How New York City Plans To Expand Itself

How New York City Plans To Expand Itself

[@justlisten82]

"Once you go Dutch, water ain't much"

[@Booz2020]

Wilhemus Van Nassaouw 😎

[@r.d.9399]

Water always goes somewhere else.

[@ErectkyleDysfunction]

​@@r.d.9399 yea but when the oosterscheldekering says no, the north sea has to take a hike.

[@ArmaanMehta]

It’s always too much

[@kyledale3280]

The Dutch are the best in the world when it comes to land reclamation

[@Odm1776]

So it’s rich people ruining NYC housing

[@ralphmacias4703]

it's always been

[@trvst5938]

Just like in London, a lot of the highest $ housing is just money laundering for the oligarchs. 🫴

[@Goldenback318]

@@trvst5938they’re already paying for it. Muslims, Indians, etc are taking over London 😹

[@mharley3791]

Nah it’s mostly zoning

[@MrMountainchris]

Just like they're ruining everything else on the planet.

[@saldetii]

It sounds insane, maybe won’t ever be done, but I do think it would be a good option. It defends against the water rising issue, gives new land for businesses, housing and parks, and extends the subway.

[@the0ne809]

it will not be done. there is no a serious proposal and no politician is pushing for this. it is just some random dude who came up with this. It took 10 years to build 4 new subway stations. This is less likely to be built than the stupid Line being built in Saudi Arabia.

[@ethangray7083]

@@the0ne809 You're missing a few key details. 1 This is very possible it has been done in Dubai and other places with great success. 2 A random dude made a video about this idea people have been talking about it since the 1800s it was just never feasible. 3. you can never compare this to public transit because they don't benefit the same people. The wealthy powerful people that would benefit from added real estate neither ride public transit or profit from it so the only time they need to care is when the public gets mad enough they make a fuss about it.

[@c.e.7737]

@@ethangray7083 What on God's green earth are you babbling about dude. People need to commute to work. The city would never seriously consider adding such an obnoxiously stupid extension to Lower Manhattan without considering how it connects with the existing transit system (the Subway, bus system, PATH, etc.) No real estate will ever be worth shit if you cannot commute to work from it, or in the case of it being zoned for offices if you cannot commute there. To deny this is extraordinarily illogical. Unless it's literally Billionaire's Row style supertower penthouses on every floor for 40 million a pop that we all know no one is buying because of half of those buildings are empty and the ones that have been bought are just used by investments in the New York City luxury housing bubble...

[@independenceradio]

​@@c.e.7737agreed. The other thing worth noting is where the hell is the money going to come from to fund it? NYC is already extremely in debt. I guess more debt

[@c.e.7737]

@@independenceradio prepare for your local bodega owner to get taxed 80% while the dipshits at the top of the FiDi officebuildings avoid taxes by buying ugly ass paintings for millions and then donating them to art galleries for a tax write off

[@juliangang2018]

I like in New Orleans. New Yorkers need to realize how lucky they are to get this much investing and thought put into saving the city instead of protesting every little thing. I would be fine with loud noise if it meant out city didn't get plunged underwater every hurricane.

[@user-ml2bn7xx7e]

😂😂😂 investment into what

[@TsarNick1995]

​@damien7157 Okay... How is that relevant?

[@Fatashin]

just use galvanized steel

[@bonicheque6127]

and eco-friendly wood veneer

[@gavishsingh2941]

They arnt as smart as David to do that

[@littleantukins4415]

And screws I borrowed form my aunt

[@SparklingGlow]

little john spent his life savings to become mayor of new york city, but is shocked to find that it is only 220 million square meter

[@dash777x]

Brainrot

[@kendahl7922]

Just move to Newark and save $555 TRILLION 👍👍👍

[@dantetre]

So the ending of The Batman movie was not fiction, it was a prediction!

[@michaelschneider-]

No job to BIG or SMALL.... Remember going to the New York World's Fair in 1964 & '65... 643 acres were transformed.. A family of 9 in a Dodge station wagon from the sticks in the northern N. J. suburbs. .. Fond memories. ..

[@baddestjoanna-michellesmit5578]

Great infor❤ thank for sharing my ladddddd ......yall just be making fun if us , but its all love yall been thru loadssss

[@kilosierraalpha]

Imagine believing that NY would have hundreds of billions of dollars to spend on a project this massive. Imagine thinking that some US project this big could be completed in 6 years. If you believe any of this, I have a bridge over Hudson to sell you for cheap.

[@guywithinterwebs]

The city has a larger and wealtheir tax bases than many nations that regularly complete projects like this only larger within that time frame. When did we stop believing we can do things?

[@evelynmartinez8045]

​@@guywithinterwebs here here

[@TheLiamster]

This would easily cost a trillion dollars and take over 50 years to build

[@guywithinterwebs]

@TheLiamster it doesnt have to. China dn the Netherlands do similar projects at significantly larger scales for the low billions. New York has the tax base for it too. It just takes the political will to cut the red tape and root out the corruption that inflates the cost

[@lugi25]

​@@guywithinterwebsthat's it. Same reason why we don't have high speed rail, cause it'll be way to "expensive".

[@DinoCon]

It would be significantly more cost effective to build more public transit both in New York and across America that way people could comfortably live far away from the city and this reducing over crowding.

[@briefern823]

The comment I was waiting for

[@BBGOnYT]

I want you to go on google maps, click on a train station on Long Island, and look at the current train lines. Then I want you to look at the buildings around the train station. You'll notice that public transit is not the issue. The issue is the lack of density in the suburbs and the lack of density around the train stations.

[@GRAPH_GURUS]

Thus, wealthy individuals are destabilizing housing in New York City.

[@louiswalch590]

The Community: "We need more housing and public spaces"... NYC: "Ok, let's build casinos"

[@markanthony1004]

Accurate

[@davidyoung5114]

It's not so much that the sea levels are rising, as it is a fact that the eastern end of North America is slowly sinking into the Atlantic Ocean. After the last ice age (18,000 years ago approximately), once the glaciers over north-central North America began to retreat, the center of the continent has been slowly rising up, causing the Atlantic coast line to descend. Even if humans were to stop global warming in the near future, the Atlantic coast will still be sinking for the next several centuries.

[@paytonturner1421]

It's important to keep in mind how wetlands are one of many important things that keep sea levels regulated on the land. And how it can help with controlling floods.

[@the0ne809]

this will never happen. this was some dude who came up with this. this is not a serious proposal.

[@memohaddad]

We safe up here in West Harlem, nice and high from the waters :P

[@Kitch9842]

You’re correct. We will be told affordable housing but it will be luxury when build.

[@IndigenousAmericanTrucker]

So, a city as big and important as NYC that sits on an island or peninsula, doesn't have any levees? This is crazy to me! The fact that they haven't been built something to protect this city is beyond me!

[@mgp1203]

It's sad that NY's 3% rental vacancy rate sounds good compared to Sydney's 1.1%. In all seriousness, what would probably happen is they'll "revitalise" or in other word's gentrify more neighbourhoods to make room for newcomers.

[@r.d.9399]

Stop allowing corporations and foreigners from buying real estate. That would solve the problem

[@StichyWichy21]

4:29 Why does that boat appear before the rest of the background?

[@Rhezoloution]

Eagle eye! Nice

[@samkulik8701]

In 1967 Montreal hosting the World Fair built two large islands on which over 100 pavilions were erected. So it can be done. It does cost, but it proved that with the proper planning it can be done

[@williamemrich9349]

If you put a patch over the old wounds it’s not going to heal. The source has to be resolved first! Construct a surge barrier so expansions are possible and sea water is controlled.

[@kylemontgomery9851]

I wish land was worth $85,000 an acre. The average cost is around 43 million for an acre. The price commonly quoted is $1000 a square foot for Manhattan

[@danielpruitt8550]

That's a modest estimate, quite mind boggleing to me, the cost would be $43,560,000 without taxes added.

[@oceanbearmountain]

yeah i was like where tf did he get that number, did he ask chatgpt lol

[@Pistolita221]

@@oceanbearmountain probably.

[@eleganz]

They don’t have the will to control crime and spending. This will never get done

[@MrBoliao98]

I would recommend short 30 to 60 years leases to allow for renewal and adaptation in the city. No use adding more land if you do not have the power to renew and space to resolve problems of the day. Maybe in the future one might be short of spaces for commercial, you might add, or if you're short of a peculiar space you need in the city, well New York would have space.

[@kolonelkingkraker]

I give it 200 years and $200 trillion

[@BernardAguiar]

Is it “land reclamation” if the land wasn’t previously there? If anything, it would be “land creation”.

[@georgepig7362]

Not trying to sound like an idiot but why not urbanize Staten Island

[@dodge1515]

Seriously, I agree with that. Give it the Downtown Brooklyn treatment.

[@manonthemoog]

It is because no one wants to live near Staten Islanders.

[@marmac83]

It's not just that they used to flood... the sea level is rising

[@denisvincelette9758]

I would ask of this project? Is that if there is a provision in this idea of a new land mass for NYC Manhattan… A future safeguard against a high water surge during, earthquakes, unusual weather patterns, major Tropical storms,Hurricanes and yearly rise in water levels?

[@manonthemoog]

You neglected to mention air bnb, which has converted many apartments into hotel rooms, further reducing the number of apartments on the market. Is it possible to put a moratorium on building more luxury apartments, i.e. "unaffordable housing"? We've built more than enough of them for now.

[@mauriciovanegas7676]

Waste and not worth it. Plenty of boroughs (The Bronx , Queens, Brooklyn and Staten Island) to replace old buildings with new tall buildings. I can see that and save a lot of money 💰.

[@jamesstephens9702]

Why extend lower Manhattan island with wetlands just to add more housing? Why not extend the island with wetlands to add more flood plains to the island?

[@m.b.5839]

The Dutch have been expanding Holland since two millennia - kzbin.info/www/bejne/g3upnnWqmpmWqLc

[@worldview730]

Why don't they pump that money into widening the FDR from beginning to end & other roadways to improve traffic flow & help the congestion pricing issue?

[@danielavakian7249]

Blud are using galvanized square steel‼️

[@hallnall1667]

Interesting.

[@moelnaghi3714]

Better idea as Japan did " high concrete wall" around the cost=line.

[@earnthis1]

Thousands of apartments sit empty for years. Tax landlords who keep buildings empty. Expanding the city will just create more expensive, empty apartments.

[@Hellmood_CZ]

oh i would love that

[@qtamomusic7620]

It would probably never happen, but what if New York unpaved most of it's streets and turned them into tree lined pedestrian/cyclist only (with exceptions for supply vehicles)? Might help a bit with flooding. Also shocked to hear there is only one transit connection between NY and NJ.

[@Rhezoloution]

There are more the video is wrong: 1- Holland Tunnel 2- Lincoln Tunnel 3- George Washington Bridge 4- Ferry rides across the hudson from weehawkin NJ to midtown manhattan. But yes another bridge or tunnel would be nice.

[@SlabbyMess]

Just use sponges to dry it up

[@goat7844]

I highly doubt it. How many years have Penn Station projected taken. N it’s much

[@RyveObien]

Wouldn’t it be better and so much cheaper if they just build better transportation that can take you to the city in 20 mins.

[@JohnLnyc]

First, NYC is not just Manhattan. This piece is too narrowly focused. Brooklyn, Bronx, Queens, SI are NYC so focusing on just Manhattan skews the overall picture. Also NYC is not alone. There are NJ, LI and Westchester. (Add CT to a lesser degree). “Building affordable housing” Interesting. First, define affordable. Even one chooses to attempt this, the cost of housing involves many factors..a free market? Rates are really determined by what people are willing to pay not able to pay. Really, there’s no economic reasoning that says everyone has to live in Manhattan. Something Ed Koch noted. Second, Who is going to build this? And why? Finally, I am skeptical. The storm impact mitigation stuff is being used here to promote the land expansion idea. Sounds like some folks have figured a way to push a big idea using a smaller idea…and scare tactics.

[@Pistolita221]

@15:59 1 acre of Manhattan is not 84k. 1.6 to 5 million seems to be the going rate, but I genuinely think 84 millions sounds more reasonable for Manhattan, then creating 150 billion in land value, for that 1.5 billion in tax revenue.

[@baddestjoanna-michellesmit5578]

Wow this is why they displacing folks .smh ... they beendoing this for ages ..... On going ,u got to 10 yrs here .

[@udeciderealreporting6748]

So, only "rich & affluent people" are protected.....

[@felineboy1586]

Honestly they need money for police and some new judges

[@Odm1776]

NYC #95 for crime tho

[@kaiseramadeus233]

​@@Odm1776Conservatives don't care about facts, that's why they cling to their failing ideology. Cities in their states are far more dangerous but no one talks about that

[@haruhifujioka5952]

The NYPD is easily the most over funded police department in the country if funding the police was the solution then it would’ve worked by now😅

[@dhruv9744]

It’s never gonna happen

[@travelandeats8518]

It already has major major issues… make the issues bigger?

[@richardadams6988]

Hello.....is anyone there!!! Has anybody seen or heard about the airport..in Japan ( Kansai )? Check it out !!! And Dubai ( palm island).. you know history repeat it's self.....any clown ( city officials) that would ever think about letting this happen is absolutely insane !!!!!

[@Unknown-tizy]

if this expansion goes through would Manhattan be bigger then the Bronx or no

[@bruhbutwhytho2301]

No

[@Ulrich_dArth]

NEVERRR~!!

[@longshotny]

15:55 Way Wrong " an acre of NYC land is $85,000" correction an acre cost $5 million in Manhattan... A two-car garage in NYC exceeds $85k, yet alone an acre.🤷🏿‍♂️

[@denisvincelette9758]

This would mean that Staten Island will no longer be an island….🤔

[@anthonydavis6255]

so you tell me the gov can get this much done in 6 years , but over 10 years to get one lane expansion on freeway?

[@udeciderealreporting6748]

& I guess they'll relocate The Staten Island Ferry Terminal AND THE WHOLE LOWER EAST SIDE....

[@nilebabes]

They need to start moving ppl upstate where there is a lot of space the city alone is a population of a country.

[@jstantongood5474]

Florida, texas or Louisiana.

[@debbiek7193]

TOO MANY YT ADS!!!!!

[@fusseluflecki]

😮

[@TheLiamster]

This would cost over a trillion dollars and take at least 50 years to build

[@hawknet9933]

0:55 that’s the guy who slowly ate a burger on live tv, telling citizens that they would get a free burger with fries if they got the jab.

[@AL-lh2ht]

Ok, no one actually considers this as something people will actually do.

[@juliangang2018]

here before here before here before here before here before

[@brianhagan3290]

What an absurd idea. A better idea is to reclaim wetlands, improve transit, and build more high density, affordable housing in parts of Brooklyn beyond downtown BK and in Queens beyond LIC.

[@MartyFox]

This project wouldn’t be completed until 2050 at the earliest

[@the0ne809]

it took 10 years to build 4 subway station. more like 200 years at minimum. also, this is not a serious proposal. there are 0 politician pushing for this. its just bs.

[@LeonidJP92]

Did someone think about Staten island and subway commuters?

[@prosumer6to9]

what fuckin rising sea levels???

[@andrewb9302]

Nobody is planning on actually doing this it was a proposed idea from years ago

[@Rhezoloution]

2030??? Hahahahahah not a chance in hell. Not even 2050

[@jstantongood5474]

The lovely Narrator is South African correct?

[@cakesama9770]

Maybe we could just build more housing instead all of this run around

[@lordmegatron8444]

This isn't even close to happening. It comes from an old plan before Battery Park City was a thing.

[@MrSloika]

The population of NYC is not growing, demand for real estate is growing. There is a demographic shift taking place in NYC. The poor/working class are being forced out while the wealth people are moving in. The wealthy demand more space so even as the population drops, demand for larger apartments goes up.

[@yardgrid]

What could possibly gobwrong?

[@itslitallday4361]

If the do this lower rent 😊

[@diabetes1.564]

This is great but what about the rest of the city? The entire city was marshland

[@danariusm.4283]

Why don’t they just use all that money to move more into the mainland instead of building onto an island. Nature is going to win regardless.

[@TexpatOTG]

I heard people were moving out. Do they really need to grow it?

[@manonthemoog]

1 million people move out of NYC every year. Problem is 1.2 million want to move in.

[@TexpatOTG]

@@manonthemoog Thanks for the info

[@davidburke2697]

The rats need more space.

[@dingdong1822]

Humans just don't learn do they?

[@baddestjoanna-michellesmit5578]

Sounds nice becuase water st when iwroked in jp morgan was under water during a storm ....the federal district should be protected versu the ppl lol typical nycmoney allotting .

[@tobygoodguy4032]

Well New Sewer City has lost 600M in the last 4 years so like ummm, what's the point? ('Capital of the world' ... what galaxy?")

[@Aggie4life77]

All that in 5 years?

[@zacharym167]

Split ny upstate is not the same

[@PonderingPyramids]

this project like you said seems unlikely. I’d also add futile. You can’t stop water. It will eventually overtake whatever it wants. The seas will only keep rising, cost to maintain will too. Just put up a no vacancy sign in Manhattan for 10 years, make improvements along the wetlands to prevent flooding. There are a lot of great cities in America underutilized. They are cheaper and less populated. There comes a point when a city cannot grow any bigger.

[@zacharym167]

So they got a even bigger problem nyc also got a crime problem

[@petersteinmeijer519]

EN WAI CEE ?

[@MAdams-ey4if]

That is the dumbest idea on the planet! Whatever small island extension you build will quickly be too crowded. The problem is Housing as an Investment Asset. Stop allowing the rich to buy up and develop housing that is beyond the reach of people who work 40-50 hours a week in all types of jobs. Stop Housing as Investment and there will be no problem. America has KEYBOARD money. Right now the top 1% are accessing the Keyboard Money for damn near free and they use that interest free, rollover money to impoverish All The Rest.

[@user-yo4gl1fb2k]

They’re bankrupt they’re not doing anything

[@idriveastationwagon1534]

NYC DLC

[@quartytypo]

Expand for what? People are leaving NYC.

[@tuliboxfortshorts]

That’s a lot of wetlands

[@hughgran]

Adding another enclave for the rich won’t help. There are 100s of thousands of vacant homes and store fronts. This is just to create more wealthy Property via our tax dollars. Also it’s going to increase flooding.

[@zacharym167]

This video gets to many things wrong First off nyc people are moving to nj not the rest of the state especially upstate Second they are not growing they are shrinking and projected to continue Third they have a even bigger problem with there zoning and crime and fixing those to will do much better then wast money on expanding the city. Like maybe instead of expanding it they should update the zoning and start expanding on the upper half of nyc like rock land and west Chester

[@bobdavis9086]

NYC can’t even manage what they’ve got!

[@Kalamana]

Is stupid to expand the City as a New Yorker maybe we should fix the fact NYC is 80% empty since the pandemic and rents are still only high because of new rent control laws that landlords don’t want to get stuck at an unsustainable rates with all the new taxes but NY is very empty compared to what it was so many great places have been closing and are gone😥😓

[@manonthemoog]

Rents are high because interest rates are high, so no one is buying apts now, putting more pressure on the rental market. Meanwhile, many apartments worth millions sit empty year round.

[@Kalamana]

@@manonthemoog yes that is true too, but there is a huge innovatory of empty apartments and tons of empty buildings too

[@manonthemoog]

@Kalamana The only empty apartments in NY are those that very few can afford or apartments bought strictly as an investment and no-one ever moves in, or at best is occupied a few weeks a year.

[@Kalamana]

@@manonthemoog not true I know many great places and buildings but they are not listening tones of innovatory on the market because they need to keep prices high next year they are pushing a federal bill which will control all rent prices across the county and if you look at all the defaulted buildings from unpaid taxes they aren’t allowed to go to auction anymore as the city it’s been frozen lien auctions since the pandemic the city is taking them over, they want to tare down most of the old beautiful buildings of NY to make room for their smart city plan to change NYC skyline as it has been designated to be a new smart city by 2040 just like Maui and many other cities planned, access the county they want NY empty for their plan. The rental market isn’t what it was and places are being taken over by squatters, and most of the places on the public mls are renovated already the other places are not listed, rents are high and apartments to buy are still pricey but full buildings to buy are cheap even those at 80% capacity, i seen full skyscrapers sell cheap recently at 1/10 the cost to build it. NY is mostly empty and the rental market is being kept high but their is a lot more innovatory then what’s publicly listed.

[@marmac83]

It will never happen.

[@m.b.5839]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/g3upnnWqmpmWqLc

[@Booz2020]

Never Say NEVER 😎 Justin Bieber

[@adamkh0r]

why isn’t hudson county just incorporated into nyc? new borough could solve the housing crisis

[@samkulik8701]

More logically Nassau County