Controversial Take: BIG MOM is the WEAKEST Yonko in One Piece!? - Seb & Larry Get WILD

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That One Piece Talk

That One Piece Talk

6 ай бұрын

During episode 107, a fan asks if Big Mom is the weakest Yonko. Sebastian believes so. The rest of the cast doesn't. Larry says Blackbeard is and it's not close meanwhile Lawrence believes it's a lot closer than we think. Lionel states that Big Mom has a lot of advantages and would definitely beat Luffy because of her long-lasting battle endurance plus her regenerative capabilities. Which side do you stand on?
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@ThatOnePieceTalk
@ThatOnePieceTalk 6 ай бұрын
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@donut3475
@donut3475 6 ай бұрын
Larry talks in the most condescending manner sometimes 😂 shout out Sebastian he’s got conquerors patience
@danieln7591
@danieln7591 4 ай бұрын
He really does, not to mention how he will try keep people from fully explaining what they mean, the use of double standards
@h0ard3r96
@h0ard3r96 3 ай бұрын
i swear larry's a king gaslighter 😂
@marcellmartinez3316
@marcellmartinez3316 6 ай бұрын
Sebastian spitting facts with the clash topic 🤷‍♂️ bunch of ppl have clashed with weaker characters and not pushed them back. Is not that serious
@BrothaLove-qw1ly
@BrothaLove-qw1ly 5 ай бұрын
But given the context, it is. If they clashed and then jumped back to continue the fight like most clashes go, that would he one thing. However, blackbeard resorted to canceling law's ability rather than just overpowering him with the gura gura no mi. If he could have overpowered him, he would have.
@machine9
@machine9 5 ай бұрын
@@BrothaLove-qw1ly in what world would using another ability that you realize would be super effective be the wrong choice? I could spend 2 hours running to work or I can spend 20 minutes driving there which do you think i would do? I feel like oda has shown multiple times that blackbeard isnt the kinda guy to risk things and will take advantages wherever he sees them. in some instances hes overconfident or undercalculates situations but that doesnt mean he wouldnt use the dirtiest and most underhanded tactics to achieve his goal. Even if he was outright stronger itd be insanely out of character for him to have a fair fight because hes the truest representation of a PIRATE its what they do.
@BrothaLove-qw1ly
@BrothaLove-qw1ly 5 ай бұрын
@@machine9 except the gura gura should be more than strong enough to take out law. If it was whitebeard in that situation, law would've been done. Also, what part of using the yami yami no is unfair? Thats just the ability of the devil fruit. If he were stronger than law, he would've taken him out with the gura gura right then and there. We know law isnt tanking that. Instead, he cancelled out laws devil fruit. He had no reason to do so if he's stronger.
@BrothaLove-qw1ly
@BrothaLove-qw1ly 5 ай бұрын
@@machine9 that analogy makes zero sense considering the fact that you're trying to argue that blackbeard could have beaten law in the clash. The gura gura is the super effective move in this scenario because in no world is law about to tank a quake punch from someone who's gura gura use is more powerful than him. If blackbeard couldn't stop law, he isn't stopping damned punk. He's getting flung off the ship.
@machine9
@machine9 5 ай бұрын
@@BrothaLove-qw1ly you have a problem with thinking that one pieces power scaling is linear and especially when it comes to devil fruits that isnt true. You cant say one fruit should be stronger by comparing past users or the general ability itself. Not to mention that black beard definitely doesnt have the same power both with the gura gura no mi and raw strength as whitebeard. Its also without a doubt much more difficult to land a punch against the most versatile fruit in the one piece universe. A fruit which in the anime is stated as being top tier and possibly the strongest. On someone like law who has both trained with it his entire life and awakened it making it his most lethal weapon. If blackbeard disarms him and beats him in no way is he weaker blackbeard wins in the end so whats the point if we say law is physically stronger or not.
@d.7203
@d.7203 6 ай бұрын
The reason law was extending the sword was not to build up a charge but rather to make sure that he would be sending her straight into the Lava pool
@ThatOnePieceTalk
@ThatOnePieceTalk 6 ай бұрын
You’re correct. Chapter 1039 & 1040 show this is true. We should also keep an open mind that Law needed to create enough force to create the hole which makes it a more devastating attack. None of Law’s other attacks did such a thing.
@d.7203
@d.7203 5 ай бұрын
@@ThatOnePieceTalk You got a point there
@Hawkeye1111
@Hawkeye1111 5 ай бұрын
@@ThatOnePieceTalkhave you tried keeping in mind that only 2 characters in the entire show have ever had the boxed in “Worlds strongest” title. One was whitebeard arguably the strongest pirate physically ever 💀 and then mihawk. But apparently those special titles specifically made different than anything else in the show don’t matter right 💀💀💀💀
@budderman8344
@budderman8344 5 ай бұрын
@@Hawkeye1111kaido is the worlds strongest creature
@Hawkeye1111
@Hawkeye1111 5 ай бұрын
@@budderman8344 his title is not like mihawk or Whitebeards. His title is “the people say” kaido is the strongest creature. Go look up the panels where mihawk and whitebeard are itroduced, they have specific boxed in titles that call them worlds strongest. No other characters in the show have ever had that
@greywarden5513
@greywarden5513 6 ай бұрын
BM disrespect is Law disrespect. BM is a Monster, she also has the most varied abilities and regen. That she took damage from Law is a testament to Law, who’s hurt every Yonko he fought.
@Dave_of_Mordor
@Dave_of_Mordor 6 ай бұрын
It's actually shanks who is the weakest yonko. He waited for 20 years for big mom and kaido to "die" then to go after their poneglyphs
@vampiranya9939
@vampiranya9939 6 ай бұрын
It's true, ppl just don't want to acknowledge any other new gen potential top tiers besides Luffy and Zoro, and that's why they pushing agenda to downplay Law and Kid by downplaying there opponent Big Mum too. Even tho Law is insanely strong in and after Wano, he not only has hax and df, he has very good stats too, his speed is on par or higher than Marko or King even without tp which lots of downplayers hate to acknowledge, also having the highest ap among supernovas besides Luffy.
@greywarden5513
@greywarden5513 6 ай бұрын
@@vampiranya9939 Not a lie was spoken.
@xteddxick1
@xteddxick1 5 ай бұрын
@@vampiranya9939 everybody knows the potential of those too, but they aren’t on luffy level and i think thats one of the only reasons why ppl downplay them. Everything and everyone gets compared nowadays, ppl love law, thats a fact and i dont think he has reached his full potential yet. I feel like ppl don’t acknowledge those two because they’re too busy worrying about how strong luffy and zoro will get by the end of the series mainly because of the opponents waiting for them at the end.
@umbralowl
@umbralowl 5 ай бұрын
Shanks hasn't waited 20 years for Kaido and Big Mom to die what are you talking bout? He's clearly been waiting for Luffy to awaken his devil fruit if you think otherwise you clearly just hate Shanks. Bruh Shanks decides to go after the One Piece when he sees Luffy's Nika poster... Shanks stole the Nika fruit from a CP9 ship and after Luffy eats it and declares he'll be king of the pirates, Shanks proceeds to tell Luffy to meet him at the top then he becomes a Yonko and then does nothing until Luffy finally awakens his devil fruit and becomes Yonko himself@@Dave_of_Mordor
@nerdcorner2680
@nerdcorner2680 5 ай бұрын
I don’t get why it’s so hard for One Piece fans to admit that some characters are equals or very close to it. Everything with the story screams at us that Kaido and Big Mom are so close to equals that the difference is neglagent.
@jaahman0098
@jaahman0098 5 ай бұрын
The problem is how oda portrays these characters. He did not make big mom and kaido seem close in power
@nerdcorner2680
@nerdcorner2680 5 ай бұрын
@@jaahman0098 Not really, they did an equal team attack, they speak to each other as equals, they faught evenly for days, preformed equally against worst generation, and Kid and Law just pushed Big Mom down into the lava while Kaido faught more people and tougher opponents and actually seemed to be defeated before hitting the lava.
@jaahman0098
@jaahman0098 5 ай бұрын
@@nerdcorner2680 big mom didn’t use advanced haki at all in her fight with Kidd and law. She was just one big gag this entire arc. Oda made her a clown.
@xfrederic564
@xfrederic564 5 ай бұрын
i tell my homie that narrative wise and it’s jus in one ear out the other 😭😭😭 why would kaido have a partner when he’s shown to be oppressive too unless it’s equal footing
@drewskie47
@drewskie47 5 ай бұрын
@jaahman0098 yea when they were fighting kiado was def beating her 🤣🤣🤣🤣 yall go re watch it
@ClassicKidSan
@ClassicKidSan 5 ай бұрын
Franky driving his motorcycle 🏍️ right over her face gotta be one of the funniest moments in one piece 😂
@robosuit
@robosuit 5 ай бұрын
It's weird how larry almost refuses to look at seb. Instead he gets a monotone voice, looks at the ceiling, and tilts his head side to side as condescendingly as possible.
@danieln7591
@danieln7591 4 ай бұрын
Because he knows he's wrong and can't except it
@eybiecie6268
@eybiecie6268 6 ай бұрын
BB used black vortex because its the easiest and most logical thing to do. How can BB overpower him with his other abilities (fruit or haki) if law just teleports away. Even kaido and big mom had a hard time trying to land a hit on a full energy law while hes just spamming shambles. The quake fruit has a lot of attack power but it wont matter if it cant hit law thats why he used vortex.
@everybodysayplease
@everybodysayplease 5 ай бұрын
Gura gura arguably has more range than the biggest room law has ever made. He should be able to literally break laws room.
@TheNomadicAceG
@TheNomadicAceG 5 ай бұрын
@@everybodysaypleaseso? He still has the darkness powers, why not use it if its more effective? Yall just hate BB to hate
@everybodysayplease
@everybodysayplease 5 ай бұрын
The whole point is that he has the strongest paramecia and he couldn’t overpower law with
@eybiecie6268
@eybiecie6268 5 ай бұрын
@@everybodysayplease the whole point is strength does not matter if you cant land a hit. If you dont get that im done.
@kflow250
@kflow250 3 ай бұрын
​@everybodysayplease when has blackbeard made a quake larger than a mountain?
@HappyMrMeal
@HappyMrMeal 6 ай бұрын
I swear Sebastian has the craziest patience to put up with Larry 🙄 dude can have facts placed at his feet on a gold platter and he’d still argue 😂
@samuraitadpole5459
@samuraitadpole5459 6 ай бұрын
Tbf Larry keeps things interesting
@HappyMrMeal
@HappyMrMeal 6 ай бұрын
@@samuraitadpole5459 nah Larry just stirs the pot and then throws gas on the fire.
@samuraitadpole5459
@samuraitadpole5459 6 ай бұрын
@@Monkey.D.Uno. "Larry is just toxic for clicks" I completely agree, I hope he's just acting but whether or not he's acting his tactics are successful
@keyonisdoyle188
@keyonisdoyle188 6 ай бұрын
Larry doesn’t ever really prove seb wrong he only talks around the points made and nitpick specific details in the statement made in order to discredit seb or others and talk down condescendingly / arrogantly to make others seem less than him the superiority complex like he wrote the show and knows exactly everything about each character or manga panel is really something you guys should talk to Larry about it’s weird how almost no one can challenge him without being out talked or sarcastically getting remarked at
@ThatOnePieceTalk
@ThatOnePieceTalk 6 ай бұрын
This is how you say you don’t watch the show without admitting you don’t watch the show. 😂
@Blaisesoldier
@Blaisesoldier 6 ай бұрын
You can see it on pod mates faces
@xavierfaucher7099
@xavierfaucher7099 6 ай бұрын
Yep, I like the show but he usually makes assumptions on unknown factors and is condescendant to others who don't see it the same way he does when both could be valid. I guess it makes for a better show sometimes but it can also be real annoying
@chobyghee1593
@chobyghee1593 6 ай бұрын
@@ThatOnePieceTalkThis is how you say you don’t know your community without saying you don’t know your community 😂 if you did, you would know that Larry is seen as “that guy with horrible takes”. Literally known as the guy with the worst takes in the OP community.
@ceebeepeee
@ceebeepeee 6 ай бұрын
i love larry but in this instance i agree
@drewski8949
@drewski8949 6 ай бұрын
Strength aside I think big moms personality was her biggest weakness😂
@czar17_28
@czar17_28 5 ай бұрын
100% is what’s portrayed.
@StrawhatSkinny
@StrawhatSkinny 6 ай бұрын
Y’all be having them MJ v Lebron type debates, I love it! That’s also how I know the friendship is real
@ThatOnePieceTalk
@ThatOnePieceTalk 6 ай бұрын
Brothers 👑
@SlinkSquad
@SlinkSquad 3 ай бұрын
Sebastion is a G for standing on business bro cause Larry is the hardest person to argue with cuz he always got the answers ready! lol
@Greenlazo
@Greenlazo 5 ай бұрын
Larry saying that kid could be black beard. Kid and his whole crew got one shotted by shanks while on the other hand black beard fought shanks and scarred him on his eye and this was before he has the gura gura.I dunno about you but to me that says something power wise
@danieln7591
@danieln7591 4 ай бұрын
That isn't good one to use because that shanks is much weaker than current shanks and blackbeard isn't nearly as strong as shanks is now
@RobertsonIsland
@RobertsonIsland Ай бұрын
Larry is dead wrong about why Law extended the sword so long. He didn’t do it to build a bigger shockwave he did it to open a hole to the magma beneath Wano so they could drop big mom in it
@RealTrill1
@RealTrill1 6 ай бұрын
Keep these videos coming 🔥
@ThatOnePieceTalk
@ThatOnePieceTalk 6 ай бұрын
More to come!
@Rossy890
@Rossy890 5 ай бұрын
Larry arguing a strength of a attack seb clearly said BB stopped it before it could connect and extend. I would hate arguing with person like that😂😂
@dphantom1314
@dphantom1314 6 ай бұрын
I was agreeing whole heartedly with Larry at first. Then he started talking like he does during the ddt when he said Blackbeard could have lost to Kid. If it was a 1v1 then I'd say he'd have a good chance at losing. But crew to crew there was no chance Blackbeard loses that.
@thatlightskinkid8964
@thatlightskinkid8964 5 ай бұрын
Kidd is snatching van augers gun and none of the crews mates on winner island could be on that roof top, everyone but bb is getting jumped by the kids pirates and killer would merk bb crew and if Kidd can’t beat bb alone he sure can w killer
@badxgamingx3942
@badxgamingx3942 5 ай бұрын
@@thatlightskinkid8964Dude, what are you and Larry on? Killer is going to take on 3 Yonko commanders all by himself, let’s just assume that he could even hold them off which he can’t, but for the sake of argument let’s assume so, Kidd will need to actually survive on a 1v1 against BB? Your boy Kidd is getting folded like a plastic plate bro
@badxgamingx3942
@badxgamingx3942 5 ай бұрын
Bro fr, I was like wait!? I’m I really agreeing with Larry? Then he comes out with that Kidd bs 😂 And claiming Killer can just take 3 Yonko commanders like they’re just bunch of marine captains 😂
@JG0en187
@JG0en187 6 ай бұрын
I love these back and forths. I legit am lost as some points tho lmao.
@dupreeherndonii1292
@dupreeherndonii1292 6 ай бұрын
Larry with this Blackbeard hate is CRAZYYYY
@silverrose1933
@silverrose1933 6 ай бұрын
Larry went from downplaying kidd in the past to defending kidd
@badxgamingx3942
@badxgamingx3942 5 ай бұрын
He can’t keep his thoughts straight 😂 Dude really think there’s an scenario in which Kidd ends on top against BB and his crew 🤣🤣🤣 Kidd is getting folded mid diff against BB
@ronlewis1554
@ronlewis1554 5 ай бұрын
Im ngl kidd had a better chance than law against bb killer makes things way better.
@TheUndefeatedOfTheEast
@TheUndefeatedOfTheEast 5 ай бұрын
The remixed gdundam song for the outro is verrrrry nice
@ahuntpropertysince1988
@ahuntpropertysince1988 5 ай бұрын
Big Mom had the most debuffs to lose fights and she still was a problem. They had to jump a 68 year old granny just to push her away from the fight.
@AcksD.Bharlotte
@AcksD.Bharlotte 6 ай бұрын
Honestly the Big Mom we know isn’t really her, its a persona that was manifested through Linlin’s Trauma & amnesia regarding Mother Carmel and her friends PLUS Streusen’s manipulation I believe the times we see Big Mom go into “Motherly Mode” is more akin to who she truly is Smoothie is going to squeeze the lava out of Big Mom, and she will return, stronger than ever
@JLKaizen
@JLKaizen 6 ай бұрын
Smoothie could do that. I never thought about that
@MayMoment_
@MayMoment_ 6 ай бұрын
@@JLKaizen lava doesn't seep into you, it'd just turn you to ash. If the lava hurts big mom, she wouldn't be able to wring her out and she's fine, by the time smoothie finds her she's a corpse
@JLKaizen
@JLKaizen 6 ай бұрын
@@MayMoment_ it’s one piece, I can see something like that happening. Somebody from her crew can use their power to save her
@MayMoment_
@MayMoment_ 6 ай бұрын
@@JLKaizen this is an insane cope I can't lie, whitebeard had a bigger fleet than big mom with just as many devil fruit users, all of which were at marineford, and none of them could help ace from magma damage. Out of all the thousands of members across his crew and allied forces, mind you.
@JLKaizen
@JLKaizen 6 ай бұрын
@@MayMoment_ ace didn’t have big mom’s endurance or stamina. Just because she fell in magma doesn’t mean she’s not able to be saved in one piece. It really depends how Oda writes it. He doesn’t like to kill people off
@jasonbrooks976
@jasonbrooks976 6 ай бұрын
I hoped Oda gave Sanji some rizz by saying something to her in wano before the big fight. Sanji coupd of asked "how the cake, was" while Luffy was declaring war. Episode. 996, maybe?
@itsjhitnotjit6292
@itsjhitnotjit6292 3 ай бұрын
8:10 “THEN WHO” 😂 Sebastian reaction was funny as heck; Blackbeard prolly has more reliable crew mates then both kid and law combined mainly for abilities tho. Loyalty is laws crew. But that kid and killer combo goes crazy
@taylorgang9553
@taylorgang9553 5 ай бұрын
The reason law extended the sword all the way through onigishima was to hold bm in place and pin her so she cant move so he and kid can get their combos off to finish her off
@AcksD.Bharlotte
@AcksD.Bharlotte 6 ай бұрын
5:05 Honestly the whole reason Law did that well in a clash against Blackbeard AND survived is due to the fanbase and their love for Law Oda can’t have everyone’s favorite character lose that badly, people out there SWEAR by Law (no pun intended)
@gsmoneybabyxxl7575
@gsmoneybabyxxl7575 6 ай бұрын
Ace was one of the most Beloved characters in series and we know how he ended up 🤷🏾
@gottagofast1548
@gottagofast1548 6 ай бұрын
@@gsmoneybabyxxl7575bro ace appeared 1 time in alabasta and the next time we se bro got packed by black beard and then executed, law has been around since sabaody
@greywarden5513
@greywarden5513 6 ай бұрын
Or that Law is really really strong. There isn’t a character who would t get hurt fighting Law
@flashyboy7122
@flashyboy7122 6 ай бұрын
@@gottagofast1548oda literally said in an sbs that Ace was his favorite character and that if he didn’t kill him he would’ve made him king of the pirates
@TRJ42
@TRJ42 6 ай бұрын
@@greywarden5513 bro law is a jobber he sucks. He loses every fight after punk hazard.
@mstr293
@mstr293 5 ай бұрын
Buggy:... And in defense to Big Mom, it's at least revealed in the Ace Novels (canon) that she's stronger physically and haki-wise than Old WB, who's only older by 4 years. Same source also say that she rivals Kaido in power. Idk what happened there, but I'm guessing her age played some factor as she's a decade older than Kaido.
@mstr293
@mstr293 5 ай бұрын
There's also this fact that she NEVER went all out vs Kidd/Law. For those asking why she would do that, just a reminder that even Kaido refrained from going all out until Gear 5. NO! Simply using his hybrid form doesn't mean that Luffy can match him in his "base" w/ ACoC. ACoC Luffy + Gear 4 Snakeman was already panting and complaining about how it is last "gear 4" and only needed one hit from Kaido before "dying". The Cp0 Agent only hasten the inevitable.
@mstr293
@mstr293 5 ай бұрын
Big Mom still has tricks up her sleeve that she never used vs Kidd/Law. Like ACoC attacks for example, Shanks has shown how devastating it is vs non-ACoC users by using it vs Kidd. BM did the same thing vs Ulti and Page One which are both Ancient Zoan users. Sure, it's BM's fault for playing with her food too much but we can't deny how much of a monster she is. My guess for her not using ACoC on her strikes is because she wants a DF showdown with Kidd/Law AND both are incapable of using ACoC. Kidd only has basic CoC so far.
@mstr293
@mstr293 5 ай бұрын
She defeated an army of Giants as a child, clashed ACoC with base Kaido for 3-straight days while both are still holding back, proving that she can clash with ACoC+Gear 4 Luffy considering she has much better stamina. Imagine ACoC+2-yr or more Lifespan Powerup BM? We never saw that. If BM was able to double her strength in just a year, she can get more power with 2 or more.
@mstr293
@mstr293 5 ай бұрын
Even her loss vs Kidd/Law can be considered a feat. Kidd+Law! Think about that for a second? 2v1, not fair from the start. She never used ACoC attacks vs them. The only ACoC she did was that "treat or life" thing when she was already falling from the hole Law created. Speaking of, Law literally made that so both him and Kidd could just yeet her from the island as they can't kill or at least disable her completely even with their strongest awakened attacks. The most damage they did is broke her ribs and arm, which she simply healed up. She was still battle-ready after that fall and Kidd/Law can't even use most of their power afterwards. Thanks to Law disabling her homies and her voice, plus the bomb and her fall to the Earth's mantle, she was finally "vanquished". I doubt it since she can literally turn magma into a homie plus like how she literally used prometheus as part of her hair. I believe her when she said that the lava won't be enough to kill her.
@NahshonMark
@NahshonMark 6 ай бұрын
What does pushback have to do with anything? Sebations point makes way more sense. Ppl warm up in fights almost no character goes all out in every single clash..
@KreyzAim
@KreyzAim 5 ай бұрын
She has a huge drawback but the power is unquestionable
@valdovaldo2224
@valdovaldo2224 3 ай бұрын
Shanks: "Stop underestimate Blackbeard bruh... as anyone been even listening to me ?"
@FalconKingMC
@FalconKingMC 5 ай бұрын
14:36 Larry saying this is like saying “If Haki transcends all why would anyone use their devil fruit?”
@TheAwawrestling
@TheAwawrestling 6 ай бұрын
These videos got me crying
@Asianstreetsfood
@Asianstreetsfood 6 ай бұрын
Oda was the one that made big mom a clown
@Lemon_Soda9
@Lemon_Soda9 2 ай бұрын
While Kaido's showings do seem to surpass Big Mom's when it comes to durability and raw combat, Big Mom hax is something else entirely. The only reason Kidd's Damned Punk managed to knock her off was because she couldn't use her fruit powers to suck the lifespan of the people nearby because Law used a room to silence her. Kidd was using his Damned Punk for a WHILE. This just goes to show how much hax regeneration Big Mom has, and even with Law silencing her, her durability remains top tier. If Kaido and Big mom were to fight with Big mom having access to people's life spans to fully utilize her fruit, I think she could even outlast Kaido in a full-powered fight.
@norahade6869
@norahade6869 4 ай бұрын
I love this passion 😂
@Brian0033
@Brian0033 5 ай бұрын
I do think people underestimate Big Mom a lot. She's fought kaido, rodger and whitebeard without a scratch on her. Nothing has been shown to be strong enough to actually hurt her other then attacks that phase through her defenses. And even then you needed to add in the ability to steal her voice so she couldn't make more Homies, and add a giant fall into a lava pit with a giant bomb. More then any other Yonko, i also think she is the one you can't wear down with numbers. Tossing thousands of marines at her gets them Soul Pocused and Mama and army of Homies to fight. I do think that Big Mom as shown is stronger then Marineford Whitebeard, she's certainly stronger then Buggy and Blackbeard. She is likely stronger then currently Luffy cause Luffy can't kep gear 5 up long enough to do the job. I also think she would deal with Gear 5 luffy better then Kaido did. That kind of silly power really got under Kaido's skin, since he wanted this grim bleak fight to the death because it fits his bleak worldview. Big mom already has some cartoon stuff going on herself so i don't think she'd be quite as phased. I think she and Kaido are about even, they did fight for days without a clear winner. I give Kaido a slight edge, mostly because there isn't as big a worry about something like the Pangs kicking in. Shanks we're still learning about, but the hints we have seen make it seem like he's gonna be a step up. But time will tell.
@shinichikudo1401
@shinichikudo1401 5 ай бұрын
I agree!
@itsjhitnotjit6292
@itsjhitnotjit6292 3 ай бұрын
4:40 Larry is right bb was struggling with law and even had his crew surrounding law. Just imagine how much more damage law would do if he wasn’t injured. Now adding if kidd was in there that’s just too much for Blackbeard to handle 😂
@the_swagborn7700
@the_swagborn7700 5 ай бұрын
He didn’t block it with the gura gura HE BLOCKED IT WITH GHE GURA GURA
@Stephen-yb7dk
@Stephen-yb7dk 6 ай бұрын
5 year old big mom is packing up every other yonko at that age, tell me i am lying
@danieln7591
@danieln7591 4 ай бұрын
I put my money on 5 year old kaido
@ekd8940
@ekd8940 6 ай бұрын
1.) Kaido is the strongest 2.) Big Mom 3.) Shanks 4.) Blackbeard/Luffy
@Blaisesoldier
@Blaisesoldier 6 ай бұрын
So law is landing that attack without someone holding BB down 😂
@murphydaquan
@murphydaquan 5 ай бұрын
Oda nerfed Big Mom and got the fandom in shambles
@deejohnson4208
@deejohnson4208 5 ай бұрын
SEB THAT NIGHTMARE SOUL CALIBER LINE HIT!
@myst2761
@myst2761 6 ай бұрын
Blackbeard when he got serious practically just used vortex and probably one shotted Law something Big Mom couldn't do for chapters. One clash doesn't determine it was a regular no-named attack from BB that clashed with Law's Awakening that severely hurt her. From what we seen Blackbeard Attack Potency is definitely more lethal than Big Mom's but she is getting underrated.
@kaidenjohnson2624
@kaidenjohnson2624 6 ай бұрын
You can't say he one shotted law when we don't know how long their fight was
@myst2761
@myst2761 6 ай бұрын
We see afterwards Blackbeard doesn't get any damage or injuries after, it definitely seems like after the kurozu it goes off-screen and he simply handed Law there with a move that Oda doesn't want to show. In the anime we also seen Marco & his crew lose after he pulled out his Koruzu move. @@kaidenjohnson2624
@jonathankigozi3373
@jonathankigozi3373 6 ай бұрын
I feel the reason law wasn’t pushed back was because of what they wanted to show, not BBs overwhelming power, it’s the fact that it took him far less effort, and could equal and stop law without breaking a sweat. Because in that same sense, why did shanks have to cock back so far to kill kid, he didn’t have to, but chose to
@hass512
@hass512 5 ай бұрын
Straight up point is, Blackbeard's fruit has him experience the attacks sent before he neutralizes them unless he does the kurozo thing ahead of time
@Quisy_4rm_Da_H
@Quisy_4rm_Da_H 5 ай бұрын
I'm going to be honest. The biggest disappointment with Kid that no one brings up...why doesn't Kid have an all metal ship....he controls magnetism. When he first was revealed I def thought he was going to have some metal ship and be able to transform it into some kind of mech that could travel on land or something
@RaulGonzalez-zg5ov
@RaulGonzalez-zg5ov 5 ай бұрын
Magellan is yanko level, wiped black beards crew. Basically killed Luffy, I wonder how he'd stack to the older yankos
@TheSwitzaHouse
@TheSwitzaHouse 5 ай бұрын
Big Mom: Strongest Lifeforce/Stamina Kaido: Strongest Damage Output Shanks: Strongest Haki Luffy: Strongest Hax/Adaptability BlackBeard: Strongest Abilities/Underhandedness WhiteBeard: All The Above Buggy: ... It comes out to how you tier list these aspects imo.
@praxeditz07
@praxeditz07 5 ай бұрын
Man every person has watched that BB is biggest scaredy cat ever in whole one piece he rush over to kill Whitebeard with his whole crew even when WB was verge of death so we all agree that Big mom easily could have kill Blackbeard ❤😂
@mahirsharma7789
@mahirsharma7789 5 ай бұрын
TBH I don't think BB defeated Law alone , We didn't saw the full fight and We do know that laws crewmates can't compete with BB commanders
@gilgameshjones4412
@gilgameshjones4412 6 ай бұрын
Saying big mum is the weakest is laughable. Gag or not she's washing old white bread
@MitchW18
@MitchW18 5 ай бұрын
If seb could articulate his points with a little less emotion, he would destroy larrys points lol. Seb be making points fr fr
@Peruzini_Videos
@Peruzini_Videos 6 ай бұрын
This is wild. Big Mon is Stronger than Blackbeard, Luffy e Buggy.
@armanireid3685
@armanireid3685 6 ай бұрын
Nah Luffy would beat her
@Peruzini_Videos
@Peruzini_Videos 6 ай бұрын
Yo saying tthat Luffy 5 minutus, he alone gonna win against her. She not falling by one punch like Kizaru. If Luffy could fight more than 5 minutes but he canot. @@armanireid3685
@Dr.HooWho
@Dr.HooWho 6 ай бұрын
Law has a very versatile power it also really helped.
@TheNomadicAceG
@TheNomadicAceG 5 ай бұрын
I dont understand people who hate on Blackbeard for using the Darkness fruit. Is there for decoration? Its like clowning Luffy for using any of his gears, why not use something in your arsenal
@Kidclip2k
@Kidclip2k 5 ай бұрын
You not beating a bald head in an argument
@GladdyX
@GladdyX 5 ай бұрын
Discord link has expired it says
@ThatOnePieceTalk
@ThatOnePieceTalk 5 ай бұрын
Discord.gg/TOPT
@richardy876
@richardy876 6 ай бұрын
Seb Lionel and Larry look the same person at different times of their life.
@nolans1675
@nolans1675 6 ай бұрын
Big mom isn’t the weakest in pure power but she’d lose to the other yonko due to other factors like trash Iq. She might be able to beat Luffy by outlasting him.
@mattmoore3297
@mattmoore3297 5 ай бұрын
Tied the clash, lost the war
@michaelmoore7794
@michaelmoore7794 6 ай бұрын
Buggy is obviously the weakest yonko and idk why he isn’t in the thumbnail
@Alloyd876
@Alloyd876 6 ай бұрын
😂kid aint touching BB on winner island he not even overcoming doc q abilty😂
@wearemusichq1417
@wearemusichq1417 5 ай бұрын
Cant wait for bb to do smt on screen to stop all this slander
@greywarden5513
@greywarden5513 6 ай бұрын
11:33 Did BB Gura Gura on Stronger? I think he might have but it’s been a while. The issue comes with the fact he’s on a living animal that has to deal with those shockwaves and Kidd’s Rail Gun isn’t a shot but a beam so it’s continuous energy being outputted, can see how people would think it would push BB back at least.
@slthking7672
@slthking7672 4 ай бұрын
I think the thing that Seb is mentally stuck on is the fact that Blackbeard SHOULD be stronger. He weilds 2 of the strangest devil fruits with decent haki. Its just that we can clearly see that he's not like that😂. He has one of the most bust3d DF but still no feats so we gotta give that to Big Mom 100%
@BryceBurkett
@BryceBurkett 6 ай бұрын
big mom hate is crazy. she is a tank
@ITZB.M.O
@ITZB.M.O 6 ай бұрын
W vid
@shadoow411
@shadoow411 6 ай бұрын
BM is indeed the weakest Yonko, the Law version BB fought was the upgraded version (who knows haki and how it works). The correct yonko tier is the following 1-Shanks 2-Kaido 3-Luffy 4-Blackbeard 5-Bigmom (BB and Luffy can swap with each other, mostly to the fact BB fights off-screen.
@greywarden5513
@greywarden5513 6 ай бұрын
BM would physically eat BB, he’s not in her weight class. He has not defense for her homies AND her Swordsmenship. He an Elbaf Spear victim. Luffy isn’t capable of going the distance with BM, I think her mindset and abilities work in her favor as well
@shadoow411
@shadoow411 6 ай бұрын
@@greywarden5513 Not entirely true, first of all, he doesn't need physicality, he can just use the Gura Gura no mi to maintain a distance. Plus he can just do Kiruzo/Vortex and she would be defenseless (Just like how he did to Law at the end of the chapter). Huh? LMFAO. Big mom durability/Endurance/Stamina aren't stronger than Kaido himself. Luffy surpassed Kaido in strength haki and speed. BM ain't tanking Luffy's punches with ACoC, when BM herself almost died to Kid's attack (With no haki in it) LMFAO. She is at best Law/Kid victim.
@greywarden5513
@greywarden5513 6 ай бұрын
@@shadoow411 Lol keep his distance with Gura quakes? BM is a better distance fighter has a deeper and more lethal bag. Why would BM be defenseless to vortex? How would he even get one off? He has to be the center of the effect, which means he has to be short range, 😂 he got hurt when taking a blow from WBs glaive, Napoleon is opening him up like a zipper. Luffy fought a Kaido that had already beaten and sustained damage from 17 people first of all, he did not surpass Kaido in strength or speed considering how much he was getting blitzed and overpowered, haki I’d give you, but once again this is a tired Kaido. Almost died? You dramatic pal, BM got up, regen her health and was good to go. She was still ready to fight before she got BFRd Luffy doesn’t have the stamina to keep up with both 100% BM outlasts him.
@shadoow411
@shadoow411 6 ай бұрын
​@@greywarden5513 Yes indeed, WB made the entire MF to rumble and made them lose balance, let alone the shockwaves he can create. No one is more lethal than BB when it comes to abilities, ignorant rider. The Quake Quake fruit is the strongest paramecia, and BB also has the strongest logia, the ability to disable DFs and suck things into the black hole. Vortex makes you valnuabre, look at both Ace and Boa, as Ace said, your only chance of attacking is before you get touched by Vortex, so if you get caught by Vortex you cant, and she is massive which makes her incapable of escaping Vortex. WB's haki is far superior than BM, which BTW couldn't hurt/damage Law nor Kid LMFAO. Are you seriously riding BM after her performance against Law and Kid? LMFAO. Yes, Luffy did surpass Kaido in strength and speed, he was blitzing him and Hybrid Kaido was drawing with base Luffy, let alone G5, let alone his Barjeing gun LMFAO. Luffy took down Kaido in his strongest form. Haki is a soul/spirit power, it has nothing to do whether you're tired or not. Luffy's discovery to ACoC was way early before anyone damaged Kaido enough, and he was keeping Kaido at bay in base LMFAO. Yes she almost died, she didn't regen, she had to eat some of her own life span to get back on, only to be defeated again. Luffy not only wipes the floor with BM, he will also outlast her, unlike Kid and Law, she won't have enough time to eat her soul. If Kid's hakiless move almosted killer her, imagine a G5 Barejing gun coated with ACoC and ACoA, the same ACoC that was beating up Kaido LMFAO. Man you're hilarious
@greywarden5513
@greywarden5513 6 ай бұрын
@@shadoow411 Smh I appreciate your passion. You are wrong in a great many places but I’m glad you care about it😂 Let’s begin, WB made the entirety of MF tumble and lose their balance. My guy, you do know BM isn’t on the ground right? She’d be flying with Hera😅 so no she’s not gonna lose her balance because her homie isn’t bound to the ground. Every Yonko not named buggy is more lethal than BB in abilities my son. Kaido, deeper more lethal bag, Shanks, more lethal bag, Luffy, more lethal/varied bag, BM lethal and somehow the biggest Bag of the bunch🤭 Vortex does not make you vulnerable. What it does is drag you towards him with a gravitational pull and Rob the use of DFs. In both Ace and Hancock’s case they were both dragged in and over powered true enough, but they are both smaller and physically weaker than Teach. Neither is true for BM, BB uses Vortex on Lin Lin and she either beats him to death or cuts him in half. WBs haki was superior to BMs….when he was Primebeard 😅 Marineford WB’s haki was weak and unreliable, he did his damage with his DF mastery and physical strength alone. Did you not see Kidd and Law? They both were very hurt, now I know you’re just being silly. Dude Kaido blitzed Gear 5 Luffy, he was at his fastest and Kaido was blowing right by him as a streak of energy, what are you talking about?! Haki is a soul/spirit power….that we’ve seen run out several times, hell we’ve seen Luffy run out of haki several times😅 My guy how are you going to dispute your own claim in the same sentence you made it? “Yes she almost died, she didn’t regen, she had to eat some of her own lifespan to get back on, only to be defeated again” 😂 dude, that’s her regen, she uses her life force to do it🤭 Are you sure you watch One Piece? For all your laughing your points are weak and easily proven false. You might be watching 3 piece my guy, come back when you watch the official 😂
@Bladagun_One_Piece_card_game
@Bladagun_One_Piece_card_game 2 ай бұрын
We can argue a lot if he make that, and that... And if law don't cut pegasus but blackbeard in half... It's what oda want to do so oda clearly not make blackbeard lose
@FN2S5L
@FN2S5L 5 ай бұрын
Kid killed her when we Exected Luffy to
@SergioFlores-uo2bz
@SergioFlores-uo2bz 5 ай бұрын
What if big mom was in her territory!? She would be unstable do to having life everywhere around her to grab when she was hurt. RIGHT!
@madpanger7257
@madpanger7257 3 ай бұрын
"Sword was smaller in the fight vs blackbeard, thats why he could punch it" Do you even understand law's ability. It doesnt matter how big the sword is, the same technique applies. The only reason it was this big vs big mom, was to hit the magma in wano. Not sure about word for word but law said smth like this. "Go to the depths of the earth" implying it was just about depth and not about increasing the power. Killer could do serious damage vs Blackbeards crew but there is no way he beats burgess. Yes he can probably 1shot van auger and the disease guy, but he will never hit van auger because he doesnt have the observation haki and with Burgess it becomes a power clash he will loose. The only guy he will get rid of is the disease guy.
@ericlopez1984
@ericlopez1984 5 ай бұрын
Bb is heavily slept on, final boss fight right there with luffy
@MARSMamba
@MARSMamba 5 ай бұрын
Ngl i have a hate/love relationship with one piece power system bc Oda plays to much with his characters he shows you how out of this world one character is just to show you that oh this one character is struggling against someone they have no business struggling against. 😅 it makes for interesting convo something and other times you get the one piece weirdo that can't be object at all and thinks their favorite characters no diff anyone you put then up against. 😅 it's weird.
@mirrorman345
@mirrorman345 5 ай бұрын
Tbh I dont remember if Kaido ever used the Uo Uo No Mi against Big Mom. Its my opinion that without his zoan boost and using her hunger rage, Biggy is equal to Kaido. Otherwise? In a 1v1. Always. Bet. On. Kaido.
@lil7xxgaming851
@lil7xxgaming851 5 ай бұрын
BIG QUESTION! In Wano if things was switch luffy vs big mom and kaido vs kid and law. Do you think luffy would needed gear 5 to beat her ? I already law and kid gettting slap lol
@danieln7591
@danieln7591 4 ай бұрын
If she actually started going full power yes
@marcusfrm6263
@marcusfrm6263 5 ай бұрын
Bro I hate when people say these older people aren’t in their prime like these people that’s barely even 20 is in their prime. Dumass logic
@kriscontents3248
@kriscontents3248 6 ай бұрын
Kaido is taking that railgun head on
@lancetupaea9742
@lancetupaea9742 3 ай бұрын
Is Big Mom coming back Elabaf?
@velenciaga
@velenciaga 5 ай бұрын
None of the other yonko got dropped by Franky
@samueldacus6390
@samueldacus6390 6 ай бұрын
I’d agree the list goes 1. Shanks 2. Big Mom 3. Kaido 4. Luffy 5. Blackbeard 6. Buggy
@bennyarnold7876
@bennyarnold7876 6 ай бұрын
I got her as second weakest, with current BB as the weakest. Although EOS BB (I feel like he'll get one more power-up), will 100% be stronger meaning that overall by the EOS she'd be the weakest Yonko of the story other than Old WB.
@mhardy6138
@mhardy6138 6 ай бұрын
🔥🔥🔥
@Bearshark8
@Bearshark8 5 ай бұрын
I hate one piece talks about devil fruit powers like its a matter of fact what they can and can't do. It's more fun to argue what you think they can . Larry talks about it like it can only be one way. I still got love for larry though
@meekdolla4883
@meekdolla4883 3 ай бұрын
Y’all saying if luffy fought big mom rather than kaido he would lose is totally crazy saying law and kid work beat kaido is even more crazy
@Kilo1992
@Kilo1992 5 ай бұрын
The downplay of bb amazing. Shanks is focusing on bb not kaido or bm says a lot about bb. And the fact that bb fight is almost off screen tells you that oda is hiding something.
@vampiranya9939
@vampiranya9939 6 ай бұрын
In your discussion about Kid on Winner Island, you forget that the first thing BB start doing is throwing shockwaves and tsunamis at Law's submarine, the only reason why they hold this long before going on island is because it was a submarine, BB would sink and crush Kids ship with tsunami and shockwaves much earlier and also faster than Kid finnaly charged up his Damn Punk. And still if Kid will be faster and shot BB ship before BB sink his, Ogr will teleport them on island, if Kid is smart and knows his limits he would continue shoting Damn Punks at him from distance, but he is not, he will go to them and get beaten or if he not, BB will sink his ship while being on the island anyway.
@KT-sw6er
@KT-sw6er 5 ай бұрын
I don’t watch these guys too much but it seems like every time I do Sebastian be right and everyone just can’t understand why he is or is debating for agenda. I would like to add that doesn’t mean Sebastian doesn’t do the same.
@Leviticusrich
@Leviticusrich 6 ай бұрын
I like anime debates but sometimes people neglect aspects of narrative that strengthen or weaken characters. Example: saying a character fought for days is a meaningless variable used SOLELY to make off screen feats seem cool. If anything, a long fight invalidates a character bc it suggests either character is strong enough to effectively finish another or challenge the other. It’s like saying Jinbei is stronger than gear 5 luffy bc he fought ace for a long time while gear 5 doesn’t last long. Okay, but what ig luffy is just so overwhelmingly strong that he wins in 10 mins anime time? Another example is trying to assume feats of character based on limited screen time. I think BB is a victim of this. BB has few on screen feats and it seems consistent that bb is strong or weak based solely on narrative. He was a commander on WBs crew along with ace (who is heavily power boosted in off screen feats but never on screen) and could contend with the same ace that fought a warlord and jinbei. He also wounded a shanks that “didn’t have his guard down and wasn’t careless”. But on screen, we only see a goofier side of bb bc narratively it seems likely that oda has a surprise with his powers. Based on a combo of feats (seen and unseen) and mild speculation in a totally 1v1 situation this is my ranking off ALL yonko we've had. 1) BB 2) Shanks 3) WB 4) luffy 5) kaido 6) big mom 7) buggy 🤡
@tamarcthomas4412
@tamarcthomas4412 6 ай бұрын
Old generation Shanks
@gsmoneybabyxxl7575
@gsmoneybabyxxl7575 6 ай бұрын
MJ meme : Stop it Get Some Help
@nathanmiller4056
@nathanmiller4056 5 ай бұрын
Just curious but after watching this and you all discussing Luffys potential… what if Kizaru didn’t get the food for Luffy , but he some how finally figured out how to make himself food , it was never shown and it’s cmon it’s Luffy , he might not even realize he did this and just be happy to have some meat 😂😂 just a thought though 🤷🏼‍♂️
@Jaafar_Alkhalifa
@Jaafar_Alkhalifa 5 ай бұрын
1) Shanks 2) Kaido 3) Bigmom 4) Luffy 5) Whitebeard (Old) 6) Blackbeard (as of 1105)
@Jonah1719
@Jonah1719 3 ай бұрын
Sebastian always speaking facts bro
@StillerAtol__
@StillerAtol__ 6 ай бұрын
BM for is the average Yonko lvl while I don’t believe that BB and luffy beat her most occasion unless they have planned ahead they are below her Shanks WB and Kaido are above who I believe can beat her most of the time old whitebeard would loose due to sickness
@user-tk7xw5kd6l
@user-tk7xw5kd6l 5 ай бұрын
Buggy? Lol
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