Which Power Supply is Right for You?

Today, I’m helping you determine which power supply you need to power your pedalboard. Whether you’re new to the pedalboard game or looking for a supply that will power multiple pedals with different power requirements, this video will put an end to your search for the ideal power supply!
PSUs mentioned in this video:
Voodoo Lab Pedal Power 2+: amzn.to/3mZWV2Y
MXR Isobrick: amzn.to/3srHeCY
Truetone CS6: amzn.to/2Qk1CZw
Truetone CS7: amzn.to/3aov7Ad
Truetone CS12: amzn.to/32rhxYH
Cioks DC7: amzn.to/3sGv0ql
Cioks 4: amzn.to/2QFAlAQ
Cioks 8: amzn.to/3aoOgSV
Strymon Zuma: amzn.to/3xc7jcD
Strymon Ojai: amzn.to/3x96NME
Voodoo Lab Pedal Power 3: amzn.to/3n3ztln
Voodoo Lab x4: amzn.to/2QGRTfD
Chapters:
00:00 - Introduction
02:12 - Linear vs. Switch Mode PSUs
04:01 - Customer 1: Beginner
06:24 - Customer 2: Intermediate
08:26 - Customer 3: Pro
12:23 - Budget Power Supply
12:57 - Best Value Power Supply
13:29 - The Rig Dr.'s Favorite PSU
14:44 - Conclusion
⬇️Private Tone Consulting from the Rig Dr. ⬇️
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⬇ RECOMMENDED MATERIALS ⬇
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//buffers//
Vertex DIY Buffers - vertexeffects.com/diy-buffer
Mesa Boogie High-Wire (dual buffer) - bit.ly/2lZwS0s
TC Bonafide Buffer (x2 input + output) - amzn.to/2vrTSug
Truetone Buffer (x2 input + output) - amzn.to/2NLDA8l
//power supply//
CIOKS 7 - amzn.to/3d4qOty
CIOKS 8 - amzn.to/2zW5YOn
CIOKS 4 - amzn.to/33jWAOZ
Strymon Zuma - amzn.to/3dpZANe
Strymon Zuma R300 - amzn.to/2ZgLclt
Truetone CS6 - amzn.to/2wWLbII
Truetone CS7 - amzn.to/2x1Nf2k
Truetone CS12 - amzn.to/33rfLq3
Voodoo Lab Pedal Power 3 - amzn.to/3asqK6r
IEC Plug Covers - bit.ly/34fpGl3
//dc power cables//
2.1mm DC Power Plugs (right angle) - bit.ly/2pGqXzI
2.1mm DC Power Plugs (straight) - bit.ly/36wd1sA
Bulk Power Cables (pre made) - amzn.to/3ev1q0t
//midi//
MIDI Plugs (right angle) - bit.ly/2oKHDFG
MIDI Plugs (straight) - bit.ly/32fNNLF
MIDI Cable (bulk) - amzn.to/2tPAHWQ
//velcro//
Vertex Super Lock - therigdr.com/collections/all/...
//cable management//
Zip Ties - www.therigdr.com/products/zip...
Tie Down Mounts - www.therigdr.com/products/tie...
Tone Essentials Kit - www.therigdr.com/products/ton...
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#PedalboardPowerSupply #PedalPower #RigDoctor

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Name some of your favorite power supplies (maybe ones that we didn't mention in this video)! BUY THE POWER SUPPLIES IN THIS VIDEO: Voodoo Lab Pedal Power 2+: amzn.to/3mZWV2Y MXR Isobrick: amzn.to/3srHeCY Truetone CS6: amzn.to/2Qk1CZw Truetone CS7: amzn.to/3aov7Ad Truetone CS12: amzn.to/32rhxYH Cioks DC7: amzn.to/3sGv0ql Cioks 4: amzn.to/2QFAlAQ Cioks 8: amzn.to/3aoOgSV Strymon Zuma: amzn.to/3xc7jcD Strymon Ojai: amzn.to/3x96NME Voodoo Lab Pedal Power 3: amzn.to/3n3ztln Voodoo Lab x4: amzn.to/2QGRTfD

[@christiancathcart4373]

Walrus Audio's Phoenix 120V??

[@TheCultureVultures.]

I'm interested in your Vertex Effects battery power supply... any plans to expand the range?

[@Naminorite]

Not a favorite (as I have no experience), but I have been looking at 'the GigRig' power supply versions recently and they look nice.

[@VertexEffectsInc]

@@christiancathcart4373 Linear supply with an aluminum chassis, not a match made in heaven for the purposes of electromagnetic shielding. If you use one, you need to keep it away from other pedals as much as possible.

[@VertexEffectsInc]

@@Naminorite to me, they're more of a consumer level solution that I don't see in practice or in the wild from other builders other than Daniel and The Gig Rig. It's desegregated into pieces, the AC mains come into their "Generator" and then into smaller pieces that provide the 9V outs all made of plastic, all the + and - leads are clamped and solderless (not ideal for the road or abuse). I don't see it as the best solution or even an ideal one in my experience and I think that's reflected as well by the body of pro rig builders that have been doing this for decades.

[@gregorioh7034]

Hey Mason I know this video is an older one. I’m older , learning to play guitar and looking at pedals. I wanted to let you know how helpful your videos are. Thanks for explaining all pedal topics.

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Thanks so much for the support!

[@Martin_Gregory]

It is so good, so important, for an expert to clearly state which one they ultimately prefer and why. Some people seem to shy away from stating what they think, I'm not sure why. Thanks for being clear what it is that you chose!

[@ssis2005]

Thank you for making this video. It was so helpful on my decision to buy the best power supply being a new pedalboard user. You are such a great communicator ! Thank you and all the best

[@VertexEffectsInc]

You're very welcome!

[@TheSideoutRocker]

Just got back into playing guitar and currently revamping/updating my pedal board. Came across your channel recently and you've been my go-to resource as I re-build my guitar pedal board. Great knowledge and info you share. So, thank you!

[@patrickcarroll1754]

You are hitting it out of the park lately, Mason. Love this series

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Thanks Patrick! Please share it out!!!

[@SundayMorningGuitars]

Hey Jason, Thank you for all your insightful videos. I’ve been slowly putting together my first pedalboard and just purchased a brand new Cioks 7 from reverb. I also purchased a TC electronics buffer based on another one of your videos! You’ve been a big help to a beginner with pedals like me 😊

[@lancecox8084]

I am using the CIOKS DC7 with a CIOKS 8 Expander on a Pedaltrain, it powers 18 pedals including a TC Electronics PLETHORA X5, no problems and plenty of power, of course it was not cheap.

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Having the best power supplies out there is worth the extra cost IMO, great insurance policy for your pedals and keeping them regulated properly.

[@royalsounds4625]

Thanks Brother! I was leaning towards the Cioks, this video sealed the deal!

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Glad I could help!

[@jasonmoore3437]

Why do these things never have power on/off switches?

[@niknik793]

I think it’s because it would cause unwanted noise whenever switching them on while the amp is on. You could just switch them on before you’re gonna use them but that’s my best guess.

[@jonnyr1984]

All mine have switches, but mine are CAE MC 403. They're huge, but spectacular

[@chrishannon9063]

I’ve had a Truetone CS7 for a while and love it! When my board got bigger, I just added another. I spliced together 2 iec ends in a Y configuration with a powercon connector mounted to my board to power them both and it all works beautifully.

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Cool! Those are nice supplies!

[@thefalcon666]

Wasted my time checking out a couple other videos before I found this one. It was exactly what I was looking for! Thanks!!

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Glad it helped!

[@FrozenCharlottes]

I can't tell you how much I (and subsequently my pedal boards) have benefitted from your videos throughout the years, but this video is pure GOLD! Absolutely awesome information. I was blown away by Cioks at NAMM a few years ago, but really just by how compact they are, but I never really knew that the extent of their bad assery other than it works great and looks fantastic on my boards

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Thanks for watching! Glad you like the videos!

[@davius1911]

This video was just what I was looking for! I have been through soo many cheap power supplies, the only thing I have found that killed the hum in my place was a boss power supply (with a magnet) going through the matching noise suppressor... but its maxed out. Can't wait to try a high end power supply and expand!!

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Thanks for watching!

[@SuperBriansmoke]

I bought a TrueTone CS6 during a run of gigs last Christmas. I was previously running everything Daisy-chained off a Diago Powerstation (5A switch mode single supply). I managed to kick the Diago getting on stage and split the plastic casing. It managed to get me through the gig but it needed upgrading fast. I’d been using a GigRig isolator before my Drop pedal as a get around to get rid of noise. The Diago was a good solution for a while and lasted years, but it has powered its last gig. Luckily they had a TrueTone CS6 at my local store the next morning. It’s a great power supply. I’ve got isolated high current 9 volt lines. I can run my OCD Ge at 18 volts and I get no power supply related noise from any pedal. It’s made of steel, and is very low profile. I’ve got room to put other pedals on top of it and I have a single Kettle IEC cable powering everything with spare power lines if I need to expand. I’m Customer 2 by the way! I’d recommend this power supply to Number 1 or number 2 users.

[@PlectrumPao]

This really helps me make a sufficiently informed decision. Thank you!

[@VertexEffectsInc]

🙏🙏🙏

[@Ratchman_5000]

I went through this a year ago. After reading reviews and comparing prices till my eyes bled, I went with the Cioks 4. Then after acquiring more pedals I went with the Cioks dc7. Haven't had any noise issues whatsoever, which is what I expected from Jedi psu master Poul Ciok.

[@VertexEffectsInc]

They're greats supplies!

[@kevinmusso2397]

Mason… I don’t think there is anyone that offers info we need better than you. You are gold bro!

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Wow, thanks!

[@bobwlkr]

Excellent reviews and recommendations! Thank you!

[@timharrington4470]

You are absolutely a wealth of information. Thank you for making this video

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Our pleasure! Hope we earned your sub!

[@garymarini6654]

Wow, great information! I was using the Onespot pro on my small board for church. Shure stomp box wireless, volume pedal,BossOC5, Cloudburst and Kelley reverb to direct box. I developed apwhat sounds like a ground loop hum, like when ground is off on direct box. I grabbed a Onespot 1700 mil to check pedals one at a time and hum buzz was gone . I daisy chained from volume pedal through to Keeley and again , totally quiet . Order a Zuma R300, mounted under metro and plugged everything in and was silent at home thru my amp . Came to church , hooked into direct box and I have the same noise. We lost our projection before service on Sunday and when mid morning when they figured out the problem that’s when these issues began. I feel it has something to do with something back at the sound, projection area. I’m stumped on this . When I’m connected to direct box I believe I’m connected back to all the power in that area. I hope this makes some kind of sense. Any ideas to try and run down the problem would be amazing . For now I’m running the little one spots , two of them and it’s silent . Why would that be ? Thanks, Gary

[@KimberlyBowling]

I just found this channel and oh my god... amazing content and I’ve learned so much

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Glad to hear it!

[@paulwhite6310]

Thankyou for the video it helped me decide on MXR M238 ISO Brick Power Supply. Total newbie to all this stuff.

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Glad I could help

[@kameel68]

I had an MXR ISO Brick (b-stock). Lots of noise, so I returned it right away. Then I got the Cioks. Great stuff. Never regret switching to Cioks.

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Cioks is great!

[@tdrake59]

That was super informative. I learned a lot. Thanks very much.

[@VertexEffectsInc]

🙏🙏🙏

[@HowardFrischer]

Thank you once again. I have the DC7 & the 4.

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Wonderful supplies!

[@karl3349]

Thanks for the great information and explanation of the different power supplies!! I have been electric guitar for about 50 years, took a few years off, and recently started building my equipment up. I currently only have six pedals including a Dunlop Wah. I have been using a True tone 1Spot to power the pedals. The 1Spot is nice, but if my guitar cable crosses the pedal board, I get some hum, especially on the gain channels. Really thinking of stepping up to one of the better Truetone CS 6 or CS7 power supplies you mentioned! Thanks for the great information!! Karl

[@guilhermemartins2022]

I really liked your video, very complete and informative, and objective. I'm looking to buy one of these systems. thank you very much

[@petruccirocks02]

Powering my board with a Cioks 7 and Cioks 4. Badass low profile setup with a ton of power and voltage options.

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Yes Indeed

[@RobinsonRDavid]

I’m a rookie. I got the Voodoo Lab 2 you recommended. Multiple 9v DC pedals with minimal draw. I like the sag capabilities. Your videos have been a big help in putting together my first board. Thanks.

[@VertexEffectsInc]

SAG capabilities really only do half of what a real battery does. Voltage on a carbon battery isn't constant, it's always degrading in voltage and the SAG doesn't do current limiting which is a big part of these high impedance power sources.

[@RobinsonRDavid]

@@VertexEffectsInc Before you brought back your 9v supply, I bought the Danelectro 9v supply as recommended at the time. : )

[@andredegiant3876]

CS-6 owner here! Perfect for my current board but, I'm planning to go to a bigger board and this helped a ton 👍

[@VertexEffectsInc]

🙏🙏🙏

[@standodge5536]

My first PSU is a Trutone CS6 I really like it! It’s slim enough to fit under my pedal train metro 24. Wah plus 5 pedals. You’re good to go! They include cables! Really nice!

[@VertexEffectsInc]

They’re great!

[@standodge5536]

I saw your video on splitting cables. What a great idea! I’m buying 2 to try it out because I have plenty of room for more pedals. I like your content, very informative!

[@gabrielguzmann1ufo905]

Thanks for this great and informative video! I’m a new guitar player at the young age of 51 and I like to purchase top of the line or as they say, buy now cry later LOL! CIOKS DC7 for me, your videos ROCK thanks!!!

[@phillipb9328]

Awesome video. You the man, Mason.

[@VertexEffectsInc]

🙏🙏🙏

[@Naminorite]

Thanks a TON Mason. This was perfect information and perfect timing. I'm Person 1 however I think you must have read my e-mails to Vertexeffects and some of the power companies (i.e. Cioks). I will likely have more than the pedal count of your average VooDoo Lab however most of them will be standard boxes (i.e. BOSS BD-2, JHS Morning Glory, etc). This video was super helpful and the Vertexeffects e-mail team nailed it when they told me to watch KZbin today. This type of video only grows the pedal and pedalboard business as it opens doors to those who would want to get in but don't know how.

[@VertexEffectsInc]

🙏🙏🙏 thanks for watching and glad you found it helpful!

[@joybuzzer]

I built a new pedal board a few weeks ago, and needed my first "real" PSU, leaving the wall wart daisy chain behind. I have 11 pedals on my board atm, but that number is constantly changing as I swap stuff in and out as I decide what I like. I started with a CS7 with the plan to use a few daisy chains on my overdrive pedals, but at the end of the day the CS7 wasn't enough for 10+ pedals. I exchanged the CS7 for a CS12 a few days later and now I couldn't be happier.

[@VertexEffectsInc]

They’re wonderful!

[@stratosexual1329]

I’m going to go ahead and pre-thumbs up this video!👍🏼

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Thanks! Hope it delivers for you!

[@MrSpeed-lt8gr]

Thank you for posting this, Mason. I’ve been using an old Voodoo Lab Pedal Power 2 which isn’t ideal with my board since I have a couple of Strymon pedals. I’ve noticed a fair amount of noise with my board.

[@VertexEffectsInc]

It may not be the supply could be other stuff. Of the linear supplies the Pedal Power 2 is the best you can do shielding wise.

[@MrSpeed-lt8gr]

@@VertexEffectsInc thank you for the info. I don’t know what’s causing the noise. Maybe it’s just inevitable with using multiple overdrives and a compressor? Would a power supply like the Cioks or One Spot make it more quiet?

[@VertexEffectsInc]

@@MrSpeed-lt8gr Depends on the source and cause of the noise issue.

[@cpfs936]

I've got the Pedal Power 3 Plus. HX Effects w/current doubler takes 2 spots, but works fine so far. The way I've figured it, I can pretty much power anything I'll ever need, and use that 250ma output for my buffers.

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Nice!

[@basslines_az]

Super helpful. Thanks!

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Glad it was helpful!

[@riffnastyhubanks5714]

You are an absolute Chad ma dude thanks for the information and keep it coming. Cheers from TXDM and ME

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Glad it was useful!

[@petrvm]

Great content!!! Hands down for Cioks DC7 best power in my board ever!

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Yes indeed!!!

[@zachweeks299]

I just bought your new Tour Compact board and was looking at the mounting holes and it didn’t look like there was a way to mount my Cioks 8 to the second tier. I am using the 8 in connection with the DC7. Won’t be able to build the board until Monday or so but I am stoked. I built my previous board soldering my own cables and using you methods and am excited to do this next one. This time I’m moving on to also soldering my DC cables to custom length.

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Yes, you can use the mounting pattern that they provide for a Pedaltrain and just drill through the top of the riser. Just make sure that it won't impede anything below it.

[@wilmer33086]

I decided to go with the Zuma from Strymon. I love the Ciosk, flexibility from 9v-18v on each output but I don’t like that it’s RCA outputs (not your std or typical output connectors) but having a USB to charge anything that’s a big Plus + on top of that it’s cheaper than the Zuma. Overall both are great, all depends on your needs. Thanks Uncle Mason!!!

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Thanks for watching!

[@dude_crush_]

My board is massive and it needs 25 isolated Outputs so I'm going with the Voodoo Lab Pedal Power 3 Plus along with two Voodoo Lab Pedal Power X8. It'll cut down to having to use just 1 IEC Cable and it'll also make the rig less noisy. Before I was using the Voodoo Lab Pedal Power Mondo and CIOKS DC 10. Time for an upgrade!

[@mironoskroba8637]

In my case the height of the box plays a pivotal role. When dealing with 2.9-3.2[cm] space to the floor I decided to choose Cioks DC7 which is 2.6cm height so it would fit perfectly. Velcro tapes add 1-2mm to the equation, depending on the squeeze level and base thickness - worth mentioning.

[@mgbaron]

I've used both the Strymon and the CIOKS systems. Both are great, but I love how slim the CIOKS is. Great for an under board/riser setup.

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Yes, very convenient

[@ryanmbisson]

Great recommendations and video. I used the CS-12 for years, went to the Zuma and quickly back to the CS-12; it’s a great supply. I have moved to the GigRig power system and couldn’t be happier. It’s pricey but if a silent board matters to you than I’d highly recommend it. I’ve never had such a quiet board, and my pedals have never been so happy. Doc, I’d love to see/hear your thoughts on the GigRig system, I think you’d really dig it. It’s the right call for your Travel Plus board.

[@VertexEffectsInc]

I've seen them in person, it's not on the level of the Strymon, Cioks, Voodoo Lab 3 type stuff and the clamped +/- to me is a risky proposition for road guys or pedalboards that will undergo exposure to the elements. I'm not saying it won't work or delivery the voltages correctly, it's just a consumer level solution to me and I think that's why you really only see it used by The Gig Rig practitioners in the professional circles of rig builders.

[@ryanmbisson]

@@VertexEffectsInc - I can’t argue that since I have only started using it in COVID times; no shows, no real movement. But I’ll let you how it holds up once we are back playing shows and going from rainy to desert climates and back. Ha Ha. As for power and isolation, it’s great. Like I said, I haven’t been happier. But I do love the CS-12! And highly recommend it. It’d still be powering my board if I had bought the next size board above the Travel Plus. Cheers dude, and thanks.

[@xMIKELONGx]

I got the Voodoo Lab Pedal Power 3 plus over the weekend . The old mounts for the Pedal Power 2 Plus still work for the Voodoo Lab Pedal Power 3 Plus with my PedelTrain - 1 ( with a little adjusting )

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Amazing! They are great supplies! The best Voodoo Lab yet.

[@adanedhel16]

Great video! How do you know if a power supply is linear or switch mode?

[@KoiOrushima]

Build my first pedalboard a few weeks ago went with the MXR iso brick. As I'm diving into more of the pedal world, I love the possibility of the Cioks. For now my Iso Brick is awesome though

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Those are still great supplies no doubt!

[@Utassohn]

I'm using the Palmer PWT12. Great device!

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Cool!

[@vandal_dk]

Completely agree with Cioks being the best out there. I’m so happy with mine. It’s also great when you change a pedal on the board the draws different voltage. You don’t have to change cables or move stuff around, just flip a switch and you’re good to go.

[@VertexEffectsInc]

It’s a great feature!

[@joecoombsguitarist]

For anyone who is interested you can use the AC out of the CS12 to power the Cioks 4 expander, you’ll only get 100ma on it each output because of the lower current of the AC output but it’s great to power 4 low current overdrives etc

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Nice! Didn't realize that!

[@RJW14]

I've had a pedal power 2 for years and years. It never fails, it never interferes, and just powers the few pedals I got. If I ever get more pedals (honestly, more like when) I'll look into other options.

[@VertexEffectsInc]

if you're going linear, it's the best option because it's a steel chassis. Subsequent versions are not.

[@charlesromano7463]

I actually just purchased a Friedman Power Grid 10 got it for a great price and is perfect for my small bass rig

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Cool!

[@regaudieguillaume]

Thank you! And what about powering the power supplies? Is it important? Can any powerbar can do the trick? Thanks :)

[@benlindsey5721]

I have the Mondo from a build years ago. I eventually had to move it to the top corner of the board from underneath (pedaltrain) to eliminate noise. Works great so still not ready to pull the trigger on a switch mode supply.

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Switch mode is the way - you can get the new Pedal Power 3

[@devinsinderwitcz9134]

Fender LVL8 and LVL12, all 500mA outputs with 2 selectable on each from 9v, 12v, 18v.

[@glennkearney7829]

love your knowledge

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Thanks for watching!

[@markwilliamson6562]

Is there a PSU like the cs12 that will have both 9vdc and 9vac outputs but were the AC output can support a digitech whammy? fairly sure it needs 1300mA and the CS12 only has 800mA 9VAC output. It is the only high current pedal I actually use.

[@noahkachelski7880]

Any suggestions if one wanted to power an HX stomp and Shure GLDX16 on the same board? Both companies suggest using the included power cables, but it isn't really conducive to a compact board.

[@shanekelderman1457]

Rig Doctor! You've helped me build my own buffer, do my own custom patch cables, and my own power cables. I'm super appreciative! My board is running great all except my Eventide Timefactor. I've put it into the 5-6 with dip switches away from normal through a current doubling cable. Any recommendations on how I can power my Eventide?

[@VertexEffectsInc]

You need a 2.5mm barrel connector going into the Eventide and you may need a reverse polarity tip as well.

[@ltsmash1200]

I was originally going to go with the Zuma/Ojai but just got a deal on a Cioks DC-7 so now I’m going with that and a C4 or C8 which will be cool because it gives me way more flexibility to go with different voltages. Most of my pedals run at 9v but can run higher and I want to play around with running some at 12 and 18.

[@VertexEffectsInc]

It's a great choice!

[@MrNobody-fk7fc]

I just purchased a DC10 used from Musician's Friend. I hope it comes with everything I need. I don't want to have to drill holes, or purchase various other components just to affix it to my board...Otherwise, i'm excited to have one!

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Enjoy!

[@rbroderick]

Always enjoy your posts like this. One thing I was curious about is each of these power supplies have power cords located in different locations (back, side, middle) etc. is there a preference as to where you run the power cord from the power supply? The left side since most people are right footed? The center of your board?

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Typically I try to isolate them in the opposite corner whatever foot you used to operate the Pedalboard, it’s not as critical now as it used to be but in the old days with linear supplies you had to be very careful about where a WAH fit in relationship to the power supply because of the problems with the inductor in proximity to the transformer in the power supply. With switch mode this is less important, but typically you want to orient the AC cable so that it’s exiting with a clear path to the wall and not obstructed by other devices.

[@ottodiazo]

Great video! Could you help me out with some additional info? - Is the Voodoo lab power pedal x8 switch mode or linear? Can't seem to find that info anywhere, thanks!

[@mikecorey8370]

I built a new pedal board this week. I learned Dunlop/MXR pedals do not like to share. Daisy-Chaining is not going to work. Bought the Pedal Power 2. It's sitting on top of the board at the moment. Keeley compressor, NUX Plexi overdrive, Fender delay, MXR Echoplex, Dunlop Reverb. Zero noise. FYI-the Dunlop/MXR pedals have to plugged into the 250 ma outputs. Don't know why but that's the way it is. Works perfectly. I'm hooking up a MXR Phase 95 so we'll see how that does.

[@VertexEffectsInc]

It will depend on 1) if the pedal is analog or digital 2) if the pedal has a clock 3) proximity to the linear power supply (in some cases). We have a video on this and how to parallel pedals effectively and how to choose which pedals to best combine - I think it's titled "Maximizing Your Power Supply" or something like that.

[@shashankraman2512]

Exactly what I've been looking for! Did you get a chance to read about the FENDER ENGINE ROOM LVL12 POWER SUPPLY? Should I wait for it to be in stock or go for the Zuma? I am looking for 12 ports all at 9V & also have the option to daisy chain 3 pedals (tuner & ODs) if I am to go for the Zuma.

[@VertexEffectsInc]

I know about it, unfortunately I haven't been able to get one from Fender. The options seem good, I've not tested it to see how it compares in the field. The Zuma is a sure thing, USA made, good pedigree. You can always add the Ojai to get 4 more outputs

[@Gtrmanify]

super helpful thanks.

[@VertexEffectsInc]

🙏🙏🙏

[@lefteriscomposer]

Thank you for the wonderful information on your channel! Question: Is the Voodoo Lab pedal power 3 plus a switch mode power supply? (so if put under the pedals there is no probability of noise). Thank you!

[@siegeism]

Wow this may be bring me closer to a major issue I've been having for years which for some reason is not addressed in the AV world, seems to be all in the audio world. My issue is that I have a portable DIT rig which comprises things like card readers, thunderbolt dock, two SSD drives, a small viewing monitor and of course my Macbook pro. I am trying fit all this into a 2U portable rack case, but the major issue is all those damn power bricks - they just don't fit anywhere and it's a total mess of plugs. I purchased a 300W HD plex linear power supply but at 10 Kilos it isn't portable and basically overkill for my needs. A clean signal as I'm transferring data is essential. I'm seriously going to look into a CIOKS type solution however I don't think I can use it for my Thunderbolt Pro Dock, AC Input, 100-240V, 50-60Hz, DC Output +12V, 15, Wattage 180, 1 Thunderbolt 3 port at 85W and 1 Thunderbolt 3 port with 15W. The thunderbolt dock is pretty small but the power brick is massive! like three times the size of my Macbook pro one. I just want all the DC plugs to go into one small unit then just one clean pug power plug.

[@matthewf1979]

I just ordered the Cioks Power Pack from Sweetwater. That’s one hell of a deal for a DC7 and an 8 bundle.

[@VertexEffectsInc]

They're great!

[@matthewf1979]

@@VertexEffectsInc I finished a complete rebuild of my entire board a few days ago. I don’t think there’s a better power supply made. I was having problems with a couple of transistor based fuzzes that were only alleviated with a battery. Every power supply I own injected noise into them, isolated/switch mode/linear, it didn’t matter. The DC7/8 fixed it too. My digital effects are even quieter. Thank you for the recommendation!

[@marzbitenhaussen]

cioks is pricey but the best, what I like is the super low profile, super light weight and cables style and expandability

[@suede__]

As far as I can tell is the cheapest expandable supply. The Zuma and Pedal Power 3 are the other expandable ones that cost more.

[@bems5066]

Thanks a lot for sharing your experience!! The Cioks has cinch connector on one side which is different from the standard, so is it possible to make a custom cable following you video "How To Make Custom Power Cables" ?

[@VertexEffectsInc]

To expand, sure - you can do this in a similar fashion so long as you get the right plug and the polarity matches.

[@Danicep88]

Muchas gracias por esa increíble recomendación, ¿Que tal es la Mini ISO breack de MXR?

[@Bluesman788]

In all of your pedalboard builds, you talk about using the molded end of the power cable at the pedal end, and soldering connectors on the power supply end. What do you use for the connections to the Cioks power supplies, which use RCA connectors? Thanks.

[@VertexEffectsInc]

I use Switchcraft RCA's. Same ones they used on older Fender amps.

[@suiradleinad]

You’re killin it! I’m planning to build a board with HX Stomp on it. What PS would fit my need? I’m gonna add 4-5 pedals with it.

[@VertexEffectsInc]

You could use a Truetone CS7

[@kosycat1]

I just got one of your battery supplies. I have a fuzz face, Octavia, Scrambler clone, and vox wah that I needed to tame. I can't figure out if my Walrus Aetos is a switching power supply or not, but it works out because I was running out of power outputs anyway, hoping it does the trick for my old school pedals.

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Walrus is linear.

[@dgroat1]

Hey Mason, these videos are great and I’m finding them really helpful for building knowledge about pedal board do’s and dont’s. I’m relatively new to working with pedals and so your videos are spot on. I’m getting a Pedaltrain Novo 18 in a few weeks as a birthday gift and will be mounting a Line6 HX Effects unit, a Two Notes Torpedo CAB M+ and an EHX Holy Grail Max pedal. I’ve done lots of other research and think the TrueTone CS6 or CS7 would be a great option for powering them (handling the extra draw required from the HX Effects without the need for a current doubler). I’ve tried to find the info online but with no success - in your experience, do you know if a standard mounted C7 would fit ok under the Novo 18 or if I’d need to go for the C6? And in terms of max current output, do you think the 1600mA from the CS6 would leave me with enough headroom if I wanted to add one or two more pedals later on (I think the HX Effects typically needs about 900-1000mA, the Two Notes needs 140-200mA and the Holy Grail Max needs about 80mA, so suspect I would be ok) or would I be more future proofed in getting the CS7? Thanks in advance for any advice you can give.

[@VertexEffectsInc]

I don't use Pedaltrain boards so I don't know anything about their sizing. Most pedals draw less than 100 mA for analog distortion, OD, Boost, etc. depends on what you think you might add will determine if you have sufficient current.

[@jwnrocks]

What a great rundown of power sources! I’m about to embark on a new pedalboard setup, and your advice was just what I needed. I’m looking at the VooDoo Lab Dingbat PX board for the base. The Cioks 7 spoke to me because of the voltage selection, but I want to mount the power under the board which makes the power consumption readout a “turn the board up” scenario. I’m not sure I really need that much info, but do you have a suggestion for another set up? I don’t want to take up pedal space for a power supply, and I like the switching of the PX. Again, great video, as well as all the others I’ve watched!

[@VertexEffectsInc]

I’m not sure I understand the problem

[@jwnrocks]

@@VertexEffectsInc I’m sorry. I’m planning to mount the power supply under the board so the meter wouldn’t be visible from above. Now that I’m thinking about it more, maybe that really doesn’t matter since you will only test the load when you’re mounting all the pedals, and turning them all on at once. After that test I guess there’s no need for further monitoring unless you change/add pedals again. I probably answered my own question. Thanks.

[@JASONBRAIDWOOD]

Really helpful video! Just straight to the point. Although it's painful spending so much on a decent power supply when you could buy another couple of pedals which unfortunately is what most of us do instead and have them all buzzing like fuck 😂. The cioks dc7 sounds awesome 🤘

[@MrTaroo1]

Hi folks. I love your content and thank you so much. A wealth of knowledge. I’m building a second board. A carry on board for fly out gigs. Thank you in advance as I am in need of some serious advice. I have a larger board where I run it with the classic Voodoo Lab 2. This has served me well since 2006/7. I’ve been all over the net looking for advice to my question here & no one has any content. Hence my straight up question with this new build is! I am on a budget on this one. Well!!! The power supply anyway. I will be upgrading ASAP. But the gear on the board was not on a budget. But for now my big question is (what are your thoughts on the Carson multi voltage?) 7 DC 100mA output jacks. 1 DC9V 500mA Jack. 1 DC 12V 100mA Jack. 1 DC 18V 100mA Jack. To give you a road map of my board so it helps here you go. The order you see them in here is how I will run them (guitar in P-Split & out after the Slo reverb). I have a Lehle P-Split. (Not needing Carson). Peterson Strobe. (Battery powered). Power Screamer (HBE). Compact RD from Origin. Freidman OD. Broken arrow. Heavy Water. (Thorpy). Soul Vibe (BBE). Slo reverb. So at this stage only (4) are needing the Carson to power up the devices. Be straight as I already know that the Carson may be very well punching above it’s weight. But this friends is what I have to with with for now. What say you? Lee ☺️✊🏽👍🏽.

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Never heard of the Carson.

[@MrTaroo1]

@@VertexEffectsInc thank you for getting back mate. A cheaper brand obviously that hasn’t got its name out into the world as yet I shall surmise then. Thanks again & I’ll see you down the track. Lee.

[@valerioantognelli3913]

Hi Mason thank you so much for this video about power supply, it’s a such clear explanation! Just a question: I’m building my first pedalboard for a saxophone and one pedal of it work on 24 volt , others 9 volt and 2 at 12. Just 10 pedals, do you think it is possible to use just one power supply? By your review seems good the Cioks dc 10. Thank you! Valerio.

[@VertexEffectsInc]

I would stick with the Switch Mode Supplies like the Cioks 4, 7, and 8 and you can combine them off a single AC input into something like the Cioks 7 and expand with small jumper cables to add a Cioks 4 or 8. They all have switchable voltages between 9-18V and for 24 you can just use a voltage doubler cable with two output set to 12V.

[@jojo9535]

Need help! Just purchased Templeboard Duo 24 and am considering either Voodoo 2 Plus or MXR 238 Iso. I have 6 Boss pedals (and Boss FS-7) and a Dunlop Wah. I think either power supply would be fine but the input 120V power cord on the Voodoo seems like it would be more durable. Currently using Boss PSA-120's (2 of them) with daisy chains and seems like I'm getting a lot of noise from them. I also considered a power supply with fewer outputs and using a daisy chain. Thank you.

[@VertexEffectsInc]

The newer ISO bricks are a good solution as they’re switch mode and won’t cause noise like a linear supply will if placed under a pedalboard.

[@chronicmango]

I’m a kinda... mix of customer 2 & 3, but I went with the Cioks cause it was future proofed. Glad I did, cause I’ve already found it useful.

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Great supply!

[@joepeezy4sheezy]

What makes it future proof?

[@chronicmango]

@@joepeezy4sheezy its expandability and flexibility. Like Mason mentions in the video, you can select any voltage on any channel and you can add extensions if you need to. That means that pretty much any pedal except for a 24V pedal can go on my board without having to buy a whole new power supply. And If I want to upgrade to a bigger board with more pedals, I can simply add on an extension to power any pedals I add.

[@joepeezy4sheezy]

@@chronicmango wow that is pretty great! I have a boss rc3 loop station that gives some hiss and I keep wondering if it’s my pedal power 4x4 making the noise (it’s fairly close to the supply).

[@johnnygreenway3579]

Have you heard of a brand called SanJune? One of their units has 12 outlets but the adapter going into the unit and then outvto the wall says 12V. Most say 18V. Am I missing something here?

[@kevmac1230]

I own a few including big names such as,Voo Doo Lab ,Cioks and and Walrus Audio. But my bang for the buck choice is the Alctron OCT 500. Look it up, it offers good clean, switchable iso power with many of the features you need at an incredible price.

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Where?

[@kevmac1230]

@@VertexEffectsInc I bought mine about a year ago from Reverb.Last time I checked they had a site also.6 inputs that do 12 or 9v and one 18v.I bought it because it was under $90 at the time.It has served me well though and would recommend it to a friend. YMMV. Keep up the fine work.

[@rafaelaparicio9682]

I have a thomann/Harley benton powerplant iso2-pro. They go for 69€. They are isolated and can power stuff for up to a total of 2000mA. 8 outputs. 6 are 9v up to 300mA. 2 are 9/12 18v up to 500mA. I think it's a sweet deal for my largish size board of up to 10 pedals: tuner, octave, compressor, line selector, dirt, flanger, chorus, boost, delay and reverb. I still have to get the reverb and chorus... and I also want to upgrade my cabling to better quality cable and at least partially squareplugs. Anything I should be aware of? Thanks

[@VertexEffectsInc]

I haven't compared them yet, perhaps soon. Squareplugs are great!

[@johnktistis]

i used to have voodoo lab 2 plus and i sold it because i wanted more pedals and and 2 of them that needs 12v. Anyway my only question is the following: I am between voodoo power 3+ and cioks 7 or strymon zuma.. I love strymon as a company but the most important thing for me is not to lose any sound quality by chossing the switch type of power supply. Is there any chance that the switch type power supply affects somewhat to the quality of the sound? Or somewhat to change it and feel more digital? i have BB preamp and 2 overdrive 1, one fuzz and 2 reverb pedals. I also have the timeline and i will also buy the big sky... I was happy with voodoo lab 2 plus and im afraid that this might change now that i need more voltages and more outputs if i choose switch mode... p.s. i only ask for the good quality power supplies -> 1)voodoo 3 plus 2) ciocks 7 and 3) strymon zuma. Thanks a lot

[@VertexEffectsInc]

All those are good.

[@mariobarrela]

Thanks a lot for your tips. I have a Pedal Power 2 for lots of years and a Strymon Ojay. But what power supply can power a Digitech EX-7 it’s 9V but AC?

[@VertexEffectsInc]

You can mod it for DC or the Truetone CS12 can do it.

[@sonicthesavageturkey]

Im looking to build a pedalboard with 15 9 volt pedals. Would it be better to get the truetone cs 12 and daisy chain 2 pedals to 1 output, or should i spend more money and get the cioks 7 and 8?

[@earthshaker61]

Hey Mason. Thanks for posting this. I’m more in #3 On my big main board I have the Zuma and Ojai Extention. Back in the day it was always the PP2+. I have an older Cioks DC10. Doesn’t have the meter like the newer versions. But I have it just lying around and am thinking about getting a smaller flat board and use it for that. Other than a few vintage 12v ACA Boss pedals nothing too fancy voltage wise for this build. My main question is Am I ok with mounting a pedal on top of the DC10?

[@VertexEffectsInc]

DC10 in linear...so keep that in mind.

[@earthshaker61]

Thanks Mason. I will keep that in mind. At the apartment I didn’t notice any extra noise by putting a pedal on top. But that might not be the case once I hook up another 6-7 pedals and get it up to stage level. Since it’s just laying around I figured I’d try and get some use out of it. Guess I could always sell it and get a non linear ps if it does start to get noisy. Thanks again

[@staticfuzzzz]

I have a question about single 9 volt adapters..I'm running 2 boards full of pedals. On my big board I have 2 power supplies (Pedal Power) mounted underneath with no noise or issues. On my 2nd board (it's much small) and doesn't really have room for a power supply, so I run just a few single 9volt adapters over to each pedal (*no daisy chaining involved). So the question is this.....when I use True Tone 9volt (single adapters) I get hum, but when I change to my Boss single 9volt adapters they don't that hum. Are the 1Spot True Tone 9 volt adapters a poor choice for powering a single pedal? Has anyone had issues with them (True Tone) powering up a single pedal?

[@VertexEffectsInc]

The Truetone wall wart can have some issues - it's a cheaper switching supply and in some instances can be noisy. I recommend getting an isolated supply.

[@IPv6Freely]

Thanks for this, I just bought the CS6 since I have a Darkglass Element that requires 250mA, which my current cheap-o power supply can't do.

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Enjoy! Thanks for watching Chris!

[@waynegram8907]

VERTEX, you should do a video about power conditioning because most power supplies don't have any power conditioning circuits/filters built internally which most people don't understand there differences between a power supply and a power conditioner. Various Lighting Systems for stages and the clubs/bar water compressor, air compressor, soda machine compressor, power tools will cause noises, harmonics, etc to be injected into the AC 120vac outlets which get bleed into the pedalboards power supplies causes a lot of problems. Power Conditioners are trying to filter out the spikes, surges, ripple currents, harmonics, noises, etc that is on the 120vac AC waveform going to the pedalboards powers supply and amplifiers. Those power supplies will NOT filter out these various harmonics, spikes, surges, ripple currents, leakage current, noises, etc. This is a major issue for not power conditioning your pedalboard if you have your booster pedal, tube screamer, distortion pedal, overdrive turned on which raises the noise floor and the club/bar dishwasher is turned on or a power tool is turned on you will hear it coming from the AC outlet into your pedalboard because of not power conditioning the pedalboard.

[@joemiller9856]

Hey Mason I am building a board around my headrush gig board that requires 19v 2.3 amps. I’m assuming I will need to use the the vendor supplied power cable and brick for this one as the other variable options appear to top out at 18v unless I’m missing something??? It’s a pretty simple board ( temple audio)with only a Headrush expression and 3 or 4 other other pedals. So i’ll probably go with the Cioks 4 for the rest. Love your videos by the way… learning a ton!

[@VertexEffectsInc]

You’ll need to use the supply it comes with.

[@joemiller9856]

@@VertexEffectsInc - thanks , I thought that would be the case but wanted to verify with the guru!

[@Naminorite]

Even though I am a beginner (with mostly low current boss pedals) I believe after watching your videos I'm going to go with switch mode power CIOKS DC-7 and CIOKS 8. I do have a few questions however what Mogami cable? (2524 versus 2319) what's the difference? How do I know how many pancake plugs versus straight plugs? And buffers, I have a Poly Tune Noir tuner, so I think that means I don't need a buffer in the front end? And really only would need a buffer at the end? If I'm correct which buffer? Is the JHS Little Black buffer OK?

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Cioks is great! 2524 is for instrument cables (not for the pedalboard) but for outside the pedalboard. 2319 and 2314 are better for the pedalboard connections from pedal to pedal l. The diameter is more appropriate. Unless you have jacks that are close together like on a switcher you would use all pancakes pretty much. The Polytune with the Bonafide buffer is fine for an input buffer - you’ll still need an output buffer. I’d suggest looking at our list of recommended buffers in the description of almost every video. This list is well curated and includes all high quality available buffers. 99% of the buffers out there are poor unfortunately.

[@grizelda4526]

TLDR: just buy a Cioks! No problems. Another great video. Thanks Mason!

[@michael_caz_nyc]

I have a VooDoo Lab ISO-5 and a Strymon Zuma ( love em ). Both are whisper quiet with my rig's, and I play a Suhr Strat with Lollar SSS configuration. ( also using high-end patch cables ).

[@VertexEffectsInc]

The iso 5 can have noise if put in the wrong place

[@michael_caz_nyc]

@@VertexEffectsInc Not in my set-up. I use a "Tone Brush" recommended by: Mason! ( ha, ha, - I know. I just keep it away from my wah ). I prefer my Zuma.

[@VertexEffectsInc]

@@michael_caz_nyc ha!