Vermont Title Process Explained! No Title To Clean Title! - Suzuki GS550 EP12

[@BrickHouseBuilds]

Hello everyone, please understand this is my single experience with doing this process so I can not possibly know if you can register an obscure vehicle with no paperwork in a random state. I laid out the process I went through in my hopes to explain what the whole "Vermont title" is. I have linked cartitles.com as well as the Vermont DOR which you should absolutely reference. Understand the process and what you aim to do before starting this. The information is out there but will require some reading so please be ready for a bit of leg work on this.

[@ecmospec1498]

This method still works in 2023! Just got my bike titled in Missouri using this loophole! Super convenient that this video was detailed so well and it’s my home state.

[@caedmonplatt]

How long did it take after they cashed your check? They cashed mine a week ago and nothing yet.

[@ecmospec1498]

@@caedmonplatt I got lucky with mine and I had everything sent back in about 3 weeks, you could also call them and ask what the progression is. I called about 3 weeks after sending it out and the guy said the payment was processed and the plate was already on it's way to me

[@ThePerfectSeason1972]

The bike you got for free lived longer longer than a lot or people and may out live most. Money can always be replaced, a life always can’t. Have fun with your bike for giving it a new life and a meaningful purpose!

[@stevenwarner7348]

It's in the details. Another oh so helpful video. Thank you !

[@luinhaden]

I live in sw Missouri.... I was wondering if Missouri would do this... well not as worried now. Thanks for the video!

[@dyske-]

Thank you for making this video! It was great to hear a first hand example for a motorcycle. Florida stopped accepting registration from non-Vermont residents as of June 2022😭

[@BrickHouseBuilds]

Thats unfortunate! I hope it keeps going for my state

[@MarkGrinevich]

Have a friend or pay someone out of state to get the title in their state and then transfer the title to Florida.

[@Cgerb73]

My son and I just did this process about 2 months ago. Worked flawlessly for us here new york state. I find the biggest problem is getting the seller to agree to have a state trooper come to their house to run a vin to check if it was ever reported stolen. Nothing like buying a bike then running that report afterwards and having it confiscated if found to be stolen.

[@BrickHouseBuilds]

Glad to hear!

[@seanpelletier2637]

you can also just call the state police and check the vin over the phone

[@charles1206]

How long did the entire process take for you,m

[@N1ghtH4wk86]

I live 1block from Vermont, so I'll just drive over to the DMV there and pay in person for registration. NY DMV is way more bureaucratic than VT.

[@raymerrodriguezguillen281]

Hey I have some questions

[@N1ghtH4wk86]

@@raymerrodriguezguillen281 what's up? I drive on my Vermont plates, use Kansas Driver's license and I have New York insurance since I live in upstate New York. You will need a Vermont Inspection Sticker which will be hard to do if you don't live near Vermont.

[@fordman7479]

i got a 1974 i wan't to do this for but it doesn't have a vin because they wasn't standardized until the 80s. it does have an a digit serial number stamped into the frame.

[@BrickHouseBuilds]

Thats your VIN. Its still the identification even though its not the 17 digit numbers we have today.

[@fanepoe9910]

Man you’ve got no clue how much this video helped me with my bike! I’m from mo too so everything was applicable. Thank you.

[@BrickHouseBuilds]

Well hell yea! Im glad it helped. The cartitles videos are good and what I used but felt doing a video of exactly how my process went was useful.

[@ronindriftworks]

Fellow Missouri guy here I'm getting ready to do something similar for a car

[@ronindriftworks]

@@BrickHouseBuilds so you pay 6% of the NADA value do you also pay taxes on the purchase price as well?

[@BrickHouseBuilds]

@@ronindriftworks That is explained on the documentation as well as the cartitles.com website as well as the Vermont DOR.

[@ronindriftworks]

@@BrickHouseBuilds I appreciate the help I just want to make sure I do the taxes right so they don't reject it

[@shade_angel1445]

Just did this, its been sent off but I haven't confirmed everything went smoothly yet. The covid exemption for the vin check is still in effect as of today, 6/5/23, and everything else was pretty dang simple. Here's to hoping I didn't make any mistakes on the form.

[@whorealerpodcast4915]

Did you get it?

[@shade_angel1445]

@whorealerpodcast4915 yes, it took a bit longer but I did get it. The problem right now is indiana bmv doesn't recognize it and are saying it's illegitimate.

[@SirGuidemere91]

Thank you for this. I just pulled an 80 gs450 from the bushes with no paperwork

[@BrickHouseBuilds]

Its a great resource for sure. Please be sure to go by the cartitles.com and Vermont dor info and not just this video though. Those sources stay current and this video is just covering my single experience with the process

[@SirGuidemere91]

@@BrickHouseBuilds understood, thank you.

[@annhofland7232]

Thank you great video 😊 I baught a pull behind travel trailer from a salvage yard that is older but in good condition and they didn’t have a title for it but signed a bill of sale so I went to Arizonia dmv said I need to get a bond for a title which is expensive I did have the local police dept do a vin inspection so that’s a good thing I’ll check into this Vermont registration route looks a lot less expensive and easier😊

[@BrickHouseBuilds]

Glad you found it helpful but just note this is only my single experience with it. Please do your research via the links provided

[@TheyCalledHimTheDude]

interesting video. im from europe and got a job offer in missouri so im moving one day soon and i came by this video by chance i love bikes and building. so your buell video,s let me dicsover your channel. i have a 1998 m2 cyclone myself but it was nice to learn how things work overthere and what the options are. ill have to learn allot about titles laws and stuff cause i have a weakness for project bikes aswell ;) and im gonna buy them in the future for sure and its nice to know how to get the paperwork in order so im actually allowed to ride them. thanks for that. and thanks for your content on youtube. great and entertaining video,s for the gear heads in this world.

[@Croseb2]

I realize this video is over a year old but this is great info. One question that you didn’t fully cover. Did you have your friend who gifted the bike on the bill of sale? I have a similar situation with a bike that was sold from an estate after the owner died and the second owner sold it to me but he never registered the bike in his name. All I have is an expired VT registration from the original owner.

[@BrickHouseBuilds]

They were on the bill of sale yes

[@seanpelletier2637]

If you look at the VT website, they say you need a VIN verification for exempt titles, and you can apply for an exempt title if you're a vermont resident, but it doesn't appear that exempt titles are issued for out of state residents. Have you tried this process without the vin form? I just recently sent in an application without the vin form, so I'll find out sooner or later. I also just got a NY plate (hopefully the title will be coming soon) for a bike I registered in VT 5-6 years ago, I never sent a vin verification on that bike.

[@BrickHouseBuilds]

I showed exactly how I did it this one time. My only experience with it. I continue to suggest going to the Vermont dor website and cartitles.com for thr latest info

[@colinlaw-ks4is]

How did this go for you

[@seanpelletier2637]

@@colinlaw-ks4is because the bike was a '72 not '73 or newer, I received a NYS transferrable registration, not title, but this is just as good according to NYS. hooray!

[@iameveraldwilliams]

Hey. Quick question. How did you determine the sales tax on the bike for when you wrote/submitted the check ? I’m doing this for a car I bought for $1000. I live in NYC the car was bought here as well. Do I use VT sales tax percentage or NYC

[@BrickHouseBuilds]

Its based on the estimated value. As an example I used the mid level estimate from NADA which you include with your docs. Better to pay more here to get it right the first time

[@iameveraldwilliams]

@@BrickHouseBuilds gotcha. One more question, did you calculate the sales tax of the bike using Missouri’s sales tax percentage or did you calculate sales tax using Vermonts sales tax percentage?

[@BrickHouseBuilds]

@@iameveraldwilliams everything Vermont related is just Vermont

[@iameveraldwilliams]

@@BrickHouseBuilds thanks. Just about to submit my application now.

[@UFanFaddictC]

I wanna buy a scooter off a guy that has no title or no bill of sale ami still able to buy it with no bill of sale an get this service done to get it on my end ?

[@BrickHouseBuilds]

You will have to read over the information linked on cartitles.com as well as the Vermont DOR, and your states accepted forms of ownership. I can only speak to my specific experience with this bike. I did a lot of reading on what my state accepted, required docs, and more

[@sixtosanta9862]

Javier …I live in Florida and have the same situation with a title less scooter from new hampsire ,did you use the Vermont method ? Did it work ?

[@leeflanagan3740]

Awesome, from non runner to daily rider for $1000 👏

[@patgarrett6350]

You mentioned KBB value, I purchased a scooter thats not listed on Nada or KBB. How should I proceed? Thanks

[@BrickHouseBuilds]

Hmm, I'm honestly not sure Pat. I would contact the cartitles.com guy I have linked as he does this for a living. This is the only time Ive ever tried it so my experience is very limited.

[@patgarrett6350]

@@BrickHouseBuilds thanks will do

[@andykeller4432]

Yo, I’ve been skeptical of this for a bit, wondering if it’ll work in my situation. I bought an 80 gs450 from a buddy of mine, had a title but it wasn’t in my buddy’s name, but signed, then lost it (my own dumb fault). Have tried numerous times to reach out to the prev. owner and haven’t gotten any response. So it’s still titled in WI currently, am I SOL if I try to bring the VT reg back to WI?

[@BrickHouseBuilds]

That would be a question for maybe cartitles.com or even just contact your local DMV to see what they say. Sometimes there may be a simpler option.

[@charles1206]

Vermont loophole is closed for non residents as of July 1st, maybe take a look into bonded title method if your state offers that.

[@BrickHouseBuilds]

@@charles1206 have a link to that info?

[@stylegaming-x4v]

you explained this alot better then anyone else i found. I also live in missouri. Im going to try this. also issue is i know the vehicle isnt stolen but i never got a bill of sale

[@BrickHouseBuilds]

Thank you. Don't take it as a guide though. Use the provided links for accurate info as it changes

[@thedaydreamer7972]

HI, good video ,,,couple questions, when they send you the registration and the vermont tags to your state is the bike legally able to be ridden with those tags on it? Also, will this work for a bike where the title is "lost" maybe somehwere there is a title floating around but the seller did not have it, can you still use this method? TY again.

[@BrickHouseBuilds]

You can ride the bike but don't consider it a permanent thing as you aren't a resident of Vermont. For the lost title if you have contact with the previous owner I'd try to have them apply for a lost title to then sign over to you. That would be much easier. If you don't know who had the title last, purchase a records search from the state you think it was last registered in and go from there.

[@treymallette1696]

I’m reading on vermont dmv that they require a form from your home state saying and signed by dmv that you don’t need to register it in your own state. Tryin to register 2021 ninja 400 with title mistake. Can i drive to vermont and do this?

[@BrickHouseBuilds]

First off this process is for bikes older than 15 years which I explain.

[@whorealerpodcast4915]

How did you ever make out?

[@rogerlillo353]

Hello. I have a new street legal dirtbike. I have the Cert of Origin. On the Vermont application what do I check to get a title and to get registration and tags? I need both the title and registartion and tags. Thanks.

[@BrickHouseBuilds]

Please read up on the Vermont website for the registration wizard. Also reference the cartitles.com website I linked. All the latest info is out there with clear instructions.

[@cuboidalmilk746]

Great video! i’m in the process of doing this myself, i have a bill of sale but it’s not the official vermont document bill of sale, should it still work if i send this one in?

[@BrickHouseBuilds]

I don't think it would be a problem but always reference the vermont document wizzard or the cartitles.com as they would know exactly

[@Mojokiss]

Just found out about this today. I am so freaking into this!!!

[@BrickHouseBuilds]

Just be sure to do your research using the provided links. Do not use this video as a guide but rather me documenting my exact experience

[@Daddicus_McYeet]

my issue is figuring out how to run the vin to see if the bike im wanting to get is stolen, i cant find anywhere to run an 8 digit vin

[@BrickHouseBuilds]

I think many do it. That or contact law enforcement

[@d9j3c]

I also live in MO, wanting to do this for a Yamaha tw200 I picked up from a farmer with no title. My only question is on the bill of sale, did you just write up a generic one from both people and not print the one on Vermont site?

[@BrickHouseBuilds]

Hey Dan, go to the Vermont DOR website and do their doc wizzard. It tells you exactly what you need to do

[@d9j3c]

@@BrickHouseBuilds i did that. Just wasn't sure on what type of bill of sale is needed. Thanks!

[@BrickHouseBuilds]

Just print off a MO1957 and be sure the information is the same for the Vermont registration request

[@shanemichaelneal]

Does it give you a real title or a bonded title?

[@LuKeWaRmLuKe97]

In the hypothetical scenario where you were unable to obtain a signature on your bill of sale at purchase, is a signature required on the reg form or the bill of sale form?

[@BrickHouseBuilds]

Well obviously you need the seller signature on a bill of sale. From there the process to apply for the Vermont registration didn't require the previous owners signature. Fun fact, BOS didn't have to be notarized so I could hypothetically recommend you have another person sign in their place...

[@LuKeWaRmLuKe97]

Thanks a million!

[@JGR1993]

I bought a motorcycle from a guy who never registered it when he bought from previous owner. The title is the previous owners name but signed to him then he signed to me. Will this work for me? He did provide a bill of sale and looking up vin history it is clean and not stolen.

[@BrickHouseBuilds]

That I do not know. You could contact the cartitles.com place as he would have more info

[@spencerleg]

I'm in the same situation I'm gonna try it myself , I have already registered my other motorcycle through Vermont

[@treymallette1696]

@@spencerlegdid it work? will it work on a 2021?

[@mikebaird1110]

looking to buy a zx1100 ninja . needs minimal work , 12 k on it .

[@Smothersmallshop]

What if the title is current in Missouri but not in your possession? Can I still register in Vermont?

[@BrickHouseBuilds]

Please reference the links in the description for info. I've only had my single experience with the process.

[@TokeUp24]

I have a 2021 125cc Grom clone with no title but bill of sale.. Is it Possible to get this on the road & registered in VT?

[@BrickHouseBuilds]

No. Check all the provided links as the first rule is 15 years or older on this.

[@vanology3606]

Has anyone not insured there bike while doing this process and succeeded? Will this get me rejected? I mailed my documents the other day and need to know if I should go out and get insurance on it before they receive my docs in the mail and review it.

[@BrickHouseBuilds]

It has been a minute since I went through the process but I do not feel like I had insurance on the bike unless I stated so in the video. Within the various application documents they should state if they require insurance but I doubt it.

[@patgarrett6350]

@vanology were you successful in getting a registration without insurance?

[@vanology3606]

@@patgarrett6350 well I'm not sure, mailed it about two and a half weeks ago and haven't received anything in the mail yet. Shouldn't be too much longer and I can tell you. Only reason I thought about needing to put insurance on it early is to prove to the DMV that it is road ready.

[@patgarrett6350]

@@vanology3606 okay, yes please keep me informed because I'm about to do the same thing in upcoming weeks.

[@vanology3606]

@@patgarrett6350 Well I have not received my tag in the mail, but with my documents I sent, I used a money order to pay. A few minutes ago I called western union to track my money order to confirm if they accepted my documents and would register my bike without insurance. It said that my money order was cashed so that let's me know you can do this and not have to insure your bike!

[@markturnbough]

Awesome video. I've been curious about this process. Super helpful. Congrats on getting the bike fully on the road! Looks like a ton of fun.

[@BrickHouseBuilds]

Thanks Mark!

[@MrSpeedemon7777]

@@BrickHouseBuilds showing the previous owner the bike running would make a great video! I know I'd love to see it...

[@Micscience]

Thanks for sharing. You did a good job explaining the process you went through. Take care

[@BrickHouseBuilds]

Thank you! Glad you found it helpful

[@nasty2ndgenneon]

I bought a bike from someone that had lost the title from the original owner and they didn’t remember the sellers name if I get a bill of sale write in the persons name I bought it from would that suffice? Vin and everything is clean

[@BrickHouseBuilds]

As long as it meets the basic requirements yes. Look at the doc wizzard on the Vermont DOR website and the cartitles.com website to see current requirements

[@gregcassity3795]

I talked to the Missouri State Highway Patrol today and they told me that I need a title not a bill of sale before they can do any Vin verification for me. I know the VIN verification was waived in your case but how do other missourians do this?

[@BrickHouseBuilds]

All they are doing with a vin verification is confirming its not stolen or so I thought. I've had a vin verification or form 551 done with no title I believe. Something doesn't seem right there but I am no expert on this by any means

[@gregcassity3795]

@@BrickHouseBuilds well I see they are still waving the VIN verification so I got lucky like you did

[@viprz5444]

@@gregcassity3795 and they still are! lmfao because I just got my plates back for a nice clean 4th gen 4runner that isnt beat the shit out of it came from a salvage yard so it was salvaged but they didnt give a shit lol. Would you happen to know if I go to the dmv will that exchange that info and make me a salvage title? or will they basically tell me to piss off.

[@operatingengineer]

Thanks for doing this video! I bought a basket case mustang from a guy who never got a title and we have no idea who it was last registered to , so what your saying is it doesn’t have to be a bill of sale from the last registered owner?

[@BrickHouseBuilds]

Id create a bill of sale from who you purchased it from as added security. Otherwise refer to the websites I linked that have the actual info. I only have my single experience

[@getmoney4937]

So it’s just ok to have Vermont tags but have car insurance from another state???? Honest question

[@BrickHouseBuilds]

To get specific to my situation I had the bike insured via a Vermont branch of my insurance company. Once I registered it in Missouri and my Missouri tags showed up I transferred that insurance to Missouri.

[@colomex63]

yes you can have vermont plates and insurance from another state. i have 4 cars registered and 2 bikes as well and i live in ny. vermont dmv does not ask for insurance. they give you plates and registration at the dmv or by mail. it is your responsibilty to tet your own insurance. it does not matter from what state. vermont does not care as long as you have insurance

[@TheReal-Sloaner]

@@colomex63 how do I get a vermont inspection on a bike in NY tho?

[@brewsterglascock6523]

How did you figure out that you didn't need to get a vin verification? Do you know if this is still waived at the moment?

[@BrickHouseBuilds]

In one of the videos I linked from cartitles.com he mentioned it. I wanted to confirm so I went on the main Vermont DMV website and read up on covid changes. Just had to do some digging but all the info is out there.

[@keithveath]

@@BrickHouseBuilds if you had to get an ID/OD for Vermont would the MO one work? Great video BTW!!

[@BrickHouseBuilds]

@@keithveath from my knowledge a regular Missouri inspection works as an ID/OD

[@COOTER383]

Missouri always ask for a bill of sale,Vermont kept mine.They do not ask for that with this registration?

[@BrickHouseBuilds]

I talked about a bill of sale in this video I believe

[@COOTER383]

@@BrickHouseBuilds I meant When the Missouri DVM ask for a bill of sale.Went there today and sure enough after explaining all this she ask for a bill of sale and I explained to her the state of Vermont kept the bill of sale and I paid sales tax to Vermont already . I had the Vermont title Bulletin with me and she made 3 trips to the back room,so finally after some damn near hair pulling it worked out and I walked out her some tags and title registration.like you said wrong person probably a no go.This was on a Honda cb550fp JDM Police Bike I had shipped from Japan .what a relief as I have a lot of money in this bike

[@joshuajewell1785]

I tried this recently for my 96 honda xr650l and while I did get the antique plate, they sent me a full sized one rather than a motorcycle sized plate...Any idea what happened? Or is that just the plate size that you get when you do this process?

[@BrickHouseBuilds]

Did you request an antique plate? You specify in the registration that it is a motorcycle

[@joshuajewell1785]

@@BrickHouseBuilds Yes, everything I'd been able to find said request an antique plate, however I specified that it was a 650cc cycle/atv elsewhere in the document.

[@BrickHouseBuilds]

@@joshuajewell1785 thats strange. I never did anything related to antique plates

[@ManiacGaming-zr1dw]

So could I get a Missouri idod inspection and send it to em?

[@BrickHouseBuilds]

Not sure what you mean. Not enough detail in that statement

[@thecustomevobagger8083]

I got a 93 Dakota that has a lien I know the original owner that bought the truck new Eddie paid the truck off in early 2000s they never sent him a release of lien went to all this court stuff Never got the title would I be able to get a title through Vermont with the current issue

[@BrickHouseBuilds]

You will need to do your research on that. Check the car titles website and your state dor on that.

[@colworth]

hi i live in Missouri... What DMV did you go to?

[@BrickHouseBuilds]

This was my local one in st Charles County

[@ProjectRescues]

Did you have to get insurance on it prior to transferring the registration to your state? I was told I should do the registration and title at the same time.

[@BrickHouseBuilds]

You don't need insurance to do a title transfer. You just need insurance and inspection to then get registration for the road. You could do both to save time but none of this has anything to do with the Vermont registration side of things which you need before anything else

[@ProjectRescues]

@@BrickHouseBuilds Yeah, I was told 2 different things. I was told they might not transfer it to my state if I didn't have both done at the same time. I was kinda worried my states DMV wouldn't give me my state title for the Vermont registration.

[@BrickHouseBuilds]

Well my video is just going over my single experience with Missouri. Research for your state and refer to the links provided. Registration for the road and title transfer are two different things. Vermont registration is them providing a document showing you own the vehicle. You use that to do a title transfer. Putting it on the road in your state likely requires different documents

[@DanielHill-be5dc]

Awesome Video. I was wondering if you think it would work in my scenario? I just bought a 2018 Kawasaki KX100 & I'm looking to buy a converter kit to make it street legal. I did a vin search and the bike is clean & I have is a bill of sale. I've been making calls to the DMV checking every site possible and I can't get anywhere. I was told this bike never had a title even when it was brand new because it's a race bike. I know I've seen 2 stroke street legal dirtbikes plenty of times, so i'm at a loss....any suggestions?

[@BrickHouseBuilds]

Hey Daniel as stated this is for vehicles 15 years and older. Since your bike was not destined for the road it may not have a title. You may want to call your local highway patrol and talk with them about possibilities. This Vermont registration is not for your situation though

[@rubiselguillenesparza3788]

Hi! I'm from Mexico, and y have an old CB 77' without title, could be this process an option for me? Thank you so much!

[@BrickHouseBuilds]

That I do not know. Being in a different country I have no clue what you are required to have. That will be up to you to do the research on

[@rubiselguillenesparza3788]

@@BrickHouseBuilds thank you so much!!!

[@Wazzie_fitness]

Hello, great video could you please help me I just bought a 50cc moped off of Facebook and do not have title what do I do?

[@BrickHouseBuilds]

Check out the cartitles.com website I linked. Each state is different as well so you will have to do your research on what path to go here.

[@ecmospec1498]

so do you put your information on the change of ownership before taking it to the dmv for transfer?

[@BrickHouseBuilds]

I take the documents from Vermont showing I own the vehicle to my local DMV and that allows me to transfer to a state title

[@ecmospec1498]

@@BrickHouseBuilds Yes but I wasn't sure if you were supposed fill out the blanks under the Change of Ownership to do so, I just got the change of ownership document and put the sticker on my plate, as well as removed the registration certificate. but I still have the whole document

[@BrickHouseBuilds]

@@ecmospec1498 I guess I'm confused on what you are doing. Once I received the Vermont vehicle registration I simply took it to the dmv as is and applied for a new registration in state. Same owner so no need to change anything there

[@ecmospec1498]

@@BrickHouseBuilds on the change of ownership side there are blanks where you put information like transfer date, new owner, selling price, address, and signature. wasn't sure if I'm supposed to write on that to transfer to MO. also when I do eventually transfer, Will I need to return the license plate to Vermont?

[@mitazakee]

Who do you write the check out to? Vermont DMV?

[@BrickHouseBuilds]

That is explained on the Vermont paperwork. Please reference that and not just this video

[@Tnw_18]

Does this bypass any registration fees? Fromm old registration

[@BrickHouseBuilds]

That I do not know

[@matthewsullivan31]

My bike was last registered in 2014 in another state, is this applicable

[@BrickHouseBuilds]

I cant answer that. This process is for bikes 15 years or older where you can't obtain a title via previous owner. Check out the links provided for the info you need

[@boutinpaul]

Thumbs up for this video BJ! Great info for me especially.

[@GradysGeckos]

Does the bill of sale you send in have to be the Vermont bill of sale or can it be a different bill of sale that u printed out and took when going to get the bike? The guy lives 4 and a half hours away and I really don’t wanna have to go back or figure out a way to get him to fill out another bill of sale

[@BrickHouseBuilds]

The original title app is for Vermont and my bill of sale was for Missouri. As straight forward as it gets.

[@GradysGeckos]

@@BrickHouseBuilds alright sounds good they shouldn’t make a big deal about it tho it was confusing for me due to me living in Illinois but buying/trading in Missouri so I didn’t know which to being so I printed out a regular bill of sale not like a Illinois specific or Missouri specific bill of sale I’m sure it will still work the same

[@BrickHouseBuilds]

@@GradysGeckos yea should work fine as I don't think it had to be state specific but you can confirm that via one of the information sources I linked In sure

[@GradysGeckos]

@@BrickHouseBuilds I did confirm that the documents that I have are right for the application I just have one more question if you could try your best to answer or point me in the right direction. The bike in question is a Chinese grom clone so how do I go about getting the values for it I can’t find any anywhere on the sites mentioned. Also if I just go off of the purchase price would they accept that? Even tho I traded I put 1000 for purchase price a decent one goes for around 1200-1500 on marketplace

[@RCP212]

Brick House Builds did the bill of sale need to be notarized?

[@Singleturbo-sk9qp]

So I bought a car for 2000$ and it never had a title however I tried doing the title process through the tag office and they said I needed to get something released

[@BrickHouseBuilds]

Likely a lein release or something. That's information you need to pay attention to when you buy something

[@Singleturbo-sk9qp]

@@BrickHouseBuilds i have two cars so its not bad however I'm not paying 3k on a release because o didn't pawn the title like a dumb ass the owner did however I didn't know the title had a lien on it even though I checked the vin before hand

[@Mojokiss]

update! my brother... my personal check i sent them got deposited/cashed by vermont dmv a few days ago. i'm checkin the mail 3 times a day here now. my bike - 81 cb750 cafe brat.

[@BrickHouseBuilds]

Thats a good sign!

[@jimmy_dirtbike]

Did you send in a VIN inspection report? I forgot to send mine in... Dammit...

[@Mojokiss]

@@jimmy_dirtbike yes I did. let me know what happens with yours. I sent mine certified. They got to it right away. It was faster than most people said. I've since sold that bike but had fun with it and still have the vermont tag

[@jimmy_dirtbike]

@@Mojokiss Shit, I should have done that too. Problem is getting a vin inspection in my area is a major hassle in and of itself. You have to make an appointment with state patrol and they're weeks out... I might hope the border and get it inspected in my neighboring state since I own property there. Wish I would have just done this right from the start. Apparently they didnt require VIN inspections during covid!

[@Mojokiss]

@@jimmy_dirtbike yeah so Im not sure if they are requiring it again yet

[@rajeshsidharthan]

Thank you. This is a great video. Before watching this, I started the process with a company called Car Titles. They are asking me to do a VIN verification, in addition to the documents you mentioned. Did you have to do a VIN verification?

[@BrickHouseBuilds]

I talk about that in the video. I also referenced car titles a few times actually

[@rajeshsidharthan]

@@BrickHouseBuilds Thank you very much.

[@damianfro4855]

They didnt want to help me at the dmv. The car has vermont registration, but didnt want to since it was already registered in my state

[@BrickHouseBuilds]

Did you confirm your state accepts Vermont registration? Did you talk with an agent familiar with the process?

[@damianfro4855]

@@BrickHouseBuilds no I have not, ive seen another person with the same problem as me,and he got the title. Im lost on what to do

[@BrickHouseBuilds]

@@damianfro4855 you need to find out if its accepted as a form of ownership for your vehicle in your state. Then make sure you have all supporting docs. Also just be kind at the dmv and try to get the most knowledgeable one there to assist you. Also check the provided links of cartitles.com and the Vermont dor for the document wizard for a list of what you need. Do not base all your research off just my video as it varies everywhere and changes with time

[@bryco32]

Sweet video and a Missouri boy to huh!? Did I miss it or did you say if you needed a vin verification for Vermont? If you did.. Did you just get a Missouri safety inspection and send that in or did you go to a police dept to get the vin verification like Vermont wants?

[@bryco32]

I see that because of covid they didn't need the ID Od on their end. I wonder what they will accept now for it.

[@BrickHouseBuilds]

Check out the doc wizard on the Vermont dor website along with cartitles.com. All info is there and up to date. I talked about the vin verification in this but again it changes

[@Evansweat]

sick dude. Thanks a million

[@impropernovice2149]

🔥🔥

[@impropernovice2149]

I live in Virginia & they don’t let anyone by easy, I’m buying a civic with a bill of sale so I need to go this route as well

[@BrickHouseBuilds]

Look at your states laws to confirm this is a possible process. Its not for all 50 states

[@impropernovice2149]

@@BrickHouseBuilds I know it may not in VA (depending on if DMV worker wants to be helpful), but I’ve got other states as backup options 🤝

[@impropernovice2149]

@@BrickHouseBuilds appreciate your video champ🤝

[@Drippyxclutch1]

@@impropernovice2149 so how did your process go?

[@impropernovice2149]

@@Drippyxclutch1 the seller of the Honda just ghosted me & didn’t want to sell the car anymore, super weird

[@calz33]

did you have to insure the bike before doing this?

[@BrickHouseBuilds]

I believe so yes. The way Vermont needs to see it is being a road going bike

[@06PYTHON]

Who did you make the check out to.

[@BrickHouseBuilds]

All of that information is in the links provided. You will need to visit the Vermont DOR website and follow the instructions

[@justinharris1299]

does the bill of have to be notarized?

[@BrickHouseBuilds]

No. Check out the linked cartitles.com and Vermont dor. They have all the information you need on the process should you wish to proceed

[@briancundiff3384]

i don’t think anyone’s made a video quite this clear on this

[@BrickHouseBuilds]

Thats why I made it! Most videos give just pieces of info but not the whole thing

[@DG-ig4wj]

All he’s videos are as clear as this

[@BrickHouseBuilds]

@@DG-ig4wj thanks man!

[@TABTheAdventureBound]

You didnt need a signed or notarized bill of sale for the bike?

[@BrickHouseBuilds]

Yes I had a bill of sale but it didn't need to be notarized

[@DJ_CAZZARELLI]

Can this method be used for a homemade minibike?

[@BrickHouseBuilds]

This is for vehicles that are already street legal and a previous title is proving impossible to obtain

[@mikebaird1110]

thanks for the input . it put my mind at ease

[@BrickHouseBuilds]

Its definitely something you want to research for your own state and situation but this was my experience with the process and what I learned

[@mikemurphyseemsliked]

Thanks Mark Wahlberg! Loved you in Ted!

[@BrickHouseBuilds]

🤣🤣🤣🤣 that made my day

[@717Enduro]

Sooo anyone know what I can do if my bike is a 2012? 10 years old? Can I still throw my info and money at the VT DMV and they’ll send me a plate?

[@BrickHouseBuilds]

One of the first lines in the rules for this is 15 years or older. Check out the links provided please

[@falconwildchild]

ANOTHER HAPPY ENDING. GOOD SHOW.

[@BrickHouseBuilds]

Much better than my Bandit fiasco!

[@dirtroadkennelsvlogs6985]

I live in mo How can I get a vin verification ? Just in case

[@BrickHouseBuilds]

Look at the Missouri DOR website and check out vin verifications. They list options there

[@Jimmyjet92]

Was this bike previously registered in your state? From how I understand it, they won’t give you a new title if it has a current title in the same state.

[@BrickHouseBuilds]

This bike was not registered in my state. Are you saying Vermont won't issue registration/ownership or your current state in which you are trying to obtain a title via Vermont registration/ownership?

[@Jimmyjet92]

@@BrickHouseBuilds Not quite. From what I read, if I bought the bike in Arizona where it was previously registered by the original owner, got it registered in Vermont, and then tried to get the title in Arizona, they would not produce another title since the bike is already registered under the previous owner.

[@BrickHouseBuilds]

@@Jimmyjet92 if thats the case and you can't go Vermont you should look into a bonded title. Im assuming you can't contact the last legal owner.

[@Jimmyjet92]

@@BrickHouseBuilds yeah unfortunately that’s what I have to do. It’s a long story but I bought the bike from a “shop” that was given the bike to fix and the titled owner didn’t want to pay for the repairs. I was told the owner would work on getting the title for me. I got his phone number, gave him a call and he had no interest in helping me at all. Kept using the “I’m really busy” card. So a bonded title it is.

[@BrickHouseBuilds]

@@Jimmyjet92 oh thats sketch as with a bonded title the past owner gets notified and is able to claim the bike is his. Watch my Bandit 1200 saga

[@yamahale]

How did you navigate the bill of sale?

[@BrickHouseBuilds]

I thought I covered that in the video?

[@yamahale]

@@BrickHouseBuilds I guess you just shuffled the paper and I missed it. Did they send a blank one or do you just make one up?

[@BrickHouseBuilds]

@@yamahale You need a bill of sale. Check out the doc wizard on the Vermont dor website and it tells you all you need to do. That and the cartitles.com website. Both full of info. It changes so I don't want to give bad advice

[@antonmora8440]

do you guys think this will work with a 2013 ninja 300??

[@BrickHouseBuilds]

Hey Anton, I believe i've mentioned the vehicle has to be 15 years and older. The websites linked have that information.

[@antonmora8440]

@@BrickHouseBuilds ok thank you man

[@DirtLegal]

We can title a 2013 Ninja 300 for you here: www.dirtlegal.com/vehicle-services/motorcycle-titling-service

[@squidtrader7973]

15 years or newer have to have a title, older than 15 years don’t require a title.

[@claywbaker]

Did you use your Missouri address for the application?

[@BrickHouseBuilds]

Yes I did

[@essentialjudge2279]

MO law is strange. Model Ts and As don't have vin's or odometers and throws a wrench in the spokes.

[@BrickHouseBuilds]

I mean dealing with something of that era is more difficult in every aspect as there was no common "rule" manufacturers followed. They definitely weren't expecting their cars to be on the road over 100 years later!

[@essentialjudge2279]

@@BrickHouseBuilds I figured I'd just drive around till I got pulled over and when he asked me where the registration is I'll say this isn't a motor vehicle it doesn't have a VIN. Lol.

[@BrickHouseBuilds]

@@essentialjudge2279 That would definitely complicate things lol. Id bet the officer was understanding though

[@4renzicfiles92]

Does this work in SC?

[@BrickHouseBuilds]

You will have to do that research on your own. Refer to your states DOR and the Vermont DOR websites. The linked cartitles.com website and subsequent videos are also a great resource for into. I can only speak to my single experience with this bike.

[@o113attitude]

Any idea if a guy could use this process for a MO special construction bike to avoid the difficulties in titling one you built yourself in MO?

[@BrickHouseBuilds]

That I don't know as you need a vin as well as an inspiration for the vehicle.

[@o113attitude]

@@BrickHouseBuildsi understand. I have mso's for the main parts and am wondering if I could just use the frame number for the vin like a Japanese bike has. It will pass the state inspection no problem. The inspection im tryin to avoid is the highway patrol inspection cause they tend to be dicks in MO and wanna make up rules as they go. Just thought your way might be easier, even if it cost me a bit more. Ive done it the hard way and was lookin for a faster easier way. Thanks for the vid! It was very informative! I appreciate it!

[@alexdiaz1512]

Got a link to the form needed

[@BrickHouseBuilds]

All in the description

[@alexdiaz1512]

only link is to cartitles not dmv section

[@BrickHouseBuilds]

@@alexdiaz1512 Well dang I thought I had the Vermont page there. I'll have to update it later but just search Vermont DOR and its very easy to navigate from there

[@alexdiaz1512]

@@BrickHouseBuilds thanks brother much appreciated

[@Mojokiss]

Little update FLORIDA no longer honors this method. In other words, at least for now, you can't register a vermont title in FL if your vermont registration doesn't meet conventional standards. in other words if you live in FL you'll have to go another route which there are almost not other options because a bonded title only works for newer vehicles etc.

[@BrickHouseBuilds]

Thanks for the heads up for others

[@Mojokiss]

@@BrickHouseBuilds exactly. your community is a good hub of info and encouragement

[@richardalpert3300]

So um ... you say VT wont issue TITLES for anything older than 15 yrs ,what about younger than 15 yrs ? Is there a displacement limit on motorcycles ?Did you have to have insurance proof when you applied ?

[@BrickHouseBuilds]

I recommend checking out the Vermont DOR website to see what they state as a requirement. Then look at what forms of vehicle ownership your state accepts. Then possibly look at the cartitles.com link I have as he provides a ton of information. I can only speak to me single experience with this bike which I wanted to share. I can't possibly know every scenario for every state.

[@shanemichaelneal]

Will this give you a real title or a bonded title?

[@BrickHouseBuilds]

A bonded title is completely different. This is a proof of ownership that you obtain via Vermont. You then transfer that to get a clean clear title in your state. Thats assuming your state accepts this form of ownership documentation

[@shanemichaelneal]

@@BrickHouseBuilds im not sure, i live in louisiana and i bought a bike from texas, all it came with was a bonded title and omfg the biggest headache iv ever had

[@BrickHouseBuilds]

@@shanemichaelneal well look at the cartitles.com I linked and contact them to see what direction you should go

[@run4guns871]

3:45 - you're welcome

[@BrickHouseBuilds]

Please disregard the above comment. Up to that point I explain the situation of the bike and lack of title which you can base your assessment on for whether you need to try this process or not. Zero of the video is off-topic or irrelevant.

[@Manandmachine772]

Thanks BJ for posting this video about this problem for some of us. I definitely have a few to do.

[@BrickHouseBuilds]

Im happy its been a good source of info. Just be sure to check your states laws to make sure its a viable option

[@Manandmachine772]

@@BrickHouseBuilds good suggestion will do

[@fzj8022]

Vermont REQUIRES NADA clean dealer trade in value, if you try anything else they will not accept it. Then they do tax on that value or your bill of sale price, whichever is GREATER.

[@BrickHouseBuilds]

Its kbb or nada whichever is highest. They use that to determine tax. You want your bill of sale figure to be within a reasonable distance from that higher value figure so it doesn't seem like you are trying to scam them.

[@fzj8022]

@@BrickHouseBuilds no it's nada clean trade in only. I live in Vermont, it's all they will accept

[@BrickHouseBuilds]

@@fzj8022 Not trying to argue thats just whats stated on the forms

[@fzj8022]

@@BrickHouseBuilds check the Vermont DMV, they only accept nada clean dealer trade in. Not kbb

[@fzj8022]

@@BrickHouseBuilds dmv.vermont.gov/tax-title/vehicle-taxation

[@christopherhaynes8101]

Only got 11 mins in slightly too much fluff

[@BrickHouseBuilds]

This isn't tiktok

[@judsonhibbs5760]

"Cross your t's and dot your lowercase j's"... Wait what!?! Lol.

[@BrickHouseBuilds]

It makes me so happy when people catch that one. A very obscure Wayne's World 2 reference 😉

[@aaronclark1599]

You don't need registration or a title to travel

[@BrickHouseBuilds]

That excuse may work a couple times but eventually it catches up. Then if you go to sell something you have lost a lot of the bikes value as well.

[@josephhawkins3315]

Too much jibberish need to make a video as 1,2,3 not one then keep going back and fourth. Very hard to actually understand what your saying

[@BrickHouseBuilds]

Noted but I laid all of this out very clearly and many have found it extremely helpful. I have provided extra resources for information as well to help answer any questions you have in understanding the terms used. All info within one on-topic video is what people prefer instead of having to watch 3 different ones. Have a good one Joe

[@VToutdoors81]

Vermont will not issue a Title to a Non-resident. This will only work if your state accepts an out of state registration as ownership. Many states do not. For example, GA, NC, and VA do not acknowledge a registration as proof of ownership, must be titled.

[@BrickHouseBuilds]

Im a non resident and got the registration as the video shows. You are correct in saying some states don't accept this the same way but I also stated that.

[@VToutdoors81]

Then the title of your video is misleading.

[@BrickHouseBuilds]

@@VToutdoors81 What do you wish for me to change it to? A few notes, nearly every video or site on the matter uses Vermont title and Vermont registration as one in the same. As I stated in the video Vermont doesn't issue a physical title for vehicles over 15 years old so the registration acts as the ownership document AKA title. On the back of the registration it has an area to fill out for transfer of ownership. I explain all of these things. My title is clear and easy to search for those seeking information on the matter.

[@VToutdoors81]

@@BrickHouseBuilds You can do whatever you want, but youre video perpetuates the misinformed thought that Vermont issues titles to people trying to title an old bike. Vermont can and will issue titles to vehicles 15 years and older, you just have to fill out the correct forms and be a resident. I lived there for 9 years and got a title for my old bike before I moved.

[@BrickHouseBuilds]

@@VToutdoors81 Man the process sure worked well by the book for me who obviously has no clue whats going on lol. I apologize for simply making an in-depth video explaining what it means with the whole title versus registration thing and how you can use it to your advantage. Take care sir