Vergo vs. Pica: One Piece Debate - Unraveling the Strongest Vice Admiral vs. the Stone Giant!

During Episode 108, a fan by the name of JT tells Lawrence that Vergo would beat Pica. So Lawrence and Lionel get into a heated One Piece debate for the ages and they even get a little personal to the point Larry has to tell them time out to calm down and respect one another. Which side do you stand on?
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[@ThatOnePieceTalk]

✨ 𝗚𝗼 𝘁𝗼 𝗵𝘁𝘁𝗽://𝗯𝗲𝘁𝘁𝗲𝗿𝗵𝗲𝗹𝗽.𝗰𝗼𝗺/𝗧𝗢𝗣𝗧 𝘁𝗼 𝗴𝗲𝘁 𝟭𝟬% 𝗼𝗳𝗳 𝘆𝗼𝘂𝗿 𝗳𝗶𝗿𝘀𝘁 𝗺𝗼𝗻𝘁𝗵!

[@SPACECOWBOY705]

This was a fierce 12 minute haki clash 👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿

[@kakarotkills7]

🤣👏🏾

[@T_Bag221]

Larry is just enjoying his life😂😂😂

[@ThatOnePieceTalk]

As we all should 😂

[@SpencerClassic]

One of the funniest parts is Larry trying to bite the twins hands whenever they point their hand near Larry’s face 🤣🤣🤣

[@HBTSO]

Is that the same guy arguing with himself in different shirts

[@ThatOnePieceTalk]

😂

[@theredriver2070]

Crazy speed feat creating a mirage

[@gretelclarke2249]

The room is consist of 3 L's, Larry, Lawrence n Lionel 😂.. Yow we need more of the twins back to back banter

[@sajinkomamura3253]

Lawrence vs lionel debates gets me all the time. Please keep posting more

[@Draydonpointer]

They do be goin at it 😂😅

[@ThatOnePieceTalk]

We’re trying to find all the gems! 💎

[@0goingmerry0]

Bro these debate videos are so hype, give me MORE

[@ThatOnePieceTalk]

We trying! 😂 thank you for loving them.

[@kakarotkills7]

💯💯

[@Tenderchris81]

I love yall posting snippets from full episodes keep up this content 🫡

[@ThatOnePieceTalk]

Trying!

[@Tenderchris81]

@@ThatOnePieceTalk make sure Larry shows love to Kidd it’s his birthday after all 🎂🥳

[@user-nb4lc7fi3e]

This was a good conversation I can see both points being made ❗️

[@freddiemungo914]

I loved this whole debate😂😂💯

[@freddiemungo914]

Smoker catching hella strays 😂

[@ThatOnePieceTalk]

It’s the only thing HE can catch 😂

[@myst2761]

Sanji and Queen both were using armament haki, sanji stated he was and we seen Queen do it to block his diable jambe kick. It’s just Sanji has long black pants and diable jambe fire coloring that Oda doesn’t really depict it. Sanji also states it in 1033 I believe he combines armament haki with his exo skeleton to withstand his even greater flames (ifrit).

[@sergesmpoungui8546]

Exacttly. The thing is people forget that oda doesn't always use the busou shoku Koga for every character that uses haki poet timeskip. We see it with sanji, queen, kid, kizaru etc. Not using it doesn't mean weaker haki, it's just a choice

[@tsigaming9643]

This argument is on the level of akainu vs aokiji

[@ThatOnePieceTalk]

10 days of Haki blossoms and Devil Fruit awakening’s!

[@pattiimeltzz]

Larry just in the back laughing at everything and chiming in every now and than to build the fire 🔥🔥😂😂😂 this is great haha

[@MrAdvancedgameage]

Yea should name this segment weekly beef

[@ThatOnePieceTalk]

Great idea

[@stevenpoole5233]

Sensational

[@Skylancez]

Yo when the twins go at it, it’s always gonna get heated! Also where the #notificationgang at?

[@ThatOnePieceTalk]

Gang 👑

[@bankin3119]

Smoker catching strays out here 😂😂😂

[@CharlesEH]

Larry definitely that friend at the sleep over when the siblings start fighting over whose turn it is to play the Xbox.😂

[@SIMON_WAS_H3RE]

Vergo wins 7 outta 10 times

[@happyhour7871]

This is a very fair assessment that I lean towards as well

[@marcomarin1196]

How though, he's not breaking his stone to the level Zoro did to even force him out

[@jahmacsmall]

All good points I think if we put Virgo in Zoro’s position when he fought Pika, pika is winning. And if we put pika in laws position when he fought Virgo, Virgo is winning. Virgo Because he just has Haki is gonna be the more proficient fighter in hand to hand combat. But when given the proper environment and room for his devil fruit to be effective Pika is stronger.

[@keirongriffiths6361]

I'll work with this statement

[@CloudyDaze]

This is the best answer in this comment section. One Piece fights are ALWAYS situational as hell

[@jozeydirtz]

Larry was so litt and inspiring in this clip

[@ramboaye2806]

He also broke not broke but cracked sanji leg when they kept clashing

[@nonamegivin3884]

What was that wholee thing with food sticking to vergos face felt so random

[@Phil-Tasse]

I caaaant my stomach hahah

[@shihoblade]

This ninja thinks Sanji is struggling with Pica? This dude bugging. People talking like Sanji dont have large scale attacks need to re read the Hell memories chapter for one. For two he doesnt need it for just Pica. Sense him, charge, smadh through his boulders, kick the real one. Sanji doesnt have to play Zoro's little games or not being able to tracj or reach Pica. Sanji can fly and he senses better than Zoro. Easy match.

[@roronoarollin4849]

Sanji got the opening attack on Vergo and then they clashed equally until Sanji leg fractured.

[@jpram901]

So one thing I think you guys were mistaken with is Sanji was using haki the whole time vs queen, I maybe wrong about this but dosent Sanji use haki will using his flame leg attacks

[@kabirmuhummid8141]

he does

[@mudkiplover5962]

I feel like pika didn’t bother doing haki harden when he became the stone giant is that covering all the stones in his hand would be impossible for him to do.

[@Kekkersboy]

Pika was devil fruit reliant and the second ut came to a man ti man fight he ran

[@silvertongue-242_99]

I have to remember vergo dog walk law and his haki was weaker than him to the point he confident his haki would be enough. But law haki bloomed and was able to cut with his final attack

[@sinnitoosaka369]

Virgo broke sanjis leg who's a modified human!! Pika was hiding behind his devil fruit. Dude it's cannon that Virgo was the strongest out of the doffy familia. It was literally stated. Also the fact that Virgo got sent infiltrate the Marines, the fact that he was replacement for Cora~san

[@UltraBlue164]

Sanji wasnt modified in punk hazard…?

[@sinnitoosaka369]

@@UltraBlue164 he was modified since birth, since before the time skip he could set his leg on fire. Not even red leg Zef could do that and he had already to traveled the Grand line. The only way feasible for him to ignite his leg is because his DNA 🧬 is significantly altered.

[@sinnitoosaka369]

@@UltraBlue164 did he get stronger in wano? Yes absolutely. Was he already modified and stronger than a regular human? yes he most definitely was. How would you explain him beating a fishman underwater in arlong park if he wasn't already more than human?

[@naveen8202]

It was clearly stated that he didn’t awaken his modifications until he used the raid suit… if he had the modifications, he wouldn’t have broken his bones from the Virgo attack

[@sinnitoosaka369]

@@naveen8202 he was still above human level since he birth, otherwise he wouldn't be able to set his leg on fire without haki to begin with. Like the raid suit let his latent powers awaken but no normal human would be able to go toe to toe with Zoro. Like look how much Zoro to train to be at his level, and Sanji is right behind him and all he does is cook...

[@Deion_hooks]

All this sounds like is y’all yelling at each other to prove y’all points …

[@SquishyBlack]

Fresh Pica got one shotted by Zoro. It took Sanji, Smoker and Law to completely beat Vergo.

[@Eli-iq4ev]

It’s vergo as dude said his haki output is stronger

[@heartofdawnlight]

the biggest what if in this fight is Can vergo even find PIca... Like that was the only challenge Zoro faced in the entirety if the battle was pulling him out of his stone gollem long enough to get the finishing blow... I think that if Vergo did get that hit he could probably take pica down.... But i also dont think hes making contact with pica's main body... His DF is hella OP. So much so it has potential to rival the island DF in some aspects

[@RakhatTalgatuly]

Pica happened to fight a character with overwhelming Armament Haki, you can't say Pica's armamen haki is weak just because he happened to fight Zoro, who arguably had a better armament haki than Luffy up until Wano. And to bring up Vergo destructive capability is just dumb, when pica can damage a whole city in his giant form. Also having observation haki doesn't do the trick, Zoro used his observation to detect Pica, but if didn't work because Pika was able to relocate himself easily and quick. And attack that Zoro used is to destroy Pica by far has more attack power than any mentioned character. Im not saying that PIca would win, i think it's a great debate to have, but to say Vergo washes is wild, considering Pica has an OP df, which allows to do damage and hide.

[@RomarioAllison]

Bro wasn't Virgo stated to be the strongest fighter after doffy? Correct me if am wrong .

[@AOLetsGO67]

7:24 🤣

[@ThatOnePieceTalk]

Bruh 😂

[@Free_roam_XCIX]

Vergo wins low to mid dif moonwalk is just a game changer

[@PuppyGeneral]

Well just my opinion Verge had more under his belt and fought more impressive enemies so he had a better showing than Pica but for destructive power stated by baby five pica had that

[@Mir-ds5zu]

Vergo is for sure stronger. He has training from the Marines and made it to Vice Admiral. He uses Rokushiki which specializes in 1v1. Someone who primarily uses their DF won’t have stronger haki than someone who doesn’t have a DF. (primarily not both). With that being said I don’t see how Vergo gets pass Pica Mountain ability.

[@hakeenmcnutt9834]

Neither one of them can beat Buggy aka Rocks reincarnation‼️

[@ThatOnePieceTalk]

You’re on timeout. 😑

[@cozbyv3]

Honestly mentioning smoker is crazy

[@ThatOnePieceTalk]

He getting smoked 😂

[@wilt2303]

I think Pica and Vergo are about the same strength, Law cut down one and Zoro cut down the other. I think both could beat Vergo or Pica

[@adelg8]

I don't remember much of either of these guys. I jist remember Pika being annoying AF and Vergo getting stuff stuck on his face all the time.

[@gadd-00]

If Pica was more powerful than Vergo then wouldn’t Dolflamingo have had Pica as one of his main entourage? I dunno, I’m a Vergo fan and would love for his return but judging by who they fought I’m saying Zoro is not a harder appointment than Law at that time.

[@ClarkeMichaelDuncan]

He was in the entourage, he was one of the founding members of the family, that’s why he was tasked with an undercover mission

[@ClassicKidSan]

Respectfully Virgo is a Zoro victim. Law was never stronger than zoro.

[@jty1482]

I know haki transcends all devil fruits, and Vergo has a higher spot in the donquixote family but pica has a clapped out devil fruit. Also, if Monat isn’t returning Vergo’s not returning.

[@bigjen8238]

Pica was part of his main entourage

[@gadd-00]

@@bigjen8238 for real? Yes you’re right.

[@cantThinkOfAname215]

To be Doffys Corazon isnt just about strength, this is proven by Rosanante being selected (when objectively hes just obviously weaker than most in the Donquioxte family, even adult Baby 5 could probably take him out) so its about not just strength but the amount of respect Doffy has for you. Vergo is more respected by Doffy, but Pica is definitely stronger.

[@jimohabdulqudus4283]

Wouldn't it just because corazon is family....Actual family. Like they both started the crew😅

[@kooto8603]

I always thought vergo was stronger that's why he fought law instead of zoro 💯

[@SuperSpicyHotdog]

Vergo was relying on laws heart to fight him. Without it he got one shot. Zoro had to use his second strongest technique at the time to finish pica (asura being 1)

[@BigMaine313]

The “zolo” pronunciation makes this so hard to listen to for me

[@jordanduncan8382]

Vergo definitely wins. Only difference between Zoro beating Pica and Vergo beating Pica is that it would take a lot more time for Vergo to do it due to his lesser DC.

[@adamxero]

Vergo was stronger than Pica. His portrayal and showing against Law was much more impressive.

[@Absol_hunt]

I haven't seen it is the best comeback

[@houseofmatrix6174]

The Best one piece channel . Vergo wins

[@ThatOnePieceTalk]

Thank you

[@houseofmatrix6174]

@@ThatOnePieceTalk yalll page just awesome bro you give honest reactions and opinions that’s refreshing keep doing y’all thing

[@ronlewis1554]

Simply put vergo is stronger than pika also zoro needed olumbus to even catch up to pika sanji can just fly to him.

[@Subpar]

its a shounen and power scales via the timeline, pica wins

[@CloudyDaze]

Mihawk's a Wapol victim with that logic ☠

[@Subpar]

@@CloudyDaze wapol clears 🗣

[@roronoarollin4849]

Saying Vergo has better CoO than Zoro gotta be the worst take I ever heard

[@orioncrawford9618]

Pica picas ability is nice and all, but it's stone. If you can break through at least five ft of stone repeatedly, you can beat Pica. The question is can you fast enough and are you skill enough to prevent him from getting more stones

[@jozeydirtz]

Is it really that ridiculous to say a giant bone is stronger than stone and rubble.. Human Bones are ridiculously strong and then you timings that strength and size a million fold

[@super15474]

They forgot Garp is a vice admiral 💀

[@user-xd4ig6fw9h]

Vergo obviously. lol

[@orioncrawford9618]

Virgo has want he needs to beat Pica consistently

[@Shawesome.D.Water.Cosby.]

Let. Them. COOOK.

[@AhmedHajjaj-yh6ii]

There's no proof for who's stronger but vergos portrayal is better, doffy trusted him so much he was sure vergo would whoop law and smoker

[@user-yg3bn7id1t]

Pica’s fruit gives him the edge imo.

[@jimohabdulqudus4283]

If you have observation....That's not much of an edge anymore

[@animeperspective9866]

​@jimohabdulqudus4283 Vergo didn't show amazing observation feats and he also hasn't shown the AP to hand with pica

[@yakiynisrael2409]

I beg to differ that Danji has better observation Haki than Zoro. Has he done anything better during battles that what Zoro did in his sleep on the ship?

[@Eden0211]

Wait, in terms of Observation? Yes. He dodged Katakuri's bean.

[@yakiynisrael2409]

@@Eden0211 There’s no difference between dodging that bean dodging a bullet. Doesn’t matter if Kat has future sight the fact is after that bean leaves his hand there’s no way for him to adjust the trajectory of the bean even if he sees that Sanji will dodge it.

[@jimohabdulqudus4283]

​@@yakiynisrael2409You don't get it do you.... Katakuri is basically attacking from the future. And you saying trajectory....Luffy is far faster than zoro and he couldn't even touch nor dodge Katakuri. So what are you saying

[@yakiynisrael2409]

@@jimohabdulqudus4283 ok explain to me how can Katakuri change the trajectory of the bean after he throws it? All Sanji has to do is dodge what Katakuri throws he doesn’t have to read any future or read Kats mind. It’s the same as dodging a bullet.

[@isthisapigeon6612]

@@yakiynisrael2409 totally agree. I mean it's still a nice feat since Katakuri probably saw the future where Sanji dodged, adjusted the trajectory before he threw it, and Sanji still dodged. But yes, once the the bean left his hand it was just a normal shot, maybe a bit trickier to dodge than usual. In general, this idea that Sanji has amazing observation haki is kinda headcanon: I would love if he would start to show great haki feats in battles, but he has never really done it up to now

[@user-nb4tk1dv5x]

Issho couldn’t break birdcage with halo

[@darwinthegreat233]

Doesn’t dofi and law both say that vergo is dofis best I can’t remember plus vergo fights more in the marines the pica

[@user-nb4tk1dv5x]

With haki*

[@ClassicKidSan]

Virgo broke sanji leg tho , i think virgo is stronger by a lil bit but pika aint no slouch.

[@marcomarin1196]

Sanji at that time was weak, he wouldn't beat Pica either

[@tamarcthomas4412]

Vergo arguably the strongest vice admiral after Garp. He held the corazon position in the doflamingo family. He definitely low diffing pica

[@cameronthorley4712]

Sanji isnt beating Pika during dressrosa arc. No way. He just fought Queen and the fight was gas but he wasnt kicking though Queens neck. Best know Zoro beheading Queen just like he dismantled Pika's arms. As for Pika Vs Vergo. Vergo is a better fighter without a doubt. Pika from what i remember didn't use armament haki whereas my guy Vergo came in looking like a purple Sergio Biscuit from Baki... COLDDDDD. Even with that, Pika is so massive i struggle to see Vergo doing any work :/

[@kabirmuhummid8141]

stop sword gobbling zoro and be realistic.

[@2xttv974]

Are they brothers ?😂

[@Djrocsmyth]

Doffy cut thru diamonds jozu so most definitely he would Cush pica easily

[@BlaxkSun]

Vergo is cooler… cooler does not equate to power

[@MrTezFOX]

Vergo destroys Pica bros. Vergo is a very efficient armament haki user. He shot something out of tat bamboo shoot with very maximum destructive force.

[@kingfrosty7228]

Zoro*

[@TyTyUchiha]

Clearly you’re not 😂

[@themightymastodon8805]

Haha Haki Man

[@sinnitoosaka369]

Sanji wasn't weakened 🤣🤣🤣

[@kabirmuhummid8141]

yes he was

[@sinnitoosaka369]

@@kabirmuhummid8141 how was he weakened?

[@marcomarin1196]

Vergo or Dressrosa Sanji don't have the DC to beat Pica and force him outside of his statue.

[@stardestroyer19]

Don't need the DC, he can pin point Pica much easier and get to him .

[@slickricky769]

Strongest vice admiral is garp….

[@kobil316SH]

Pica wins

[@gsmoneybabyxxl7575]

Vergo has better feats than pika

[@metalme2306]

Pika is way stronger than Vergo

[@MRPRICE066]

"HAKI TRUMPS ALL"kaido

[@LoloLesaoana]

Vergo would beat pica not even close👹❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥🐆🐆👍

[@Peruzini_Videos]

Zoro could destroy Vergo

[@tareefspencer4005]

😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@ronlewis1554]

Pika is not beating vergo.

[@BlaxkSun]

Why?

[@ronlewis1554]

@@BlaxkSun difference in haki showing actual combat skill and not total complete reliance on a devil fruit better showing against top crew members in the straw hats

[@Hunter_Brandon]

What is Vergo doing against Pika when he’s in giant form?

[@ronlewis1554]

@@Hunter_Brandon demon bamboo ez

[@ronlewis1554]

@@Hunter_Brandon and unlike Zoro he won't need olumbus to catch him he can fly with geppo

[@Rioforshort]

Never realized how balled the cast is, it’s all love tho

[@NutzDaBlackSwordsman]

First

[@ThatOnePieceTalk]

Thank you for being first.

[@schnozchan6606]

Doffy's string could definitely cut most of Pica's giant stone form, but i don't think he could completely bisect it like Zoro did with any of his strings. Neither could Vergo, or Dressrosa Sanji. They could destroy portions of his body, but without having a sword or the sword skill of Zoro, i doubt they could get to his real body to get the killshot.

[@zaik]

Zoro > vErgo > pika > sanji > smoker

[@BrothaLove-qw1ly]

Vergo was barely stronger than weakened sanji. So sanji would be stronger than both pika and vergo

[@zaik]

@@BrothaLove-qw1ly barely ??? sanji's squeletton couldn't even stand vergo's haki ??? it's not about weakened or not sanji coulnd't stand physically vergo

[@BrothaLove-qw1ly]

@@zaik a sanji that wasn't using haki. So what's your point? If zoro's bare body or even luffy's bare body takes a direct hit from someone using armament, they will get a bone broken. We've seen it happen.

[@zaik]

@@BrothaLove-qw1ly not even once with zoro or luffy sanji was outstrenght by vergo who's way stronger than him and vergo wasn't using haki when he outstrengh sanji....

[@BrothaLove-qw1ly]

@@zaik when sanji's leg got fractured, vergo was using haki

[@Klung-Klan_oa_SA]

Only Oda San can make people haki clash this much, on a serious note in my opinion I think Virgo would struggle against Pica because Pica's defence is quite solid and I feel Virgo would slightly struggle to break through it.

[@linsan2988]

They are same level +-

[@LuciidDreamz]

Zoro had to use one of his strongest non Ashura related attacks and Haki on all his swords to defeat Pica. I think we can all agree Zoro has stronger armament Haki in Dressrosa than Vergo. If Zoro is clearly stronger than Vergo at this point, why couldn’t Zoro just immediately one hit Pica on the ground without the need of being thrown and using one of his strongest attacks? Finding pica is clearly an issue that contributes to Zoro being thrown but that’s besides the point of overpowering him. Pica has similar if not greater Haki than Vergo and has a DF that dramatically increases his power output. Stop the cope, Vergo isn’t beating Pica

[@littyfromsouth2002]

Yeah and attack power wise sanji and vergo are not on zoro's level which was what defeated pica

[@ClarkeMichaelDuncan]

He said he couldn’t do it because he was too far and finding him was only an issue because he kept running, that’s why zoro had to get thrown, so he could catch him and then he cut the stone into smaller and smaller pieces to weed him out, his haki wasn’t even needed just overkill And idk why people are acting like vergo can’t break stone, shits the bare minimum for anyone considered strong Having a cool df doesn’t make you strong😭

[@LuciidDreamz]

@@ClarkeMichaelDuncan it’s almost as if I explained why Zoro had to be thrown in my original comment

[@littyfromsouth2002]

@@ClarkeMichaelDuncanVergo does not have AP like zoro to execute it, sani and vergo can find and get to pica unlike zoro but can they replicate his force like him no

[@jimohabdulqudus4283]

Vergo clearly has better armament than Zoro

[@metalme2306]

Pika is way stronger than Vergo