Lorefinder: Rovagug The Destroyer

[@VentureCaptains]

we have a poll going right now about what races people would most like to see covered the next time we make an episode about the different races of Golarion. please pick no more than 5 options when you vote. www.strawpoll.me/16346681

[@theinfinitysock5722]

Voted for tieflings but can you do a lorefinder on calistria my favourite booty goddess

[@VentureCaptains]

she's definitely on the list, one of our players is a warpriest of Calistria.

[@bificommander7472]

"I never thought Rovagug would eat my face" sobs worshipper of the Rovagug Eating People's Faces Church.

[@dmeep]

Terrasque - we have legally distinct godzilla at home

[@MistressTexi]

"All things must be destroyed, but the tools of destruction will be destroyed last." Antipaladin of Rovagug can be pretty fun in evil campaigns. I know the series is for those who don't wish to read the books, but Inner Sea Gods is a very good read if you enjoy dieties.

[@heartlessmushroom]

Speaking of suicide pacts, I have a headcanon that Rovagug wants to destroy the universe in a fit of suicidal rage. See, when Rovagug was "born" it came to be in a state of endless, intense anguish, so unspeakably horrid, not even the worst punishments of Hell could compare. Nothing, not even the worst thing imaginable by both god or mortal alike comes close to the rending agony that is existing as Rovagug. And thus, The Rough Beast grew to resent its own existence and for billions of years it tried to kill itself, failing every single time. It could never die, it could never stop the pain. And so it realized that the only way it could taste release was to end it all, literally. And so it set out to put itself out of its own misery by dragging the entire universe down with it, seeing everything virtuous and beautiful within it as a cruel mockery to its endless suffering.

[@dutchlinde56]

Headcanon accepted sooooo hard!

[@lordsathariel4384]

so in other words a god with crippling depression

[@scepta101]

Fascinating idea. If that is the case, I kind of imagine Rovagug screeching in pain and terror at all times, and so when it is finally released from its prison all who hear these screams are driven insane, not realizing they are screams of anguish rather than an attempt to scare people

[@emmanuelmaduka4182]

Fun fact, this is the actual origin of the Scarlet King SCP001 from the SCP universe.

[@CyberViking97]

Love your videos. Could you do a one about the World Wound and the Mendevian Crusades?

[@OMartinez91]

You know shit is serious when even the other evil gods are willing to help

[@chunkychew6995]

I think that rovagug is the reason for the gap between pathfinder and starfinder 🤔

[@firetarrasque4667]

Rovagug makes for a *wonderful* cosmic horror villain, because sometimes the Old Ones don't quite cut it.

[@aqure9]

I crave lore. This is an perfect treat. Also bug God is best God.

[@NRV0]

You know "I Crave Lore" sounds like it would be a nice username for a Dnd style reddit or forum.

[@FaisalTheSuperGuy]

1:58 Charlie Brown is Asmodeus!? my childhood makes so much more sense now!

[@Riccardification96]

Absolutely brilliant. You cheered up my day! Excellent work.

[@Master_E444]

You just know that somebody managed to stab that fire worm to death. Some crazy madlad managed it through some means and can now boast to have "stabbed a volcano to death" as you put it. It's probably absurd or just flat out ridiculous, but someone did it. Similarly some madmen probably managed to defeat the others at some point in there games.

[@Plekszy1]

Awesome. Best gaming info channel all categories. Funny and good narrative. Perfect summary of the subjects involved and on top of that crisp quality sound.

[@alexsminecraftchannel3956]

Loved your video! Thinking about running my first home brewed Adventure Path themed around Ruvagug’s return.

[@hazjones3331]

Rovagug's spawn sound like forgotten beasts from Dwarf Fortress. Cool

[@nathanwerth2094]

I miss Lorefinder. These are brilliant.

[@MultiKillerjoe]

It's so damn funny how you tell his story and how they huddled up and were like well let's put him in the planet any objections? No ok good lols.

[@Whiskeey666]

not to mention that sarenrae’s herald was later ressurected and became ceaseless discharge

[@AbsolXGuardian]

Nothing should ever be named "ceaseless discharge"

[@penaxor]

Brilliant as always, keep them coming!

[@MoxxyEvo]

Thank you for posting this. Looking forward to your next ones! Great resource!

[@zachcarpenter3903]

Zon-Kuthon would be awesome to know more about!

[@johnnyawesome2533]

It would be awesome to have a parallel video done between Rovagug and Groetus. Which is truly the worst end? How are they related and how are they different? How would their followers feel about the other?

[@Danscath]

Well when Rhovagu'll be free... The gods will do something with Golarion and tell to their priest "sssh Golarion's fine, don't ask" and then the Starfinder videos come hahahahaha

[@spacewarsfight281]

Rovagug the male ungoliant

[@S3THIR0TH]

Never looked at it that way before, genius!

[@pringlelingle6827]

Can you imagine if they did a warhammer end times event where he escapes and destroys everything

[@VentureCaptains]

That might even be canon for starfinder. The same universe in the far future and Golarion is just gone.

[@pringlelingle6827]

@@VentureCaptains well at least most of the races made it off world.

[@spacewarsfight281]

I like to think the spawn of rovagug mother is a extremely powerful protean

[@blueperry5409]

He will be freed for the war of the immortals storyline. It will get messy.

[@RMKGER]

I tried to beat the breed of this thing in Pathfinder: Kingmaker PC Game... now it make a lot more sense why I have no chance...

[@pogeman2345]

With the advent of Starfinder, I wonder what happened to Rovagug now that Golarion disappeared.

[@AbsolXGuardian]

I assume Golarian has just been moved someone else, perhaps to make it a more effective prison for Rovagug. Like maybe they moved it to Axis or something. And they had to take all the gap-memories in the process.

[@philippestoger3536]

This is the best! So funny.

[@cannedstarfish6194]

I have to point out if following a god give you actual working magic, then that alone is enough reason to follow a god.

[@ArtinColdwind]

Totally awesome video!

[@ThePuppyTurtle]

There's a contradiction in the lore as to whether or not Gorum was involved in the imprisonment of Rovagug. Inner Sea Gods says that he was in its entry on Rovagug, but in its entry on Gorum himself, it says that it's theorized he originated from the original fighting between humans and Orcs. Given the Orcs emerge from the darklands after Earthfall, this would mean Gorum couldn't possibly exist during the original battle. It only says that this is a theory, so it could just be that the stupid fluffy headed monkeys are wrong about where Gorum came from, but you think that they would know is there God's worship originated from long before that. Or maybe they wouldn't. Gorum's followers aren't the most studious people in the world. It could also be that he was attracted to Golarion by that fighting rather than created by it. If that's the case, he probably had a presence on alien worlds earlier than that. Starfinder should definitely explore his relationship to the vesk if this is the case. I can imagine he and their God do not get along in the slightest despite both being War gods.

[@VentureCaptains]

ThePuppyTurtle I saw that, but as you said I attributed it to Gorum's clerics being too worried about keeping the fort secured and their enemies dead to study much. Especially because the battle against Rovagug should be way more documented, as clerics of every deity that had a hand in it should more or less know the same story. I do really like your theory though, the idea of deities not being too interested in some worlds is very natural the more I think about it. When so much of the lore is on a planet scale, it's easy to see golarion as the center of the universe. And I doubt early believes would have known the difference between him appearing on the battlefield and being created there.

[@ThePuppyTurtle]

@@VentureCaptains It's very explicit that different worlds have different deities. In fact, different continents have different deities. Tian-Xia has its own core Pantheon after all. There's a starfinder adventure where the player characters make first Contact on a planet, only to discover that it's a nuclear Wasteland due to the activity of the the vesk Patron God, implying that he was active there and on the vesk Homeworld, despite seemingly not being active on golarion.

[@VentureCaptains]

ThePuppyTurtle of course, that was never in question. Starfinder has gods that never existed on golarion after all. What I meant is that since our pathfinder lore is mostly specific to golarion, then we don't usually think of the gods ignoring it just like it's another planet. Certainly for your average cleric, and especially a cleric of Gorum, the space beyond golarion is not very important. Getting there without 9th level magic is very hard after all. They probably see the planet as "the only one that matters" and the notion that gods could be focused on other planets should be alien for them (remember that for all the average Belkzen orc knows, there is no life outside of Golarion). In this context, if a god were to make himself known for the first time, they would not assume he already existed elsewhere and didnt care as a possibility but rather that he was created right there.

[@Nyrufa]

There are a couple of ways you can play a worshiper of Rovagug, without being a murder hobo. *First of all,* his worshipers believe that every act of violence and destruction loosens more of his bonds. So they might employ skills and tactics designed to prolong conflict as long as possible, or to inflict chaos on a much larger scale. A war between nations can inflict far more devastation than a single adventure party, no matter how devout they may be. *Secondly,* there are some worshipers who believe that after Rovagug is finished destroying the current world, a new one will be created to replace it, and his worshipers will be granted a place there. If you want to play a worshiper who isn't objectively evil, you could try being one of these followers and take on a missionary role, as you try to convert people for salvation!

[@AlacrityTW]

13:51 Yea that doesn't make sense, water under atmospheric pressure goes to a maximum of 100 deg C and boiling the ocean while there is convection and conduction requires so much wasted energy that it's flat out stupid

[@stevenjones4059]

Godzilla vs Rovagug that I'd love to see

[@marktownsend2198]

Great video, as always.

[@chibinya]

Was wondering when you'd show up

[@TheOwlslayer]

Great vid, nice work!

[@damavlog1983]

What other DMs have the idea of making a tarask one of this Eval gods children and making a campaign around a god seeking to control the world order to stop the release of rovagog by his cultist. And have the party try to stop both. And if unsuccessful the end of the planet?

[@leekit8951]

Should do a video on Nex and Geb. Both the countries and the two men.

[@vecna2101]

How did Calistria distracted Rovagug? She’s the goddess of lust so did she...? with Rovagug?

[@VentureCaptains]

This show isn't called lewdfinder, not yet anyway. So I'm afraid I can't answer that.

[@firetarrasque4667]

@@VentureCaptains Why would Rovagug even have a sexuality? Like... Is it even sapient? Is it capable of experiencing pleasure? I have so many fucking questions

[@jordanenyard9554]

Does anyone know where I can find the music the narrator uses in this video? It's really good!

[@VentureCaptains]

incompetech.com/ The name of each song is listed in the credits at the end of the video

[@Lucius_Chiaraviglio]

The Qlippoths got beaten into the furthest depths of the Abyss, by the tsunami of Demons formed from the souls of sinful mortals. Naturally, the Qlippoths resent this and want their plane back. It only makes sense that Rovagug, the greatest of them, sees all mortal life as the enemy, and wants to destroy mortals and all their creations. This does not mean that Rovagug wants to destroy ALL life -- that's the job of the Daemons, whose experiments led to the creation of the Demons in the first place. Rather, Rovagug might have been satisfied with the destruction of all the mortals, and their worlds, and their deities, leading to the eventual starvation of most Demons. Except that now Rovagug has been imprisoned for thousands of years, and has thus become REALLY crazy.

[@AlacrityTW]

2:20 final destination fox only LUL

[@ozate96]

THX

[@ramsaybriers8057]

Love your work, just wondering what your release schedule going forward is, what videos you have in pipe line, and if you needed any help with scrips/research

[@VentureCaptains]

hi, sorry about the late reply, our release schedule partly depends on the length of the script and the video but generally speaking we get one video out per month, we're trying to cut that down since a large factor in that timescale is simply that we all have other jobs that require our time. as for what videos we have in the pipeline, I don't want to spoil but as you can probably guess from the poll we've been talking about recently, we plan to make another video like "core races" but built around a different theme and we also want to do more gods and some more geography. as for help, one thing that would be a massive help for us, is translators. currently, we have English and Spanish subtitles, if you or anyone you know can translate the videos into another language, that would be a huge help for us and they'd be credited for every video they are involved in. in terms of script/research, we want to avoid a "too many cooks" situation but we welcome discussions in the comments about any topic that people feel like talking about. if there's something in Pathfinder that you're passionate about and you want to tell us all about it, we'll listen, and if we use that information, we'd give due credit on the video.

[@nukerwolf7788]

The devourer of starfinder?

[@VentureCaptains]

Some people have speculated that to be the case but there's no evidence for it, and I believe they represent different things. Rovagug is malice and destruction, like a galactic natural disaster that wants to sweep everything away in an instant. The devourer, while seemingly very similar is more akin to a very fitting concept for a sci-fi setting, The heat death of the universe. He's the slow, unavoidable, inevitable extinguishment of all life.

[@Jader7777]

2:48 Who is "Do-ber-all?"

[@MetalGearRAY675]

pathfinderwiki.com/wiki/Dou-Bral

[@alexsgamingshow2474]

Would love to try out Pathfinder one day as a PC whilst being a Lawful Good Paladin! Do you ever plan to run any Pathfinder games?

[@VentureCaptains]

We play Pathfinder and other RPGs in our discord community. Mostly second edition, though some have grown to dislike that system as of late.

[@alexsgamingshow2474]

Well if you want I could run a 1E game for you guys if you’d like.

[@VentureCaptains]

We appreciate the thought but the discord wasn't something we set up for lorefinder, it grew out of it and is just for a handful of close friends. As for pathfinder, while we love it's lore, we've begun to experiment with other systems for mechanics, including one of our own creation. I couldn't see us ever going back to 1st edition, even if we think 2e is flawed.

[@MrTotalAhole]

Question Lorefinder. How did Calistria distract Rovagug?

[@VentureCaptains]

My money is on a swarm of wasps.

[@Soider3]

Già dopo 3 minuti di video non lo sopporto più...

[@VentureCaptains]

Well it's a good thing we're not making any more isn't it? You won't have to stand it.

[@youcantbeatk7006]

Where the fuck is the excessive swearing?

[@maanze9284]

Some worship Rovagug, some vote for Trump, i suppose.

[@goolabbolshevish1t651]

Some are also a$$hats Who bring politics into gaming

[@maanze9284]

@@goolabbolshevish1t651 Indeed. Uhm... lets make D&D great again?