Versus Series: Darth Malgus Vs. Lumiya

[@EvanNova95]

Old Republic Vader Vs. New Republic Vader! Hope you all enjoy part 1 of the “Darth Malgus Mini-Marathon.

[@silascraven]

For the next video, can you do Darth Nihilus (the grim reaper of the force) versus Lord Voldemort (the parasite of magic), that way you can have a Darth Nihilus fight and your first notable crossover fight Edit: picture it; Darth Nihilus, the grim reaper of the force faces against Lord Voldemort, the parasite of magic, now that would be a great video for star wars fans and Harry Potter fans, who is with me?

[@grandlegomoff848]

Who’s gonna battle Darth Malgus

[@matthewaguilarschnitzer6518]

JamesBrad 1996 Vader vs Jaina would be a better fight than Revan vs Vader

[@brokenknight4938]

EvanNova95 Can you do Satele Shan (grandmaster) vs Revan and Bastila just cause it would see if the descendants could beat the ancestors if not can you use Malgus against dooku or Kyle Katarn pls

[@matthewaguilarschnitzer6518]

JamesBrad 1996 Malgus vs Anikan Skywalker or starkiller sounds epic

[@MrMaxenen11]

You forgot to mention the time Malgus scream shattered the eardrums of those around him and buckled the hull of a star crusier.

[@azronger7214]

You incorrectly state Malgus has never faced offensive telepathy, but in Onslaught he fought Gnost-Dural, seeing through his illusions. "Gnost-Dural is a master of mind-tricks. Do not let yourself be deceived." "These are illusions, nothing more." --Darth Malgus to the Outlander during the fight with Gnost-Dural

[@rakshithanand8262]

All else aside, being in a constant state of fury so pure it transcends into zen-like tranquility is probably a pretty good defence against telepathic intrusion anyway.

[@wholesome_masochist4113]

@@rakshithanand8262 Such rage eventually becomes a new brand of normal, and it becomes particularly difficult for someone to get that adrenaline rush from fury and rage alone.

[@elderliddle2733]

Note however, the hero of Tython is the canonical pathway. So that raid never took place.

[@iceomistar4302]

@@elderliddle2733 However I still think that's true, Malgus is extremely strong willed an driven by bloodlust and insane amounts of rage, I honestly think like with any situation he can power through it.

[@geoffreyedgson7875]

I agree, yet double-check the date on this video. It might have been published before the Gnost-Dural boss-fight was released for SWTOR. Also, this "mini-marathon" was focusing on Darth Malgus' accomplishment at his recognized (consensus) peak; ca.the Cold War and 2nd Great Galactic War. Even a Sith cyborg would eventually have wear-and-tear after 6, 7 decades of war, defeats, capture, confinement and the gradually impacts of time on his organic tissues. By the time he met Gnost-Dural, he might have experienced a 5%, 10% drop.

[@decim3391]

Malgus would probably focus only on the lightwhip and just tank the shit out of all the non-lethal strands, which Lumiya would not think any sane being would do. Tanking any non-lethal damage to get in a lethal hit like he did against Zallow.

[@iceomistar4302]

I agree, Malgus is a tank literally, he would just soak up all the punishment and probably manhandle Lumiya with telekinesis or Sith Lightning.

[@thepriorstone4064]

Imagine it ends in like 10 seconds lol

[@derekvandewarker4211]

@@iceomistar4302 shit he’d prolly tank through the shit and end her with his bare hands

[@tadhggoreyoneill13666]

If Darth Malgus was hunting me I'd just save him the time and effort by ending it all myself cuz ain't no way in hell am I taking him on at any point in time 😂

[@JonP1245]

Yo fr

[@tadhggoreyoneill13666]

@@JonP1245 Darth Malgus is scary

[@justyouraveragejoe9454]

Jensaarai, GreyJedi, Rico, Antoine, Reti, myself, Pre-2020 Evan, literally every versus maker: "Malgus' style is never confirmed in any source, but he looks like a Djem So practicioner." Old Republic Encyclopedia: *Am I a joke to you*

[@jshaw3793]

Just Your Average Joe Djem So with Juyo in my Opinion

[@TrajGreekFire]

Jen was always saying free form fighter

[@wristofkings]

I'd say he wasn't committed to any single lightsaber form, but primarily drew from Shii-Cho, Shien/Djem-So and Juyo with Soresu for defense, while chaining Force techniques into that Niman-style. He understood what worked in the battlefield against the Force users of his day and rejected the moves that didn't, basically a Star Wars version of Jeet Kun Do or Krav Maga.

[@geoffreyedgson7875]

Just Your Average Joe: The encyclopedia only listed forms that were optional or popular to Sith Warriors in the game, or in the time period. It's like saying during the Clone Wars Ataru and Niman were the most popular forms practiced by the Jedi, and assuming every master were specialists in one or the other. There is an official dossier page on Darth Maglus in the Encyclopedia, yet if those lightsaber forms are listed they only mean he practiced them, his foundation-form or preferences was not listed there. Similar to somebody assuming since Anakin Skywalker's repertoire include Djem So, Shien, Ataru, Shii-Cho and Niman, he was a master of all of them; he's wasn't, and only practiced Niman as a minor supplement, favouring Ataru and Djem So ahead of all the others. Darth Malgus can be reasonably certain to have practiced the forms listed in the Old Republic Encyclopedia, but no page actually labels one as his most preferred or most used form; kinda like Mace Windu and Yoda can be listed to master all 7 forms, but not include how the former preferred Vapaad and the latter preferred Ataru.

[@callmetopgun45]

Worth the wait! So excited. Stay safe all Jedi and Sith out there! Much love from Dantoonie

[@bigheadj.r.628]

May you be safe as well.

[@valdr2286]

Staying safe in dathomier with my harem of night sister 🤣🤣🤣

[@dimond360_]

Stay safe, calm and watch Fanaylsis. Hopes of happiness and safely from Taris

[@notareptilianiswear.6600]

Thank you my friend, I will do my best, but Felucia is terrible this time of year.

[@Lossandthepanda]

Evan: mentioning the Hero of Tython Me, pretending that he's mentioning Darth Nox instead: =)

[@kadindarklord]

Game character choices aside... that fight would play very differently.

[@treblazer]

literally what i did

[@baz5042]

Personally I’m of the option that it took the Emperor’s Wrath, Darth Nox, Cipher 9, and the BH to defeat Malgus.

[@crystayaela1078]

@@baz5042 I think BW confirmed it was the republic strike team that defeated malgus. So it would be the hero of tython, the bar sentaar of the jedi order, the leader of havoc squad and one of the best smugglers in the galaxy, not just the hero of tython. Just shows how powerful malgus was at his peak. He was one of the best villains of TOR and I am glad he is back. Still don't understand why they took the grenade part out though ...

[@generalhorse493]

Don't you mean Darth Kallig?

[@loregeek7853]

After you finish the Malgus series, I have a few versus series suggestions: 1. Embo Vs Bossk 2. K'kruhk (Grandmaster )Vs Qui-Gon Jinn 3. Vader Vs Malgus

[@darthmetum3324]

There is an older Malgus vs Vader, by Jensaarai1 I believe, they usually do force users but I think Embo, and your giving Qui Gon a lot of credit. I don't think he could beat clone wars K'kruhk, nothing against Qui Gon but his whole retooled Aturu into a strength based form just means K'kruhk could overpower Jinn, you know being a massive whipid and all. The force I think they'd be about equal at least they could just counter each other. So it would really come down the endurance and strength. I'll agree Jinn is likely more skilled as a duelist but his style just doesn't give him a way to beat K'kruhk.

[@loregeek7853]

@@darthmetum3324 Good point, I mainly want to see a versus using Embo against whoever Evan decides, K'kruhk is just such an awesome character I think it would be really cool to pit him against someone of similar caliber, Maybe Kam Solusar or Corran Horn. As for Malgus, I didnt know Jensaarai1 made one, Ill have to go check it out. Maybe we put Malgus against Lord Hoth, two very experienced battlefield commanders and lightsaber duelists.

[@abeloth1116]

To point 3.: Sidious stated that Malgus is even to times more powerful than him and Vader together, plus he is officially the strongest Sith Warrior, that’s why I believe that he defeats Vader easy 🔥💯

[@yungpo9853]

@@abeloth1116 Where does Palpatine mention this give me an exact quote.

[@jasonvcool1770]

I wanna see instead of Vader how about Anakin vs Malgus I've seen a lot of Vader vs Malgus and I seen obiwan vs malgus but never an Anakin vs Darth malgus

[@kylemc2290]

This was a very well-made video. At first glance I thought that Lumiya would be the victor (Very unorthodox weapon, greater speed and flexibility, being able to contend with Luke Skywalker), but when you brought up their force abilities, and how she considered herself to be lacking in the telekinetic department, I could definitely picture Malgus rag-dolling her if things were not going well for him in the sabers department. Otherwise, this long time versus series fan's glad to see more of your upcoming work.

[@iceomistar4302]

Its why Corran Horn despite his mastery of Tutaminis and Lightsaber combag would lose a lot of the time due to his lacking telekinetic skills, all you would have to do his force grip him and he has no ability to retaliate as long as you don't use force lightning which he would just absorb.

[@JediAcolyte94]

Now this is an interesting matchup and more importantly an interesting clash of styles. Hope you or the other Fanalysis council members consider these potential matchups: Rahm Kota vs. Plo Koon or Lucien Draay Shaak Ti vs. Mara Jade Saba Sebatyne vs. Oppo Rancisis Teneb Kel vs. Ferus Olin Aurra Sing(Legends) vs. Ventress(TCW+DD)

[@rakshithanand8262]

Most of these look good except for the first one- I love Kota, he's one of my favourite parts of TFU, but he isn't really in the same league as Plo, a Council master with comparable experience and even greater skill in all areas. I'm sure he'd make a fight of it, but ultimately he'd go down 9 times out of 10.

[@tuckercoolman5390]

JediAcolyte26 yes Saba is so underrated and needs to be in a fight asap

[@dimond360_]

Tucker Coolman Agreed Saba is VERY underrated I mean she was a freaking grandmaster (temporary) but still

[@lapplandkun9273]

Has ferus actually been in a match? I want to see him

[@JediAcolyte94]

@@lapplandkun9273 Ferus Olin has never been used in a versus match up.

[@MrMaxenen11]

If a wookie and a human have equal mastery when it comes to enhancing their physical prowess with the force, wouldn't the wookie still be stronger? Since he has 10 times the strength to begin with and only increase it further with the force? I mean if both can enhance their physical strength by 1500%, their physical bodies would still matter. Or doesn't muscle matter when it comes to enhancing the body through the force? I always assumed muscle mattered since Bane instructs Zannah to use fast style instead of strong style because she is physically weak compared to him.

[@tompossessed1729]

Yeah Wookiee would stomp, because of the higher baseline gets higher boost form the same multiplier

[@TY-km8hj]

Nahh it definitely does matter

[@abeloth1116]

Interesting question, I think it doesn’t matter because there are a few very through the force physically strong characters

[@geoffreyedgson7875]

I agree; although the human may be faster and more flexible. The Wookie would have claws, teeth and I doubt there are more than 5 cognitive species which could break-through or impact their layers of fur (Trandosians, Barabell, Nogorri), so that would be a stomp-regardless; perhaps with or without the Force

[@TY-km8hj]

+EvanNova95 I have a potential matchup in mind: Revan and Malak vs Anakin Skywalker and Obi-Wan Kenobi. Two brothers vs another pair of brothers. A master and apprentice vs another master and apprentice. I hope u reply and possibly see potential in the idea keep up the great work and stay safe.

[@TY-km8hj]

+EvanNova95 another one I've also thought of is TCW Darth Maul vs Darth Malak

[@cammykins5813]

Antoine Bandele did that exact matchup on his channel.

[@FabiTheNoob]

RyanStellan 1775 He did a Darth Bane + Zahna matchup against either of them, but he didn't do Revan + Malak vs Anakin + Obi-Wan. At least I belive so (I just checked to be sure and didn't find it, but I might have just missed it)

[@anarchysrevolution8606]

revan & malak would win in that fight

[@TY-km8hj]

@@cammykins5813 nah did bane and zannah vs anakin and obi wan

[@jeremyleonjonas7657]

Oke, now I am seriously hyped for the upcoming vids, even more than I thought I could be... great video and very awesome match xD A couple of suggestions: Aryn Leneer (given the Malgus Marathon, it might fit) vs Shado Vao, both are exceptionally skilled and renowed Jedi of their times, despite being not along the most well known Jedi. Wolf Sazen vs Lord Vindican (again fitting for Malgus), Vindican faired of against Darach, who just so happens to be a Zabrak master I see comparable to Sazen (and I'd just like to see an Sazen analysis). I like the Legacy era.

[@jeremyleonjonas7657]

@Emperor Vowrawn I am actually not sure how skilled Leneer is next to Shado. Whom I would rank purely as duelist above everyone except Krayt and possibly Cade. Tbf I don't know how powerful Aryn became post-Deceived, but by that novel, I don't think it'd be a stomp either way.

[@andres0v916]

very well! nice video and, as always, Malgus kikking ass! don't know which other 2 opponents can hold his own against Malgus, so just to throw some name in: -Darth Malgus vs Anakin Skywalker -Darth Malgus vs General Grievious -Darth Malgus vs Shaak Ti -Darth Malgus vs Exar Kun -Darth Malgus vs Darth Zannah -Darth Malgus vs Darth Sion

[@wristofkings]

Malgus 6/10 (assuming ROTS Anakin and not Knightfall Vader) Either way Malgus 8/10 Kun 7/10 Malgus 6/10 (depends on how well he resists her sorcery) Malgus 9/10 (Sion may not die but he can be taken out of the fight)

[@TheMrstevewalker]

Yoooo Evan!! Thanks for another great Matchup. My money is on Malgus

[@jasoncummings7]

Same. Malgus will probably take down Lumiya because of his sheer power. This is the guy who took down the Battlemaster himself after all.

[@dimond360_]

I'm gonna call it that one of the two next Malgus matchups is against Cade Skywalker

[@EvanNova95]

Dimond360 _ Not planing on featuring Cade in the marathon, but one of your other guesses was actually spot one.

[@dimond360_]

EvanNova95 Jerec?

[@dimond360_]

An'ya Kuro?

[@DanieleMulas-up7np]

@@dimond360_ Jerec it is.

[@dimond360_]

I saw the community tab it looks great

[@Dreez76]

Satele Shan was saved *twice* from being killed by Darth Malgus, and she was one of the most powerful Jedi... and he beat her without problems, that's how powerful and skilled he is. When i played TWTOR, i was very disappointed in the dungeon which forces you to kill Malgus instead of giving you the option to join him.

[@ThatDragonGuy]

28:40. Hold on now, the Hero of Tython, without even counting in-game side quests, has fought more than their fair share of lightsaber-wielding opponents.

[@dreadkalibur1613]

Oh my.... this is the battle I've been looking forward to.

[@bennyc365]

Thanks Evan, looking forward to this one! Glad you continue to make content!

[@BigBWolf90]

"Don't ask me how it works it was never fully explained." Thanks Evan you summed up everything involving Star Wars since Force Awakens came out

[@lightrunner8169]

So the only potential lore correction I have to make here is that we don't know how Malgus survived. Initially BioWare did want it to be that he was carbon frozen by the Eternal Empire, but they did away with that and had that end up being one of the rumors of how he survived along with that Empress Acina found him in the debris of the station and revived him via cybernetic reconstruction before placing him under the mental conditioning that we learn about in Onslaught. The only other correction is that Acina is pronounced with a C-sound rather than a K-sound, so Ah-See-Nuh rather than Ah-Kee-Nuh. This was a spectacular video and I'm looking forward to the next two confrontations between our main man Malgus and whoever his next opponents will be.

[@brycetomecek5065]

Excellent as always, master Nova.

[@randallflagg1180]

Still don't get why people feel a need to compare Return of the Jedi era Luke to Vader. It is like don't you people get Vader was toying with Luke? Because you know Vader and Palps were still working together to turn Luke to the Dark Side right? That isn't a fair comparison. Because if we just take away the fact Vader is still working to turn Luke to the Dark Side and if we take away the inner struggles Vader was dealing with during his fight with Luke. If Vader came at Luke with intent to kill Return of the Jedi era Luke would have been slaughtered. Change my mind.

[@TY-km8hj]

Exactly I don't see how ppl dont recognise that and then try argue against it. If Vader wanted to kill luke he would have done so on beeping and on the death star. Luke himself admitted to leia that he wasnt strong enough against vader at the time in one of the legends works

[@abeloth1116]

Absolutely true

[@brokenknight4938]

Tom Cross Luke was totally out classed due to the fact that Vader has stomped high level masters and is clearly just messing with Luke and when Luke over powers him he lets it happen because he wants to see what his son can do like a father taking a punch from like a 7 year old son to see how strong he is. Vader has dooku levels of makashi because of his STRENGTH so he could’ve easily dodged Luke and cut him in half the whole point of the fight is to show that Luke has pushed his father to the point where Vader can’t use the dark side because he loves his son. I’m sick of people who think their so right that they bombard comments like this I would be fine if this changed tomorrow to say Palpatine was boosting Luke but you wouldn’t be

[@SuperSirius11]

Firstly you are overlooking the fact that Luke was also holding back, evidenced by the fact that he twice tried to not fight Vader. He even says "I will not fight you" while hiding from his father. And secondly. All of this: Although Darth Vader and Luke Skywalker are equally strong in the Force, their duels are more than just about physical strength. Beware the Sith By the time of the Battle of Endor, Luke Skywalker has studied some lightsaber technique from Obi-Wan's journal and and greatly advanced his abilities. Without a Master, such advancement would have been impossible for most, but Skywalker's unparalleled aptitude makes him a match for Darth Vader in their fateful duel onboard the second Death Star. Insider #62: Fightsaber The fight this time was far more balanced. Vader discovered that Luke was his match, and, once again, the Sith Lord found his thoughts straying to an alliance between them against the Emperor. Luke had indeed grown powerful since Bespin, and he was an equal match for his father. The Official Star Wars Fact File #111

[@SuperSirius11]

@@TY-km8hj That comment by Skywalker is flawed for two reasons A. Luke is notorious for his humility which results in him downplaying his abilities considerably. B. See my comment above this one. An in universe opinion can't override multiple out of universe statements like that. He is his equal.

[@yrooxrksvi7142]

42:05 That honestly sounds like a mixture of Force Illusion and Tutaminis, and possibly Force Barrier, which says a lot of how powerful this lady was.

[@nadakeshashvor423]

I do find it interesting that Lumiya operates as almost exactly the combatant most optimized to overcome it. A pattern fighter who operates by picking apart the stylistic flaws in her foes, while at the same time being a maverick, with a radical style based of shock and awe.

[@cinder1770]

Well done! Though I would love to hear you talk about other characters you don't usually talk about, such as Darth Maul, Darth Malak, Darth Revan, Bastila Shan, Luminara Unduli, Aayla Secura, etc.

[@EvanNova95]

Logan Gran Cappello It won’t be for a while, but I currently have plans to feature Darth Malak next season. As for the rest, we’ll see where it goes.

[@zondrabarth4508]

Agreed. :)

[@dimond360_]

Wait Evan does that mean you might do that Mara Jade Skywalker vs Darth Malak Reti4 gave you in that podcast over 3 years ago?

[@dimond360_]

Never mind I already know it’s Malak Vs Dooku

[@joshdavison6888]

Yes! Lumiya finally! Been requesting her since 2015 I think? I hope you'll bring Leia or Ben (Skywalker) into the ring some time soon too!

[@DanieleMulas-up7np]

I can't fathom why no one has used Leia in a VS matchup yet.

[@fallenknighttyler8695]

Dark Jedi Desann vs Jaina Solo Edit: Excellent work Evan

[@wristofkings]

Great fight. I second this.

[@dimond360_]

It’s interesting. No powered Desann could defeat post Rotj Luke with ease and Kyle Katarn. I personally fell that the only reason Katarn beat Dessan was by doing what he did to Jerec and severing his connection to the valley while empowering himself. If dessan could contend with Kyle than he could be a challenge for Jannia

[@allenyork3239]

Awesome just Awesome and a bonus that it the video is between two of my favorite Sith can't wait for the rest of the Malgus beat down Marathon.

[@callmetopgun45]

A suggestion! 😁 Darth Malgus vs Kam. I can’t remember Kam’s last name but he helped create the three rings of defense and it would be interesting.

[@Mephiles343]

Kam Solusar! That'd be a neat match imo

[@callmetopgun45]

Haven Sisk Thx! Couldn’t remember his name lol

[@dimond360_]

Solusar. As duelists it’s interesting but Malgus dominates as a force user. Still though it would be cool to see Kam in a match one day

[@exilhannabal]

Finally, a new vs video. I feel like ive binged all the good ones

[@DarthWill3]

You've gotta love close fights. Especially when two opponents have decades of experience under their belts. By the way, Malgus can also use tutaminus, at least when absorbing blaster fire.

[@lordvader1993ger]

True. But Lumiya's Vader suit can shrug many things of, like Vader or Grievous. ;)

[@vrdragon12]

Good to know you're staying safe Evan. I await to see what is next. May the Force be with you

[@savagenature1]

One critique I have for your analysis of Darth Malgus (bear in mind this is my own theory) is in regard to his tunnel vision. Yes, he has suffered from it on more than one occasion, but consider this: Immediately after being defeated by Satele Shan, Malgus engaged a pair of Jedi and bested them. Then sometime later, during the sacking of Coruscant, Malgus engaged multiple adversaries at the same time. None of them were able to take him by surprise. What this tells me is that Darth Malgus Overcame His Tunnel Vision... at least to a certain degree. Could someone still exploit the environment against him? Perhaps. But I seriously doubt it will be as easy as many have suggested.

[@lukegreensaber7362]

savage nature i havent read your comments in years what is up.? how are you?

[@savagenature1]

@@lukegreensaber7362 Been good. How about you?

[@lukegreensaber7362]

@@savagenature1 getting older but fine. they have this app in google play store lightsaber saber app its free. I love playing it. question do think obiwon beats malgus.

[@lukegreensaber7362]

if malgus fought kenobi at the jedi temple then one would assume yes obi could exploit a environmental advantage.

[@savagenature1]

@@lukegreensaber7362 Someone actually did an analysis of that a while ago. I think it might have been Antoine. He said Malgus wins and I more or less agree. I think it would be similar to Anakin vs Obi-Wan in R.O.S. at first. However, Malgus would have more battle experience than Anakin and thus wouldn't make the same mistakes. He also makes greater use of his force abilities than Anakin and is a better unarmed fighter. I think Obi-wan will put up a valiant effort but will ultimately get overwhelmed. Only the best Force wielders can ragdoll Kenobi: guys like Sidious and Dooku. Malgus definitely fits in that category.

[@zacktaft]

here is a idea for a vs video arcann from the old republic vs Anakin Skywalker

[@dimond360_]

A KZbinr named Rob Terra has done the matchup. It’s very well done and I would definitely recommend the video and him in general

[@thatzachguy76]

Great to see this coming back in to my feed. Now I have tons of great things to listen to while I pretend to do work from home XD

[@MastaKilla63]

A very good matchup indeed. It would be a very intense fight as well. It was quite entertaining I think! Very good!

[@zondrabarth4508]

Amazing video. :) You should be on the Rule of Two podcast with Star Wars Theory and Marc Fernandez from Collider. You would be an excellent guest to interview with your dedicated Star Wars knowledge. :D

[@judeskater93]

Anyone else get a feeling one of the matches is probably going to be darth Malgus vs Kyle katarn???

[@darylsdesigns6679]

judeskater93 this would be a close match Physicality: Malgus has greater strength and can keep pace with nimble fighters Martial Arts: Even matched. Both experienced duelists and possess diverse fighting styles Force Powers: Malgus (however slightly), both can fluidly incorporate telekinetic attacks and Force lightning, but Malgus’ Force maelstrom gives him another combative option Overall: Malgus would most likely win, but not easily

[@TSPH1992]

Kyle Katarn still has his beard. So he wins by default

[@joeymobb8438]

@@TSPH1992 God always wins. There's a reason why He didn't show up in the Yuuzhan Vong war until it was already won.

[@dimond360_]

Katarn also has the dark shear and sever force on his side. Plus he’s a battle master, he also has force lightning which Malgus wouldn’t initially expect and might get caught off guard but would defend against it. And he has that beard

[@darylsdesigns6679]

Dimond360 _ Kyle can only use the Dark Shear and Severe Force when in close proximity to a Force nexus like the Valley of the Jedi

[@Obi_WanKenobii.]

*Hello There*

[@rakshithanand8262]

*G e n e r a l K E N O B I*- *cough cough*

[@Alexzander1989]

You are a bold one

[@Hiddenlotuslord]

@@Alexzander1989 kill him!

[@GreaterGrievobeast55]

Huh what a thrilling conclusion! This was one of the few times I was actually concerned for malgus sake and even sort of favored his opponent but i was surprised hoe much of a march they were for one another despite their different applications of attack. I agree with the conclusion all and all but my respect for the dark lady has only grown. Hmmm, lets see as for some potential fights.. Darth sion vs Durge Darth andedu vs Lord momin Mace windu vs any named Yuzzhan vong character you’d think would be up for the fight.

[@Tracer_Krieg]

On the note of Darth Vader violating the Rule of Two by training Lumiya, the very existence of the Inquisitorious made that a moot point. Sidious by this point didn't care about really preserving the Rule of Two so long as a Galen Marek didn't happen; instead concerned only with attaining his ascension to Godhood (like a good Tzeentch disciple).

[@rakshithanand8262]

Yeah, he got angry because Galen was a potential threat, eugenics powered Force Prodigy that he is. None of the Inquisitors ever even came close to that sort of power level, so they were fine. Same principle with Sidious and Maul/Dooku/Ventress- as long as whoever you are training is disposable, rule of two doesn't care.

[@liltimmah]

thank you for another amazing video, can't wait for the next one :D

[@andresarbelaez6318]

Greatly enjoyed the vid man, much respect 🙏

[@darthmorgoththesecond9990]

Also Malgus vs Lord Hoth, Kas’im, or Mac Windu?

[@pyromania1018]

Antoine did the Mace fight already. Mace won.

[@darthmorgoththesecond9990]

Jackson Rushing all right how?

[@TheGreatestOne15]

@@darthmorgoththesecond9990 i dont know but iam gonna put my bet on muh vappad but that asside it would be a close match in my opinion

[@dimond360_]

Lord Hoth is more accolades than feats and it takes a lot of speculation to use him. Antonie did mace vs Malgus. And Kas’sim would be pretty cool

[@GreaterGrievobeast55]

42:02 WAIT WHAT?! That sounds like a really useful power that likely was never built upon!

[@MichaelMyers101]

Can't wait for the next video!

[@xRadinox]

This was such an interesting much! And I always wanted a match involving Lumiya

[@pyromania1018]

It ticks me off that the Malgus Reborn set has symmetrical arm equipment.

[@EdoItachiAnbu]

I love malgus. And you did a great job whith this video I really enjoyed it👌🔥

[@supershenron9162]

Vader seeing Lumiya after reconstruction Hey baby, wanna share feeding tubes xD

[@darthsefton2298]

Really enjoyed this...

[@bencurrens5607]

Loved this episode!

[@solidg3legend868]

I one time wondered what would happen if these two ever met. XD And this actually makes me wonder who would win between Dark Lord Starkiller (the darkside fully embraced version of Galen Marek shown in the non-canon darkside ending and dlc of the first Force Unleashed Game) vs. Lumiya.

[@andybrummel5555]

Darth Marr and Vader VS Lumiya and Malgus

[@baelzaden530]

Good match up , thx for the vid , but i think that the heavy armor Malgus wears would play a larger role in the martial part of the combat , small metal chains and pieces of leather would almost be a joke against that type of armor imho , and if Malgus decided to just grab that stuff directly ( which given the heavy armor around his forearms he could do ) , then Lumiya would be kind of screwed and her weapon would turn into her demise. Luke and Mara and the rest , had problems against her weapon because , they had to avoid the phisical part of the weapon on top of the enrgy part , with Malgus , just 1 good grab and its instadeath for her i think.

[@DanieleMulas-up7np]

42:03 That honestly sounds like an advanced application of Tutaminis alongside Doppelganger illusion. Or in the very least, a Force barrier, similar to what Worror did before dying to protect Johun Othone from Bane's lightning on Tython.

[@DanieleMulas-up7np]

@luke greensaber Gemini I accept your olive branch gladly lol Here, I definetely rooted for Malgus. Lumiya is devious and cunning, but she's not made for all-out battles.

[@savagenature1]

Some possible battles for Darth Malgus: Darth Vader: Jensaarai1 did a great analysis of Vader versus Malgus years ago, but there were some important factors left out that could change the verdict. First, there is my own personal theory that Malgus overcame his tunnel vision, given how it hasn't been used against him since his loss to Satele (correct me if I'm wrong). And most importantly, he did not mention Malgus' Force Malestrom which Vader doesn't have a counter to and it would have defended him against Vader's telekinetic attacks. Darth Bane: Though Bane is generally held in higher regard, I think Malgus would defeat him due to the fact that Malgus is a seasoned warrior with multiple Jedi kills to his name while Bane had had only a handful of serious duels. That being said, those duels were against high caliber force wielders, so this could be interesting. Anakin Skywalker: Anakin may have better lightsaber technique, but I think Malgus would win due to his greater experience and use of Force abilities during combat, but it would still be fun to analyze Kyle Katarn: Do I really need to explain why this would be an interesting fight? Shaak Ti or Plo Koon: Blade to blade, I could see it going either way with either combatant, but I'm not sure how well either of them could handle Malgus' force abilities

[@brianjohnson5272]

If a Jedi/sith survives 2 or 3 fights with lumiya her lightwhip style becomes useless. Luke hears she back and says "I guess I need to get my shoto." This proves 2 things about lumiya's style. First if you live though the encounter she's not likely to get the edge twice. Second Jar-kai style fighting used properly can counter and even beat her IF you've fought her before. I would also note lumiya had her cybernetic butt handed to her the last three duels and Luke just let her go for reasons (he's the Jedi grandmaster he not just gonna straight up nuke her).

[@lukewarren9069]

Great work Evan.

[@kconroy4617]

I think Mara Jade and Jaina Solo Fel should be in more of your awesome videos!

[@EvanNova95]

K Conroy Stay tuned. ;)

[@deadponic117]

Hi Evan, I've been wanting to get this together for a while now, but after you've finished with the Mini-Marathon, would you be interested in a podcast talking about certain topics regarding specific star wars characters? here's a list of potential topics: -Darth Vader is not 100% Powerful -Mace Windu character analysis -potential matchups featuring personal favourite characters -obscure force abilities -Analyzing duels from non-film Star Wars media (books, Tv, video games and comics) if you are interested please let me know as I plan to ask everyone in the council forcecast If they are interested, I'm also interested in interviewing every member of the Council regarding their stance on specific aspects of the star wars lore and any other franchises they are fans of.

[@TheBekken9500Isback]

I really wish you uploaded more often. Seriusly. Love you evan.

[@benjaminjones2185]

Playing on their pain of loosing so many friends and their secret fascination with the darkside seems to be the go to for alot of the darkside idiots the dark times. Count Dicku, Sora Bulkhead, and Jason Stullo and I'm sure I missing at least two.

[@thorshammer7883]

What do you think could of happened in the Expanded Universe had the story continued past the death of Darth Krayt how would the future of the galaxy unfold and how would you make it?

[@TrajGreekFire]

It's called Legacy vol. 2

[@ThatDragonGuy]

Probably Sith Empire vs Galactic Triumvirate. The new Solo discovers her force powers and get a lightsaber.

[@waiserwal2045]

Great video as always. How about Revan vs. Exar Kun?

[@javierlopez9789]

Exar Kun would win in a lightsaber fight

[@davidbaker6232]

Assuming that the Ilum arcs of every playable character in SWTOR is happening at the same time then Malgus was fighting all of those characters and depending on your play style their crews of companions as well.

[@rrgale55]

I agree with your assessment.

[@nameless9573]

Good video as always

[@bryanx5829]

Wow this is a hard match to call both are incredibly strong.

[@ventusaccent6]

*treaty of corosant happens* Darth Malgus: It smell like b*tch in here

[@MastaKilla63]

Liked before I even started watching ;) I know this is gonna be good. I'll let you know what I think once I'm finished watching it :)

[@Freedomcobraclan]

Malgus wasn't freed from carbonite on Ossus. He was active again long before that, as Darth Acina had resurrected and kept him as a secret weapon long before that after the battle of Ilum. He's actually credited with having been the one who helped Acina take the throne.

[@Jedi_Spartan]

Great video. Any idea when the next Star Wars Fanalysis video will be out and/or what it's about?

[@lordbyss1444]

Some spoilers for Naruto Shippuden: This dynamic reminds me of the fight between Sasuke Uchiha and Danzo in Naruto Shippuden. With Sasuke(at that point in his timeline) and Malgus being rage-fueled punching bags who tapered their raw power with a tactical mindset. And, Danzo and Lumia both being unorthodox fighters and grand scale manipulators who combine a rare skill set with esoteric techniques. The fight even ends in a way similar to what you described with Sasuke nullifying the benefits of the Isanagi by using his familiarity with the Sharingan and every other factor between the two of them being either a draw or tilted in Sasuke's favor.

[@zackthezabarak739]

Ven zallow vs Lucien Draay. Sylvar vs Arryn Leneer. Cal Kestis vs Darth Wredd. Ki adi mundi vs Agen Kolar. Kit Fisto vs Quigon Jinn. Quinlan Vos vs Wolf Sazen. Cay Qel Droma vs Teneb Kel. Arryn Leneer vs Depa Belaba. Barris offe vs Bulgar Swan. Antares Draco vs Jaden Korr. Galen mArek vs Sora Bulq.

[@DanieleMulas-up7np]

Very interesting match ups. - Draay, though Zallow can contend. - Leneer - Wredd. Cal was able to contend with two Inquisitors and a Dark Jedi. Wredd is basically a more batshit insane Malicos. - I'd say Mundi - Hard to say - Hard to say, but my bet is on Quin. - Cay, unless Teneb Kel pulls a dirty trick. - Not sure - Bultar Swan

[@brianrunyon266]

Cool. Both are great fighters. Malgus might be able to win, though the Lightwhip would be a challenge for him.

[@brianjohnson5272]

You also stated that a single blade could counter her whip if sufficiently skilled. Malgus has that in spades AND to spare. He is minimum council level AND a sith. So malgus would WRECK her especially because her hide tendrils would be less that flea bites to him even on his face the only real point they could hit.

[@michaeldavis9194]

An interesting match up for Malgus would be against Galen Marek considering how similar Vader and Malgus are. With Malgus being more agile and not as weak against force lightning as Vader could Malgus stand a chance against Marek

[@thomastimbs4307]

I like Star Wars and The sith who are the coolest bad guys

[@eKoV11]

Love these vids...

[@heavenlyking8386]

I mean losing to the ancestor of 2 of the greatest jedi and 1 of the greatest sith to ever exist is hardly a thing to be ashamed of

[@zackthezabarak739]

Count Dooku vs Darth Malak. Darth Maul vs Lucien Draay. Darth Wredd vs Quinlan Vos. Darth Azard vs Lucien Draay. Darth Nihl vs Cay Qel Droma. A’Sharad Hett vs Quinlan Vos. Anakin Skywalker ( Padawan) vs K’KRUHK ( I concede that Anakin has more power and natural talent, but K’Kruhk’s physiology, emotional stability and experience evens the field.)

[@BlackSteelKeyChain]

Always had respect for lumiya but before watching this I thought it would've be a one sided slaughter in Malgus' favor but after this I'm now confident in my shear admiration for Lumiya.

[@zackthezabarak739]

Who is a good match for Antares Draco? Lucien Draay? Ki Audi Mundi? Quinlan Vos? Quigon Jinn? Wolf Sazen?Darth Azard? Darth Nihl? Darth Maul? Darth Malak? Jaden Korr?

[@exile1029]

If one goes into stasis like Malgus or Revan you stay the same age you were when you went into stasis but your power in the force can grow.

[@TheStrudelJonny]

Why does it seem that everyone serving under Vader ends up losing limbs and being replaced with cybernetic transplants lol

[@thorshammer7883]

How powerful are Old Republic Force Users compared to New Republic Force Users in power in the Expanded Universe?

[@KingNazaru]

My boy Malgus bringing the W.

[@zackthezabarak739]

Darth Malak vs Malgus. Yes I know Connor did that a few years ago but you always have your own spin on thing.

[@micaiahflores1592]

Holy shit you said my name right on the first attempt you sir are in the top 10% of the world that can do that ❤️❤️❤️👏👏👏🙃🙃🙃

[@Orion-Olaron]

When I saw the thumbnail I quickly concluded in my own head Malgus would win against Lumiya, but it would not be an easy fight. Edit: I still watched the whole video as I wanted to see Evan's full opinion.

[@alphawolf8503]

You should rank all skywalkers (including solos) weakest to strongest I would really like to see that

[@lapplandkun9273]

Bottom tier Rey Kylo ren There, I started it off

[@zacharyclapp1072]

0:00 To paraphrase another KZbinr that I have recently started watching: This guy tanked a mountain busting blast at point blank to the face, then dug himself out of that mountain and killed 2 Jedi, all while in base form. Lumiya would die!

[@ariesstorm9577]

When Evannova95 is firm in his belief that the Jedi Malgus defeated were lesser than the Jedi Lumiya fought: “Unfortunately the debate is not over!” 😂 Even though you’re probably right I did pause and think about it. Granted Luke Skywalker is superior overall but would Tresina Lobi seriously be on the level of Ven Zallow or Kao Cen Darach, let alone higher? Either way looking forward to the verdict and right now I don’t know who will win between these two. Looking forward to the next match. Stay safe 🙂👍🏻

[@rakshithanand8262]

I mean, both Ven and Kao were distracted or tired at the time, Kao more than Ven, so maybe he didn't see them as fighting at 100%? Darach would probably demolished malgus 1v1.

[@gerardocovarrubias1127]

Do you think you can make more Star Wars versus series like Anakin Skywalker versus Luke Skywalker or Yoda Mace Windu vs well you name them

[@dylanllanes6737]

TCW vs NJO council members (excluding Grandmasters). Kyle Katarn, Kyp Durron, and Corran Horn vs Mace Windu, Obi-Wan(?), and Shaak-Ti(?) (Or whatever TCW Jedi who won't be outclassed immediately).

[@wristofkings]

That's an interesting idea. My money is on the NJO team though not because of any real deficiencies on the Old Republic side, but because Kyp is massively OP as a Force user. Swap him for Saba Sebatyne or Mara Jade and it's a bit more even.

[@jessemaynard6123]

Darth Malgus is the Darth Vader of his time during The Old Republic.