VERDICT: Oxford School Shooter’s Dad on Trial - MI v. James Crumbley

VERDICT: Oxford School Shooter’s Dad on Trial - MI v. James Crumbley - Day Six

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@apophis_202x 10 ай бұрын

your son is showing mental health problems but parents go and buy him a gun. shameful!!

@ilovetech8341 10 ай бұрын

did they just not lock it up?

@travispratt6327 10 ай бұрын

@@ilovetech8341 Correct, they bought the gun for him to use under their supervision and kept it in their bedroom. He found and stole it from them. These people can’t work with un-misrepresented facts though because then they’d have to acknowledge they’re participating in a lynch mob.

@travispratt6327 10 ай бұрын

@@ilovetech8341 Btw, it was not a law they had to lock it up back then, so their thought process is the guy had an obligation through knowing he was facing mental health issues to lock it up, despite the fact depression isn’t correlated with murder and even the school staff knowing every relevant piece of information didn’t deem him as a threat to himself or others, they were just concerned about his own wellbeing for his sake.

@ilovetech8341 10 ай бұрын

@@travispratt6327 no one always knows which mental problems are going to result in an incident. Most people should not be driving on the roads according to your logic

@RYMAN1321 10 ай бұрын

@@ilovetech8341He saw his son’s disturbing drawings though and how couldn’t he know about the animal torture ?

@ro6742 10 ай бұрын

Imagine if this was applied equally across ALL socioeconomic groups. 🤔

@TweetyPAK7 10 ай бұрын

I'm confused. Where is the live press conference?

@gwendorsey462 10 ай бұрын

CNN had it this evening

@edhebard8868 10 ай бұрын

Do you know if they will rebroadcast on Law and Crime Channel?@@gwendorsey462

@benniebella 10 ай бұрын

There wasn't one on this channel I waited for a long time

@bigmouth2410 10 ай бұрын

Maybe the father son and wife could share a jailcell together and they could turn it into a sitcom

@niah1983 10 ай бұрын

Shaking his head like he doesn’t believe he’s done any wrong…ugh

@samgarnett9174 10 ай бұрын

I’m surprised he was surprised for being found guilty!

@sinbadsailor1963 10 ай бұрын

How could he predict that the jury would consist of 100% idiots?

@TweetyPAK7 10 ай бұрын

I guess this is what happens when a network gets bought out and you fire everybody.

@shannon_w. 10 ай бұрын

Was there a press conference at the end?

@gwendorsey462 10 ай бұрын

Is that what happened

@benniebella 10 ай бұрын

@law&crime Network you need to get somebody to work on your videos especially your live ones. This one says jury deliberations will resume shortly. The verdicts already in. And it says 9:06 a.m. it's 8:30 p.m. in Michigan

@capriceclassic3667 10 ай бұрын

This was playing live earlier. It is no longer a live video but when it was the timing and updates were up to date/time and correct. You are now watching it back after the fact. So of course the timing and titles will not add up.

@benniebella 10 ай бұрын

@@capriceclassic3667 yes I know I was waiting for 2 hours for the verdict to come and then I waited another 2 hours for the press conference which never happened

@benniebella 10 ай бұрын

They also wasn't any press conference

@shaundagubko3152 10 ай бұрын

Wow, showing the jury walking out. Shame

@crazycryptoscad3907 10 ай бұрын

thats the families of the victims. shame you have no idea what is going on but still have access to computers

@kimincannes 10 ай бұрын

I've had this up for hours, on a separate tab, did the verdict ever come in?

@johnanderson8123 10 ай бұрын

guilty, and then Law and Crime decided to oust the entire jury on live stream. despicable

@niroweera6704 10 ай бұрын

Has there been a verdict?

@14svalde 10 ай бұрын

Was watching the verdict watch all day then suddenly changes to Press.Conference I click on it & line reads “found guilty.” Ugh I wanted to see it! Didn’t even change to VERDICT IN as usual just Press Conference!

@rblank1234 10 ай бұрын

Is there a video about it?

@johnanderson8123 10 ай бұрын

Unprofessional AF to live stream the jury on their way out of the courthouse. Distasteful!

@michaelsullivan1262 10 ай бұрын

Listen to all the babble! “We were chasing the jurors.” And people wonder why I do and say anything to avoid jury service. Press dirtbags.

@erberIsSillyhawk 10 ай бұрын

whys the dad on trial?

@samgarnett9174 10 ай бұрын

I’d recommend you read up about this. I’d get cramp in my fingers if I tried explaining this. Long story short the son’s mental health was deemed unsafe and the parents bought him a gun.

@travispratt6327 10 ай бұрын

At least partly because of political motives. People don’t think citizens should own guns so are blaming the parents for the adult child’s actions because the child stole the gun from them. If this was a collectible sword the kid stole from his parents room and all other facts were the same as they could be, nobody would be charging him or think they’re guilty. It’s about guns and the irrationality that comes out of the gun grabber culture.

@travispratt6327 10 ай бұрын

@@samgarnett9174 The foreperson of the mother’s trial said the biggest factor in deliberation was that they didn’t secure the gun, which was not a law back then. I’m not sure, but I’d suspect this jury was probably similar. In other words, it’s not that they “bought him a gun”, it’s that they bought a gun for him to use under their supervision then failed to secure it. Saying they “bought him a gun” is misleading people and painting a picture that they just bought a gun and gave it to him to freely use, that isn’t what happened. He stole that gun from them. Furthermore, this thinking just loads in the idea they were obligated to secure the gun, under law they were not, so the obligation must come from elsewhere, and that is usually the “mental health” stuff, but millions of kids are mentally unhealthy and don’t murder people, depression isn’t correlated with murder, and the counselor and teachers and school staff knew about his mental health and the violent drawings but didn’t believe it was enough to view him as a threat to himself or others, so it’s really not fair to say James should have viewed him as a threat to others either. People will say “James knew more” but he didn’t, all he knew besides that was there was a gun in the house, but that would be backwards thinking, first you determine someone’s a threat to themselves or other people then their access to weapons becomes relevant, their access to weapons itself isn’t indicative they want to hurt people, so it isn’t anything relevant to the school determining nobody could have reasonably foreseen he was a serious threat.

@sinbadsailor1963 10 ай бұрын

@@travispratt6327 Amen. Probably the best commentary I read on this case.

@99trees 10 ай бұрын

The parents may not have pulled the trigger but they did provide their child with the weapon that caused the 4 deaths and more. Those are the cold hard facts. Just my opinion.

@travispratt6327 10 ай бұрын

That’s like saying a car dealership didn’t run over an entire parade of people but they did supply the driver with the vehicle that caused the deaths. Those are also just cold hard facts. The problem is they’re irrelevant ones.

@truethat774 9 ай бұрын

@@travispratt6327 Not the same at all. Not even close. 🙄

@s3vyn3sevyn51 10 ай бұрын

wtf what kind of a 11hour 15min video is this wtf whos more crazy that family or the uploader

@thomasdalton1508 10 ай бұрын

This is a live stream. They are automatically saved as videos afterwards. They streamed it live so people could see any jury questions and the verdict as they came in.

@BLK2000 10 ай бұрын

More lives ruined. Aint bringing those poor souls bk tho

@63076topher 10 ай бұрын

It IS making sure parents DO NOT buy their children guns and get them mental health help when they ask.

@travispratt6327 10 ай бұрын

One of the only mental health conditions that’s relevant to murder or crime is psychopathy, which would be things like breaking the law, getting in trouble, not caring about others ect. and he showed no signs of any of that, in fact basically the opposite of psychopathy, decent grades, perfect attendance, didn’t get in trouble ect. Very sad verdict based mostly on ignorance I’m afraid.

@63076topher 10 ай бұрын

@@travispratt6327 Wrong they WERE negligent in buying their mentally disturbed son a gun. They knew of his problems he BEGGED for help he kept a decapitated bird head in his room what parents NEVER go into their child's room they didn't let the school know he had access to the gun.