody G#-E at the very beginning, no real anacrusis there.

[@shatzescrogum5139]

Don't talk!!! Just play!!!