this boyo is gonna wax about his big bith brain forever

I’d rank Mara above Cade since while he has the advantage in Force abilities, Mara is the better duellist since she fought Lumiya to a draw twice, was on par with Corran Horn and is a veteran of the Yuuzhan Vong War whereas Cade was only able to stalemate Darth Talon and had to use his Force abilities to win and only crossed blades with Darth Krayt once in their final duel.

Wasn't Vandar Tokare from KotOR a Grandmaster, or am I not remembering properly?

Cool story.

One thing to notice is that Darth Revan has never destroyed an Sith Empire Vader Has. Revan was killed by a Jedi Strike Team by Bastila Sham who defeated Revan. While Vader has destroyed 200 Rebels giving the edge to Darth Vader even in that fight.

Clearly the Jedi were bored as hell by unintentionally creating a villain who would cause the Re Emergence of the sith

Vader is also far more Skilled in Saber combat and can even break the Force Barrier of and Force user for example Darth Sidious or Yoda.

All Vader needs to win is To Force crush metal below Malaks feat. And crush every bone on his body he even use two lightsabers one being a force saber and one of his own to win the Battle.

Actually the kaiburr crystal isn’t a Sith artifact and Mimban didn’t have a Sith Temple

I highly disagree sidious was stated to be the most powerful sith ever and yes even above Krayt. Even in his prime full power. while I don’t think he would have an easy fight by any means he would still win.

Ah si ultimo! Un Sith ese comer Sidious!

I honestly don't see Cade as having put up a better fight than Wyyrlock III. Krayt was going for the kill against Wyyrlock and trying to recruit Cade, but despite Krayt going easy Cade was tossed around, while Wyyrlock put up a decent fight before losing to a deception. Vong Krayt was stronger than Wyyrlock (who is bathed in sweat after beating Andeddu) and Wyyrlock could at least fight Krayt Reborn. Granted, I think Wyyrlock grew stronger from betraying his master in sith tradition, but I still think the power-up Krayt got is not that monumental. Ultimately Prime Krayt's only big win is beating Wyyrlock in a dominant fight, that is not a stomp, with Wyyrlock huffing and puffing after beating a Bane-victim. Before that he is clearly relative to Karness Muur who is below other siths of his own time, below the ancient sith like Marka Ragnos and below the likes of Malak. In general I think recurring characters like Muur, Andeddu or even say Aurra Sing fighting Darth Caedus for a bit, really put the whole power-escalation or linear powerscaling into question. Heck, Krayt himself seemingly could not even rip information out of Bane's holocron, asking it instead and got humiliated by Andeddus ghost too.

I kind of think of Darth Sion as also having the feats and scaling of Lucien Draay. While not the same character Haazen/Darth Haze was trying to convert Draay into a sith named Darth Sion, they share similar builds and amounts of rage and with the whole theme of prophecy in the story I do think it's implied that if Lucien had turned to the darkside he would have essentially been Darth Sion.

EvanNova95 he can use red lighting stop hating on Darth Tenebrous. He was 180 years old when he was training and sparring Darth Plagueis and Darth Venomous he was way out of his prime by then. He was filthy in his prime and he was a fast duelist just like Yoda was and he was just like Yoda in his old age. That’s why he lived to be 180 years old

Coleman kcaj, and Coleman Treborhave alwYs been so interesting to me