[Version Kiana] Honkai Impact 3 6.4 Valkyrie Investment + Builds Guide

[@BaoPham2]

Just some clarification Hotr should be pulled first before any other valkyrie (if i couldnt make that clear enough in the video) And HoO gear should be pulled before HoFi gear. Ideally the order should be HoTr > HoO gear> Hotr + Weapon HoFi + weapon > Other stigs Marisa honkai discord recommends this order HoO gear > Hotr + Weapon > HoFi + weapon > other gears missing For silverwing N-EX, her M stigmata BiS is Hotr's M stigmata, her T and B are the same as shown in the video As for SP valks, ai chan should be in the stigmata + weapon needed section. when i say stigmata needed, it means they need AT LEAST turgenev T and B. However best case scenario is their BiS stigmatas

[@Teabreak-venerate]

Lop the fact the haxxor bumner is the 3rd oldest sp valks even older that most meta dps'es but her stigmata are still meta and a very good alternative for any elemental support as if you don't have their gear just use turg

[@chestertamayo1894]

7:28 you only actually need NEX TB and Weapon. HoTr's M piece actually replaces NEX's M piece as BiS. 8:27 IMO, Pardo is in the same tier as Ai-Chan in that she only needs her weapon. Especially since Turgenev probably won't be used by Haxxor in an ice team assuming Sushang has her gear. Pardo is one of those support valks that can be used as an altrnative to any other team (all ele team and even physical) if you don't have respective supports, since her primary buff (purple swipe/ult) boosts team Total Damage Multiplier. Therefore, Turg on pardo is one of the reasons she managed to kick Raven from the fire line up in the past. Bastet is only needed for additional freeze buffs (longer freeze, team tdm boost upon freeze, easier freeze, team sp on freeze) to boost ice lineup including phys if you dont have griseo/gear. Even then, when faced in a situation where the enemies are immune to freeze, Pardo will absolutely benefit with turg more. (Looking at you ranged Assaka) Upon thinking it further, as a support who will equip weapons and stigmatas Eden also moves to "weapon minimum" tier actually. Lightning lineups specifically for any lightning dps that is not Aponia or a 4/4dps will have Eden using turgenev. Although, she still has a spot for weapon+stig tier due to Handel specifically being the best farmable Lightning stigs (BiS of HoT even).

[@BaoPham2]

Yeah you're right actually, thanks for pointing that out :) However I'd like to point out that when I say stigmata, I mean that they require AT LEAST Turgenev, or in Eden's case, if you don't have Turgenev, hendel set. I should've mentioned that in the video so thanks for letting me mention that now. Turgenev is still a premium set that you have to roll for and I'd say it's required to make many of those SP valks meta, which means theyre still "stigmata required" valks if that makes sense

[@chestertamayo1894]

@@BaoPham2 in that case, its Ai-chan that gets moved to the weapon+Stig combo since you never really mentioned f2p stigs for her to use, just saying Turg is enough for her.

[@BaoPham2]

@@chestertamayo1894 yep, my mistake, will add to pinned comment

[@Teabreak-venerate]

You need Eden's weapon as without it you'll have to do a combo before ult when using handed and you'll have to do a combo before switching out if using turg As her weapon let's her enter fascination on qte saving you the need and points of having to do a combo for fascination

[@Teabreak-venerate]

Do not casting ultimate does not apply fascination

[@marzel4212]

Update: I finally got her!!! The trio team is so fun! I'll be grinding for Kiana's gear now. Hopefully I get lucky with her weapon.

[@rolandomaguad6966]

What i love about jade knight sushang is her sheild break

[@marzel4212]

I have Herrscher of Truth and Origin, the only one missing is Finality. Only 23 pulls left and I'm gonna get her!! I don't really have the best gear for them atm but I do have some decent alternatives.. I wish I get Kiana's latest Herrscher form as soon as possible :'D

[@BaoPham2]

If you can, get her weapon too!

[@marzel4212]

@@BaoPham2 I got HoFi stigmata (M), that's one step closer to getting her full gear. I probably won't complete her gear in a while though.

[@BaoPham2]

@@marzel4212 all good bro, her M stigmata is her best piece so its a start!

[@marzel4212]

@@BaoPham2 Woah, then that's great!! I'm only 18 pulls left till I get HoFi, I ran out of ways to grind for crystals because I dried out every single event and story chapters, the game won't give me a chance even at hard pity :'D

[@chestertamayo1894]

Goodluck on getting HoFi, rest assured that if you got her but failed to get Key of Anonymity/Domain of Origin that it is no longer that required in order to utilize the Trio rotation. There are techs you could utilize to still fit the entire rotation.

[@fizzyjam]

pretty good guide, i think you could have emphasized the importance of DPS weapons and support stigmata more, especially cause people in the comments are saying they have every herrscher of the trio but not their gear. i also think you should have specified more that you should NOT be pulling for HoR, HoT, sushang or MPE as valkyries (obviously you do want their gear). there is no reason to pull for them, 3/4 are farmable and HoT is both in dorm supply and also if you dont have her HoO can be a substitute as a lightning dps and the other psy valks can do the psy content. also, just because HoT, HoR and MPE's best stigmatas are farmable does not mean that they are easy to get!! overall, good video and i hope to see more from you :D

[@NyankoMata]

I luckily got full 4/4 HoO and HoFi + HoTr (only valk) from the version before bc farming for version kiana. I hope I can get her equipment soon though~

[@AhmedMohamed-xi5im]

Yo dude I pulled for skins banner as a beginner to get the box and unlock HOR and I felt like regretting it later

[@BaoPham2]

if youre still early on in the game, you can always make a new account

[@northstar67]

I regret not getting HoO in this patch

[@aniimey]

I missed lot of free character 😢 Device issues 😅

[@tizurl]

For SW from what I know now N-EX TB Bronya Zaychik M is better than 3pc N-EX

[@aniimey]

2:06 why everytime i delete a game there some good sh!t going on 😒

[@Beomdaaaaan]

💜

[@lococrash]

well i done fucked up i came back to the game recently like a week and a half recently and i first pulled for all origin stuff (weapon and stig) then went kiana becose of her leader skill and then her weapon (in the process i got 2 of her middle stig) and i missed truth so i guess back to the ol sit and wait until the banner is back up i guess...... damm XD on the plus side origin and finality are fun to play.

[@BaoPham2]

It's all good, you still have 2 of the strongest DPSes. Just try to get Hotr ASAP

[@kyurokun]

Is it worth it to level up weapon to max level after pri arm or just leav it at level 45?

[@BaoPham2]

Yes, prioritize your DPSes first

[@kyurokun]

@@BaoPham2 oh so i need to get the last star?

[@BaoPham2]

@@kyurokun u should get max level

[@kyurokun]

@@BaoPham2 i see!but some people said it not worth it...i wonder why?

[@BaoPham2]

@@kyurokun I don't know who's saying that but it's definitely worth it for DPSes

[@thomaskok5773]

My acc only has HoR and Silverwing as my Ice dps as I found Hotr playstyle very complicated (pls don't judge me, I'm just started play less than a year ago) if I have to choose between these 2, which valkyries weapons should I priorities ??

[@erinajo4370]

HoR

[@BaoPham2]

HoR, get her divine key if you can

[@Shiduu115]

Is HoH weapon very needed as newbie?

[@Shiduu115]

And is pardofelis and Hb good support for HoH without their weap and stigs?

[@BaoPham2]

You should ALWAYS pull for weapon. pardo and Hb are good supports but later on, you should transition to pardo and Jade knight, and try to get at least their weapon

[@Shiduu115]

@@BaoPham2 i pulled for her weapon, and i get 2 of her stigmata not the weapon🥲

[@aniimey]

How to get all those free characters for free ?

[@Sinon0017]

rubbish guide, telling people to pull for farmable valkyries is also a big NO NO, I know it's been 3 weeks since you posted but a lot of this guide does not hold true whatsoever to the actual performance of valkyries as an example, hofi as a solo dps is performing pretty badly and should only be a pull if you own geared hotr and hoo hoo is the biggest priority in ver kiana as her gear is very cheap followed by hotr, after 6.4, hotr is the most necessary pickup 4/4 and hoo and hofi are to be ignored unless you compete in rl or nirvana where you are expected to have them anyway

[@marimarianneanne]

with farmable, just take it as pulling for their gacha gears.

[@erinajo4370]

Boomer ALERT. Please igone him and his recycled ♻️ words. The guide was good.

[@Sinon0017]

@@marimarianneanne that would make sense but in terms of order of priority, mpe is definitely not first, that would be jk

[@Sinon0017]

@@erinajo4370 it aint but sure, whatever you want

[@BaoPham2]

@Lqvyy no it means u should pull for her weapon… i even mention her stigs and valk is free. Infact, ive mentioned every time when a valk is free or if their stigs/ weapon is free. You clearly misinterpreted the video. also the reason why i recommend Hofi is because everyone should have hotr FIRST, and Hoo is free, so its assumed youll have those first. If someone chooses to roll Hofi first even though i said in the video to prioritize Hotr first, then thats not my fault. i even clarify that you need hotr first. That being said, youre definitely right on HoO being priority before HoFi because her gear is cheap, and Ill clarify any mistakes in the pinned comment. Also ive already clarified that this guide applies only to 6.4, and any honkai guide should not be used past this version, hence the disclaimer. There will never be a valkyrie tier list/pull guide that will last long, so im not really sure what you expect

[@Sambroke]

Can you make a cracker guide

[@BaoPham2]

Im sorry ik u made this comment 2 months ago but what is a cracker guide