Legitbait is a really cool term. Super interesting video! The reality is that you have to be interesting with your thumbnails and titles or people will not watch them so we always have used clickbait (hopefully closer to legitbait) in the hope that our videos then are actually filled with enough substance that people will leave satisfied. We never tried switching out thumbnails though, might experiment with that!
@amiraslanbakhshili54203 жыл бұрын
I read the comment in an English accent
@destra45313 жыл бұрын
Nah, your videos are super interesting and cool. I dont think you need it :p
@adamadams71073 жыл бұрын
100% your videos are legitbait, I’m never disappointed with a Kurzgesagt video
@subodhthallada32703 жыл бұрын
Can't believe I am one of the first commenters for your comment
@molrk3 жыл бұрын
No matter what the title or thumbnail, I’ll always watch a video of yours!
@jonathangrant42473 жыл бұрын
This guy really just stood on a ladder and gave a power point presentation
@Baalaaxa3 жыл бұрын
That's Derek for you. Gotta love his commitment and quality content.
@Daye043 жыл бұрын
And I absolutely loved it
@TheChangeYT3 жыл бұрын
Cool idea 👍
@niqaily44153 жыл бұрын
It was unreasonably effective
@gubx423 жыл бұрын
That's a stepladder
@ChineseCookingDemystified3 жыл бұрын
"I'm terrible at making clickbait" says one of the people with the strongest title/thumbnail games on the platform. Seriously, the past two years of Veritasium has been a case study in how to make clickable videos while still respecting the intelligence of the audience.
@WanderTheNomad3 жыл бұрын
I can't believe I only just now noticed that you guys don't have a verified checkmark. ..Why is that? 🤔
@AkariInsko3 жыл бұрын
okay fine
@vijayabhaskar-j3 жыл бұрын
Yes, I have discussions on reddit that Mark Rober and Veritasium have cracked the code to KZbin algorithm.
@Eridu3 жыл бұрын
wow i could never have said it better, that's exactly it
@tennoki3 жыл бұрын
He's reflecting on his entire time in KZbin. For the longest time, he never bothered with his title/thumbnail game.
@thatbaccus Жыл бұрын
When I first came across Veritasium I looked at the titles and thought "That's garbage, can't be true, clearly clickbait" and moved on. Then some of the researchers I worked with were talking (actually arguing) about a particularly interesting idea on a Veritasium vid, which got me to watch it - and I realised while the titles were absolutely crazy and hard to believe, they were also true. The great thing about this channel is that the team finds interesting and wild ideas that sound like they can't be true, and yet are - they use clickbait language that still manages to not be true (unlike so many that misinform willingly/intentionally). Bring on the legitbait!
@MonkeyJedi99 Жыл бұрын
I passed over the first Veritasium video I was recommended because my brain connected the channel name with some channels I had recently been duped by that also had "latin-esque" names. But the second time one was recommended, I watched, and watched some more, and through this channel got into Steve Mould, and through Steve got into Matt Parker. Another channel that got recommended to me from watching Veritasium was Xyla Foxlin, from which I started watching Allen Pan, who may also have been recommended because I watched Kyle Hill (the Mythbusters 2 competition link). - The recommendation engine is sometimes good, but more than half the time recommends things I don't care about, or channels I actively hate. If KZbin never recommends a Joe Rogan video to me again, I might die happy.
@DavidMuri-lm5vy Жыл бұрын
IT'S MISTER. BEAST!!!!!!!!!!!!! Everyone please sing the mister beast outro song!!!!!!!!!!! ❤❤❤❤❤❤
@ryans5073 Жыл бұрын
His whole point is that the vids are for educating most people not people who are actively working in or around research like yourself
@HateMerchant9 ай бұрын
@@DavidMuri-lm5vywierdo
@knihovnik29 ай бұрын
Similar here. I got recommended the asteroid video (with the new title) and went like: "Ok, I know Veritasium is a great channel but this doesn't sound very interesting", and yet when in this video he started talking about "Asteroids: Earth's biggest threat" I was like: "Oh, this video sounds very interesting", only to be surprised that they're the same video.
@Afrotechmods3 жыл бұрын
I remember back in 2009 KZbin had an option to report videos that had misleading titles or thumbnails. Nowadays if you do it they invite you to KZbin HQ and put you in a Rewind video.
@misaaFPS3 жыл бұрын
mate your comment got botted
@RyanUnbarringSlinkyOrgan3 жыл бұрын
Sheesh 🍩🍩🍩
@straddlescout12203 жыл бұрын
someone give this person a cookie
@nathanvarghese.3 жыл бұрын
Funny how he interviewed Mrbeast - He's the one who does most clickbait on youtube!!!!!!!!
@dhc23 жыл бұрын
@@nathanvarghese. how? anything he puts in the title is in the vid
@EazySpeezy3 жыл бұрын
This is such an interesting topic for youtubers. How a super small change in the title/thumbnail could provide a drastic change in the results of the video, while still trying to stay true to the actual content
@crimsondragon26773 жыл бұрын
You watch Veritasium?
@JM-us3fr3 жыл бұрын
Having a second channel with other speed runners tends to help too
@pvic69593 жыл бұрын
dang, I see you be doin some research! Next video: "I speedrun making a clickbait thumbnail"? LOL.. wait I kinda like that idea. it would be fun/interesting to see how fast you can edit a thumbnail and we'd get a "behind the scenes" sorta thing too!
@SpiritSlayer13 жыл бұрын
Hi
@sameetpatil_53 жыл бұрын
Look now he is even speed running KZbin
@ironnick63992 жыл бұрын
You're genuine. I hate that anyone making click bait could hide behind this spectacular video, but you've exonerated yourself. Recently found and now love your videos.
@lukas18913 жыл бұрын
Props to Derek for permanently letting a projector shine into his eyes for the whole record.
@Indrakusuma_a3 жыл бұрын
And standing awkwardly on top of a ladder
@nasreddinegalfout88933 жыл бұрын
Look at the shadow. It is not
@crisp.63413 жыл бұрын
lmao
@sid66453 жыл бұрын
Props*?
@richardmillhousenixon3 жыл бұрын
@@nasreddinegalfout8893 Yes it is. Otherwise his face would not be lit at all
@veritasium3 жыл бұрын
In case you're wondering, the recent title/thumb change seems to be effective - from "We Need to Talk About Clickbait [It's Important. I'll Explain With Data]" to "Clickbait is Unreasonably Effective [Here's The Proof]"... The problem is I know a bunch of you are clicking on this video to comment on the title and thumbnail change so that looks like a spike in engagement but then you comment and leave, which may make YT think the new title no longer appropriately represents the video. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@arceusfromyt90843 жыл бұрын
That makes sense
@whooozitz3 жыл бұрын
So if the universe begins to unravel in the next few hours we know who to blame?
@ryanisdoneby3 жыл бұрын
The algorithm only fed me this video after you’d updated your title. I’m a sub, so, make of that what you will 😅
@erpasptstark24873 жыл бұрын
Hopefully it actually is a better combo
@ToX1CxHaZe3 жыл бұрын
i have always wondered why when i first see you upload a new video, the video title suddenly changes after 24 - 72 hours and i was curious as to why.. well now i know why and i completely understand where you're coming from. props to you for being so honest and engaging with your audience. well done my friend.
@HauntingTube3 жыл бұрын
Would have never clicked for strange applications of Magnus Effect!! But I click on every video of yours now, irrespective of thumbnail or title :)
@hatethisfamehatethisgame3 жыл бұрын
Bruh
@mathlegendno123 жыл бұрын
Verified with no comments?
@mathlegendno123 жыл бұрын
Not nymore
@anubhabdas73703 жыл бұрын
Jai Hind bhai!🙏
@yourstrulytk12worldaffairs3 жыл бұрын
awww
@DerekKerton Жыл бұрын
Guy climbs up a ladder, and you WON'T BELIEVE what happens next!!!
@menacingcar0449Ай бұрын
(I talked to MR BEAST!?!)
@RealEngineering3 жыл бұрын
I use “clickworthy”
@angelo.strand3 жыл бұрын
Click clarity
@JamezMartinez3 жыл бұрын
You stole that from Linus
@alonsovm28803 жыл бұрын
*"The Insane Engeneering behind clickbait!*
@devoltar3 жыл бұрын
And yours generally are :) I mentioned this in another comment but your thumbnails also have something Veritasium's need more of - consistent branding/style. I see your videos pop up in my feed and I know who it is and that I should click on it without looking further, which increases the frequency KZbin recommends them to me. The Veritasium videos I click the fastest have Derek's face in them.
@pvic69593 жыл бұрын
Veritasium is clickworthy. "OMG you wont BELEOVE what happens next" and the video is dumb is click bait
@fletcherfrost92663 жыл бұрын
I love how openly self-conscious you are about not only whether or not you are making the best content you can, but doing the right thing in the process. People say it's bad to overthink these things, but the alternative is far worse.
@BobbyDukeArts3 жыл бұрын
Titles and thumbnails are the thing I stress about the most. This was very insightful. Thank you!
@lilchico43813 жыл бұрын
Hi
@iamjimgroth3 жыл бұрын
Your content speaks for itself though. You could number your videos, in name and thumbnail, and people would flock to them.
@veritasium3 жыл бұрын
It's the thing I stress about the most too!
@williamchamberlain22633 жыл бұрын
@@veritasium I think that most scientists have a hard time with paper titles too. Also: KZbin shorts please, a la ActionLabs and The Spiffing Brit
@maskboy27433 жыл бұрын
@@veritasium Can you make another video on the kuramoto model explaining it? I liked it so much i want part 2!
@millicentduke66523 жыл бұрын
I love anti-clickbait. It’s like “here’s the short answer, but we both know I made a video because the long answer is crazy interesting”, and like… fair.
@tehalexy3 жыл бұрын
yeah, those "anti-clickbaits" are unresistable for me. Adam Neely is damn good at it. I love this because you know in a tl;dr what you get but its well made and interesting.
@TheMusicalFruit3 жыл бұрын
Anti-clickbait is win win, in my opinion. You get the effect of clickbait but you also continue to respect the intelligence of your audience. Do salt lamps work? Anyone with a basic understanding of chemistry and physics would probably guess the answer is "No" but I was very interested to see how the channel investigated the question.
@merlinkater77563 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Check the thumbnail of "How Much Money I Made From Game Development This Past Year" by Miziziziz. Great example.
@dancinswords3 жыл бұрын
It's kind of like a guarantee; they're willing to give away the short answer for free, so the long answer _must_ be interesting. It also feels ballsy and subversive, which engenders respect
@GermaphobeMusic3 жыл бұрын
This is what I love about Tom Scott and Vsauce. Sometimes, the simplest things can create the most intrigue.
@elouansimon4 ай бұрын
Yo, how are we small channels supposed to compete when the big guys are boosting themselves with tools like sem rush and social plus? Feels like we're grinding hard but not getting the same visibility. Anyway, wishing everyone luck on their growth!
@elouansimon3 ай бұрын
@@Galeriarch haha good point
@alpine92143 ай бұрын
Government regulations for monopolizing?
@benmiche20272 ай бұрын
and this comment alone is a click bait 😉
@mrcat64332 ай бұрын
Use the same tricks, make thumbnails with more click-appeal
@CanIHasThisNameАй бұрын
Small channels have a much easier time to grow and sustain growth. KZbin actually goes out of its way to promote smaller channels.
@m1a1jake3 жыл бұрын
The key difference is that your videos actually deliver the satisfaction that the title and thumbnail teases us with.
@cristianestrada53812 жыл бұрын
Legitbait
@jaceycrouch49172 жыл бұрын
Exactly. When a subscriber is consistently dissatisfied by starving curiosity then this falls apart. Thankfully I have yet to find a video that was misrepresented on this channel.
@AceFaz2 жыл бұрын
Type 1 clickbait- He's pretty bad at it though, this guy didn't even put, "(ft. MrBeast)" in this title xD
@Alic44442 жыл бұрын
@@AceFaz 😂
@lyricsassam2 жыл бұрын
@@AceFaz that's the point, I don't click on Veritasium's videos to see Mr. Beast.
@smartereveryday3 жыл бұрын
Yup
@Jam-zc1fo3 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@nathijomac3 жыл бұрын
I concur
@levivanveen65683 жыл бұрын
well said
@josiahbarnes25193 жыл бұрын
yup
@sgnosymfoemos3 жыл бұрын
I disagree. Here's why:
@StevenHe3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for being so truthful👑 you’ll always be a legend in my eyes
@Rekker13 жыл бұрын
Yo it's the guy from Beijing corn
@marclabouchardiere87133 жыл бұрын
yo didn't know the ceo of Beijing corn was interested by clickbait
@sugunyt18003 жыл бұрын
Hey Steven one of your biggest fan here
@justicebydeathnote3 жыл бұрын
STOOPID
@thebarkingmouse3 жыл бұрын
"Stuff with the most engagement rises to the top." Utter BS. "Stuff that fits Wojcicki's & the woke mafia rises to the top, while inconvenient facts are buried. Fixed it for you.
@BrookeRooney2 жыл бұрын
I love the transparency of this video!!! Not only is this super helpful for the average viewer to be aware of, and the budding content creator to be aware of-but you're also able to highlight the values of you and your channel! I applaud the hell out of you for this. Seriously. Thank you
@MateusRapini3 жыл бұрын
The BEST non-clickbait clickbait video I've ever seen!
@nathanvarghese.3 жыл бұрын
Funny how he interviewed Mrbeast - He's the one who does most clickbait on youtube!!!!!!!!
@shalomnoah73093 жыл бұрын
🙌🏼
@blockbusterng3 жыл бұрын
(not clickbait)
@rizwantarar42083 жыл бұрын
Naah man ... you got click baited to this click bait video
@krifik_kentang3 жыл бұрын
Type I clickbait
@23iros3 жыл бұрын
I think "The Secret of Synchronization" might outperform "The Surprising Secret of Synchronization" because the audience learned that "Surprising" often leads to Type II clickbaits.
@snuffeldjuret3 жыл бұрын
indeed
@kimvangvideomarketerbangko32653 жыл бұрын
I also think it moved the emphasis away from "secret," which is more powerful than "surprising."
@百合仙子3 жыл бұрын
Indeed. And I'm not surprised. Realizing a title is fake feels pretty bad and frustrated, and being not surprised like the title says suggests I might not be the target audience.
@RaptorNX013 жыл бұрын
@@百合仙子 plus the majority of the time you aren't actually surprised. esp given that you often click on videos that are already within the realm of your knowledge or interests. to use a recent example I saw, if there is some video claiming to reveal some secret about the matrix films, you likely will only click on it if you know about or are a fan of those films. the only people likely to ever actually be surprised are people that probably would never click on such a video.
@aucklandnewzealand20233 жыл бұрын
We Synchronized and found out the hidden secret
@IMredard3 жыл бұрын
"I'm terrible at making clickbait" I believe you, even though you had Mr.Beast in your video you didn't use him as a clickbait in the thumbnail. Great Video
@mkannan3 жыл бұрын
Check back again in a few days :P
@alexpaw34933 жыл бұрын
Exactly what I was about to comment, lol
@rudi-gs2pd3 жыл бұрын
i was about to comment same thing lol
@Rishabh_Joshi_3 жыл бұрын
😂
@meltice_official3 жыл бұрын
Lmao, but if you hover over the video, the preview shows Mr. Beast in it, this has to be some advance lvl planing and non can tell me different
@xmartofskyx2 жыл бұрын
I was to send Veritasium team a message exactly on this topic! I was getting your videos on my feed for sometime now, but avoiding them because the titles and thumbnails looked like clickbait. Last week I finally gave up and decided to watch one. I was so happy I had finally found a channel about science that is serious rather than sensational (on a personal note, this what I miss most about science channels on television)... And was thinking to myself, now that I know about the channel, I'd watch any video, even if the title sounds more "classical" or "boring". Now the reason is explained. Thanks for making the content that you make, see you around!
@EvanAndKatelyn3 жыл бұрын
It's been really interesting watching the title and thumbnail of this video change! Loved the video
@Synotics3 жыл бұрын
Same! Was here first at something along the lines of "im bad at clickbait" , now back (8/19/21 3:44 CST) and its "Clickbait is Unreasonably Effective"
@Synotics3 жыл бұрын
But I think same thumbnail? I'm hoping there will be a follow-up from Veritasium that goes over all the titles/thumbnails.
@skodrox26873 жыл бұрын
potatoes
@onikinhas3 жыл бұрын
Look! It's my favorite creator couple on on one of my favorite channels ❤️
@jaredwatson60133 жыл бұрын
The first one I saw was “the truth about clickbait”
@dw66003 жыл бұрын
Day 1: “We need to talk about clickbait” Day 2: “Mr. Beast and I need to talk about clickbait” Day 3: "Mr. Beast and I almost died when we talked about clickbait"
@thommylicious3 жыл бұрын
Day 4: "Mr. Beast and I almost died. GOING SUS / POSSIBLE INTERCOURSE"
@tommytomthms53 жыл бұрын
day 4: I shot Mr. Beast! 😱 (with information)
@xarpe38063 жыл бұрын
Underrated comment
@yomer3553 жыл бұрын
day 666: amogus
@aidanjanemcintosh69193 жыл бұрын
Day 5: It's all over. End of our channels?
@The8BitGuy3 жыл бұрын
As a creator, I'm all too familiar with this problem. And it stinks for me because I'd rather spend all of my time focused on creating the content, but instead I have to waste a lot of time finding the right thumbnails. And I still to this day have some of my best videos that rarely get viewed because I simply haven't figured out the right clickbait for them.
@vautier_3 жыл бұрын
What are your best videos that go unnoticed?
@Kandralla3 жыл бұрын
You're the opposite to my comment above. Veratassium rarely gets a view from me because "picture with a word" = click bait and I don't even bother looking at the creator. I'll click on yours because I know I enjoy your content and your branding is consistent. Its a really shitty thing that Google has created here.
@bhatkrishnakishor3 жыл бұрын
Hi
@JinseiMatterswithRoy3 жыл бұрын
We have something in common. Spend lot of time creating educational videos and yet less than a hundred views 🤦♀️
@Rpendrick3 жыл бұрын
Eh as a subscriber with notifications to both you and Veritasium I see everything and tend to skip clickbaity titles. Unless like Veritasium’s and they aren’t flat out insultingly desperate.
@flowersArePretty19 ай бұрын
After this was posted I realized that your thumbnails are a perfect balance, in the title you state what the video is about, “the most misunderstood concept in physics”, but then to not withhold information, the thumbnail is one word “entropy” so the viewers get a taste on what the concept and video is about
@BasicallyHomeless3 жыл бұрын
Man this was so great to watch. Legitbait is hard when you’re overthinking. How can one get in touch with these title and thumbnail experts? 😅🤝
@tyriekovco7113 жыл бұрын
Thought you died 😳🥺
@shadow_stalk3 жыл бұрын
You dont need a clickbait when your smacking kids on r6s with a POTATO!! Title smacking kids in r6s with a potato!!!!!
@BasicallyHomeless3 жыл бұрын
@@tyriekovco711 had baby vid soon
@olivertuomola3 жыл бұрын
@@BasicallyHomeless lol congrats!
@OkieDokieSmokie3 жыл бұрын
Misder Hummus is here?
@giulianoTantelo3 жыл бұрын
"I want to make science documentaries in youtube that puts broadcast to shame" And to be honest, you have. It made me reflect on how have I got into interesting science topics in the last 8 years, and its been mostly through your videos. And thats a lot because I just graduated as a biologist! It is thanks to your videos and videos from others like Michael from Vsauce that I keep finding my passion about science. So thank you. I always go back to some of your videos (What is not random and Our Greatest Delusion) because they are truly inspirational. You are the Carl Sagan of a generation!
@samuelthecamel3 жыл бұрын
I actually watched a TV documentary recently and it was absolute garbage compared to what I saw on KZbin for the same topic.
@zncon3 жыл бұрын
After getting used to good KZbin creators, traditional broadcast educational material has been basically ruined for me. The cuts, excessive editing, overly dramatic acting and more things I only just 'feel' really make them less enjoyable to watch these days. As an example - I used to love Mythbusters but I can't go back and rewatch it because there's only a few minutes of real content and the rest is just hype and acting.
@ThunderDraws3 жыл бұрын
This is so true - some KZbin creators are just outstanding and just the best in the world - bigger budgets don’t help there either (if you don’t have the talent)
@KevinStratvert3 жыл бұрын
KZbin should properly support a/b testing in creator studio. It would make this type of performance analysis a lot easier and would likely benefit the platform.
@genericuser14543 жыл бұрын
It would be nice but I don't think it would be very easy for them to actually pull off
@GalileoCap3 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure they did for a while but ended up scrapping it
@mistersir3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that was my immediate thought too, but I think there's one really difficult problem to solve Let's say I watch a video called "Why clickbait is bad!" My friend tells to search it on KZbin I try to find that video, but I can't, because for ME it's actually called "The science of clickbait". But because I don't know that since KZbin is A/B testing me, I never find it I tell him I can't find it, so he sends me a link. but now is someone who maybe hasn't really used KZbin before, I'm extremely confused why I wasn't able to find the video until he sent me the link
@pratikharani31023 жыл бұрын
@@mistersir that's a really good point indeed. A/B testing does have its downsides I suppose.
@randommcranderson51553 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure it would actively make clickbait more common than already there, and make the entire platform worse.
@RonniesRambles Жыл бұрын
I could not stop watching this video. You have opened my eyes to the very thing missing from my titles and thumbnails. As you have demonstrated in the video and with your thumbnail and title, it suddenly becomes clear to me. Very much appreciated, thank you.
@jmvjeroen3 жыл бұрын
"I don't want to make vlogs, I want to make science documentaries on KZbin that puts broadcast to shame." And for that, I love this channel
@hynjus0013 жыл бұрын
Also, mission accomplished!
@indianjitsingh88383 жыл бұрын
That line was savage
@rafielk36063 жыл бұрын
I've always thought that Tom Scott has the perfect balance between clickbait ( or in this case legitbait) and interesting content that isn't misleading.
@Louis-fh4sh3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely. There are a few that come to mind. "I promise this story about microwaves is interesting" is real good it was interesting, too, so legitbait
@lucbloom3 жыл бұрын
@@Louis-fh4sh Yeah that was Tom worrying too much about the same thing as this channel. Meanwhile subs know it’s legitbait 1000% and click when the bell rings. Other newbs who get lulled into viewing won’t mind either. It’s the people who *don’t* worry about sounding like clickbait that we hate :-D
@yesjo14563 жыл бұрын
tom scott is great
@youtoober20133 жыл бұрын
So true. None come to mind for me... like Mr. Beast seems obvious, but it's his content that brings in the views not his legitbait. Now that you mention it though, I can't think of anyone better than Joe Scott. It's actually the perfect, most decent, engaging and informative, consumer-friendly balance of piquing my curiosity and letting me know if it's worth my time to click at any time. I watch every video eventually because he is exactly so forthright.
@youtoober20133 жыл бұрын
Wait. I thought we were talking about _Joe_ Scott. Yeah, Tom's not bad either I guess, but Joe's videos are _WAY_ more digestible.
@brizzly17873 жыл бұрын
I think Tom Scott does a great job with the title and thumbnail. Not obnoxious, but genuinely interesting. CGP Grey is also pretty good. I like that overall style.
@GrandElemental3 жыл бұрын
With Tom Scott's videos, the title matches exactly what he delivers: interesting topic explored well in the limits of the time frame. It never feels cheap and I never get the idea that I was tricked into clicking them.
@dputra3 жыл бұрын
I agree gcp titles and thumbnails are legitbait
@extagram3 жыл бұрын
@@GrandElemental But I don't think you can pull that off with veritasiam content though.
@parag2633 жыл бұрын
Tom's Red Tshirt is enough to get my click
@lak17963 жыл бұрын
I agree. But Tom's video is a whole different ball game from super educational veritasium videos, so they are unapplicable.
@hnc1500 Жыл бұрын
This channel doesn’t make Clickbait, it doesn’t constantly ask to like, subscribe and leave a comment. That’s why I’ve subscribed, always like, and leave comments 😊😊😊
@Taikamuna3 жыл бұрын
Alternative title: "I CLICKBAITED My Audience And You WON'T BELIEVE What Happened Next 😨!!!"
@coffeenator32193 жыл бұрын
Oh big Finnish channel. Torilla tavataan 🥳😉
@Lunar_3603 жыл бұрын
Fakebait
@aneeb62693 жыл бұрын
@@Lunar_360 also add (Mind blowing result!!!)
@dug39523 жыл бұрын
@Thishan Mallawa Arachchi LMFAOOOOO I WAS GONNA SAY THAT
@TaigiTWeseDiplomat--Formosan3 жыл бұрын
I think the current title will only attract the people who want to know how all of this work.
@FlyntofRWBY3 жыл бұрын
It’d be cool if KZbin let us upload multiple thumbnail/title combos with each video. It would show each of the combos to different sets of people, then depending on which one has the best CTR, it would start to show that one more and more to the masses.
@JoeJoel3 жыл бұрын
Interesting. This is kind of how Tinder shows people pictures on your dating profile.
@Maximus-rm7jn3 жыл бұрын
funny enough, this is how google handles news articles in order to get more clicks(and thus revenue) overall.
@Girugi3 жыл бұрын
I bet they could do one better... They can even segment viewers into hidden categories and test each group (ex, age groups and content habits), then assign each group the thumbnail and title that works best in that group automatically. I know KZbin already have a lot of this data for its recommendations. So just also use it to test and select thumbnails too.
@WilcoVerhoef3 жыл бұрын
A/B testing
@catdisc53043 жыл бұрын
I like the idea. Leave the clickbait to the machines
@waiitwhaat3 жыл бұрын
Veritasium is a man of his word. Veritasium: I'm bad at clickbait Also Veritasium: Doesn't say ft. Mr Beast
@psyclone13493 жыл бұрын
Ur right, any other youtuber would hv milked the opportunity to say they had MrBeast in their video
@RamsesTheFourth3 жыл бұрын
I have no idea who that guy was.
@Steelrat19943 жыл бұрын
I would've skipped the video if it had a ft. *random guy* unless it's some other youtuber I like a lot. And I think I'm not alone in this approach to that kind of clickbait. So it's a choice between: - trying to attract everyone outside the set of people who watch veritasium with let's call it a "normal" probability of success. - trying to attract *random guy's* audience with a higher than "normal" probability of success, but everyone else with a lower than "normal" probability. Good luck estimating the probabilities to figure out a better choice)
@psyclone13493 жыл бұрын
@@Steelrat1994I don't get why u would skip a video if it had a "random guy" featuring, even if I don't know who the youtuber is , I would still check what the video is about without just skipping.
@dontmisunderstand6041 Жыл бұрын
When people talk about clickbait, they mean they're being lied to. That's really what it's about.
@Aphova3 жыл бұрын
20 minutes of wondering "Why is he on a ladder" with no relief at the end in a video about clickbait. Meta game is strong in this one.
@christopherstark8873 жыл бұрын
i agree
@mrshickadance68153 жыл бұрын
do you walk up to a couple in the street and question why they’re holding hands? i imagine not, so why question why he is simply holding onto his lover?
@JSBnl3 жыл бұрын
exactly what i was thinking
@wistfulgraph3 жыл бұрын
“The Strange Applications of the Magnus Affect” could’ve been “I threw a ball off a dam! You WONT believe what happens!!!”
@sincostanlogin3 жыл бұрын
(Gone sexual) *mouth agape*
@perikholt33953 жыл бұрын
Add a “thumbnail face” and I would never have found out what happens.
@Liwet.3 жыл бұрын
Type 2 Clickbait.
@tagnetorare54013 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a 3-year-old
@otofoto3 жыл бұрын
@@perikholt3395 Liar
@pingo4003 жыл бұрын
Ironically, the original title was more similar to "lets have a talk about clickbait" and I chose not to click it since it was to vague. I only chose to click it after seeing the name change to "clickbait is unreasonably effective"
@wargamulaya3 жыл бұрын
It was "We need to talk about clickbait"
@JustinS063 жыл бұрын
I had the same lol
@V0odOo3 жыл бұрын
I added it to my watch later list with the first title, because I saw the other video of his on this topic years ago and wanted to know what he has to say now. I wouldn't have watched it with the new one though, because duh, of course it is unreasonably effective. And so I would expect less new thoughts/angles/whatever on the clickbait matter from him.
@NielsChristianNielsen67203 жыл бұрын
Which it was.
@tears_of_asariel31983 жыл бұрын
i clicked the video on "We need to talk about clickbait" but i was pulled away from the computer to do other things, finally came back to it now though lol
@SnowBunny_Elle2 ай бұрын
I think this is a universal truth everyone has experienced in a grocery checkout lane with all the tabloids doing exactly this. Most of us "want" to find out what the teases are on the cover but also most of us also know it's all just bs.
@lachlanswanson15823 жыл бұрын
I love how he just narrates his videos from random places like a ladder
@Haannibal7773 жыл бұрын
I thought the same. Initially I asked myself, “why doesn’t he do slides and then narrate them?” But that cannot show his face easily. I think his setup, although totally strange and non-conventional, is easy to do with minimal amount of work.
@babab_m3 жыл бұрын
That ladder is what got me to click
@pauldacus45903 жыл бұрын
Alternate Title: *KZbinr Overwhelmed by Clickbait Guilt, Nearly Dies Jumping From Ladder*
@vigilantcosmicpenguin87213 жыл бұрын
Let's calculate how much he risked his life.
@jvsonyt3 жыл бұрын
Now I HAVE to watch the whole video!
@sgx98743 жыл бұрын
i think its a bit too long...
@darklight69213 жыл бұрын
@Bob Kay mr beast colab.
@stumbling3 жыл бұрын
Will This Crazy KZbinr Fall To His Untimely Death?!?!?!
@DrBecky3 жыл бұрын
As an astronomer, I fully approve of the division of clickbait into "Type I" and "Type II"
@dehanbadenhorst13983 жыл бұрын
Hey, love your videos
@boredomblasters17873 жыл бұрын
Hey!! I watch your videos
@latitzouri3 жыл бұрын
What's the link with being an astronomer 😅
@herobrain3 жыл бұрын
@@latitzouri Astronomers divide supernovas into 2 types: Type I supernova, Type II supernova.
@AnindyaMahajan3 жыл бұрын
@@latitzouri Type I and Type II Supernova
@nghiado9895 Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@kentdetrick58653 жыл бұрын
I am impressed with how he stood on a ladder staring at a projector light for hours filming this. I would be blind and suffering from a recent fall if I were Derek. PS: I really like the visual learner vid.
@AlexiaHDIntuition3 жыл бұрын
Yeah totally me too
@raulaassisb3 жыл бұрын
I’m still asking... “But why?” “Is it for the legitbait?”
@WoLpH3 жыл бұрын
I think Tom Scott is pretty good at this. While his titles are often clickbaity, he always delivers on the promise but not always as you would expect.
@Baulder133 жыл бұрын
His videos always leave me with more questions which is actually a good thing. I end up on wikipedia for hours.
@LimeyLassen3 жыл бұрын
Tom Scott has enough clout to get away with stuff others can't. Like "I promise this video about microwaves is interesting".
@Taima3 жыл бұрын
Sort of a less schizophrenic vsauce
@shashwatsharma25963 жыл бұрын
I always feel weird about falling for clickbait, but when I watch his, or Veritasium, or smarter every day, I am always pleasantly surprised
@logicbomb90263 жыл бұрын
or vsauce 2
@scarletspidernz3 жыл бұрын
**The Clickbait Paradox** **Here's how you're getting Dupechuted** **Man stands on ladder for almost 20mins, here's why**
@KevinJohnMulligan3 жыл бұрын
The ladder one is great 🤣🤣🤣
@Joe-nb3fs3 жыл бұрын
At no point in this video did he explain why he was on a ladder. jebaited.
@ChivalrousVeteran3 жыл бұрын
@@Joe-nb3fs : he's on the "ladder to success" - oh why couldn't i resist; and why am i actually laughing ... ??!!
@mestiarcanus3 жыл бұрын
@@Joe-nb3fs I think you mean dupechuted!
@BradTheAmerican3 жыл бұрын
Gonna try adding "dupechuted" to my vocab
@rmclean3 Жыл бұрын
I love the humility in pointing out that titling a video "Strange Applications of the Magnus Effect" was not a great marketing strategy. That being said, you are killing it on the viewership front and this is one of my favourite channels!
@SamiKankaristo3 жыл бұрын
A trend on KZbin, that I really like, are videos where the title might be clickbait-y, but the thumbnail "fixes" the curiosity gap. So, while the title alone might be clickbait, the title+thumbnail is legitbait. A lot of Veritasium videos are good examples: The Biggest Myth in Education (thumbnail answers what the myth is: "You are not a visual learner") Backspin Basketball Flies Off Dam (the thumbnail answers why: "Magnus effect") Without the "answers" in the thumbnail, I would probably call the above titles clickbait, but with them, I don't think they're clickbait.
@mrbigsmile39023 жыл бұрын
Or "The simplest math problem no one can solve" with thumbnail "3x + 1" which would have been way too clickbaity otherwise. I agree, it's a great approach.
@Ax00xL3 жыл бұрын
Or i think the best so far: Do salt lamps work? no.
@riverw47213 жыл бұрын
Adam Neely does this a lot. Title asks question, thumbnail answers question.
@sashakindel36003 жыл бұрын
It doesn't feel exploitative to me, which I appreciate a lot.
@pramilashaktawat44293 жыл бұрын
❗SERCH ADITYA RATHORE-HE ALSO MAKES INFORMATIVE CONTENT LIKE VERTASIUM
@egodeath20073 жыл бұрын
Veritasium basically exposing himself is the most truthful thing I've seen on KZbin.
@HideFromIt3 жыл бұрын
No one could expose me so I did it myself
@WraithlingRavenchild3 жыл бұрын
And showing his respect for us, proves he deserves our respect.
@michaelwallace92913 жыл бұрын
Personally. If a thumbnail has a person doing that fake surprise beta open mouth face. Out of spite I mark it uninterested.
@RatusMax3 жыл бұрын
I am still watching the video, does he speak about how YT is segregating the people and putting them in echo chambers? How it is making people impulsive quick to reject information from other points of views? How when they are given opposite information, they reinforce their thoughts with the information from their feeds? We're all screwed and we don't know it yet...
@bixmcgoo53553 жыл бұрын
Yeah until he says he doesn't do it for money
@channingmcgregorsmith3 жыл бұрын
Best legitbait title ever: "The ingenious design of the aluminum beverage can"
@kashu76913 жыл бұрын
best video on this site
@walidfakhfakh36603 жыл бұрын
@@kashu7691 Anna Capone bodyguard
@ick-6253 жыл бұрын
Engineering guy's?
@walidfakhfakh36603 жыл бұрын
@@ick-625 yes you come in this is marvelous Anna in the bathroom of the hotel room you have to jump into the Russian about changing Smith Sam Smith's about this peanuts nuages about the tombstone that I could find intuited highlighted peanuts
@NickiRusin3 жыл бұрын
@@walidfakhfakh3660 are you ok
@ericfitzgerald20848 ай бұрын
I like that the titles of your best videos sound a lot like good titles for newspaper articles... you're just using good journalism rules. Thank you for sharing this.
@Jack42_3 жыл бұрын
The Og title was “We Need To Talk About Clickbait” it’s now “Clickbait is Unreasonably Effective”
@zthehuman70513 жыл бұрын
Yep
@mthlay153 жыл бұрын
....funny thing is I've seen the thumbnail for a few days. Tonight I clicked it. Why? I don't know 😭😆
@callmeterry53713 жыл бұрын
@@mthlay15 same bro haha
@djjimmaster82613 жыл бұрын
@@mthlay15 omg same
@silverish90813 жыл бұрын
And the new one is more descriptive and probably performs better
@jehanr3 жыл бұрын
How is this not called "Mr Beast teaches me about clickbait" and include Mr Beast in the thumbnail? (Or maybe it will soon! Or maybe it did!)
@Rekisen13 жыл бұрын
the thumbnail did when it was uploaded but he changed it after a couple of hours
@Althar933 жыл бұрын
I think it did and he is specifically testing the effects of the thumbnail on the click-through-rate by swapping between different ones.
@Shmidershmax3 жыл бұрын
@@Rekisen1 Was there a red circle around him?
@davibergamin59433 жыл бұрын
@@Shmidershmax there was a red arrow
@kevinross62353 жыл бұрын
@@Rekisen1 My memory is bad cause I don't remember that lol
@howridiculous3 жыл бұрын
Glad to see the Magnus Effect is still helping generate some content for you Derek haha
@amismarterthanmy6thgrader3 жыл бұрын
#44 love your stuff guys
@intruder91273 жыл бұрын
Epic
@x0cx1023 жыл бұрын
Oh you’re the guy who also uploaded that clip iirc
@madhusai2203 жыл бұрын
What happens when a spinning basketball is thrown off the dam!
@hangry31023 жыл бұрын
I never knew Veritasium's name until now, learn something new every day
@Bobbbybags2 жыл бұрын
I was just surfing through your videos for something to watch and thinking to my self “I really appreciate how he doesn’t use clickbait” then I landed on this video.
@conall94153 жыл бұрын
"I'm terrible at making clickbait." Really? "Risking My Life To Settle A Physics Debate" was an immediately clickable title. Edit: This is a compliment, not an accusation.
@veritasium3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I didn't come up with that - that was the team.
@bhavyasingh54103 жыл бұрын
@@veritasium Hi Man...
@bhavyasingh54103 жыл бұрын
@@veritasium Love your Videos.... From past 6 years
@MrTorygg3 жыл бұрын
@@veritasium bruh
@TheSwarm6663 жыл бұрын
@@veritasium what was the original title going to be?
@polcyon3 жыл бұрын
This guy stared into a projector for 20 minutes for our education Respect.
@MarioX18183 жыл бұрын
Yeah about that....
@tonyfalapatt13083 жыл бұрын
i hope its a joke...but we have 2 hrs class using projectors.....
@mal2ksc3 жыл бұрын
@@tonyfalapatt1308 Are you in the beam of the projector? Because it's like trying to ignore someone shining a flashlight at you. Otherwise... that's a nice projector. I just don't understand why he couldn't put everything two feet lower and stand on the ground, rather than using a ladder.
@jacobshirley34573 жыл бұрын
@@mal2ksc Novelty, especially for long-term subscribers.
@gklnth1873 жыл бұрын
"I'm terrible at click bait" Yet I'm here
@BobAndrews693 жыл бұрын
He makes good content
@HmHm-xz9nv3 жыл бұрын
Well we clicked on the notification, not the thumbnail.
@PinkeySuavo3 жыл бұрын
@@HmHm-xz9nv True, I watch Veritasium no matter what he posts. Thats the power of getting true subscribers. You get some constant views, and then u can aim for more random people
@teemuleppa33473 жыл бұрын
and yet millions of others are not
@WanderTheNomad3 жыл бұрын
You are but a single data point. Amongst possibly millions of people who may or may not have clicked on the video.
@BryceLynch-v3p11 ай бұрын
Honestly, most of your video titles don't sound that interesting to me, but then I watch them and I'm fascinated Great channel. Love it
@Project-Air3 жыл бұрын
I was just thinking I hope you do more meta videos about the platform! You have such a helpful perspective using all the science!
@matthewwatson95023 жыл бұрын
Yo James!
@pramilashaktawat44293 жыл бұрын
🟢SERCH ADITYA RATHORE-HE ALSO MAKES INFORMATIVE CONTENT LIKE VERTASIUM
@brayden29833 жыл бұрын
although when Mr. Beast's Video titled something like "If You click on this video, You get a chance to win 1M dollars" I never ended up watching the video. The Click bait made me not want to watch the video.
@dudefromsa3 жыл бұрын
Agreed!
@nathanvarghese.3 жыл бұрын
Funny how he interviewed Mrbeast - He's the one who does most clickbait on youtube!!!!!!!!
@NickNimmin3 жыл бұрын
This was fantastic! I also want to acknowledge how much time you probably spent on that ladder.
@Considerers3 жыл бұрын
Right, i was thinking "I hope he wore shoes with thick soles for this"
@Considerers3 жыл бұрын
Nevermind, just noticed he was not wearing shoes at all
@000Gua0003 жыл бұрын
He was risking his life and health to make this video.
@jairm.jr.99913 жыл бұрын
He also might have a burnt spot in his eyes from the projector
@AstronomyGarage3 жыл бұрын
@@000Gua000 Only 9% life risking, so it might not meet his metric, lol. :)
@space16073 жыл бұрын
The fact that I avoided this video for three days just to finally click it proves that clickbait always wins.
@ChrisGoblinHD3 жыл бұрын
Right with you
@tamadz10093 жыл бұрын
Same
@harleyspeedthrust40133 жыл бұрын
the thumbnail changed at some point in the past few days. I don't remember exactly what it said before but it wasn't "Here's the proof" like it is now
@aleshatim3 жыл бұрын
@@harleyspeedthrust4013 for me it's "Clickbait is unreasonably effective" right now o_O
@yanboa3 жыл бұрын
Exactly! “Here’s the proof” is exactly the point where I, and I assume, most of us, will have finally clicked... ;)
@SAKURA8023o2 жыл бұрын
Unsub or block is a nice way to fight against low quality clickbaits.
@LeventK3 жыл бұрын
"Why is clickbait everywhere? Well... because it works." *Reality is often disappointing.*
@veritasium3 жыл бұрын
I feel you
@chromiyum68493 жыл бұрын
@@veritasium to be really honest, i love your videos so much that even if you upload a 30 min video with the title "i cant think of a title" i'd still happily jump to click it! ;D
@shelekhov3 жыл бұрын
Banner advertisement worked very well once. Few don't know how ugly it ended. Recent youtube's policies make me open platform less and less. 2 unskippable adds for a freaking minute...
@maluraq3 жыл бұрын
See also spam and scams in general. They work.
@deputydog19953 жыл бұрын
Yes. That's why many people prefer to spend their time elsewhere than in reality.
@BoomBrush3 жыл бұрын
"We need to talk about clickbait" > No red circles or arrows in clickbait thumbnail Yes.
@nabhchandra_3 жыл бұрын
there is a red arrow tho
@ThreeMountainsStudio3 жыл бұрын
Don't you see the red arrow?
@tpgmflint3 жыл бұрын
@@ThreeMountainsStudio he probably just changed the thumbnail lol
@IteKLF3 жыл бұрын
"Clickbaits: How to get good at KZbin" could also work..
@YuvanSeth273 жыл бұрын
> No Mr. Beast in the thumbnail
@zoks3 жыл бұрын
Honestly this should just be an AB testing feature that KZbin offers to their creators. You submit multiple pairs of thumbnails and for limited time KZbin will show all of those to same number of people. Then after the initial experiment only the pair with most impressions is shown to any new people.
@tobiastzfanya39493 жыл бұрын
That's a great idea - it would help level the playing field for smaller and less experienced creators.
@brilliancesigma90633 жыл бұрын
Facebook ads have A/B testing. I wonder why KZbin doesn’t
@felsiq3 жыл бұрын
That's a great idea
@Mike_Dubayou3 жыл бұрын
I’m pretty sure that is a thing, unless I’ve just seen creators manually change their thumbnails. I have absolutely seen different thumbnails for the same recently uploaded videos.
@Ojja783 жыл бұрын
Looks like Mike doesn't watch the videos that he's commenting on.
@shadowfpv4701 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this channel and all the work you guys have put into these videos. Never stop learning and exploring!
@CuriosityShow3 жыл бұрын
All true, and it is why newspapers used to hire good sub editors to think up catchy headlines for articles. Journalists often protested that the headlines didn't reflect the content of what they wrote, but the catchy headlines got the readers for their copy - Rob
@csn5833 жыл бұрын
And then we stopped reading past the end of the headline...
@davidwuhrer67043 жыл бұрын
If the headline doesn't say what the article is about, I simply won't read it. There are too many headlines like that, ain't nobody got time for that. But what I noticed is that if there are numbers in the headline, those numbers will be different in the lede, and different again in the article. For example: Thousands dead! In a catastrophy last week, hundreds have died… … The two people who have died… I also noticed that in newspaper forums, the commenters are usually refering to the headline, not the article. Sometimes I wonder why journalists even bother.
@Legion8493 жыл бұрын
@@csn583 I will not read the whole article just to know what's it about. The headline should make it clear what happened I don't have the time to read the whole thing
@To-mos3 жыл бұрын
Truly a travesty.
@Classified1413 жыл бұрын
Ok rob
@IshaanOP073 жыл бұрын
First title: We need to talk about clickbait second title: Clickbait is Unreasonably Effective
@simonlomet3 жыл бұрын
I only saw the second one, and I don't think I would necessarily have clicked on the first one. First one has an ambiguous and almost negative tone, which, I think, would have made me think that the video would be about 'what is wrong with clickbait' (something I already saw a lot) in contrast to the second one which have a more neutral and pragmatic tone and made me think the video will be about the phenomenon as a whole with an interesting way of seeing it (including data with the thumbnail).
@joecerone3 жыл бұрын
I only ended up clicking after the title change 😂🤣
@bradbobov48153 жыл бұрын
🌚
@MysticKenji23 жыл бұрын
i clicked on the first one (it was in my subs) but didn't get around to watching it until after the title changed. wonder how many other people this happened to
@johncao65163 жыл бұрын
Saw the first title, didn't have time to watch it at the time. When I returned it has changed.
@IncroyablesExperiences3 жыл бұрын
10M well deserved, my favorite channel for years!
@EzT323 жыл бұрын
What are you talking about? He doesn’t have 10M already.
@noone-hd1ck3 жыл бұрын
170 k still left bro
@EzT323 жыл бұрын
@@noone-hd1ck Think he is one of those who spams comment in order to scrape just a few more subs off of his checkmark.
@EzT323 жыл бұрын
@Yousef Alwitry 2 on this channel. And they often have than amount cause they comment everywhere. Not saying that he is one for sure.
@Amezith3 жыл бұрын
from future?
@AndyGoesOutside Жыл бұрын
love this projector and ladder stype of presenting
@uncreative3693 жыл бұрын
"I don't want to make Vlogs I want to make science documentaries on KZbin that put broadcast to shame" -Veritasium (Best description of his channel)
@damien41973 жыл бұрын
"We need to talk about clickbait" "Clickbait is unreasonably effective" Trying to get me to watch the same video twice, huh, I see how it is.
@jajefan1234567893 жыл бұрын
lol he practices what he preaches :D
@themrpancake3 жыл бұрын
^ Almost a wooosh
@thomasmaier70533 жыл бұрын
Am I part of an experiment?
@BrownMInc3 жыл бұрын
Hehe
@giambo75473 жыл бұрын
The first title was better imo
@razorstone30883 жыл бұрын
"KZbinrs hate him !" watch this physicist reveal their secrets
@rags7073 жыл бұрын
Win at KZbin with this one weird trick
@ED-yy4te3 жыл бұрын
In the hood, gone sexual. POLICE CALLED
@Yamato_GD3 жыл бұрын
@Rita 25 y.o - check my vidéó "Woman is snoring loudly and president hears it, instantly regret it."
@MaX271 Жыл бұрын
This video mad me realize why I click on less and less videos from Veritasium and its increasing clickbait title and thumbnails. Building the curiosity gap takes time, so overall there is less and less to learn and the video length rises.
@prateekgautam55143 жыл бұрын
"I wanna make science documentaries on youtube that put broadcast to shame", this is the reason why I watch Veritasium, love the confidence and motivation. It's also inspiring me to start my own channel
@-8_8-3 жыл бұрын
Yes, This and not amazing clickbait guy.
@DecoratingBeautifully3 жыл бұрын
He's in a class of his own. love the channel
@AGlimpseInside3 жыл бұрын
I like “Trickbait” for the misleading Legitbait…. That’s a good one!
@billcipher21443 жыл бұрын
Didn't expect you here
@AGlimpseInside3 жыл бұрын
@@billcipher2144 I always watch Ve!
@veritasium3 жыл бұрын
This is not bad! I like it, will forward to Brady for approval.
@AGlimpseInside3 жыл бұрын
@@veritasium Thank you Derek! I appreciate it
@SNL59073 жыл бұрын
Also thought trickbait would sound great for misleading
@windubitably3 жыл бұрын
“I want to make science documentaries on KZbin that put broadcast to shame.” Depending on the network, you’re already there. Keep it up!
@willisbest45933 жыл бұрын
amen, i cant watch most documentarys anymore as they just convey a 15 min vertassium video within 45 min of voicover boringness
@stephaniegarfield291429 ай бұрын
17:10 I was feeling cynical and know-it-all-ish about the concepts you had brought up until this crucial little caveat at the end. Bravo, I really enjoyed this video. It feels easy to write off the value of marketing & social media, to view them as antagonistic towards the actual work - your reflection here helped remind me that all of these factors are somewhat important, especially in creative pursuits.
@JeffGeerling3 жыл бұрын
I just wish KZbin would add an A/B feature so creators didn't have to spend the first few hours/days babysitting their videos to try to achieve a good CTR.
@foobars38163 жыл бұрын
is there an api for this?
@gonzalomorislara88583 жыл бұрын
I mean there is always the youtube api so an A/B feature can already easily be implemented using it. A couple python lines in AWS Lambda do the job fine.
@clickbaitpolice17503 жыл бұрын
It’s not the fact that these clickbait KZbinrs make a lot of money or fame, it’s that they steal a lot of their viewers’ time with irrelevant material, then the actual content you clicked for is at the end of the video. My main focus is the viewers’ time, that’s why I want to stop this clickbait epidemic.
@anesthetized70533 жыл бұрын
sorry for my ignorance but what is an a/b feature? i used to upload videos in the early 2000's and have no idea what that means.
@jonathanclemens37553 жыл бұрын
@@clickbaitpolice1750 Do you have a proposed alternative that is likely to engage viewers and promote time spent on the site?
@Pindexsf3 жыл бұрын
'How kindness can kill.' is the title of our video about effective altruism. It's fairly clickbaity, but people are watching and donating to the most effective charities. I often struggle to know where the line is. If people are happy after watching the video, does that mean it's ok? I don't know. Brilliant video as always Derek.
@giannipiccioni84113 жыл бұрын
I feel that as long as you are not lying, you can be as clickbaity as you want. Your title clearly is interesting, showing a contrast between the words you are using, a paradox that interests people. If in your video you effectively explain why altruism can be dangerous, the title effectively communicates part of the content of the video, in an interesting way. If you phrased it differently, like "Kindness kills", which is almost the same but very different in the meaning, you would have made a false title (because kindness does not kill usually), That is a lie, so a bad kind of clickbait.
@kellymoses85663 жыл бұрын
Main thing is never leave people feeling like the title lied to them.
@Pindexsf3 жыл бұрын
@@giannipiccioni8411 Thanks. It might be that we worry more about this than most viewers, who just want to see good videos, though it's easy to be blinded by incentives. It's not the money (effective altruism groups asked to sponsor videos, and I asked them to keep the money and made a video anyway) - it's the impact. Arguing against political correctness, Stephen Fry said "It's more important to be effective than to be right - in the sense of self-righteous etc." I think there's also a risk of limiting positive impact to save our own embarrassment. And I've just realised that yes, we worry too much about this - I'm rambling - Mr Beast is right : )
@dewgongdakota3 жыл бұрын
Best unintentional self-promotion comment ever, well played.
@Pindexsf3 жыл бұрын
@@philippschreier398 Yes I think that's good, but what if it delivers something slightly different, which they are equally happy with? Can a nice surprise be a good thing?
@marslogos2 жыл бұрын
“Surprising” is an overused clickbait that people are desensitised to; this means that people have developed an immune response to unconsciously ignore such bait.
@had0j2 жыл бұрын
especially ''surprisingly isnt''
@ihavepissinmybrain2 жыл бұрын
6:57 This point still stands true though. The people that ignore clickbait don’t matter. It’s the people that fall for it that do, and more of them come over time.
@marslogos2 жыл бұрын
@@ihavepissinmybrain 15:36
@walidfakhfakh36602 жыл бұрын
@@had0j La bumba sticker Funeral Home in New Castle
@Lavonne98702 жыл бұрын
I think you mean DEsensitized
@魚魚-v9d2 жыл бұрын
Just found myself in love with this dude's presentation
@businessproyects26153 жыл бұрын
I like how he has the high ground.
@AdamBechtol3 жыл бұрын
Well, he thinks he does... :( Pays 'his' bills. lol
@jebediahkerman57703 жыл бұрын
Class G2V Stellar Classification (Sun)
@rafamadeit2 жыл бұрын
Lisa Simpson on a stage energy for sure
@roamintheslums48512 жыл бұрын
just a sign of dominance
@tejvishwajeet2 жыл бұрын
*vietnam flashbacks*
@DaveChurchill3 жыл бұрын
"I'm just gonna make this video on a ladder"
@PhillipAmthor3 жыл бұрын
Well it would be weird if he would have made this video on a bladder, right?
@khil13 жыл бұрын
How else do you make elevated content?!
@samhiatt3 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate people who are willing and so able to share the secrets of their creative processes like this.
@Okatogurui3 жыл бұрын
It's been pretty much open knowledge for years now, but this is the best and most detailed I've seen it explained.
@joshsa4935 Жыл бұрын
KZbin never suggested the "Salt lamps" video to me until you changed the title to what it is now. Something of a confirmation to what you're saying.
@TravelersParadise3 жыл бұрын
I played with thumbnails and titles over the past few months and I can tell you it makes a huge difference, as explained in this video!
@nihilozero3 жыл бұрын
But are the results coming from "better" titles, or simply the act of changing the titles. This seemed unclear to me in Veritasium's video because the chart suddenly showed an influx of new views when the title changed, but how can we know whether it's because the new title was better or simply because it was new?
@HelloKittyFanMan.3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that's a good question, @@nihilozero, if by it you mean the thumbnail too. Because that might produce the "Oh, here's one from this guy that I haven't seen yet!" effect, even for people who'd still find the new name and pic boring, simply because they like just about everything that guy posts. I wonder how a study specifically about that might be conducted.
@lightdud5523 жыл бұрын
@@nihilozero personally I saved it to my watch later as soon as I got the notification so I could watch it later. Probably after he's already done all the changing and stuff.
@nonelost13 жыл бұрын
@@HelloKittyFanMan. "Oh, here's one from this guy that I haven't seen yet!" CLICK "WHAT?!...I've seen this one already!" UNSUB
@MiniCajti3 жыл бұрын
So you know how bad is to name video I DIED IN MINECRAFT and thumbnail minecraft bedrock logo?
@edc15693 жыл бұрын
I feel this is something AI will be terrifyingly good at.
@quarkonium37953 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah, black box problems are the bread an butter of AI software
@edwardmitchell65813 жыл бұрын
Especially if KZbin allowed for A/B testing.
@jacobb56253 жыл бұрын
Type II clickbait, yes I agree. but not Type I clickbait
@anthonyconte95433 жыл бұрын
Or it'll get a little bad data and we get an amazing shitpost algaritham
@Founderschannel1233 жыл бұрын
I guess so probably if they send the AI to mars they would just make their own colony and just become independent on themselves
@rursus83543 жыл бұрын
The most memorable clickbait I remember was: _"this young genius proved 20 nobel prize winners wrong!"_ I have no idea of where the stupid link led, because I didn't click.
@TheGoukaruma3 жыл бұрын
So it didn't work for you.
@dianeridley98043 жыл бұрын
Then it was not bait
@damionlee76583 жыл бұрын
@@dianeridley9804 wrong type of bait for that person, but no doubt very effective bait for a lot of people.
@afriedrich14523 жыл бұрын
The problem with that title is that they forgot to add, "And then the murders began."
@uranium543213 жыл бұрын
The most memorable clickbait I remember was the KZbin video called "the greatest paralympic scandal" or something like that and the thumbnail was literally just the words "They weren't disabled." I clicked on it.
@streetwalkingworld9 ай бұрын
this is really great content, basically a free class on how to get more views on your youtube video without the 'clickbait' of all the other videos by youtubers that try to market the same idea of 'how to get more views'
@doryiii3 жыл бұрын
Tom Scott: "Here's 2 hours of a piece of garlic bread flying to the edge of space."
@SALEENS7GTR53 жыл бұрын
I thought he was going to ask Tom Scott when he mentioned "the king of clickbait" but yeah, Mr. Beast exists lol
@GeneralZimmer3 жыл бұрын
I watched that video xd
@Hugh.Manatee3 жыл бұрын
@@GeneralZimmer Me too, but I skipped most of the middle bit (except for the balloon popping)
@andersbuchjeppesen54933 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure the title is “2 hours of unedited garlic bread flight footage” unless he changed it
@sgnosymfoemos3 жыл бұрын
AND WE ALL WATCHED IT ANYWAY
@FJBauser3 жыл бұрын
I have the perfect clickbait for this video: “A SCIENTIST discovers MARKETING. This is what happened!”
@theflyingnegro50633 жыл бұрын
LMAOOOO this is it
@jezonesjezz71793 жыл бұрын
Or SCIENTIST spent 19 minutes on a ladder here's what happened
@Ilander863 жыл бұрын
To be honest, it would have been nice if scientists had brought in the marketing/PR team on a whole bunch of things before now. Maybe we'd have started the game with "Climate Crisis" and "Global Heating" and have moved the ball further by now.
@zwenkwiel8163 жыл бұрын
A scientist discovers marketing, GONE SEXUAL!
@terenceaaron19993 жыл бұрын
@@Ilander86 Problem is that so many in the marketing world aren't on the same side as these scientists.
@Unclevertitle3 жыл бұрын
"Dupechute" is the funniest word I've heard so far today and while it's still early it has a strong chance of remaining the champion.
@Maelthorn13373 жыл бұрын
It sounds like a really mean insult. I like it.
@jbrownjetmech-47833 жыл бұрын
I think it will have multiple applications, the kids are gonna love it.
@yogi303033 жыл бұрын
Clicktrap is the simplest one. I think it has the most possibility to rise up. But I don't think clickebait is going anywhere sooner.
@nessbrawlaaja3 жыл бұрын
Click bait / click trap are much easier to understand for non-native english speaker and thus have more potential to spread
@maxonmendel57573 жыл бұрын
good morning in America
@eatyourvegetables1449 Жыл бұрын
I love how at 5:40 Derek had to take a second to calm his laughter, you could see him smiling almost laughing when he started talking after he said “dupechute”.