How To NEVER DIE As A Mage In Dragonflight PvP (KITING + MOBILITY GUIDE)

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[@ynngih725]

Sir, we award you the title of Mage Dev.

[@ynngih725]

In teamwork with Aeghis, of course.

[@ynngih725]

Yes Ven, this was very helpful.

[@justanaveragebalkan]

And if the other side has 2 hunters, you can snare, wall roll on the ground, curse the developers and whatever god you believe in. At the end you will die.

[@CuteFunnyAnimalsTV-yk7hb]

All classes have counters

[@narlee2014]

Nice vid! Greater invis used to be 90% damage reduction but it was in the time when they did pvp nerfs they also carried over to pve. As tech dev got better and they could figure out how to get pvp nerfs in that didn’t affect pve the greater invis issue was long forgotten. For years I’ve harped on them to get it back to 90% in pve and the full 20 sec but it’s still at 60% Prob my favorite spell in the game and at one time was totally epic!

[@timelordthemaster]

Mirror Image + Great Invis together makes 80% reduction of damage

[@wolfster2287]

Amazingly helpful! Thank you so much!

[@Venruki]

You're very welcome!

[@davidgarcia-rv3fs]

I don’t like shimmer because it doesn’t allow to blink away from stuns.

[@javiervillarreal5269]

Nice video, thanks for the upload Ven!! 🙏 Do you think later you could post a video on how to never die irl?

[@user-dq3sh4qj6d]

I wish I could ‘like’ this video 1000x! Great work Ven!

[@andrewpalka5810]

this was super helpful!

[@Venruki]

I'm so glad!

[@lonestar777]

I just started playing Frost Mage and I can't wait to try this. The visuals were a plus!

[@Kozent15]

It was infact helpful. Btw, years ago I won that same Dalaran shirt from one of your giveaways - just like yours, the purple in mine has started to fade quite a bit after nearly 10 years.

[@AZEROTHIANO]

Literaly imortal, blink, backs in time, 2 ice blocks, and refreshs this. Broken solo q.

[@chris01815]

and now combine it with holy pala double sac and double melee bop ...

[@emansfield2017]

I think the idea of time to heal a mage in a way is cool, but it should be only one ice block and it should've been in all of wow

[@RussianPasta]

only frost has two

[@fratermoonguard]

So helpful!! Thank you!!

[@user-tr4ml4nr6m]

You seem to have left out the insane amount of stuns that you can't get out of with shimmer.

[@stevo6178]

That’s blink hehe

[@rambinhuu]

Amazing explanation, thx

[@Wspatch1987]

all good stuff but you also forgot to bring up displacement unless you aren't playing with it, also super powerful

[@deeboot1630]

As BM hunter you still die to my 50 pets no matter how much you try and kite.

[@Lsneaky]

Great video thank you

[@v1llian30]

The council is unhappy that you're sharing secrets.

[@LouisGuidetti]

Extremely Helpful. Thanks

[@BeKindAndHydrate-oz4xi]

Great video. Any tips on DK's? They are the bane of my mage existence.

[@glndopangamer]

do the same as said in the video, they have limited amount of grips and basically no mobility. You should be able to scape at some point.

[@rainy3527]

How does greater invis work? Can you move while invisible? Or do you just stand in place and get a damage reduction?

[@fabiansvarietyshow]

But in what universe does a melee close gap and not have multiple stuns?

[@magdabrownis265]

I’ll have to dust off the magey boy

[@Karyzn]

This helped me realize why i can never catch a good mage in arena 🤣

[@romawka8266]

Thx for this great guide! I've got a question about Ice Nova usage as a frost mage. You sayed it's worth it for root or ice nova into ice lance combo, but what about Ice Nova before the Frost Bomb explode into Ray of Frost or Frost Bomb + Flurry into Comet Storm + Ray and Ice Nova before the explosion of the frost bomb? Is it worth to use or need to keep ice nova for root most of the time? Thank you!

[@djbrianschack4799]

Very helpful. Thanks ruks!

[@silentsolja820]

definitely str8 to the point cheat sheet

[@mIEch77]

Great video. Thanks.

[@eLECHtricity]

Question: What if you're playing ice floes for flexibility?

[@dipsy4005]

Dont

[@brandonc8892]

Phenomenal bro. Thank you

[@Venruki]

My pleasure!

[@Dontknowme81]

Man, I have so many binds as it is, I need to redo them I think. I don’t use blast or slow at all and have nowhere to put them :-(

[@dipsy4005]

How ?

[@johndowland4623]

and each time you use one of those you get hit for 40k by a ""melee"" 10mt away, when you finished using em all you're at 40% hp, with no more ice blocks and all on cooldown. meanwhile shaman, priest, druid, evoker, paladin and dk can fill their hp up, and you're fucked ;)

[@Dontknowme81]

Is there a stream or twitch we can watch this guy on?

[@Gigachach]

VERY HELPFUL!

[@psyonicpanda]

Displacement is also really good for mobility.

[@glndopangamer]

at the time he uploaded the video displace was not the go-to talent.

[@Ell1990]

Thank you.

[@BeKindAndHydrate-oz4xi]

Question on greater invis. Is the advice still the same about holding off on it even if there is a hunter on the opposing team? For, and I'm not that good, going out without invis against a hunter makes the match much more difficult.

[@hpv9406]

Breaking news from the fields of 1900 cr in ss: Pala + war double freedom got me

[@fernandolejarazo7826]

You’ve got dispel

[@Telarius]

Crazy that mages easily kite all melee, dhs, wws dont matter, regardless of skill. Can't tell the dif between r1 mage kiting and duelist, cuz its so forgiving. Just can perma kite them, even low-tier mages kite r1 melee. They just braindead press alter in the opener so they can't counter-pressure. if you dont have a purge ur AOL. Need to prune mage mobility. Ontop of the slow remove, making the very few times you can conncet all but void since you're perma slowed and they just remove thiers. Either remove it, or make fel rush and roll remove slows like it used too.

[@PsyloXT]

You know that alter time can be dispelled ... do you?

[@glndopangamer]

You're delusional to say that duelist and r1 mages are the same in therms of kiting. Also the game's not balanced around 1v1s, which means that a r1 healer will make it possible for their r1 melee teammates to catch a r1 mage at crucial points of the match.

[@Telarius]

There's less of a gap than you realize. The point is that its so over-flooded with mobility, and CDR/Gap wideners that you dont actually need to use the min a good sequence to maximize your kiting of a melee. A low teir mage (2100-2400) can literally use their mobility 50% as good as a R1 mage, and still will end up the same distance away from the target, reset all the cds, blast you away, and do it all again. The main difference comes from a bad arcane mage as an example will do no dps while doing it, while a good one will.@@glndopangamer

[@glndopangamer]

@@Telarius the same way that a 2100-2400 melee can use their mobility 50% (I have no idea where did you get this from) as good as a r1 melee. The game in general is flooded with too much mobility. Eg: ferals, dhs, monks, dks have a billion grips. It's kinda odd to ask only for mage mobility nerfs.

[@Telarius]

The difference is when ranged become untouchable. It becomes a battle between balance. What is a ranged class that only uses 90% instant cast spells? And also more mobility than any melee? I'll tell you. It's a ranged melee. It has all the strengths of a melee (Spam instant casts) But not the downside of requireing to be in in melee range.@@glndopangamer

[@Steezowl]

Make one on mm how do u kiting and using mobility better

[@dilididli2274]

So everytime melees get a new charge, mages get a new escape. Feels like AoE root and blink was more then enough back in the days.

[@keftyq]

how about arena? It is better to use alter time for kiting instead of defense cooldown when healer is in cc?

[@glndopangamer]

alter is a defensive cooldown, and has priority over ice blocks. It's basically game sense, if you can survive with alter alone, just use it.

[@neighboroldwang]

In a small arena (forgot the name), there is only one pillar (not exactly a piller, more like a higher and bigger table), I got chased by a warrior, i got stun almost all the time and couldn't find a time to attack. How to solve this problem...

[@meemigemeemes7875]

As Frost you should have no problem to constantly snare and root only one melee. Even 2 melees are not a real Problem with Double Ice nova and snowdrift PvP talent

[@CuteFunnyAnimalsTV-yk7hb]

​@@meemigemeemes7875 yeah but when u start off its tricky tho

[@patjohnson7967]

Best class ever

[@altazmaul51]

thx

[@frontflippedonce]

sounds cool but in reality you get 4 second stunned and die

[@glndopangamer]

that's why you have a trinket and if it's on cd, ice block, the best defensive cd in the game.

[@sir.willthur5428]

How does this kill other players? It doesn't. This is why I've come to despise this class. its just running away and bsing the enemy but not really killing anyone.

[@ericsantos8432]

Creepy face in thumbnail

[@Lifiron]

Displacement

[@shchoor]

What about displacement? 😂

[@stevo6178]

This comment section is just full of 1400 players that don’t know a damn thing about mages or pvp 😂

[@jadsaadaoui]

What wrong with new player ? You were at 2k1 when you’ve been starting PvP ? Stay humble bro

[@georgidimitrov7652]

completely normal level of mobility on mages, can't keep up on my dh i can't imagine what some immobile dps player is feeling against mages

[@knifetoucher]

Kinda funny how he mentions all of those and still skipped a bunch of other ways to survive/escape like Displacement/IceBlock/Poly/RoFrost/Mirror Images. Mage toolkit is extremely bloated rn, they need to have like 3 of those abilities just straight up deleted or moved to the spec trees instead of class tree.

[@Ziffle5000]

I appreciate your effort here but it’s unrealistically simple. You didn’t mention the million micro CCs, the melee popping immunities to slow, the 3x death grips at 40 yards, going against more than one target etc. Sadly this is a common theme among pro players.

[@glndopangamer]

do as he said in the video, no matter what class the enemy team is playing, even dks and feral druids, you should be able to see some success.

[@Warried]

also displacement lmao.

[@Noverias]

Who even balances this game in pvp… nerfs that don’t make sense, buffs that aren’t called for, and classes that need nerfed don’t get touched.. Then when they do “balance” it’s drastic changes instead of subtle changes over time to see how it affects game play. Seasons are 6 months.. small changes could be done each week to adjust for balance

[@josevasquezlopez4281]

And this is ok? xD

[@frankliu2209]

Hunter counter mage😂

[@Shadowb4n]

And you've done 0 damage in the meantime whereas a Lock/SP with much better CC is leagues ahead. Caster vs. Meelee balance nowadays is a joke and should be reworked.

[@boogz1725]

i never die as a mage because ive quit playing this trashcan of a game lol

[@Venruki]

if you arent having fun with a game its good to take a break or quit, good luck and enjoy something new!

[@boogz1725]

@@Venruki come on man, tell me in an asshole. i wont judge

[@NoName-nn8lj]

Pvp dev 🙇‍♂️ what a joke pvp has come 😖