Ventless Gas Heaters, 7 Tips You Need to Know

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@allscanengineering610
@allscanengineering610 3 жыл бұрын
dust and dirt will be orange with speckles in it, not yellow. yellow is unburn gases which will produce CO and soot. This is a cause of gas & air mixture not right, having the heater over carpet is not good as carpet holds dust and dirt and the air going to the burner and pilot comes from that location. Ventfree furnaces have large open flames and fire has moisture in it and that is (1) reason you need to keep an window open very little near an ventfree furnace along with needing oxygen to operate the burner and pilot, (why they all have ODS pilots) and not regular gas LP or Nat orifices. Ventfree furnace burner and pilot flames need to be watched for an even blue to light blue flames, light blue flames will be closer to the burner surface to 1/4" from the ports and darker blue flames will be 1/4" to 1" above the burner ports. Ventfree furnace need to to cleaned with a damp (not wet) rag or sponge that will not fall apart and nothing esle. This will be done often when using them in the season (make sure they are cooled down before Ever touching). If you ever remove the pilot it is very important that the pilots go back in the same way most are at 22 degree angle always check your manufactur spec. Never stick anything into the pilots and burner orifice as they mostly all have ruby orifice centers in them for the heat and continuous operation. Never use a ceiling fan or anyother fan around ventfree furnace as it can change the airflow mixture.
@homesteadknowhow
@homesteadknowhow 3 жыл бұрын
That's an important distinction.
@geraldcampbell8206
@geraldcampbell8206 3 жыл бұрын
@John-771
@John-771 2 жыл бұрын
Ventless heaters are junk. Puts too much water vapor in the air promoting mold. Pet hair and dust also help it put out CO. Save a little more and get a vented one.
@allscanengineering610
@allscanengineering610 2 жыл бұрын
@@John-771 these heaters are really only for supplement heating only. But too many people use these as complete home heating which should never be done just for these reasons.
@skipdegraff6547
@skipdegraff6547 2 жыл бұрын
Running off propane is better or no
@1RComyn
@1RComyn Жыл бұрын
I recommend a dehumidifier for moisture issues. I live in a 40ft travel trailer in the forest. We have dehumidifiers in all of our sheds and campers. No more mold or condensation. 😊
@kibblenbits
@kibblenbits 2 жыл бұрын
I live in Northern MI and have the radiant Mr Heater 30k BTU ventless (my home is about 1k sq ft). This past fall I had it connected to the 500 gallon propane tank in my yard, so I'll still have heat in case of a power outage just by turning it on, and tapping into the big tank is a game changer! I've also got 2 Big Buddy's (that I used before getting the 30k heater) and many 20 and 100 pound propane tanks in the pole barn, with filters (for the 20 pound tanks) and two stage regulators (for the 100 pound tanks), along with 2 kerosene heaters and many 5 gallon cans of kerosene (I've use kerosene for over 40 years as a backup, but am relatively new to these propane heaters). I'm in my 70's, 5'2", so these all work better for me than dealing with wood. The peace of mind these heaters give make them worth their weight in gold! I've watched all your video's on problem solving with the heaters and thank you very much!
@sissymurphy9620
@sissymurphy9620 Жыл бұрын
my brother works for Ford up there and he can't wait t retire and leave . He went up there after the Ford plant closed in NJ . You are smart , My neighbors had a bigger tank installed propane fireplace and and range and another propane heat in basement and family room . I am putting mine in my basement . After loosing power in epic ice storm in VA for 10 days and worrying about pipes freezing I am not taking any chances again either . Funny so far this winter has been in 50's and 60's so i am getting yard work done early My eco fan is the best thing ever in front of my propane heater dyna glo
@vocals1111
@vocals1111 21 күн бұрын
​@@sissymurphy9620What kind of fan do you use, someone said don't use them?
@suzanfeldman5188
@suzanfeldman5188 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for helping this single mom fix my ventless heater!!
@duanebledsoe7566
@duanebledsoe7566 14 күн бұрын
I am so happy that you made this video! I have one of these heaters in my garage. Yesterday I sprayed some garage door lubricant on the rollers. Within an hour I was smelling a very noxious odor and I noticed that the flames of my heater were yellow and blue mixed. I thought something was wrong, maybe leaking gas or something. I turned it off and let it sit overnight and the odor cleared. I turned it back on but I was afraid to leave it running so I went online to see how to service it and found this video. I’m betting that the problem was where I sprayed that lubricant. It was right over top of the heater. Guess that wasn’t the best idea, but at least I know what happened now. Thank you!
@biglarge5056
@biglarge5056 Жыл бұрын
I love how he said his windows had condensation, but it was also bath night. His tips was great though. Liked the video!
@MarkSparks-xd9yy
@MarkSparks-xd9yy 11 ай бұрын
Just like Christmas & Easter you can count on Bath Night to happen every year. Mark your calendar.
@roberto.peterson9917
@roberto.peterson9917 6 ай бұрын
these heater create humidity this is no joke humidifier a must if you plan to use as main heat source
@sirjohndoeofpa3292
@sirjohndoeofpa3292 3 жыл бұрын
These heaters are worth every penny. We have 2 in our house. In case of a power outage, you still have heat source
@craigslist474
@craigslist474 Жыл бұрын
Great info! Never knew a couple of these and I've been heating my home with 2 of these ventless natural gas heaters ever since my furnace quit, 10-15 years ago. Thx! 👍 Added--None of those issues so far, but now if one of these happen, I won't freak out! :D
@ekaybeane
@ekaybeane Ай бұрын
My furnace just went out. I've been using one for a week. Do I need a window open for safety? It is a smaller one and it's heating 2 larger rooms, sm bathroom. Tks.
@scottwebber652
@scottwebber652 Жыл бұрын
Good info. I need to find that pilot cleaning vid. I cant get any gas out of pilot orfice
@kimmer6
@kimmer6 3 жыл бұрын
Ventless gas heaters cannot be shipped to California. That's OK, I have a pile of old car tires to burn when the SHTF.
@skipdegraff6547
@skipdegraff6547 2 жыл бұрын
Ship to cousins outta state and have them send it to you or go visit them
@kimmer6
@kimmer6 2 жыл бұрын
@@skipdegraff6547 Nearest cousin 2800 miles away. The biggest concern is that the insurance company can refuse my claim if the house burned down for any reason because I had ''illegal'' equipment installed.
@justinberry3991
@justinberry3991 2 жыл бұрын
You live in CA? Burn them now lol
@kimmer6
@kimmer6 2 жыл бұрын
@@justinberry3991 33 inch off roaders already cut up into convenient pieces.
@justinberry3991
@justinberry3991 2 жыл бұрын
I heard they give the death penalty for that much pollution. Wait, that can't be right, they're against the death penalty lol
@klaramelamedmusicchannel6184
@klaramelamedmusicchannel6184 5 күн бұрын
Thanks for video! Can I use it in car Honda Odessey 2006?
@TheCookster64
@TheCookster64 3 жыл бұрын
I have one of these in a mobile home on my vacation property, it came with it and it's legal for that purpose. I fired it up for the first time today. It needs to be cleaned as the pilot light is burning orange instead of blue and goes out. I'm going to clean it as recommended tomorrow. It puts out major heat and I love how it will maintain the setting over time. Very cool! No worries about Oxygen, the mobile home isn't tight (yet). It's being fed by a large propane tank the previous owner bought outright. Thank you for this video. Thanks to you and others I've learned a lot! The manual for these are available on the internet. I have a Mr. Heater 30,000 BTU model.
@johngross688
@johngross688 3 жыл бұрын
I have same heater live in az desert maxium dust area lol. Just beat on it knocks dust out works fine i have to do this bout 1 a year.dont take it apart dont waste all that,, close your hand into a fist qnd bang on it.... lol
@TheCookster64
@TheCookster64 3 жыл бұрын
@@johngross688 Since my post I've been running it unattended on the first setting and it's working out well. I trust the sensors in the unit. I cleaned it all out with a can of compressed air. Very happy with the unit.
@trudycarter4865
@trudycarter4865 3 жыл бұрын
Hello...nervous about buying my first ventless heater. Great tips...made me less anxious. Will be watching all of your videos. Tyvm. .
@wwivbread
@wwivbread 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much. The detailed view in the video and the method with explanations was just right on the money. It took about fifteen minutes to remove panels, clean gas outlet and thermocouple, replace panels, and the pilot light is staying lit now.
@jepsdog3859
@jepsdog3859 3 жыл бұрын
I have a 12x24 shed that is insulated, my windows got quite wet last winter like you were taking about, so I put the plastic stretch tape on insulator stuff on the inside of the window frames and that took care of the wet problem. By keeping the warm off the colder outside window it doesn’t condensate therefore staying clear and dry 😉
@homesteadknowhow
@homesteadknowhow 3 жыл бұрын
I have several single pane windows in my home. The plastic sheet helps a lot, but I could hardly get the thing to stay on the window for more than a few days.
@bobhoffman5581
@bobhoffman5581 3 жыл бұрын
@@homesteadknowhow Double pane windows would prevent that, and keep your heating bill down. lol
@boostedbadboyzx12r31
@boostedbadboyzx12r31 2 жыл бұрын
Enjoy your she shed lol 😉
@MrRon72718
@MrRon72718 3 жыл бұрын
I have experienced almost all of these issue recently. Actually very simple fixes. I wish I had watched this before they happened. THANK YOU for addressing these.
@sheridansplace1607
@sheridansplace1607 2 жыл бұрын
Can you explain the fixes?
@MrRon72718
@MrRon72718 2 жыл бұрын
@@sheridansplace1607 remove front cover and clean. Screws are on sides.
@opencarrysherry
@opencarrysherry 2 жыл бұрын
What could be the issue when it first comes on and the flame is to high? As in higher than the unit around 1-2”
@opencarrysherry
@opencarrysherry 2 жыл бұрын
@@user-yf2iv1rt7l well, called mr. heater and they sent a replacement… we first sent them our unit and had the replacement sent to us within the same week . The company was very helpful. And yes the flames came out around a few inches taller than the heater.
@opencarrysherry
@opencarrysherry 2 жыл бұрын
@@user-yf2iv1rt7l I haven’t heard of dyna-glo… (dyna-glo maybe related to bluegrass?) we bought one from bluegrass because I wanted the black color….it had problems …Bluegrass doesn’t answer phones or email so we went back to mr.heater….we keep it on the first setting and keeps an open floor plan house of around 1500sqft warm, still we wear warm clothes as we are not trying to burn thru the propane!( we have the 30000 btu propane) definitely buy the blower!
@johnkurczeski6851
@johnkurczeski6851 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, I run my 30k btu mr heat on 2 40 gal tanks. When they get close to empty it stinks , the rotten egg smell , is this just a fact of life running this type of heater.
@dreamingcode
@dreamingcode 8 күн бұрын
Great video. Can I leave the pilot light on?
@homesteadknowhow
@homesteadknowhow 6 күн бұрын
Not while cleaning it.
@ledheadkustomplastic3442
@ledheadkustomplastic3442 3 жыл бұрын
Learned all that the hard way. Lol, I'm not stupid just a little slow. Glad you are helping others out. 😊👍🇺🇸
@tomcabrera8223
@tomcabrera8223 2 жыл бұрын
Got down to 6 degrees last night and it is Christmas Eve and it usually heats our birds room . Thanks for your post that enabled me to get back running with just a screwdriver and canned air.
@edwardmmanns7454
@edwardmmanns7454 Жыл бұрын
Very concise...thanks. And yes, sprays are a problem ... happy wife, etc.
@billmeade9029
@billmeade9029 2 жыл бұрын
Do you or would you recommend a propane gas filter before the heater ?
@homesteadknowhow
@homesteadknowhow 2 жыл бұрын
I don't have one, but it's not a bad idea.
@grominwithrob1339
@grominwithrob1339 11 ай бұрын
I used to work as a small engine mechanic in Central Michigan. I used to clean these all the time because people stored them in dirty garages and basements. There is also a type of spider that will build nests in the gas line.
@homesteadknowhow
@homesteadknowhow 11 ай бұрын
I hate working on small engines. I never learned how to do it properly and it never goes well. I'm over on the west side of the mitten.
@rutniktrainer
@rutniktrainer 3 жыл бұрын
I have had one for years. I never had any problems with it other than the striker not sparking. That problem happened when it was new. Now that it's been used it works fine.
@verdagarner5112
@verdagarner5112 3 жыл бұрын
I use a ceiling fan I hope it helps keep the moisture down.
@williammacdonald2948
@williammacdonald2948 10 күн бұрын
5 years ago I mounted my ventless propane heater to the wall and built a faux mantle around the top and sides of the heater, the front of the mantle (under the heater) is screened. I have never experienced any of the problems mentioned in this video. Maybe the heater does better when it isn’t on the floor?
@maryranch5329
@maryranch5329 3 жыл бұрын
Homesteading Northern Michigan sent me to your channel...great information...you now have a new subscriber 👍😁
@homesteadknowhow
@homesteadknowhow 3 жыл бұрын
Good to know my content is useful. Right now, I'm working on more rabbit videos and planning my spring gardening videos.
@wendellhammond7853
@wendellhammond7853 Жыл бұрын
Good video . Good on screan personality.
@marcos_bm13
@marcos_bm13 Жыл бұрын
Thank you. This is very informative. Looking into getting one of these to replace an old Siegler in an apartment.
@homesteadknowhow
@homesteadknowhow Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@zooba1974
@zooba1974 11 ай бұрын
Great tips! Thank you so much!!
@PutYurChangeIn
@PutYurChangeIn Жыл бұрын
Please help! I have a gas ventless heater that won't light. I changed out the thermocouple/ ignitor and cleaned the unit but it still won't light. I lit it with a lighter manually but it only ran for about 45 seconds. Any suggestions?
@rabidsnypr
@rabidsnypr Жыл бұрын
Mine doesn't have a blower. I wiah you would link the other videos in the description of this one. Mine is gonna need cleaned soon
@jetv1471
@jetv1471 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you SO MUCH! We just as the odors issue the other day and we’re concerned !,, thanks to ur video we now know the reason … hubs used varnish in the basement . Phew thanks !
@naubaucat
@naubaucat 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the helpful info. I just bought one for the basement, and this helps.
@jayhunter4913
@jayhunter4913 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for Input and Comments! Looking at a VentLess insert for myself. This was great info especially the consideration point? Thanks Again Have a Great One!
@josephthibault672
@josephthibault672 2 жыл бұрын
I have two one in a two room living room .. rooms are 12x12 with 10ft high ceiling and two ceiling fans .. I always set it to 3 and both rooms get warm fast ceiling fans on low and in reverse.. before I start the heater for the winter season.. I vacuum all the vent holes and clean the pilot tip .. the other one I have in basement I only turn that one on when temps get below in the teens so pipes don’t freeze and that one’s in a open basement no rooms
@spyder3691
@spyder3691 3 жыл бұрын
This was an amazing video and a huge help! I just recently bought a house and it came with this heater so the 7 tips were extremely helpful! Mine def needs a cleaning. I was wondering when I set the heater to setting 1 or 2 it kicks on and off, is this normal? Between cycles the pilot stays on and there is no gas smell. Just want to be sure for safety. Thanks!
@sumyunguy777
@sumyunguy777 Жыл бұрын
I know it's a year later after your question, but yes. It is normal to kick on and off on setting 1 or 2 with the pilot light continuing to stay on. I'm sure you figured it out already, just thought I would help. Take care.
@c.jbowen2461
@c.jbowen2461 2 жыл бұрын
Will these things work at 9,000ft altitude?
@homesteadknowhow
@homesteadknowhow 2 жыл бұрын
Not really, at least, there's not supposed to. They are made to be very fussy about oxygen levels (for safety) and aren't supposed to be used much higher than 3,000 feet.
@keithinaz9769
@keithinaz9769 Жыл бұрын
We are off grid a year now at 7,000 ft elevation, in a travel trailer. I am building a few tiny houses now. We used Buddy Heaters, which are ventless, and had no problems. We cracked a few windows, and have small fans mounted high to blow the warmer air back down, and around. Also, importantly, we have several Snake/Sword plants that not only provide ALOT extra oxygen, but also consume some of the potential carbon dioxide/monoxide people are concerned about. Remember that they are houseplants, dont let it get too cold, none of ours died. No problems at all, it was our only heat source. Pretty sure our travel trailer isn't a 4 season model, and we were very comfortable. Propane is getting expensive so stock up! Electric heat, from solar, and a small wood heat source will make for 3 seperate heat sources. Extra foam insulation always helps too. Just bought the Mr. Heater 20k BTU heater, and got a great price because it's summer now. These things work great! You can always use it outside on the patio if you are afraid of using it indoors. Hope my review helps!
@jonnseigler4037
@jonnseigler4037 2 жыл бұрын
Hi could you tell me what brand heater that is and can you use a 20lb tank . Thanks
@genewileyopa
@genewileyopa 3 жыл бұрын
I put one of those in my shop. Worked great, no problems-until I started cleaning with chemicals or welding. Then the smells got so bad, I quit using it. It's like new, but not going to use it again. I had good ventilation and it still stink's. Thanks for sharing Iowa is watching :) Happy Thanksgiving everyone :)
@Progrocker70
@Progrocker70 3 жыл бұрын
Yep exact same issues I had. All of the chemical vapors in the air hit the open flames and are combusting, creating more toxic vapors that permeate the room. The smell is unbearable and I can't imagine what's in that stew of burning toxic chemicals that you are breathing. I kept the heater but I'd only use it as a back up for emergencies.
@-gomez1723
@-gomez1723 3 жыл бұрын
Are you selling it by chance? I want to get one for my garage, I'll normally use it for my gym...i also live in Iowa! Lol
@genewileyopa
@genewileyopa 3 жыл бұрын
@@-gomez1723 It's a Remington 30,000 BTU propane. Used very little.
@djscottymaxx
@djscottymaxx Жыл бұрын
I wish more people would stop bullshitting on the safeness of these things, its VENTLESS, which common sense tells you that the fumes will accumulate and you will breathe them eventually effecting your health. Not worth it to me just my opinion
@Cyberhacker3
@Cyberhacker3 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you , this was very helpful. im thinking about getting 2 of these heaters in case something goes wrong with my normal heat ,, i allready have a few peopane tanks stored for my generator , i'll have to add some more if i go this route.
@homesteadknowhow
@homesteadknowhow 3 жыл бұрын
I heated my home with one and a 20 pound propane tank for 2 weeks one February. I didn't turn it up much, but it was bearable and my pipes didn't freeze
@chadlove3443
@chadlove3443 3 жыл бұрын
I'm using the Bluegrass Living one (which is very attractive unlike the other brands) and it's very cheap to operate. My house was built in 1935 and it 640 sqft. I have to infrared model and it works so well. I have not died from not having it vented outside. The worst part was the first week when it stunk so bad and would make it hard to breathe, but after it burned off all that it was fine. Now it only stinks for the first 2 days every year when I start using it, but it doesn't stink like it did when it was brand new for a week. After it stops stinking, you more or less have a chlorine pool smell a little bit, but it's not bad at all.
@meffamass252
@meffamass252 2 жыл бұрын
Poverty makes you use these dangerous heaters
@uncklefrankmoore4540
@uncklefrankmoore4540 2 жыл бұрын
@@meffamass252 I see what you are saying. We put one in our guest house. Even tho it does exactly what a $4900 hvac unit would have cost to have installed. But your saying poverty is why folks but these heaters. So in your eyes We should have been out the $4900 huh. Just to say that we aren't poor?! What profit a man who is a fool w his money? U Ever heard that? Dude rethink your thinking.. and be mindful of how you do or do not process words.
@nunyabusiness3082
@nunyabusiness3082 2 жыл бұрын
@@meffamass252 works great during a blizzard and the powers out. Enjoy your clean electric heat pump when your power is out and there is -50 wind chill.
@TKO-NY
@TKO-NY 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for the vid. Maybe you can give me some more insight. In approx a 30x30 shop, insulated, drywalled, concrete floor, I run a Mr.Heater ventless. Been fine all winter. Last 2 times I used it, which was days after staining, it smelled like Kerosene majorly, and left a light haze in the air. Upon finding your video, the fact that I had stained a table in here on 2 different occasions, explained the odor. I've taken the face off, blew out the burner well. Wiped everything down, all clean and shiny. Just fired it up, and smelling the air its giving out above it, still smells of kerosene. Havent had it running long yet (10 mins) if the odor should continue, any other suggestions? Not poisonous, right? I've got a nice blue flame with minimal flames of orange. Appreciate any intel. Will be the last time staining/painting out here with it running, thats for sure.
@homesteadknowhow
@homesteadknowhow 8 ай бұрын
Stains and paints can offgass heavily for days or weeks when freshly applied. That's probably the issue. It's not bad, but you might consider some extra ventilation for a bit.
@TKO-NY
@TKO-NY 8 ай бұрын
@@homesteadknowhow thanks, appreciate it!
@maggiegibson8242
@maggiegibson8242 Жыл бұрын
I'm puzzled...we hooked up a procom 10000btu propane heater and have the kitchen window cracked in the kitchen behind it and have no carpet and it keeps burning orange. We took an air hose and using small bursts of air, blew out the inside and got all the dirt and dust out. We have a 2 step regulator on a 100lb tank and have used these heaters before when we lived in TN last yr. Were now in IN. Any suggestions? Thanks
@leodannyportal
@leodannyportal 2 жыл бұрын
Great video but you forgot to mention that dehumidifiers solve the humidity issue. I like my kitchen in the winter at 72 and on very cold days (ie 20 degrees Fahrenheit) my kitchen windows will definitely fog up and the dehumidifiers always solves this issue. Just like it does in the bathroom when one takes a very hot shower on a cold day. Dehumidifiers are the solution to indoor moisture.
@homesteadknowhow
@homesteadknowhow 2 жыл бұрын
Good point!
@mikebond6328
@mikebond6328 Жыл бұрын
It’s funny that you think 20*F is very cold 😂 .
@psychomondolizard
@psychomondolizard 3 жыл бұрын
We have one blue flame and when it's dirty makes that diesel stink. Vacuumed or blow out dust helps. We just bought a catalytic orange flame one for the other room. I like it better. Keep the windows open a little.
@donnyovercast3559
@donnyovercast3559 Жыл бұрын
Do you still get the condensation issue if youre going to convert to natural gas?
@homesteadknowhow
@homesteadknowhow Жыл бұрын
It's just a result of a hotter, cleaner burning gas heater.
@donnyovercast3559
@donnyovercast3559 Жыл бұрын
@@homesteadknowhow right. You were talking about condensation using the propane. Do you still get condensation using natural gas?
@homesteadknowhow
@homesteadknowhow Жыл бұрын
@@donnyovercast3559 it's the same
@peterfettig8666
@peterfettig8666 Жыл бұрын
I'm building a garage in NW Wisconsin with a bonus room above. I want to keep the garage at about 45 or so all the time and then turn it up to 70 when I'm in there working. Is this something I could leave on all winter to keep it reasonable in there?
@homesteadknowhow
@homesteadknowhow Жыл бұрын
It should do for that. I use mine as a primary heat source for my whole home from November to March.
@joescola7498
@joescola7498 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks that worked perfectly for me on my livingroom fireplace!
@julianrivera20
@julianrivera20 2 жыл бұрын
You’re a smart man nice video 👌👌👏👏
@rando1818
@rando1818 Жыл бұрын
My Mr Heater ventless I’ll start but shortly after it will go out in a huge poof. I thought it might be air in the line. Tried to purge it, but it still poofs out. Any suggestion ? Thanks. God Bless you.
@homesteadknowhow
@homesteadknowhow Жыл бұрын
Make sure the unit is clean inside. Dust can do that. Be sure the fan is not running while you are lighting. Also, you may be able to very slightly bend the pilot so the flame is ever so slightly closer to the burner. That's what I did when mine was poofing.
@rando1818
@rando1818 Жыл бұрын
@@homesteadknowhow Thanks for the quick reply. Should I use a vacuum on it? My heater is different than your’s. It’s the MMHVFRD30NGT. IT does not have the flame running horizontally across the bottom of the heater. It is similar to my Big Buddy heater but not ceramic. Hope that makes sense. Thanks for all of your help.
@lynnjones185
@lynnjones185 26 күн бұрын
Will the blower stay on or go on an off.
@homesteadknowhow
@homesteadknowhow 26 күн бұрын
Mine has a setting for both.
@mariandicus3676
@mariandicus3676 3 жыл бұрын
we got a older gas heater that we got from my uncle we turn it off during the summer and every winter we have to have someone light the pilot light with a blow torch. What can we do that we don't have have them come out every year and save money?
@homesteadknowhow
@homesteadknowhow 3 жыл бұрын
It's very easy to light a pilot. They make extra long matches just for that. You usually have to open a little window, or take off a small cover to access it
@nescafe5308
@nescafe5308 2 жыл бұрын
Great tips. Do got one question tho. When have heater on the flame is a clear blue but off and on the flame gets kinda like a bit of glowing blue like flame that flickers around, is that like from air or dust? Its a vent free gas wall heater
@homesteadknowhow
@homesteadknowhow 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like dust to me.
@melissaupshaw4407
@melissaupshaw4407 10 ай бұрын
Does it run your gas bill up if you turn it off and on all the time? What’s the best way to keep your bill low with gas wall heaters?
@homesteadknowhow
@homesteadknowhow 10 ай бұрын
It doesn't use extra gas when turning off and on The only ways to use less fuel is to turn dowm the thermostat and cut down on drafts if possible.
@sherececocco
@sherececocco Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your energy!
@vigilantobserver8389
@vigilantobserver8389 3 жыл бұрын
This is the second great video, on the ventless heater, I've watched. Thanks, I subscribed! When you get it out of storage, would zapping it with compressed air be a good idea? I saw your vid. about cleaning the nozzle. Would wrapping the nozzle and thermocouple with cellophane help keep it clean?
@jeubby5614
@jeubby5614 3 жыл бұрын
@Northern Homesteading; Thank you so much for your informative videos on this subject; VERY helpful/informative. Great Job!
@lolablevins5775
@lolablevins5775 Жыл бұрын
How do you keep house smelling good whenever you can't spray house spray rgej
@bome4691
@bome4691 3 жыл бұрын
Do all ventless heaters have these issues? What brand do you own? How do the ceramic infrared heaters compare to the blue flame heaters? Thanks.
@Progrocker70
@Progrocker70 3 жыл бұрын
I've had both. The blue flame models heat the room's air in a similar way that forced air heat does. The ceramic infrared heaters heat the objects in the room. It's more of a radiant heat like what you would feel on a sunny cold day standing in the sunshine. You will feel an instant warmth in the presence of a radiant heater. They work in uninsulated spaces much better than blue flame. Unfortunately with both types I had these issues. They are unvented so all the combustion particles fill up the space.
@ekitching
@ekitching 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the good tips. I have a Mr. heater 36K btu unit that I stored outside during the summer. Now I can't get the pilot to light. Same thing happened with my previous heater. Will try to clean it. This heater works great for my living room. I keep the fireplace flu opened for air and I have carbon monoxide alarms installed.
@louisevaughan2165
@louisevaughan2165 3 жыл бұрын
Clean ALL the lines not just the pilot light. I have had the same problem during the summer & started , vacuuming the entire unit very well used duct tape to cover the large lines & found a plastic "cap" to gently put over the pilot light then covered in a heavy duty garbage bag . It ended the issue you are having now . I know this sounds OCD but not many of us can afford to buy a new 1 every yr because they are not cheap.
@ekitching
@ekitching 3 жыл бұрын
Well the same day I saw this video it inspired me to work on the heater. 4 screws front cover came off. Cleaned everything with a vacuum, rag, and hosed down the front cover because it was pretty dirty. Inside of heater looked new. I took that flare fitting and line off the pilot (with a flare wrench) and also that small thread to flare adaptor which has a tiny hole, similar to a carburetor jet. That fitting was plugged with a small piece of dirt. Cleaned that and bingo, it's running perfect now. Took me about an hour. You're right, these units have gone way up in price, Amazon wants like $350.
@louisevaughan2165
@louisevaughan2165 3 жыл бұрын
@@ekitching Oh I am not talking about Amazon , even the local sales are that high.
@bobhoffman5581
@bobhoffman5581 3 жыл бұрын
@@ekitching My Empire unit, purchased in 2007, 30,000 btu's, was $300. I've seen that they run $500 now. Northern Michigan resident here...
@ekitching
@ekitching 3 жыл бұрын
I checked to see how much I paid for this unit, which is a 30K not 36K btu. I purchased it on ebay back in 2019 for $204. Now the same heater is $322. Wow, what happened? how come the prices are way higher now?
@markoharoldoronearmedpoohb7816
@markoharoldoronearmedpoohb7816 3 жыл бұрын
My tips, if you need to have great control over the amount of heat needed, get a Open Flame like the one in the video, you can turn then down very low, whereas a heater that is a Radiant heater, you have setting, Low, Medium, High, low for many is too hot sometimes, so you cycle on, off, PITA. Also keep in mind between the spring and fall when the heaters not in use, spiders love to build webs in or around your pilot light, always look and clean before using in the fall. My last is in very well built homes that are insulated very well, need a little draft/air movement in the house, fire burns oxygen, that oxygen needs to be replenished, that’s why some people get a funny smell, I believe the air is more Burnt, then fresh, this really becomes true in some homes, and wood burning stoves, some folks can’t get their wood stoves to light very well, they just can’t get the fire burning well, it’s because it can’t get enough air to draft right, open a window slightly while firing up the stove, once running and you got good coals, close the window. When running our wood stove, I do keep a cracked window close to the stove.
@louisevaughan2165
@louisevaughan2165 3 жыл бұрын
They now make the radiant 1s with a better control , ie 1 thru 10 , settings . The radiant isore efficient in my opinion than the blue flame heaters . Also it is harder for a child to start a fire or your pet to get singed or be a racing flame thrower with a radiant. That is not to say those things will not happen just not as easily . I have had both the open blue flame & the radiant heaters & have learned the pros & cons of both & prefer the radiant heaters as far as safety is concerned .
@NemScott
@NemScott Жыл бұрын
I got a 3 row one that's around 21 years old not sure whats wrong with it. The pilot light works perfect and is blue stays on no problem. The only thing is the first 2 rows burn good and the 3rd one tries to burn but pops then tries to burn again and keeps poping out. Maybe air in the line im not sure ive blew it out with air compressor for around 15 minutes. It's hooked to a 100lb tank with a regulator. Any suggestions appreciated thanks.
@homesteadknowhow
@homesteadknowhow Жыл бұрын
I bet the burner is just getting old.
@NemScott
@NemScott Жыл бұрын
Thanks for reply it's doing a little better maybe a little air in line or something not sure but it's burning now but it's had better years lol. Time for a new heater for sure hope to squeeze one more winter outta it :)@@homesteadknowhow
@OG-Ghost33
@OG-Ghost33 2 жыл бұрын
My pilot light stays lit but when I turn up the thermostat for it to turn on it does a minimal Burst flame which just does very small flickering flame across the bar but then blows out along with the pilot light? Any idea? This thing is brand new and has not been used but a few hours
@411adaptivegolf
@411adaptivegolf 3 жыл бұрын
Mid Michigan thumbilly here! Just gained a sub brother!
@homesteadknowhow
@homesteadknowhow 3 жыл бұрын
Where abouts?
@thankswillie
@thankswillie 3 жыл бұрын
good info,can you explain the ods
@homesteadknowhow
@homesteadknowhow 3 жыл бұрын
The ODS is just a hyper sensitive pressure switch. It shuts off the gas when the weight of the air indicates slightly low oxygen.
@thankswillie
@thankswillie 3 жыл бұрын
@@homesteadknowhow whats it look like?
@greyjay9202
@greyjay9202 3 жыл бұрын
These units require adequate fresh air for proper combustion and user safety. Be sure to follow the instructions in the owner's manual, regarding combustion air and correct heater sizing for the space you intend to heat. If excess condensation forms on windows and walls, you'll need to provide more fresh air for the indoor space.
@BobSmith-vj5kz
@BobSmith-vj5kz 3 жыл бұрын
...how is that going to prevent condensation?
@sissymurphy9620
@sissymurphy9620 Жыл бұрын
question what is really the big differnc between blue flame , orange flame and radient . is one safer than the other . I have radient one
@kaohsiung99
@kaohsiung99 11 ай бұрын
air --- cold air is usually dry @@BobSmith-vj5kz
@uhmgawa1435
@uhmgawa1435 Жыл бұрын
@7:36 bath NIGHT? Second weekend of the month whether we need it or not..
@desmondsawyer1471
@desmondsawyer1471 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info Jordy!
@philiplowry5971
@philiplowry5971 2 жыл бұрын
Does the propane ones do the same????
@TheLolacat1
@TheLolacat1 Жыл бұрын
thankyou for this video..
@sirjohndoeofpa3292
@sirjohndoeofpa3292 3 жыл бұрын
I love this channel!!!!
@dannybetts6929
@dannybetts6929 2 жыл бұрын
Cool!!👍. I have one just like yours to in the video.never used it yet its still in the box but recently thinking about installing it for shit hits the fan stuff.I'll buy a tank like a hundred gallon one to hook up to it outside👍😁
@MrBubbahunt9
@MrBubbahunt9 2 жыл бұрын
I have a relative who heats his home with a similar heater ..his ac unit is in the attic( which is really cold in the winter) and the moist hot air was going up through the return vent and the condensation got to the circuit board and caused rust then in the spring when the ac was tuned on the board burnt up..he ended up blocking the return vent the following fall to stop the rusting...just something to think about...
@LifeandLifeMoreAbundantly
@LifeandLifeMoreAbundantly Жыл бұрын
the gas tube has a low flame across it when the temp is reached on settings 1-4. should I only see the pilot flame at that point?
@homesteadknowhow
@homesteadknowhow Жыл бұрын
Sometimes a low flame lingers a bit after it shuts off. Ideally, it should not go for long.
@LifeandLifeMoreAbundantly
@LifeandLifeMoreAbundantly Жыл бұрын
@@homesteadknowhow thank you 🙏. Merry Christmas!
@jaykeeton2172
@jaykeeton2172 2 жыл бұрын
What would cause it to have a weak flame and pilot light but still burns and does have some light yellow in the flames
@homesteadknowhow
@homesteadknowhow 2 жыл бұрын
If you're running on propane, go check the gas percentage on the gauge.
@jaykeeton2172
@jaykeeton2172 2 жыл бұрын
@@homesteadknowhow it was a full tank I think it could have been the cold we have been having it seemed to freeze up the regulator
@dustyroads834
@dustyroads834 2 жыл бұрын
I had one of these in my living room just for heat when the power goes out. I had every problem you described with it especially the odd smell. I never trusted it. Eventually my wife wanted a vent free gas fireplace. I told her no way. ( no place for a vent). She got her way of course. Put it in and absolutely no problems. The flame is more orange than Blue ?? That doesn’t seem right but all good.
@Vstromxt
@Vstromxt 2 жыл бұрын
They heat well are pretty cheap to buy and run the only drawback for me is they cause mold. They create a lot of moisture. If you have one in your home you will need a few dehumidifiers.
@ebberjr3924
@ebberjr3924 3 жыл бұрын
Very nice presentation.
@homesteadknowhow
@homesteadknowhow 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@tomvincent3598
@tomvincent3598 Жыл бұрын
I was hopeing to find something about your propane supply set up. I have watched many utube videos they all say you can use 60 or 100lb tanks but all of them use 25lbs and never show the setup for larger tanks..Was hopeing you use large cylinders and exoplain that..If you allready have i just could not find it. I am going to my camp in a few weeks and have the heater and buddy heater valve conneaction set. It is 20-30 below here so i dont want to freeze. Camp is uninsulated waitin to be finished.
@homesteadknowhow
@homesteadknowhow Жыл бұрын
I have a 300 gallon tank. I spliced into the main gas line (a 3/8 ish cover pipe) and ran a line to the heater. Attach the matching gas fitting, flare the end of the pipe, and connect that bugger
@tomvincent3598
@tomvincent3598 Жыл бұрын
@@homesteadknowhow the cover pipe is that a standard black pipe or galvanized pipe ? Is a pressure regulator required to lower the pressure....what do you think ? I was going to run a hose threw the wall so i could move it about while working ....
@tomvincent3598
@tomvincent3598 Жыл бұрын
thanks for takeing the time to help me....
@JudiChristopher
@JudiChristopher 3 жыл бұрын
Great Information... Thank you for sharing this video.
@lura3353
@lura3353 2 жыл бұрын
Recently my heater, s÷ms to have a leak. It has plenty of propane still in the tank, usually when I'm about out if propane I'll start smells alittle propane, but it's now doing it especially when the flames cut down to the pilot or I put it down to pilot because of room temperature and last 3-4 times I actually hear what I think may be the shut off, it happens after I've shut the stove off, and after I have takened 4 steps away from it. It doesn't make sense if the pilot is on and extra propane was coming through, wouldn't it flame up and burn the extra off. Tonight the propane , I could smell it in another room. I came in and the pilot still on. Blue flame, but I can smell strongly the propane. Any ideas. I have used a tiny fan, it's pointed up at the ceiling across from the heater I have it close to the ceiling and it's been awhile, but I have a regular table size fan that I set behind, but it's on the counter above the stove it's pointed directly on my internet box to keep it cool. In the past, even now, sometimes when it comes on to full flame, the flame is yellowish on the top blue flame and its higher than regular height when fully engaged when it 1st lights all the orvices. I have dusted it but probably need to open the grill, since I watched 1 of your videos. It isnt cutting off., though by it self. And also when its doibg what it should be, I've heard it click several times, I just thought like alot of gas heaters & the oil -electric radiator tyoeheaters will click when their metal bodies are getting warm, when they're getting hotter but now wondering if prehaps the safety valve isn't engaging. Any ideas?
@homesteadknowhow
@homesteadknowhow 2 жыл бұрын
It could be a leak, or that it's leaving a bit of unburned gas when going off or on. I'd clean any dust out of it, blow the pilot orifice clean, and air out the room really well. Then turn it on and see if you can smell a leak. Often, you can smell exactly where it's coming from if you really try.
@sorrowfulangel2335
@sorrowfulangel2335 2 жыл бұрын
I used a 30k Mr Heater for nearly ten years. The manifold developed a crack, so I bought a replacement heater. The new one doesn't have the glass shield. I called Mr Heater and they said that piece is no longer needed/included, but I can buy one for $13 plus shipping and handling. Does that sound right to you?
@homesteadknowhow
@homesteadknowhow 2 жыл бұрын
Mine is about 10 years old too.
@sorrowfulangel2335
@sorrowfulangel2335 2 жыл бұрын
@@homesteadknowhow Does it seem safe to operate without that glass shield? Just curious, didn't know if the Mr Heater rep was just wanting to make the omission of this piece my problem, not theirs.
@homesteadknowhow
@homesteadknowhow 2 жыл бұрын
@@sorrowfulangel2335 Seems to me like it should have a front face to keep things from getting into the flames. I'd question it.
@TonyBernardConsultant
@TonyBernardConsultant 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent Info ..... I'm gonna get one NOW!
@tomvincent3598
@tomvincent3598 Жыл бұрын
What heater are you useing ?
@homesteadknowhow
@homesteadknowhow Жыл бұрын
It's a Red Stone, later labled Procom. The larger size offered.
@tomvincent3598
@tomvincent3598 Жыл бұрын
Thank u ..unfortunately not available here in Canada @@homesteadknowhowat least that model is not....another size is though. The best video i have seen on utube great job.
@flr_klar9325
@flr_klar9325 2 жыл бұрын
Just woundering if anyone knows the propane consumption rate? Like how long a 20lb-40lb tank last? 680 sq ft house.
@kevinbennett9825
@kevinbennett9825 2 жыл бұрын
90,000 btu @ highest setting burns 1gallon of propane per hour.
@jackrobertson4043
@jackrobertson4043 2 жыл бұрын
Will running a buddy heater sitting next to a wall cause water to drip from the wall sometimes ?
@homesteadknowhow
@homesteadknowhow 2 жыл бұрын
It sure can, depending on hard it's running and what the inside humidity already is.
@revivedlady8300
@revivedlady8300 2 жыл бұрын
I have emailed you needing advise concerning the CO and Soot. Hope to hear from you soon.
@paulblack3790
@paulblack3790 3 жыл бұрын
So is it possible to add an external thermostat to these heaters?
@homesteadknowhow
@homesteadknowhow 2 жыл бұрын
That is beyond my scope. I've seen some crazy things done, but I wouldn't do it personally.
@michelleknighton1984
@michelleknighton1984 10 ай бұрын
Why does it take forever for the striker to stop when turning the pilot light on???
@homesteadknowhow
@homesteadknowhow 10 ай бұрын
I really don't know.
@Crazyone365
@Crazyone365 2 жыл бұрын
Very informative video!!! Ty for the help getting to understand my heater!!!
@darast.angelo261
@darast.angelo261 Ай бұрын
How much propane does it use a month??
@homesteadknowhow
@homesteadknowhow Ай бұрын
It's different for every home. I average about $100 a month from November to April to keep the hone decently warm. That's half of what my original furnace used.
@annestep3895
@annestep3895 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! This helped me so much.
@shawnaallison7793
@shawnaallison7793 Ай бұрын
I’m glad you mentioned the WD40 fumes. 😂
@damianpokoj1065
@damianpokoj1065 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent advice. Thank you!
@MJYouAreNotAlone1
@MJYouAreNotAlone1 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you💕🙏
@larryharless7804
@larryharless7804 2 жыл бұрын
Good information
@Crowhil13
@Crowhil13 3 жыл бұрын
How much different is propane v natural gas?
@homesteadknowhow
@homesteadknowhow 3 жыл бұрын
No real difference. Just make sure you use the proper setting (somewhere in the back) for the fuel you have.
@Crowhil13
@Crowhil13 3 жыл бұрын
@@homesteadknowhow do they always come with a choice setting?
@homesteadknowhow
@homesteadknowhow 3 жыл бұрын
@@Crowhil13 I believe so. They usually have a valve or hex key in the back of the unit that switches between the natural gas and propane pilot assemblies
@jerzeedivr
@jerzeedivr 3 жыл бұрын
propane is a hotter fuel.
@Berberskitchen
@Berberskitchen 3 жыл бұрын
@@jerzeedivr would it be cheaper for my to use propane or natural gas?
@pennymcadams7252
@pennymcadams7252 3 жыл бұрын
We have one in our house, just different pilot and burner, it is a Heartsease. My dog ran into it and now the fan does not work. It is mounted on the floor. Is this something I can fix myself?
@homesteadknowhow
@homesteadknowhow 3 жыл бұрын
The blower is pretty simple. I have seen replacement blowers for sale. Been thinking about getting one myself just so I have a spare.
@DavidWilson-bw8wg
@DavidWilson-bw8wg 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video. Good information. Thanks so much.
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