Clickbait is Unreasonably Effective

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@kurzgesagt
@kurzgesagt 3 жыл бұрын
Legitbait is a really cool term. Super interesting video! The reality is that you have to be interesting with your thumbnails and titles or people will not watch them so we always have used clickbait (hopefully closer to legitbait) in the hope that our videos then are actually filled with enough substance that people will leave satisfied. We never tried switching out thumbnails though, might experiment with that!
@amiraslanbakhshili5420
@amiraslanbakhshili5420 3 жыл бұрын
I read the comment in an English accent
@destra4531
@destra4531 3 жыл бұрын
Nah, your videos are super interesting and cool. I dont think you need it :p
@adamadams7107
@adamadams7107 3 жыл бұрын
100% your videos are legitbait, I’m never disappointed with a Kurzgesagt video
@subodhthallada3270
@subodhthallada3270 3 жыл бұрын
Can't believe I am one of the first commenters for your comment
@molrk
@molrk 3 жыл бұрын
No matter what the title or thumbnail, I’ll always watch a video of yours!
@jonathangrant4247
@jonathangrant4247 3 жыл бұрын
This guy really just stood on a ladder and gave a power point presentation
@Baalaaxa
@Baalaaxa 3 жыл бұрын
That's Derek for you. Gotta love his commitment and quality content.
@Daye04
@Daye04 3 жыл бұрын
And I absolutely loved it
@TheChangeYT
@TheChangeYT 3 жыл бұрын
Cool idea 👍
@niqaily4415
@niqaily4415 3 жыл бұрын
It was unreasonably effective
@gubx42
@gubx42 3 жыл бұрын
That's a stepladder
@ChineseCookingDemystified
@ChineseCookingDemystified 3 жыл бұрын
"I'm terrible at making clickbait" says one of the people with the strongest title/thumbnail games on the platform. Seriously, the past two years of Veritasium has been a case study in how to make clickable videos while still respecting the intelligence of the audience.
@WanderTheNomad
@WanderTheNomad 3 жыл бұрын
I can't believe I only just now noticed that you guys don't have a verified checkmark. ..Why is that? 🤔
@AkariInsko
@AkariInsko 3 жыл бұрын
okay fine
@vijayabhaskar-j
@vijayabhaskar-j 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, I have discussions on reddit that Mark Rober and Veritasium have cracked the code to KZbin algorithm.
@Eridu
@Eridu 3 жыл бұрын
wow i could never have said it better, that's exactly it
@tennoki
@tennoki 3 жыл бұрын
He's reflecting on his entire time in KZbin. For the longest time, he never bothered with his title/thumbnail game.
@thatbaccus
@thatbaccus Жыл бұрын
When I first came across Veritasium I looked at the titles and thought "That's garbage, can't be true, clearly clickbait" and moved on. Then some of the researchers I worked with were talking (actually arguing) about a particularly interesting idea on a Veritasium vid, which got me to watch it - and I realised while the titles were absolutely crazy and hard to believe, they were also true. The great thing about this channel is that the team finds interesting and wild ideas that sound like they can't be true, and yet are - they use clickbait language that still manages to not be true (unlike so many that misinform willingly/intentionally). Bring on the legitbait!
@MonkeyJedi99
@MonkeyJedi99 Жыл бұрын
I passed over the first Veritasium video I was recommended because my brain connected the channel name with some channels I had recently been duped by that also had "latin-esque" names. But the second time one was recommended, I watched, and watched some more, and through this channel got into Steve Mould, and through Steve got into Matt Parker. Another channel that got recommended to me from watching Veritasium was Xyla Foxlin, from which I started watching Allen Pan, who may also have been recommended because I watched Kyle Hill (the Mythbusters 2 competition link). - The recommendation engine is sometimes good, but more than half the time recommends things I don't care about, or channels I actively hate. If KZbin never recommends a Joe Rogan video to me again, I might die happy.
@DavidMuri-lm5vy
@DavidMuri-lm5vy Жыл бұрын
IT'S MISTER. BEAST!!!!!!!!!!!!! Everyone please sing the mister beast outro song!!!!!!!!!!! ❤❤❤❤❤❤
@ryans5073
@ryans5073 Жыл бұрын
His whole point is that the vids are for educating most people not people who are actively working in or around research like yourself
@HateMerchant
@HateMerchant 9 ай бұрын
​@@DavidMuri-lm5vywierdo
@knihovnik2
@knihovnik2 9 ай бұрын
Similar here. I got recommended the asteroid video (with the new title) and went like: "Ok, I know Veritasium is a great channel but this doesn't sound very interesting", and yet when in this video he started talking about "Asteroids: Earth's biggest threat" I was like: "Oh, this video sounds very interesting", only to be surprised that they're the same video.
@Afrotechmods
@Afrotechmods 3 жыл бұрын
I remember back in 2009 KZbin had an option to report videos that had misleading titles or thumbnails. Nowadays if you do it they invite you to KZbin HQ and put you in a Rewind video.
@misaaFPS
@misaaFPS 3 жыл бұрын
mate your comment got botted
@RyanUnbarringSlinkyOrgan
@RyanUnbarringSlinkyOrgan 3 жыл бұрын
Sheesh 🍩🍩🍩
@straddlescout1220
@straddlescout1220 3 жыл бұрын
someone give this person a cookie
@nathanvarghese.
@nathanvarghese. 3 жыл бұрын
Funny how he interviewed Mrbeast - He's the one who does most clickbait on youtube!!!!!!!!
@dhc2
@dhc2 3 жыл бұрын
@@nathanvarghese. how? anything he puts in the title is in the vid
@EazySpeezy
@EazySpeezy 3 жыл бұрын
This is such an interesting topic for youtubers. How a super small change in the title/thumbnail could provide a drastic change in the results of the video, while still trying to stay true to the actual content
@crimsondragon2677
@crimsondragon2677 3 жыл бұрын
You watch Veritasium?
@JM-us3fr
@JM-us3fr 3 жыл бұрын
Having a second channel with other speed runners tends to help too
@pvic6959
@pvic6959 3 жыл бұрын
dang, I see you be doin some research! Next video: "I speedrun making a clickbait thumbnail"? LOL.. wait I kinda like that idea. it would be fun/interesting to see how fast you can edit a thumbnail and we'd get a "behind the scenes" sorta thing too!
@SpiritSlayer1
@SpiritSlayer1 3 жыл бұрын
Hi
@sameetpatil_5
@sameetpatil_5 3 жыл бұрын
Look now he is even speed running KZbin
@ironnick6399
@ironnick6399 2 жыл бұрын
You're genuine. I hate that anyone making click bait could hide behind this spectacular video, but you've exonerated yourself. Recently found and now love your videos.
@lukas1891
@lukas1891 3 жыл бұрын
Props to Derek for permanently letting a projector shine into his eyes for the whole record.
@Indrakusuma_a
@Indrakusuma_a 3 жыл бұрын
And standing awkwardly on top of a ladder
@nasreddinegalfout8893
@nasreddinegalfout8893 3 жыл бұрын
Look at the shadow. It is not
@crisp.6341
@crisp.6341 3 жыл бұрын
lmao
@sid6645
@sid6645 3 жыл бұрын
Props*?
@richardmillhousenixon
@richardmillhousenixon 3 жыл бұрын
@@nasreddinegalfout8893 Yes it is. Otherwise his face would not be lit at all
@veritasium
@veritasium 3 жыл бұрын
In case you're wondering, the recent title/thumb change seems to be effective - from "We Need to Talk About Clickbait [It's Important. I'll Explain With Data]" to "Clickbait is Unreasonably Effective [Here's The Proof]"... The problem is I know a bunch of you are clicking on this video to comment on the title and thumbnail change so that looks like a spike in engagement but then you comment and leave, which may make YT think the new title no longer appropriately represents the video. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@arceusfromyt9084
@arceusfromyt9084 3 жыл бұрын
That makes sense
@whooozitz
@whooozitz 3 жыл бұрын
So if the universe begins to unravel in the next few hours we know who to blame?
@ryanisdoneby
@ryanisdoneby 3 жыл бұрын
The algorithm only fed me this video after you’d updated your title. I’m a sub, so, make of that what you will 😅
@erpasptstark2487
@erpasptstark2487 3 жыл бұрын
Hopefully it actually is a better combo
@ToX1CxHaZe
@ToX1CxHaZe 3 жыл бұрын
i have always wondered why when i first see you upload a new video, the video title suddenly changes after 24 - 72 hours and i was curious as to why.. well now i know why and i completely understand where you're coming from. props to you for being so honest and engaging with your audience. well done my friend.
@HauntingTube
@HauntingTube 3 жыл бұрын
Would have never clicked for strange applications of Magnus Effect!! But I click on every video of yours now, irrespective of thumbnail or title :)
@hatethisfamehatethisgame
@hatethisfamehatethisgame 3 жыл бұрын
Bruh
@mathlegendno12
@mathlegendno12 3 жыл бұрын
Verified with no comments?
@mathlegendno12
@mathlegendno12 3 жыл бұрын
Not nymore
@anubhabdas7370
@anubhabdas7370 3 жыл бұрын
Jai Hind bhai!🙏
@yourstrulytk12worldaffairs
@yourstrulytk12worldaffairs 3 жыл бұрын
awww
@DerekKerton
@DerekKerton Жыл бұрын
Guy climbs up a ladder, and you WON'T BELIEVE what happens next!!!
@menacingcar0449
@menacingcar0449 Ай бұрын
(I talked to MR BEAST!?!)
@RealEngineering
@RealEngineering 3 жыл бұрын
I use “clickworthy”
@angelo.strand
@angelo.strand 3 жыл бұрын
Click clarity
@JamezMartinez
@JamezMartinez 3 жыл бұрын
You stole that from Linus
@alonsovm2880
@alonsovm2880 3 жыл бұрын
*"The Insane Engeneering behind clickbait!*
@devoltar
@devoltar 3 жыл бұрын
And yours generally are :) I mentioned this in another comment but your thumbnails also have something Veritasium's need more of - consistent branding/style. I see your videos pop up in my feed and I know who it is and that I should click on it without looking further, which increases the frequency KZbin recommends them to me. The Veritasium videos I click the fastest have Derek's face in them.
@pvic6959
@pvic6959 3 жыл бұрын
Veritasium is clickworthy. "OMG you wont BELEOVE what happens next" and the video is dumb is click bait
@fletcherfrost9266
@fletcherfrost9266 3 жыл бұрын
I love how openly self-conscious you are about not only whether or not you are making the best content you can, but doing the right thing in the process. People say it's bad to overthink these things, but the alternative is far worse.
@BobbyDukeArts
@BobbyDukeArts 3 жыл бұрын
Titles and thumbnails are the thing I stress about the most. This was very insightful. Thank you!
@lilchico4381
@lilchico4381 3 жыл бұрын
Hi
@iamjimgroth
@iamjimgroth 3 жыл бұрын
Your content speaks for itself though. You could number your videos, in name and thumbnail, and people would flock to them.
@veritasium
@veritasium 3 жыл бұрын
It's the thing I stress about the most too!
@williamchamberlain2263
@williamchamberlain2263 3 жыл бұрын
@@veritasium I think that most scientists have a hard time with paper titles too. Also: KZbin shorts please, a la ActionLabs and The Spiffing Brit
@maskboy2743
@maskboy2743 3 жыл бұрын
@@veritasium Can you make another video on the kuramoto model explaining it? I liked it so much i want part 2!
@millicentduke6652
@millicentduke6652 3 жыл бұрын
I love anti-clickbait. It’s like “here’s the short answer, but we both know I made a video because the long answer is crazy interesting”, and like… fair.
@tehalexy
@tehalexy 3 жыл бұрын
yeah, those "anti-clickbaits" are unresistable for me. Adam Neely is damn good at it. I love this because you know in a tl;dr what you get but its well made and interesting.
@TheMusicalFruit
@TheMusicalFruit 3 жыл бұрын
Anti-clickbait is win win, in my opinion. You get the effect of clickbait but you also continue to respect the intelligence of your audience. Do salt lamps work? Anyone with a basic understanding of chemistry and physics would probably guess the answer is "No" but I was very interested to see how the channel investigated the question.
@merlinkater7756
@merlinkater7756 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Check the thumbnail of "How Much Money I Made From Game Development This Past Year" by Miziziziz. Great example.
@dancinswords
@dancinswords 3 жыл бұрын
It's kind of like a guarantee; they're willing to give away the short answer for free, so the long answer _must_ be interesting. It also feels ballsy and subversive, which engenders respect
@GermaphobeMusic
@GermaphobeMusic 3 жыл бұрын
This is what I love about Tom Scott and Vsauce. Sometimes, the simplest things can create the most intrigue.
@elouansimon
@elouansimon 4 ай бұрын
Yo, how are we small channels supposed to compete when the big guys are boosting themselves with tools like sem rush and social plus? Feels like we're grinding hard but not getting the same visibility. Anyway, wishing everyone luck on their growth!
@elouansimon
@elouansimon 3 ай бұрын
@@Galeriarch haha good point
@alpine9214
@alpine9214 3 ай бұрын
Government regulations for monopolizing?
@benmiche2027
@benmiche2027 2 ай бұрын
and this comment alone is a click bait 😉
@mrcat6433
@mrcat6433 2 ай бұрын
Use the same tricks, make thumbnails with more click-appeal
@CanIHasThisName
@CanIHasThisName Ай бұрын
Small channels have a much easier time to grow and sustain growth. KZbin actually goes out of its way to promote smaller channels.
@m1a1jake
@m1a1jake 3 жыл бұрын
The key difference is that your videos actually deliver the satisfaction that the title and thumbnail teases us with.
@cristianestrada5381
@cristianestrada5381 2 жыл бұрын
Legitbait
@jaceycrouch4917
@jaceycrouch4917 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly. When a subscriber is consistently dissatisfied by starving curiosity then this falls apart. Thankfully I have yet to find a video that was misrepresented on this channel.
@AceFaz
@AceFaz 2 жыл бұрын
Type 1 clickbait- He's pretty bad at it though, this guy didn't even put, "(ft. MrBeast)" in this title xD
@Alic4444
@Alic4444 2 жыл бұрын
@@AceFaz 😂
@lyricsassam
@lyricsassam 2 жыл бұрын
@@AceFaz that's the point, I don't click on Veritasium's videos to see Mr. Beast.
@smartereveryday
@smartereveryday 3 жыл бұрын
Yup
@Jam-zc1fo
@Jam-zc1fo 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@nathijomac
@nathijomac 3 жыл бұрын
I concur
@levivanveen6568
@levivanveen6568 3 жыл бұрын
well said
@josiahbarnes2519
@josiahbarnes2519 3 жыл бұрын
yup
@sgnosymfoemos
@sgnosymfoemos 3 жыл бұрын
I disagree. Here's why:
@StevenHe
@StevenHe 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for being so truthful👑 you’ll always be a legend in my eyes
@Rekker1
@Rekker1 3 жыл бұрын
Yo it's the guy from Beijing corn
@marclabouchardiere8713
@marclabouchardiere8713 3 жыл бұрын
yo didn't know the ceo of Beijing corn was interested by clickbait
@sugunyt1800
@sugunyt1800 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Steven one of your biggest fan here
@justicebydeathnote
@justicebydeathnote 3 жыл бұрын
STOOPID
@thebarkingmouse
@thebarkingmouse 3 жыл бұрын
"Stuff with the most engagement rises to the top." Utter BS. "Stuff that fits Wojcicki's & the woke mafia rises to the top, while inconvenient facts are buried. Fixed it for you.
@BrookeRooney
@BrookeRooney 2 жыл бұрын
I love the transparency of this video!!! Not only is this super helpful for the average viewer to be aware of, and the budding content creator to be aware of-but you're also able to highlight the values of you and your channel! I applaud the hell out of you for this. Seriously. Thank you
@MateusRapini
@MateusRapini 3 жыл бұрын
The BEST non-clickbait clickbait video I've ever seen!
@nathanvarghese.
@nathanvarghese. 3 жыл бұрын
Funny how he interviewed Mrbeast - He's the one who does most clickbait on youtube!!!!!!!!
@shalomnoah7309
@shalomnoah7309 3 жыл бұрын
🙌🏼
@blockbusterng
@blockbusterng 3 жыл бұрын
(not clickbait)
@rizwantarar4208
@rizwantarar4208 3 жыл бұрын
Naah man ... you got click baited to this click bait video
@krifik_kentang
@krifik_kentang 3 жыл бұрын
Type I clickbait
@23iros
@23iros 3 жыл бұрын
I think "The Secret of Synchronization" might outperform "The Surprising Secret of Synchronization" because the audience learned that "Surprising" often leads to Type II clickbaits.
@snuffeldjuret
@snuffeldjuret 3 жыл бұрын
indeed
@kimvangvideomarketerbangko3265
@kimvangvideomarketerbangko3265 3 жыл бұрын
I also think it moved the emphasis away from "secret," which is more powerful than "surprising."
@百合仙子
@百合仙子 3 жыл бұрын
Indeed. And I'm not surprised. Realizing a title is fake feels pretty bad and frustrated, and being not surprised like the title says suggests I might not be the target audience.
@RaptorNX01
@RaptorNX01 3 жыл бұрын
@@百合仙子 plus the majority of the time you aren't actually surprised. esp given that you often click on videos that are already within the realm of your knowledge or interests. to use a recent example I saw, if there is some video claiming to reveal some secret about the matrix films, you likely will only click on it if you know about or are a fan of those films. the only people likely to ever actually be surprised are people that probably would never click on such a video.
@aucklandnewzealand2023
@aucklandnewzealand2023 3 жыл бұрын
We Synchronized and found out the hidden secret
@IMredard
@IMredard 3 жыл бұрын
"I'm terrible at making clickbait" I believe you, even though you had Mr.Beast in your video you didn't use him as a clickbait in the thumbnail. Great Video
@mkannan
@mkannan 3 жыл бұрын
Check back again in a few days :P
@alexpaw3493
@alexpaw3493 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly what I was about to comment, lol
@rudi-gs2pd
@rudi-gs2pd 3 жыл бұрын
i was about to comment same thing lol
@Rishabh_Joshi_
@Rishabh_Joshi_ 3 жыл бұрын
😂
@meltice_official
@meltice_official 3 жыл бұрын
Lmao, but if you hover over the video, the preview shows Mr. Beast in it, this has to be some advance lvl planing and non can tell me different
@xmartofskyx
@xmartofskyx 2 жыл бұрын
I was to send Veritasium team a message exactly on this topic! I was getting your videos on my feed for sometime now, but avoiding them because the titles and thumbnails looked like clickbait. Last week I finally gave up and decided to watch one. I was so happy I had finally found a channel about science that is serious rather than sensational (on a personal note, this what I miss most about science channels on television)... And was thinking to myself, now that I know about the channel, I'd watch any video, even if the title sounds more "classical" or "boring". Now the reason is explained. Thanks for making the content that you make, see you around!
@EvanAndKatelyn
@EvanAndKatelyn 3 жыл бұрын
It's been really interesting watching the title and thumbnail of this video change! Loved the video
@Synotics
@Synotics 3 жыл бұрын
Same! Was here first at something along the lines of "im bad at clickbait" , now back (8/19/21 3:44 CST) and its "Clickbait is Unreasonably Effective"
@Synotics
@Synotics 3 жыл бұрын
But I think same thumbnail? I'm hoping there will be a follow-up from Veritasium that goes over all the titles/thumbnails.
@skodrox2687
@skodrox2687 3 жыл бұрын
potatoes
@onikinhas
@onikinhas 3 жыл бұрын
Look! It's my favorite creator couple on on one of my favorite channels ❤️
@jaredwatson6013
@jaredwatson6013 3 жыл бұрын
The first one I saw was “the truth about clickbait”
@dw6600
@dw6600 3 жыл бұрын
Day 1: “We need to talk about clickbait” Day 2: “Mr. Beast and I need to talk about clickbait” Day 3: "Mr. Beast and I almost died when we talked about clickbait"
@thommylicious
@thommylicious 3 жыл бұрын
Day 4: "Mr. Beast and I almost died. GOING SUS / POSSIBLE INTERCOURSE"
@tommytomthms5
@tommytomthms5 3 жыл бұрын
day 4: I shot Mr. Beast! 😱 (with information)
@xarpe3806
@xarpe3806 3 жыл бұрын
Underrated comment
@yomer355
@yomer355 3 жыл бұрын
day 666: amogus
@aidanjanemcintosh6919
@aidanjanemcintosh6919 3 жыл бұрын
Day 5: It's all over. End of our channels?
@The8BitGuy
@The8BitGuy 3 жыл бұрын
As a creator, I'm all too familiar with this problem. And it stinks for me because I'd rather spend all of my time focused on creating the content, but instead I have to waste a lot of time finding the right thumbnails. And I still to this day have some of my best videos that rarely get viewed because I simply haven't figured out the right clickbait for them.
@vautier_
@vautier_ 3 жыл бұрын
What are your best videos that go unnoticed?
@Kandralla
@Kandralla 3 жыл бұрын
You're the opposite to my comment above. Veratassium rarely gets a view from me because "picture with a word" = click bait and I don't even bother looking at the creator. I'll click on yours because I know I enjoy your content and your branding is consistent. Its a really shitty thing that Google has created here.
@bhatkrishnakishor
@bhatkrishnakishor 3 жыл бұрын
Hi
@JinseiMatterswithRoy
@JinseiMatterswithRoy 3 жыл бұрын
We have something in common. Spend lot of time creating educational videos and yet less than a hundred views 🤦‍♀️
@Rpendrick
@Rpendrick 3 жыл бұрын
Eh as a subscriber with notifications to both you and Veritasium I see everything and tend to skip clickbaity titles. Unless like Veritasium’s and they aren’t flat out insultingly desperate.
@flowersArePretty1
@flowersArePretty1 9 ай бұрын
After this was posted I realized that your thumbnails are a perfect balance, in the title you state what the video is about, “the most misunderstood concept in physics”, but then to not withhold information, the thumbnail is one word “entropy” so the viewers get a taste on what the concept and video is about
@BasicallyHomeless
@BasicallyHomeless 3 жыл бұрын
Man this was so great to watch. Legitbait is hard when you’re overthinking. How can one get in touch with these title and thumbnail experts? 😅🤝
@tyriekovco711
@tyriekovco711 3 жыл бұрын
Thought you died 😳🥺
@shadow_stalk
@shadow_stalk 3 жыл бұрын
You dont need a clickbait when your smacking kids on r6s with a POTATO!! Title smacking kids in r6s with a potato!!!!!
@BasicallyHomeless
@BasicallyHomeless 3 жыл бұрын
@@tyriekovco711 had baby vid soon
@olivertuomola
@olivertuomola 3 жыл бұрын
@@BasicallyHomeless lol congrats!
@OkieDokieSmokie
@OkieDokieSmokie 3 жыл бұрын
Misder Hummus is here?
@giulianoTantelo
@giulianoTantelo 3 жыл бұрын
"I want to make science documentaries in youtube that puts broadcast to shame" And to be honest, you have. It made me reflect on how have I got into interesting science topics in the last 8 years, and its been mostly through your videos. And thats a lot because I just graduated as a biologist! It is thanks to your videos and videos from others like Michael from Vsauce that I keep finding my passion about science. So thank you. I always go back to some of your videos (What is not random and Our Greatest Delusion) because they are truly inspirational. You are the Carl Sagan of a generation!
@samuelthecamel
@samuelthecamel 3 жыл бұрын
I actually watched a TV documentary recently and it was absolute garbage compared to what I saw on KZbin for the same topic.
@zncon
@zncon 3 жыл бұрын
After getting used to good KZbin creators, traditional broadcast educational material has been basically ruined for me. The cuts, excessive editing, overly dramatic acting and more things I only just 'feel' really make them less enjoyable to watch these days. As an example - I used to love Mythbusters but I can't go back and rewatch it because there's only a few minutes of real content and the rest is just hype and acting.
@ThunderDraws
@ThunderDraws 3 жыл бұрын
This is so true - some KZbin creators are just outstanding and just the best in the world - bigger budgets don’t help there either (if you don’t have the talent)
@KevinStratvert
@KevinStratvert 3 жыл бұрын
KZbin should properly support a/b testing in creator studio. It would make this type of performance analysis a lot easier and would likely benefit the platform.
@genericuser1454
@genericuser1454 3 жыл бұрын
It would be nice but I don't think it would be very easy for them to actually pull off
@GalileoCap
@GalileoCap 3 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure they did for a while but ended up scrapping it
@mistersir
@mistersir 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that was my immediate thought too, but I think there's one really difficult problem to solve Let's say I watch a video called "Why clickbait is bad!" My friend tells to search it on KZbin I try to find that video, but I can't, because for ME it's actually called "The science of clickbait". But because I don't know that since KZbin is A/B testing me, I never find it I tell him I can't find it, so he sends me a link. but now is someone who maybe hasn't really used KZbin before, I'm extremely confused why I wasn't able to find the video until he sent me the link
@pratikharani3102
@pratikharani3102 3 жыл бұрын
@@mistersir that's a really good point indeed. A/B testing does have its downsides I suppose.
@randommcranderson5155
@randommcranderson5155 3 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure it would actively make clickbait more common than already there, and make the entire platform worse.
@RonniesRambles
@RonniesRambles Жыл бұрын
I could not stop watching this video. You have opened my eyes to the very thing missing from my titles and thumbnails. As you have demonstrated in the video and with your thumbnail and title, it suddenly becomes clear to me. Very much appreciated, thank you.
@jmvjeroen
@jmvjeroen 3 жыл бұрын
"I don't want to make vlogs, I want to make science documentaries on KZbin that puts broadcast to shame." And for that, I love this channel
@hynjus001
@hynjus001 3 жыл бұрын
Also, mission accomplished!
@indianjitsingh8838
@indianjitsingh8838 3 жыл бұрын
That line was savage
@rafielk3606
@rafielk3606 3 жыл бұрын
I've always thought that Tom Scott has the perfect balance between clickbait ( or in this case legitbait) and interesting content that isn't misleading.
@Louis-fh4sh
@Louis-fh4sh 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely. There are a few that come to mind. "I promise this story about microwaves is interesting" is real good it was interesting, too, so legitbait
@lucbloom
@lucbloom 3 жыл бұрын
@@Louis-fh4sh Yeah that was Tom worrying too much about the same thing as this channel. Meanwhile subs know it’s legitbait 1000% and click when the bell rings. Other newbs who get lulled into viewing won’t mind either. It’s the people who *don’t* worry about sounding like clickbait that we hate :-D
@yesjo1456
@yesjo1456 3 жыл бұрын
tom scott is great
@youtoober2013
@youtoober2013 3 жыл бұрын
So true. None come to mind for me... like Mr. Beast seems obvious, but it's his content that brings in the views not his legitbait. Now that you mention it though, I can't think of anyone better than Joe Scott. It's actually the perfect, most decent, engaging and informative, consumer-friendly balance of piquing my curiosity and letting me know if it's worth my time to click at any time. I watch every video eventually because he is exactly so forthright.
@youtoober2013
@youtoober2013 3 жыл бұрын
Wait. I thought we were talking about _Joe_ Scott. Yeah, Tom's not bad either I guess, but Joe's videos are _WAY_ more digestible.
@brizzly1787
@brizzly1787 3 жыл бұрын
I think Tom Scott does a great job with the title and thumbnail. Not obnoxious, but genuinely interesting. CGP Grey is also pretty good. I like that overall style.
@GrandElemental
@GrandElemental 3 жыл бұрын
With Tom Scott's videos, the title matches exactly what he delivers: interesting topic explored well in the limits of the time frame. It never feels cheap and I never get the idea that I was tricked into clicking them.
@dputra
@dputra 3 жыл бұрын
I agree gcp titles and thumbnails are legitbait
@extagram
@extagram 3 жыл бұрын
@@GrandElemental But I don't think you can pull that off with veritasiam content though.
@parag263
@parag263 3 жыл бұрын
Tom's Red Tshirt is enough to get my click
@lak1796
@lak1796 3 жыл бұрын
I agree. But Tom's video is a whole different ball game from super educational veritasium videos, so they are unapplicable.
@hnc1500
@hnc1500 Жыл бұрын
This channel doesn’t make Clickbait, it doesn’t constantly ask to like, subscribe and leave a comment. That’s why I’ve subscribed, always like, and leave comments 😊😊😊
@Taikamuna
@Taikamuna 3 жыл бұрын
Alternative title: "I CLICKBAITED My Audience And You WON'T BELIEVE What Happened Next 😨!!!"
@coffeenator3219
@coffeenator3219 3 жыл бұрын
Oh big Finnish channel. Torilla tavataan 🥳😉
@Lunar_360
@Lunar_360 3 жыл бұрын
Fakebait
@aneeb6269
@aneeb6269 3 жыл бұрын
@@Lunar_360 also add (Mind blowing result!!!)
@dug3952
@dug3952 3 жыл бұрын
@Thishan Mallawa Arachchi LMFAOOOOO I WAS GONNA SAY THAT
@TaigiTWeseDiplomat--Formosan
@TaigiTWeseDiplomat--Formosan 3 жыл бұрын
I think the current title will only attract the people who want to know how all of this work.
@FlyntofRWBY
@FlyntofRWBY 3 жыл бұрын
It’d be cool if KZbin let us upload multiple thumbnail/title combos with each video. It would show each of the combos to different sets of people, then depending on which one has the best CTR, it would start to show that one more and more to the masses.
@JoeJoel
@JoeJoel 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting. This is kind of how Tinder shows people pictures on your dating profile.
@Maximus-rm7jn
@Maximus-rm7jn 3 жыл бұрын
funny enough, this is how google handles news articles in order to get more clicks(and thus revenue) overall.
@Girugi
@Girugi 3 жыл бұрын
I bet they could do one better... They can even segment viewers into hidden categories and test each group (ex, age groups and content habits), then assign each group the thumbnail and title that works best in that group automatically. I know KZbin already have a lot of this data for its recommendations. So just also use it to test and select thumbnails too.
@WilcoVerhoef
@WilcoVerhoef 3 жыл бұрын
A/B testing
@catdisc5304
@catdisc5304 3 жыл бұрын
I like the idea. Leave the clickbait to the machines
@waiitwhaat
@waiitwhaat 3 жыл бұрын
Veritasium is a man of his word. Veritasium: I'm bad at clickbait Also Veritasium: Doesn't say ft. Mr Beast
@psyclone1349
@psyclone1349 3 жыл бұрын
Ur right, any other youtuber would hv milked the opportunity to say they had MrBeast in their video
@RamsesTheFourth
@RamsesTheFourth 3 жыл бұрын
I have no idea who that guy was.
@Steelrat1994
@Steelrat1994 3 жыл бұрын
I would've skipped the video if it had a ft. *random guy* unless it's some other youtuber I like a lot. And I think I'm not alone in this approach to that kind of clickbait. So it's a choice between: - trying to attract everyone outside the set of people who watch veritasium with let's call it a "normal" probability of success. - trying to attract *random guy's* audience with a higher than "normal" probability of success, but everyone else with a lower than "normal" probability. Good luck estimating the probabilities to figure out a better choice)
@psyclone1349
@psyclone1349 3 жыл бұрын
@@Steelrat1994I don't get why u would skip a video if it had a "random guy" featuring, even if I don't know who the youtuber is , I would still check what the video is about without just skipping.
@dontmisunderstand6041
@dontmisunderstand6041 Жыл бұрын
When people talk about clickbait, they mean they're being lied to. That's really what it's about.
@Aphova
@Aphova 3 жыл бұрын
20 minutes of wondering "Why is he on a ladder" with no relief at the end in a video about clickbait. Meta game is strong in this one.
@christopherstark887
@christopherstark887 3 жыл бұрын
i agree
@mrshickadance6815
@mrshickadance6815 3 жыл бұрын
do you walk up to a couple in the street and question why they’re holding hands? i imagine not, so why question why he is simply holding onto his lover?
@JSBnl
@JSBnl 3 жыл бұрын
exactly what i was thinking
@wistfulgraph
@wistfulgraph 3 жыл бұрын
“The Strange Applications of the Magnus Affect” could’ve been “I threw a ball off a dam! You WONT believe what happens!!!”
@sincostanlogin
@sincostanlogin 3 жыл бұрын
(Gone sexual) *mouth agape*
@perikholt3395
@perikholt3395 3 жыл бұрын
Add a “thumbnail face” and I would never have found out what happens.
@Liwet.
@Liwet. 3 жыл бұрын
Type 2 Clickbait.
@tagnetorare5401
@tagnetorare5401 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a 3-year-old
@otofoto
@otofoto 3 жыл бұрын
@@perikholt3395 Liar
@pingo400
@pingo400 3 жыл бұрын
Ironically, the original title was more similar to "lets have a talk about clickbait" and I chose not to click it since it was to vague. I only chose to click it after seeing the name change to "clickbait is unreasonably effective"
@wargamulaya
@wargamulaya 3 жыл бұрын
It was "We need to talk about clickbait"
@JustinS06
@JustinS06 3 жыл бұрын
I had the same lol
@V0odOo
@V0odOo 3 жыл бұрын
I added it to my watch later list with the first title, because I saw the other video of his on this topic years ago and wanted to know what he has to say now. I wouldn't have watched it with the new one though, because duh, of course it is unreasonably effective. And so I would expect less new thoughts/angles/whatever on the clickbait matter from him.
@NielsChristianNielsen6720
@NielsChristianNielsen6720 3 жыл бұрын
Which it was.
@tears_of_asariel3198
@tears_of_asariel3198 3 жыл бұрын
i clicked the video on "We need to talk about clickbait" but i was pulled away from the computer to do other things, finally came back to it now though lol
@SnowBunny_Elle
@SnowBunny_Elle 2 ай бұрын
I think this is a universal truth everyone has experienced in a grocery checkout lane with all the tabloids doing exactly this. Most of us "want" to find out what the teases are on the cover but also most of us also know it's all just bs.
@lachlanswanson1582
@lachlanswanson1582 3 жыл бұрын
I love how he just narrates his videos from random places like a ladder
@Haannibal777
@Haannibal777 3 жыл бұрын
I thought the same. Initially I asked myself, “why doesn’t he do slides and then narrate them?” But that cannot show his face easily. I think his setup, although totally strange and non-conventional, is easy to do with minimal amount of work.
@babab_m
@babab_m 3 жыл бұрын
That ladder is what got me to click
@pauldacus4590
@pauldacus4590 3 жыл бұрын
Alternate Title: *KZbinr Overwhelmed by Clickbait Guilt, Nearly Dies Jumping From Ladder*
@vigilantcosmicpenguin8721
@vigilantcosmicpenguin8721 3 жыл бұрын
Let's calculate how much he risked his life.
@jvsonyt
@jvsonyt 3 жыл бұрын
Now I HAVE to watch the whole video!
@sgx9874
@sgx9874 3 жыл бұрын
i think its a bit too long...
@darklight6921
@darklight6921 3 жыл бұрын
@Bob Kay mr beast colab.
@stumbling
@stumbling 3 жыл бұрын
Will This Crazy KZbinr Fall To His Untimely Death?!?!?!
@DrBecky
@DrBecky 3 жыл бұрын
As an astronomer, I fully approve of the division of clickbait into "Type I" and "Type II"
@dehanbadenhorst1398
@dehanbadenhorst1398 3 жыл бұрын
Hey, love your videos
@boredomblasters1787
@boredomblasters1787 3 жыл бұрын
Hey!! I watch your videos
@latitzouri
@latitzouri 3 жыл бұрын
What's the link with being an astronomer 😅
@herobrain
@herobrain 3 жыл бұрын
@@latitzouri Astronomers divide supernovas into 2 types: Type I supernova, Type II supernova.
@AnindyaMahajan
@AnindyaMahajan 3 жыл бұрын
@@latitzouri Type I and Type II Supernova
@nghiado9895
@nghiado9895 Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@kentdetrick5865
@kentdetrick5865 3 жыл бұрын
I am impressed with how he stood on a ladder staring at a projector light for hours filming this. I would be blind and suffering from a recent fall if I were Derek. PS: I really like the visual learner vid.
@AlexiaHDIntuition
@AlexiaHDIntuition 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah totally me too
@raulaassisb
@raulaassisb 3 жыл бұрын
I’m still asking... “But why?” “Is it for the legitbait?”
@WoLpH
@WoLpH 3 жыл бұрын
I think Tom Scott is pretty good at this. While his titles are often clickbaity, he always delivers on the promise but not always as you would expect.
@Baulder13
@Baulder13 3 жыл бұрын
His videos always leave me with more questions which is actually a good thing. I end up on wikipedia for hours.
@LimeyLassen
@LimeyLassen 3 жыл бұрын
Tom Scott has enough clout to get away with stuff others can't. Like "I promise this video about microwaves is interesting".
@Taima
@Taima 3 жыл бұрын
Sort of a less schizophrenic vsauce
@shashwatsharma2596
@shashwatsharma2596 3 жыл бұрын
I always feel weird about falling for clickbait, but when I watch his, or Veritasium, or smarter every day, I am always pleasantly surprised
@logicbomb9026
@logicbomb9026 3 жыл бұрын
or vsauce 2
@scarletspidernz
@scarletspidernz 3 жыл бұрын
**The Clickbait Paradox** **Here's how you're getting Dupechuted** **Man stands on ladder for almost 20mins, here's why**
@KevinJohnMulligan
@KevinJohnMulligan 3 жыл бұрын
The ladder one is great 🤣🤣🤣
@Joe-nb3fs
@Joe-nb3fs 3 жыл бұрын
At no point in this video did he explain why he was on a ladder. jebaited.
@ChivalrousVeteran
@ChivalrousVeteran 3 жыл бұрын
@@Joe-nb3fs : he's on the "ladder to success" - oh why couldn't i resist; and why am i actually laughing ... ??!!
@mestiarcanus
@mestiarcanus 3 жыл бұрын
@@Joe-nb3fs I think you mean dupechuted!
@BradTheAmerican
@BradTheAmerican 3 жыл бұрын
Gonna try adding "dupechuted" to my vocab
@rmclean3
@rmclean3 Жыл бұрын
I love the humility in pointing out that titling a video "Strange Applications of the Magnus Effect" was not a great marketing strategy. That being said, you are killing it on the viewership front and this is one of my favourite channels!
@SamiKankaristo
@SamiKankaristo 3 жыл бұрын
A trend on KZbin, that I really like, are videos where the title might be clickbait-y, but the thumbnail "fixes" the curiosity gap. So, while the title alone might be clickbait, the title+thumbnail is legitbait. A lot of Veritasium videos are good examples: The Biggest Myth in Education (thumbnail answers what the myth is: "You are not a visual learner") Backspin Basketball Flies Off Dam (the thumbnail answers why: "Magnus effect") Without the "answers" in the thumbnail, I would probably call the above titles clickbait, but with them, I don't think they're clickbait.
@mrbigsmile3902
@mrbigsmile3902 3 жыл бұрын
Or "The simplest math problem no one can solve" with thumbnail "3x + 1" which would have been way too clickbaity otherwise. I agree, it's a great approach.
@Ax00xL
@Ax00xL 3 жыл бұрын
Or i think the best so far: Do salt lamps work? no.
@riverw4721
@riverw4721 3 жыл бұрын
Adam Neely does this a lot. Title asks question, thumbnail answers question.
@sashakindel3600
@sashakindel3600 3 жыл бұрын
It doesn't feel exploitative to me, which I appreciate a lot.
@pramilashaktawat4429
@pramilashaktawat4429 3 жыл бұрын
❗SERCH ADITYA RATHORE-HE ALSO MAKES INFORMATIVE CONTENT LIKE VERTASIUM
@egodeath2007
@egodeath2007 3 жыл бұрын
Veritasium basically exposing himself is the most truthful thing I've seen on KZbin.
@HideFromIt
@HideFromIt 3 жыл бұрын
No one could expose me so I did it myself
@WraithlingRavenchild
@WraithlingRavenchild 3 жыл бұрын
And showing his respect for us, proves he deserves our respect.
@michaelwallace9291
@michaelwallace9291 3 жыл бұрын
Personally. If a thumbnail has a person doing that fake surprise beta open mouth face. Out of spite I mark it uninterested.
@RatusMax
@RatusMax 3 жыл бұрын
I am still watching the video, does he speak about how YT is segregating the people and putting them in echo chambers? How it is making people impulsive quick to reject information from other points of views? How when they are given opposite information, they reinforce their thoughts with the information from their feeds? We're all screwed and we don't know it yet...
@bixmcgoo5355
@bixmcgoo5355 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah until he says he doesn't do it for money
@channingmcgregorsmith
@channingmcgregorsmith 3 жыл бұрын
Best legitbait title ever: "The ingenious design of the aluminum beverage can"
@kashu7691
@kashu7691 3 жыл бұрын
best video on this site
@walidfakhfakh3660
@walidfakhfakh3660 3 жыл бұрын
@@kashu7691 Anna Capone bodyguard
@ick-625
@ick-625 3 жыл бұрын
Engineering guy's?
@walidfakhfakh3660
@walidfakhfakh3660 3 жыл бұрын
@@ick-625 yes you come in this is marvelous Anna in the bathroom of the hotel room you have to jump into the Russian about changing Smith Sam Smith's about this peanuts nuages about the tombstone that I could find intuited highlighted peanuts
@NickiRusin
@NickiRusin 3 жыл бұрын
@@walidfakhfakh3660 are you ok
@ericfitzgerald2084
@ericfitzgerald2084 8 ай бұрын
I like that the titles of your best videos sound a lot like good titles for newspaper articles... you're just using good journalism rules. Thank you for sharing this.
@Jack42_
@Jack42_ 3 жыл бұрын
The Og title was “We Need To Talk About Clickbait” it’s now “Clickbait is Unreasonably Effective”
@zthehuman7051
@zthehuman7051 3 жыл бұрын
Yep
@mthlay15
@mthlay15 3 жыл бұрын
....funny thing is I've seen the thumbnail for a few days. Tonight I clicked it. Why? I don't know 😭😆
@callmeterry5371
@callmeterry5371 3 жыл бұрын
@@mthlay15 same bro haha
@djjimmaster8261
@djjimmaster8261 3 жыл бұрын
@@mthlay15 omg same
@silverish9081
@silverish9081 3 жыл бұрын
And the new one is more descriptive and probably performs better
@jehanr
@jehanr 3 жыл бұрын
How is this not called "Mr Beast teaches me about clickbait" and include Mr Beast in the thumbnail? (Or maybe it will soon! Or maybe it did!)
@Rekisen1
@Rekisen1 3 жыл бұрын
the thumbnail did when it was uploaded but he changed it after a couple of hours
@Althar93
@Althar93 3 жыл бұрын
I think it did and he is specifically testing the effects of the thumbnail on the click-through-rate by swapping between different ones.
@Shmidershmax
@Shmidershmax 3 жыл бұрын
@@Rekisen1 Was there a red circle around him?
@davibergamin5943
@davibergamin5943 3 жыл бұрын
@@Shmidershmax there was a red arrow
@kevinross6235
@kevinross6235 3 жыл бұрын
@@Rekisen1 My memory is bad cause I don't remember that lol
@howridiculous
@howridiculous 3 жыл бұрын
Glad to see the Magnus Effect is still helping generate some content for you Derek haha
@amismarterthanmy6thgrader
@amismarterthanmy6thgrader 3 жыл бұрын
#44 love your stuff guys
@intruder9127
@intruder9127 3 жыл бұрын
Epic
@x0cx102
@x0cx102 3 жыл бұрын
Oh you’re the guy who also uploaded that clip iirc
@madhusai220
@madhusai220 3 жыл бұрын
What happens when a spinning basketball is thrown off the dam!
@hangry3102
@hangry3102 3 жыл бұрын
I never knew Veritasium's name until now, learn something new every day
@Bobbbybags
@Bobbbybags 2 жыл бұрын
I was just surfing through your videos for something to watch and thinking to my self “I really appreciate how he doesn’t use clickbait” then I landed on this video.
@conall9415
@conall9415 3 жыл бұрын
"I'm terrible at making clickbait." Really? "Risking My Life To Settle A Physics Debate" was an immediately clickable title. Edit: This is a compliment, not an accusation.
@veritasium
@veritasium 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I didn't come up with that - that was the team.
@bhavyasingh5410
@bhavyasingh5410 3 жыл бұрын
@@veritasium Hi Man...
@bhavyasingh5410
@bhavyasingh5410 3 жыл бұрын
@@veritasium Love your Videos.... From past 6 years
@MrTorygg
@MrTorygg 3 жыл бұрын
@@veritasium bruh
@TheSwarm666
@TheSwarm666 3 жыл бұрын
@@veritasium what was the original title going to be?
@polcyon
@polcyon 3 жыл бұрын
This guy stared into a projector for 20 minutes for our education Respect.
@MarioX1818
@MarioX1818 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah about that....
@tonyfalapatt1308
@tonyfalapatt1308 3 жыл бұрын
i hope its a joke...but we have 2 hrs class using projectors.....
@mal2ksc
@mal2ksc 3 жыл бұрын
@@tonyfalapatt1308 Are you in the beam of the projector? Because it's like trying to ignore someone shining a flashlight at you. Otherwise... that's a nice projector. I just don't understand why he couldn't put everything two feet lower and stand on the ground, rather than using a ladder.
@jacobshirley3457
@jacobshirley3457 3 жыл бұрын
@@mal2ksc Novelty, especially for long-term subscribers.
@gklnth187
@gklnth187 3 жыл бұрын
"I'm terrible at click bait" Yet I'm here
@BobAndrews69
@BobAndrews69 3 жыл бұрын
He makes good content
@HmHm-xz9nv
@HmHm-xz9nv 3 жыл бұрын
Well we clicked on the notification, not the thumbnail.
@PinkeySuavo
@PinkeySuavo 3 жыл бұрын
@@HmHm-xz9nv True, I watch Veritasium no matter what he posts. Thats the power of getting true subscribers. You get some constant views, and then u can aim for more random people
@teemuleppa3347
@teemuleppa3347 3 жыл бұрын
and yet millions of others are not
@WanderTheNomad
@WanderTheNomad 3 жыл бұрын
You are but a single data point. Amongst possibly millions of people who may or may not have clicked on the video.
@BryceLynch-v3p
@BryceLynch-v3p 11 ай бұрын
Honestly, most of your video titles don't sound that interesting to me, but then I watch them and I'm fascinated Great channel. Love it
@Project-Air
@Project-Air 3 жыл бұрын
I was just thinking I hope you do more meta videos about the platform! You have such a helpful perspective using all the science!
@matthewwatson9502
@matthewwatson9502 3 жыл бұрын
Yo James!
@pramilashaktawat4429
@pramilashaktawat4429 3 жыл бұрын
🟢SERCH ADITYA RATHORE-HE ALSO MAKES INFORMATIVE CONTENT LIKE VERTASIUM
@brayden2983
@brayden2983 3 жыл бұрын
although when Mr. Beast's Video titled something like "If You click on this video, You get a chance to win 1M dollars" I never ended up watching the video. The Click bait made me not want to watch the video.
@dudefromsa
@dudefromsa 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed!
@nathanvarghese.
@nathanvarghese. 3 жыл бұрын
Funny how he interviewed Mrbeast - He's the one who does most clickbait on youtube!!!!!!!!
@NickNimmin
@NickNimmin 3 жыл бұрын
This was fantastic! I also want to acknowledge how much time you probably spent on that ladder.
@Considerers
@Considerers 3 жыл бұрын
Right, i was thinking "I hope he wore shoes with thick soles for this"
@Considerers
@Considerers 3 жыл бұрын
Nevermind, just noticed he was not wearing shoes at all
@000Gua000
@000Gua000 3 жыл бұрын
He was risking his life and health to make this video.
@jairm.jr.9991
@jairm.jr.9991 3 жыл бұрын
He also might have a burnt spot in his eyes from the projector
@AstronomyGarage
@AstronomyGarage 3 жыл бұрын
@@000Gua000 Only 9% life risking, so it might not meet his metric, lol. :)
@space1607
@space1607 3 жыл бұрын
The fact that I avoided this video for three days just to finally click it proves that clickbait always wins.
@ChrisGoblinHD
@ChrisGoblinHD 3 жыл бұрын
Right with you
@tamadz1009
@tamadz1009 3 жыл бұрын
Same
@harleyspeedthrust4013
@harleyspeedthrust4013 3 жыл бұрын
the thumbnail changed at some point in the past few days. I don't remember exactly what it said before but it wasn't "Here's the proof" like it is now
@aleshatim
@aleshatim 3 жыл бұрын
@@harleyspeedthrust4013 for me it's "Clickbait is unreasonably effective" right now o_O
@yanboa
@yanboa 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly! “Here’s the proof” is exactly the point where I, and I assume, most of us, will have finally clicked... ;)
@SAKURA8023o
@SAKURA8023o 2 жыл бұрын
Unsub or block is a nice way to fight against low quality clickbaits.
@LeventK
@LeventK 3 жыл бұрын
"Why is clickbait everywhere? Well... because it works." *Reality is often disappointing.*
@veritasium
@veritasium 3 жыл бұрын
I feel you
@chromiyum6849
@chromiyum6849 3 жыл бұрын
@@veritasium to be really honest, i love your videos so much that even if you upload a 30 min video with the title "i cant think of a title" i'd still happily jump to click it! ;D
@shelekhov
@shelekhov 3 жыл бұрын
Banner advertisement worked very well once. Few don't know how ugly it ended. Recent youtube's policies make me open platform less and less. 2 unskippable adds for a freaking minute...
@maluraq
@maluraq 3 жыл бұрын
See also spam and scams in general. They work.
@deputydog1995
@deputydog1995 3 жыл бұрын
Yes. That's why many people prefer to spend their time elsewhere than in reality.
@BoomBrush
@BoomBrush 3 жыл бұрын
"We need to talk about clickbait" > No red circles or arrows in clickbait thumbnail Yes.
@nabhchandra_
@nabhchandra_ 3 жыл бұрын
there is a red arrow tho
@ThreeMountainsStudio
@ThreeMountainsStudio 3 жыл бұрын
Don't you see the red arrow?
@tpgmflint
@tpgmflint 3 жыл бұрын
@@ThreeMountainsStudio he probably just changed the thumbnail lol
@IteKLF
@IteKLF 3 жыл бұрын
"Clickbaits: How to get good at KZbin" could also work..
@YuvanSeth27
@YuvanSeth27 3 жыл бұрын
> No Mr. Beast in the thumbnail
@zoks
@zoks 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly this should just be an AB testing feature that KZbin offers to their creators. You submit multiple pairs of thumbnails and for limited time KZbin will show all of those to same number of people. Then after the initial experiment only the pair with most impressions is shown to any new people.
@tobiastzfanya3949
@tobiastzfanya3949 3 жыл бұрын
That's a great idea - it would help level the playing field for smaller and less experienced creators.
@brilliancesigma9063
@brilliancesigma9063 3 жыл бұрын
Facebook ads have A/B testing. I wonder why KZbin doesn’t
@felsiq
@felsiq 3 жыл бұрын
That's a great idea
@Mike_Dubayou
@Mike_Dubayou 3 жыл бұрын
I’m pretty sure that is a thing, unless I’ve just seen creators manually change their thumbnails. I have absolutely seen different thumbnails for the same recently uploaded videos.
@Ojja78
@Ojja78 3 жыл бұрын
Looks like Mike doesn't watch the videos that he's commenting on.
@shadowfpv4701
@shadowfpv4701 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this channel and all the work you guys have put into these videos. Never stop learning and exploring!
@CuriosityShow
@CuriosityShow 3 жыл бұрын
All true, and it is why newspapers used to hire good sub editors to think up catchy headlines for articles. Journalists often protested that the headlines didn't reflect the content of what they wrote, but the catchy headlines got the readers for their copy - Rob
@csn583
@csn583 3 жыл бұрын
And then we stopped reading past the end of the headline...
@davidwuhrer6704
@davidwuhrer6704 3 жыл бұрын
If the headline doesn't say what the article is about, I simply won't read it. There are too many headlines like that, ain't nobody got time for that. But what I noticed is that if there are numbers in the headline, those numbers will be different in the lede, and different again in the article. For example: Thousands dead! In a catastrophy last week, hundreds have died… … The two people who have died… I also noticed that in newspaper forums, the commenters are usually refering to the headline, not the article. Sometimes I wonder why journalists even bother.
@Legion849
@Legion849 3 жыл бұрын
@@csn583 I will not read the whole article just to know what's it about. The headline should make it clear what happened I don't have the time to read the whole thing
@To-mos
@To-mos 3 жыл бұрын
Truly a travesty.
@Classified141
@Classified141 3 жыл бұрын
Ok rob
@IshaanOP07
@IshaanOP07 3 жыл бұрын
First title: We need to talk about clickbait second title: Clickbait is Unreasonably Effective
@simonlomet
@simonlomet 3 жыл бұрын
I only saw the second one, and I don't think I would necessarily have clicked on the first one. First one has an ambiguous and almost negative tone, which, I think, would have made me think that the video would be about 'what is wrong with clickbait' (something I already saw a lot) in contrast to the second one which have a more neutral and pragmatic tone and made me think the video will be about the phenomenon as a whole with an interesting way of seeing it (including data with the thumbnail).
@joecerone
@joecerone 3 жыл бұрын
I only ended up clicking after the title change 😂🤣
@bradbobov4815
@bradbobov4815 3 жыл бұрын
🌚
@MysticKenji2
@MysticKenji2 3 жыл бұрын
i clicked on the first one (it was in my subs) but didn't get around to watching it until after the title changed. wonder how many other people this happened to
@johncao6516
@johncao6516 3 жыл бұрын
Saw the first title, didn't have time to watch it at the time. When I returned it has changed.
@IncroyablesExperiences
@IncroyablesExperiences 3 жыл бұрын
10M well deserved, my favorite channel for years!
@EzT32
@EzT32 3 жыл бұрын
What are you talking about? He doesn’t have 10M already.
@noone-hd1ck
@noone-hd1ck 3 жыл бұрын
170 k still left bro
@EzT32
@EzT32 3 жыл бұрын
@@noone-hd1ck Think he is one of those who spams comment in order to scrape just a few more subs off of his checkmark.
@EzT32
@EzT32 3 жыл бұрын
@Yousef Alwitry 2 on this channel. And they often have than amount cause they comment everywhere. Not saying that he is one for sure.
@Amezith
@Amezith 3 жыл бұрын
from future?
@AndyGoesOutside
@AndyGoesOutside Жыл бұрын
love this projector and ladder stype of presenting
@uncreative369
@uncreative369 3 жыл бұрын
"I don't want to make Vlogs I want to make science documentaries on KZbin that put broadcast to shame" -Veritasium (Best description of his channel)
@damien4197
@damien4197 3 жыл бұрын
"We need to talk about clickbait" "Clickbait is unreasonably effective" Trying to get me to watch the same video twice, huh, I see how it is.
@jajefan123456789
@jajefan123456789 3 жыл бұрын
lol he practices what he preaches :D
@themrpancake
@themrpancake 3 жыл бұрын
^ Almost a wooosh
@thomasmaier7053
@thomasmaier7053 3 жыл бұрын
Am I part of an experiment?
@BrownMInc
@BrownMInc 3 жыл бұрын
Hehe
@giambo7547
@giambo7547 3 жыл бұрын
The first title was better imo
@razorstone3088
@razorstone3088 3 жыл бұрын
"KZbinrs hate him !" watch this physicist reveal their secrets
@rags707
@rags707 3 жыл бұрын
Win at KZbin with this one weird trick
@ED-yy4te
@ED-yy4te 3 жыл бұрын
In the hood, gone sexual. POLICE CALLED
@Yamato_GD
@Yamato_GD 3 жыл бұрын
@Rita 25 y.o - check my vidéó "Woman is snoring loudly and president hears it, instantly regret it."
@MaX271
@MaX271 Жыл бұрын
This video mad me realize why I click on less and less videos from Veritasium and its increasing clickbait title and thumbnails. Building the curiosity gap takes time, so overall there is less and less to learn and the video length rises.
@prateekgautam5514
@prateekgautam5514 3 жыл бұрын
"I wanna make science documentaries on youtube that put broadcast to shame", this is the reason why I watch Veritasium, love the confidence and motivation. It's also inspiring me to start my own channel
@-8_8-
@-8_8- 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, This and not amazing clickbait guy.
@DecoratingBeautifully
@DecoratingBeautifully 3 жыл бұрын
He's in a class of his own. love the channel
@AGlimpseInside
@AGlimpseInside 3 жыл бұрын
I like “Trickbait” for the misleading Legitbait…. That’s a good one!
@billcipher2144
@billcipher2144 3 жыл бұрын
Didn't expect you here
@AGlimpseInside
@AGlimpseInside 3 жыл бұрын
@@billcipher2144 I always watch Ve!
@veritasium
@veritasium 3 жыл бұрын
This is not bad! I like it, will forward to Brady for approval.
@AGlimpseInside
@AGlimpseInside 3 жыл бұрын
@@veritasium Thank you Derek! I appreciate it
@SNL5907
@SNL5907 3 жыл бұрын
Also thought trickbait would sound great for misleading
@windubitably
@windubitably 3 жыл бұрын
“I want to make science documentaries on KZbin that put broadcast to shame.” Depending on the network, you’re already there. Keep it up!
@willisbest4593
@willisbest4593 3 жыл бұрын
amen, i cant watch most documentarys anymore as they just convey a 15 min vertassium video within 45 min of voicover boringness
@stephaniegarfield29142
@stephaniegarfield29142 9 ай бұрын
17:10 I was feeling cynical and know-it-all-ish about the concepts you had brought up until this crucial little caveat at the end. Bravo, I really enjoyed this video. It feels easy to write off the value of marketing & social media, to view them as antagonistic towards the actual work - your reflection here helped remind me that all of these factors are somewhat important, especially in creative pursuits.
@JeffGeerling
@JeffGeerling 3 жыл бұрын
I just wish KZbin would add an A/B feature so creators didn't have to spend the first few hours/days babysitting their videos to try to achieve a good CTR.
@foobars3816
@foobars3816 3 жыл бұрын
is there an api for this?
@gonzalomorislara8858
@gonzalomorislara8858 3 жыл бұрын
I mean there is always the youtube api so an A/B feature can already easily be implemented using it. A couple python lines in AWS Lambda do the job fine.
@clickbaitpolice1750
@clickbaitpolice1750 3 жыл бұрын
It’s not the fact that these clickbait KZbinrs make a lot of money or fame, it’s that they steal a lot of their viewers’ time with irrelevant material, then the actual content you clicked for is at the end of the video. My main focus is the viewers’ time, that’s why I want to stop this clickbait epidemic.
@anesthetized7053
@anesthetized7053 3 жыл бұрын
sorry for my ignorance but what is an a/b feature? i used to upload videos in the early 2000's and have no idea what that means.
@jonathanclemens3755
@jonathanclemens3755 3 жыл бұрын
@@clickbaitpolice1750 Do you have a proposed alternative that is likely to engage viewers and promote time spent on the site?
@Pindexsf
@Pindexsf 3 жыл бұрын
'How kindness can kill.' is the title of our video about effective altruism. It's fairly clickbaity, but people are watching and donating to the most effective charities. I often struggle to know where the line is. If people are happy after watching the video, does that mean it's ok? I don't know. Brilliant video as always Derek.
@giannipiccioni8411
@giannipiccioni8411 3 жыл бұрын
I feel that as long as you are not lying, you can be as clickbaity as you want. Your title clearly is interesting, showing a contrast between the words you are using, a paradox that interests people. If in your video you effectively explain why altruism can be dangerous, the title effectively communicates part of the content of the video, in an interesting way. If you phrased it differently, like "Kindness kills", which is almost the same but very different in the meaning, you would have made a false title (because kindness does not kill usually), That is a lie, so a bad kind of clickbait.
@kellymoses8566
@kellymoses8566 3 жыл бұрын
Main thing is never leave people feeling like the title lied to them.
@Pindexsf
@Pindexsf 3 жыл бұрын
​@@giannipiccioni8411 Thanks. It might be that we worry more about this than most viewers, who just want to see good videos, though it's easy to be blinded by incentives. It's not the money (effective altruism groups asked to sponsor videos, and I asked them to keep the money and made a video anyway) - it's the impact. Arguing against political correctness, Stephen Fry said "It's more important to be effective than to be right - in the sense of self-righteous etc." I think there's also a risk of limiting positive impact to save our own embarrassment. And I've just realised that yes, we worry too much about this - I'm rambling - Mr Beast is right : )
@dewgongdakota
@dewgongdakota 3 жыл бұрын
Best unintentional self-promotion comment ever, well played.
@Pindexsf
@Pindexsf 3 жыл бұрын
@@philippschreier398 Yes I think that's good, but what if it delivers something slightly different, which they are equally happy with? Can a nice surprise be a good thing?
@marslogos
@marslogos 2 жыл бұрын
“Surprising” is an overused clickbait that people are desensitised to; this means that people have developed an immune response to unconsciously ignore such bait.
@had0j
@had0j 2 жыл бұрын
especially ''surprisingly isnt''
@ihavepissinmybrain
@ihavepissinmybrain 2 жыл бұрын
6:57 This point still stands true though. The people that ignore clickbait don’t matter. It’s the people that fall for it that do, and more of them come over time.
@marslogos
@marslogos 2 жыл бұрын
@@ihavepissinmybrain 15:36
@walidfakhfakh3660
@walidfakhfakh3660 2 жыл бұрын
@@had0j La bumba sticker Funeral Home in New Castle
@Lavonne9870
@Lavonne9870 2 жыл бұрын
I think you mean DEsensitized
@魚魚-v9d
@魚魚-v9d 2 жыл бұрын
Just found myself in love with this dude's presentation
@businessproyects2615
@businessproyects2615 3 жыл бұрын
I like how he has the high ground.
@AdamBechtol
@AdamBechtol 3 жыл бұрын
Well, he thinks he does... :( Pays 'his' bills. lol
@jebediahkerman5770
@jebediahkerman5770 3 жыл бұрын
Class G2V Stellar Classification (Sun)
@rafamadeit
@rafamadeit 2 жыл бұрын
Lisa Simpson on a stage energy for sure
@roamintheslums4851
@roamintheslums4851 2 жыл бұрын
just a sign of dominance
@tejvishwajeet
@tejvishwajeet 2 жыл бұрын
*vietnam flashbacks*
@DaveChurchill
@DaveChurchill 3 жыл бұрын
"I'm just gonna make this video on a ladder"
@PhillipAmthor
@PhillipAmthor 3 жыл бұрын
Well it would be weird if he would have made this video on a bladder, right?
@khil1
@khil1 3 жыл бұрын
How else do you make elevated content?!
@samhiatt
@samhiatt 3 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate people who are willing and so able to share the secrets of their creative processes like this.
@Okatogurui
@Okatogurui 3 жыл бұрын
It's been pretty much open knowledge for years now, but this is the best and most detailed I've seen it explained.
@joshsa4935
@joshsa4935 Жыл бұрын
KZbin never suggested the "Salt lamps" video to me until you changed the title to what it is now. Something of a confirmation to what you're saying.
@TravelersParadise
@TravelersParadise 3 жыл бұрын
I played with thumbnails and titles over the past few months and I can tell you it makes a huge difference, as explained in this video!
@nihilozero
@nihilozero 3 жыл бұрын
But are the results coming from "better" titles, or simply the act of changing the titles. This seemed unclear to me in Veritasium's video because the chart suddenly showed an influx of new views when the title changed, but how can we know whether it's because the new title was better or simply because it was new?
@HelloKittyFanMan.
@HelloKittyFanMan. 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that's a good question, @@nihilozero, if by it you mean the thumbnail too. Because that might produce the "Oh, here's one from this guy that I haven't seen yet!" effect, even for people who'd still find the new name and pic boring, simply because they like just about everything that guy posts. I wonder how a study specifically about that might be conducted.
@lightdud552
@lightdud552 3 жыл бұрын
@@nihilozero personally I saved it to my watch later as soon as I got the notification so I could watch it later. Probably after he's already done all the changing and stuff.
@nonelost1
@nonelost1 3 жыл бұрын
@@HelloKittyFanMan. "Oh, here's one from this guy that I haven't seen yet!" CLICK "WHAT?!...I've seen this one already!" UNSUB
@MiniCajti
@MiniCajti 3 жыл бұрын
So you know how bad is to name video I DIED IN MINECRAFT and thumbnail minecraft bedrock logo?
@edc1569
@edc1569 3 жыл бұрын
I feel this is something AI will be terrifyingly good at.
@quarkonium3795
@quarkonium3795 3 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah, black box problems are the bread an butter of AI software
@edwardmitchell6581
@edwardmitchell6581 3 жыл бұрын
Especially if KZbin allowed for A/B testing.
@jacobb5625
@jacobb5625 3 жыл бұрын
Type II clickbait, yes I agree. but not Type I clickbait
@anthonyconte9543
@anthonyconte9543 3 жыл бұрын
Or it'll get a little bad data and we get an amazing shitpost algaritham
@Founderschannel123
@Founderschannel123 3 жыл бұрын
I guess so probably if they send the AI to mars they would just make their own colony and just become independent on themselves
@rursus8354
@rursus8354 3 жыл бұрын
The most memorable clickbait I remember was: _"this young genius proved 20 nobel prize winners wrong!"_ I have no idea of where the stupid link led, because I didn't click.
@TheGoukaruma
@TheGoukaruma 3 жыл бұрын
So it didn't work for you.
@dianeridley9804
@dianeridley9804 3 жыл бұрын
Then it was not bait
@damionlee7658
@damionlee7658 3 жыл бұрын
@@dianeridley9804 wrong type of bait for that person, but no doubt very effective bait for a lot of people.
@afriedrich1452
@afriedrich1452 3 жыл бұрын
The problem with that title is that they forgot to add, "And then the murders began."
@uranium54321
@uranium54321 3 жыл бұрын
The most memorable clickbait I remember was the KZbin video called "the greatest paralympic scandal" or something like that and the thumbnail was literally just the words "They weren't disabled." I clicked on it.
@streetwalkingworld
@streetwalkingworld 9 ай бұрын
this is really great content, basically a free class on how to get more views on your youtube video without the 'clickbait' of all the other videos by youtubers that try to market the same idea of 'how to get more views'
@doryiii
@doryiii 3 жыл бұрын
Tom Scott: "Here's 2 hours of a piece of garlic bread flying to the edge of space."
@SALEENS7GTR5
@SALEENS7GTR5 3 жыл бұрын
I thought he was going to ask Tom Scott when he mentioned "the king of clickbait" but yeah, Mr. Beast exists lol
@GeneralZimmer
@GeneralZimmer 3 жыл бұрын
I watched that video xd
@Hugh.Manatee
@Hugh.Manatee 3 жыл бұрын
@@GeneralZimmer Me too, but I skipped most of the middle bit (except for the balloon popping)
@andersbuchjeppesen5493
@andersbuchjeppesen5493 3 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure the title is “2 hours of unedited garlic bread flight footage” unless he changed it
@sgnosymfoemos
@sgnosymfoemos 3 жыл бұрын
AND WE ALL WATCHED IT ANYWAY
@FJBauser
@FJBauser 3 жыл бұрын
I have the perfect clickbait for this video: “A SCIENTIST discovers MARKETING. This is what happened!”
@theflyingnegro5063
@theflyingnegro5063 3 жыл бұрын
LMAOOOO this is it
@jezonesjezz7179
@jezonesjezz7179 3 жыл бұрын
Or SCIENTIST spent 19 minutes on a ladder here's what happened
@Ilander86
@Ilander86 3 жыл бұрын
To be honest, it would have been nice if scientists had brought in the marketing/PR team on a whole bunch of things before now. Maybe we'd have started the game with "Climate Crisis" and "Global Heating" and have moved the ball further by now.
@zwenkwiel816
@zwenkwiel816 3 жыл бұрын
A scientist discovers marketing, GONE SEXUAL!
@terenceaaron1999
@terenceaaron1999 3 жыл бұрын
@@Ilander86 Problem is that so many in the marketing world aren't on the same side as these scientists.
@Unclevertitle
@Unclevertitle 3 жыл бұрын
"Dupechute" is the funniest word I've heard so far today and while it's still early it has a strong chance of remaining the champion.
@Maelthorn1337
@Maelthorn1337 3 жыл бұрын
It sounds like a really mean insult. I like it.
@jbrownjetmech-4783
@jbrownjetmech-4783 3 жыл бұрын
I think it will have multiple applications, the kids are gonna love it.
@yogi30303
@yogi30303 3 жыл бұрын
Clicktrap is the simplest one. I think it has the most possibility to rise up. But I don't think clickebait is going anywhere sooner.
@nessbrawlaaja
@nessbrawlaaja 3 жыл бұрын
Click bait / click trap are much easier to understand for non-native english speaker and thus have more potential to spread
@maxonmendel5757
@maxonmendel5757 3 жыл бұрын
good morning in America
@eatyourvegetables1449
@eatyourvegetables1449 Жыл бұрын
I love how at 5:40 Derek had to take a second to calm his laughter, you could see him smiling almost laughing when he started talking after he said “dupechute”.
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