VES - Vent Enter Search - Colorado Springs Apartment Fire - IRONSandLADDERS

This is helmet cam footage from Truck 8 in Colorado Springs at a 3 alarm apartment fire with reports of trapped occupants on both floors. This footage has been made into a training video and shows some good examples of VES and points out areas where we could have improved our VES techniques. We know it is not perfect, but thought it offered a good first hand view of Vent Enter Search being performed by a first in Truck Co with poor conditions in some of the units. It serves as an example of a building fire where people may want to assume that civilians could not survive from the front side, but shows how many survivable spaces were found on the backside of the structure. The fire involved 6 units along with heavy fire involvement in the attic. It also started the siding and the soffit of the neighboring building on fire. The fire was contained to the original 6 units that were involved upon arrival . The building had 16 units total. Visit www.IRONSandLADDERS.com for more information.

[@raquelglecca]

I love how calm everyone is

[@matthewmclaren2143]

Being calm means its done alot more safer. Meaning that there is a higher chance in people surviving.

[@brennancrumb835]

thats how they do it

[@markwright5850]

Great communication and I like how he read the ladder position and changed it on the second VES knowing if his partner needed to bail the ladder would be in a better position. Great Job Thanks for the Video

[@thisisjspence]

I watch this video at least twice a day. We don't get a lot of truck time here, but it's our first out on mutual aid and we really need to get good at VES. Personally I think this video is a great example of that and despite what others may say, this was a fantastic job by the truck crew.

[@JB91710]

This is the difference when you Think about it. V - Vent the windows to release the interior pressure which will introduce fresh air into the burning building to allow the fire to grow. E - Enter a smoke filled, unfamiliar structure while the fresh air accelerates the fire. S - Search on your hands and knees to maybe find a victim before the accelerating fire drives you back out. Now compare that to this common sense and logical approach. V - Vent the fire room windows. E - Extinguish all Visible Burning Material in and outside the structure. V - Vent additional windows to remove heat, smoke and water vapor. E - Enter with a charged line to further cool the space while you search and remove the victims you just protected.

[@karenplath_]

I couldn't help but imagine being trapped on the second floor-- from the looks of it @7:15, it's a long way down. Nasty fire, great firefighters and helpful text for details.

[@copethehagen]

Your tactics are so incredibly different then ours, Its hard to believe we have the same job and do it so differently. I enjoy your videos. You guys are so much better at irons work then us.

[@billythekid5210]

Awesome video guys. Can't wait to show it to my guys Really helpful to not only show exactly what was done , but to also add stuff in there to explain. Thanks and nice work

[@jasonbarrett1586]

Great job and a thorough explanation of that system.

[@Boxalarmtraining]

Man, great video. I have a training channel and I am used to putting videos together. This one is put together really well. This is a great video for training. Very methodical and thorough from the truck work all the way through the editing. Nice Job

[@sam116pj]

Great video ! Im not trying to monday night quarter back here but my one thing to say to newer firefighters is that it might be a better Idea to take the windows at the top of the ladder when youre ready to enter. Given what we now know about the venting in modern homes. This is only because once you take it you want to close the door and isolate as quickly as possible to avoid fire spread into the room.. But its all according to your SOP's. Either way though its just my personal preference . Good job though! Great communication

[@andrewwalters3234]

We were always tought to break it when you throw the ladder and wait 15-20 seconds to make sire the room doesnt flash on you.

[@ags813]

Andrew Walters You should watch the new IFSFI videos and UL videos on fire flow path, it goes against the traditional venting methods, but it is a great tool to help understand what ventilation does in terms of fire condition for occupants and Firefighters.

[@henrydiaz3212]

+ags813 do you have the link or name of the video? if so please send it to me

[@SuperDavisdude]

If memory serves, Station 8 was consistently one of the busiest houses in the country. Is it still that way? The Chief who teaches my high school fire academy class was an engineer at this house for quite a while before moving to heavy rescue in the springs and he says that an average day was anywhere from 15-20 calls. Love the video and I have massive respect for the CSFD!!

[@devboqv084]

Strong work... This video shows the importance of doing your 360. I love the aggressive truck work...

[@jowboyer03]

Excellent work Truck 8!!!

[@shanem6869]

Great video and execution on the fireground. Well done.

[@ottawaemergencyresponses]

Great video and great VEIS from second floor. Textbook.

[@mfc1965]

Great job guys!

[@richiezv2020]

Great stuff boys!!! Thanks for putting it on the line so that we can all learn!! Stay safe!!!

[@kither04]

Thanks for answering. Sitting here my heart was pounding and I watched a lady burn to death in the third grade over 30years ago. I am scared to death of fire. Your company is fantastic and true definition of hero's. stay safe out there.

[@IRONSandLADDERS]

Sean, I figured I would reply even though it may be a waste of my time, I notice that you spend a lot of time going from fire video to fire video telling people how bad they suck at their job, and thats ok, I have thick skin and the reason I post videos like this is to learn from mistakes and create better fireman. The crew I work with in this video has been together for a very long time and requires very little communication. There is a lot of trust between the officer and backseat, CONTINUED

[@mxslick50]

Do everyone a huge favor and block JB91710 as well...

[@janclendenin5407]

I agree with you! People just don't understand! Armchair critics! Don't pay attention to these comments! You firefighters are awesome! !! Keep up the good work guys!

[@davemarshall706]

Thats why you have guidelines instead of rock solid procedures. Its a fluid situation.

[@darylprescott8130]

@@mxslick50 lmao facts

[@darylprescott8130]

Absolutely fantastic vid. Thank u. As a probie, footage like these helps me alot

[@arvos21]

Thank you for posting.... shift training for the night.

[@Skaterboarder2343]

Great video fellas! Very well planned and executed.

[@richardkeilig4062]

Well done. I learned a lot from this video. Good communications. Team work to the max!

[@cdeaton343]

The only thing I would have to say, is V.E.S. is a quick in and out. If you break the window you had better be prepared to go in at that moment to find and control the door to prevent fire spread into that room. Good job realizing that V.E.S. was needed. Good work out.

[@lonelycorpro1]

Crazy how little smoke was showing in the alleyway until they reached the courtyard

[@firemedic4220]

Great job!! Excellent video and very knowledgeable. Thanks for sharing!

[@criyi12]

Great job guys! Will use for training.

[@Cubby07410]

Outstanding Job guys !!! Smart, fast, and safe !! Peace and Be Safe Brothers !!

[@IRONSandLADDERS]

What is your concern with the ladder breaking the window? Do i use them like that every time, No. Would I use them that way again if the situation called for it ? Absolutely. The best firemen I have ever worked with know how to use their tools the primary way, and then know how to use them for every other possible option. We solve problems, its not black and white, and it never will be. If you were as experienced as your comments make you sound, I would have assumed you would understand this.

[@IRONSandLADDERS]

Great advice, garden level windows can be a pain.

[@adamfraser8522]

great job guys. An excellent example of VES in heavy fire conditions.

[@happyjack880]

Great video. Excellent truck work!

[@EngineMan140]

Great truck work, great communications, great video thanks

[@trentsmillmansion1]

Awesome! Love this. Going to use this for training tomorrow on shift. Stay safe brothers.

[@truckntreat]

Good job and Video...Text Book and Professional.

[@tuscaloosafiredawgs4094]

Great video, thanks for posting it.

[@wofd7m16]

Great video, great teamwork. Got the job done is a short amount of time, don't worry about the by the book haters in this world. Some people run in, some stand in the yard. I started in the fire service in 1991, so I know what I am talking about. Keep posting these are great for training.

[@andyoxleyonhistravels]

Quite often the ones that run in don't come out.

[@machomadness22]

Cool, calm and collected nice work bro.

[@rickmckee9726]

Awesome video! Thanks for the content.

[@MichaelVincentfoto]

nice thinking on VES. why did the female not want you going in the windows initially? seems like more resources were being used for fire control than for rescue.

[@IRONSandLADDERS]

Most of our assignments are done face to face or are standard operating procedures that my officer knows I will be performing. Could a radio transmission been made before the first window? Sure. But your point of the "what ifs" does not carry much weight here. If VES is performed properly, one person enters and one person monitors, thats one of the reasons it is a safe and disciplined tactic. If something was to happen my partner on the ladder knows exactly where I am.

[@IRONSandLADDERS]

Its the FireCam 720.

[@ramsenalbazi7435]

This was bad ass. Thank you 🙏

[@robodenwald2138]

Great video, thanks for sharing, will use it for training.

[@rickbreier9449]

Great video. Thanks for sharing.

[@ErikHirner]

Nice work, on scene and the editing room floor. I'll use this for a training night sometime soon.

[@chriskyle6344]

Counter fit money nice

[@IRONSandLADDERS]

It seems to me that you work for an FD somewhere based on your comments, however a lot of your comments seem to be based off of books or other things that you have read and not from an understanding how first due fire ground work actually happens. I could be wrong and understand that is an assumption but I have to say there are good fire companies all over this country that get it done in the first 10 minutes adapting there actions to the task at hand. Which means it rarely is by the book.

[@henz-27]

Not knocking these tactics because eight years ago, this is how I would have done it. Eight years ago I would have been more likely to command entry prior to placing water. For years we went in fron the unburned side and then placed GPMs. For those watching this these days, however, experience has proven that immediate placement of high GPMs with a solid/straight stream, held still to upper atmosphere/ceiling, always makes things better. The best rescues are made with immediate water simultaneous with immediate entry of Truck FFs (yes or otherwise), with control of fire products (smoke) flowpath (yes, ventilating). This comes from experience but hey it took me 20+ years to get it right.

[@ThreeLetters3]

I'm only 15 (as of last month) and I love your videos

[@buckeye-pe6df]

Why is your age important? A simple "I like your videos" would be just fine..

[@CRTB213]

awesome video! you guys did a great job

[@mfresh1965]

CSFD Station #8 !!! Trained there with Jose Martinez, Kevin Apperon, and Bob Burton. Best training department out there. Everybody's cool!

[@chriskyle6344]

And killa

[@chriskyle6344]

You trained with military

[@jjaagg5050]

I don't think anyone knows just how much there is to firefighting other than just putting water on it. Big salute to the men and women of fire services!

[@marcusmoore1555]

Great job

[@kither04]

I am on edge of my seat but got a question. I was reading about the veis and it said when your partner is in stand at the top to stay in touch. On the second window how come you didnt go up top like the other guy did? I think ya'll are amazing and could never in my life do this. Its just an honost ?

[@deweybarnes61]

GREAT VIDEO

[@jc53593]

Thanks for the video!

[@chosenone1004]

I’m curious , was there reports of possible victims ? Or were these searches being conducted just as a precaution? I just think guys trench cutting that roof to try and stop fire spread would have been a little more of a priority? Especially with those type of fire conditions on arrival . Trying to stop that fire from taking that building would be the first thing done . You’re also venting windows and feeding air into those apartments the fire has made it to Get. And by no means am I taking a shot at anyone . I think everyone did a great job . It’s hard to see everything that’s happening through just this video . Either way stay safe out there

[@dandylayor9862]

This was a situation where there were reports of victims trapped by the fire during their prearrival information, thus their priority was for life safety and not property. At about 3:11 you hear the firefighter mention the potential of people trapped (a little choppy). Definitely good survival space in there and it is definitely a high priority upon entry to make sure doors are closed and fire is not drawn to you or the victims you are trying to search for and rescue. Great thoughts and comments.

[@IRONSandLADDERS]

Good question. I was delayed getting to the top of the ladder because I was off my air mask for a minute and trying to make a radio transmission.

[@marcotmguerra]

Hey, man! What camera you recorded this video? Nice video! Ty!

[@billjaquith5251]

great job there boys.

[@pauliewalnuts4990]

Excellant video. You guys did a great job! What was the thinking behind having Truck 8 back into the scene?

[@rangerman375]

Not with this department, but the closer you put the turntable the more you can do with the ladder itself, plus a closer/higher master stream if you have to go into a defensive mode of fire attack. Driving straight in limits what you can do, and putting it in at a corner provides (although this had tight quarters to work) coverage on 2 out of 4 sides of the building if you need to use the truck's stick for rescues or fire attack. Strong work, I&L!

[@IRONSandLADDERS]

Paulie, rangermans comment is exactly why we try to do it. We gain 42 feet of aerial ladder coming off of the back.

[@pauliewalnuts4990]

Thanks for the reply. I'm not a Truckman, so you taught a nozzlehead a few things about truck co. placement. Stay safe.

[@rangerman375]

Paulie Walnuts Another consideration for backing in, while not related to this video: Trucks (if they can at all) can only do below grade ladder rescue techniques off the sides and rear of the turntable, with the reach advantage I&L mentioned to boot. Reach is also the reason for intelligent "beaching" of apparatus if necessary, to affect rescues, ventilation and efficient fire attack.

[@res1cue2001]

rangerman375 The reason that you back in (esp. a rear mount ladder) is you can maximize the aerial scrub coverage and reach by working off the rear. If you nose in in the wrong situation you can potentially lose up to half the length of the ladder by having to extend directly over the full length of the chassis.

[@IRONSandLADDERS]

Ya bro, it is. Still riding the backseat of T8.

[@IRONSandLADDERS]

Paid. 21 Engine Co's, 6 Truck Co's, 1 Rescue. 500,000 population

[@dianecrumb940]

i may have miscounted but we have 5 trucks

[@dianecrumb940]

unless you are counting our rescue

[@brennancrumb835]

six is right

[@eliesiamendes5114]

Ves is a great call but would think about conducting a deeper search not just one room per window. Faster and more efficacy this way.

[@Biffo1262]

Eliesia Mendes Deeper penetration without further firefighter resources puts those men in great danger hence only the single room search. It's all two firefighters can safely manage.

[@StrongWing93]

What kind of camera did you use? Great footage

[@gocoastgaurd721]

StrongWing93 guessing Fire Cam, Great cameras from what I've heard and seen. Check out OneNineTruck for lots of great footage!

[@biged3ff149]

Strong work

[@bitblitz14]

what is your staffing for a truck company?

[@joerackl]

What kind of hook is that? 5 or 6 feet

[@IRONSandLADDERS]

6' steel hook

[@TheSubieFan]

+IRONSandLADDERS Really well done good job

[@سيفمحمد-ظ2س1ك]

+TheSubieFan نو. راهدت

[@matthewrigsby2413]

Is this video from you Royal??

[@norvikboghosian1482]

Every day i dreamed for this job but because of some people hwo have only looks of human they makes problem for me they didn't allow me to go even work on my degrees they deactivated my school id card never i can forget, Guys love you all you are the best

[@IRONSandLADDERS]

4 man Trucks, 4 man engines

[@madmace125]

Paid or volunteer?

[@ryanrasberry1784]

Way to work and get shit done!

[@IRONSandLADDERS]

I would love to discuss this further with you and would welcome an email from you with any other questions. If you are a true brother in the fire service, email me at [e-mail] and we can talk about anything else you may have seen. If you have footage of your last fire I would love to review it for you and send a few of my comments your way. Thanks Ryan Royal IRONSandLADDERS LLC

[@ccaa007]

Badass

[@josiahfredericks1464]

do more

[@عبدالالهسعد-ه2ص]

Fire

[@jakeingram4736]

Why would you break out the windows????

[@Virtus_3356]

You simply open the window not break it. That can cause the fire to get more air elsewhere. Open the window and close it behind you after but never break them if you don't have too

[@JohnOscar93]

Good luck getting your average firefighter in full gear through your average double shash window without busting it out.

[@retiredarthritic2083]

@@Virtus_3356 I am a retired FF when fully decked out in bunker gear BA irons and the pieces of equipment I had in pockets plus radio I needed an opening that was 30 X 30 inches, I was 6'4'', 250lbs, shirt size 2Xl, 42'' waist, 32'' inseam. yes I was big and powerful. Still am for that matter. With all my gear I had to have a lot of space to get through any opening into the fire building.

[@eastonxphoenix2140]

That's my HOUSE

[@CCWSig]

Need to charge those radios, or get new batteries. 10 min in and they are dead.

[@FireVideos]

Look up my fire video: Fully Involved house fire up close with helmet cam Rollover Huge intense flames

[@seanm5809]

A radio transmission that should have been made at the start of the search, What if something would have happend in the first search to both of you?? No one would have none where you were. Also since when was a ladder used to break windows?

[@TheModernSnipez]

Since the beginning of the fire service when ladders were introduced. You ever been to a working fire?

[@alleycat9884]

Just put water on it already

[@HaythamAlsayed]

7:30 everybody knows this struggle lol

[@rds766]

Great job but I'd love to see FDNY handle this.

[@LyndDaphne]

23228 Lyda Spur

[@JB91710]

SAVBMF Stop All Visible Burning Material First. STT Stop The Threat. K.I.S.S. Keep It Simple Stupid. This is fun! At least my way you can save lives and property.

[@cjritchie9701]

Y’all got the stupid part right that’s for sure. That’s exactly what was done. You just can’t see it because this firefighter wasent putting water on the fire, someone elce was witch you can see at the begging of the video, and these guys searched while fire attack was being completed. You know this. Your just a looser

[@ALee8456]

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[@JB91710]

Vent, Enter, Search. Nothing about putting water on visible burning material to stop the threat so Everyone is safe? If you hit the entire exterior with that 2.5" line in the hands of a competent user, the visible fire could have been out before the first fire fighter made it to the second floor. Around 15 seconds. With the fire raging and creating more gasses and heat, when the fire fighter broke the window in the back, the entire interior could have erupted with the influx of fresh air. I know the fire service wants to complicate fire fighting but eliminating the visible fire seems to be the more logical approach. At least that is what we did when we were Saving lives and Property.

[@dannorman9683]

You have no concept of engine & truck work. Please delete your account and stop thinking you have a clue.

[@JB91710]

@@dannorman9683 Interesting how I went into so much detail and you didn't have anything to offer. How Exactly do I Not have a clue? I wonder what the guy in these videos meant! I sure hope they aren't getting it wrong too! kzbin.info/www/bejne/naKUZHeVg7eEf6c kzbin.info/www/bejne/f2LYcn1oiaaIeaM&list=PLkp0E1ao1XEw35c4z-PSM0hoKYiMLpHJC&index=5

[@mxslick50]

@@dannorman9683 Eveyrone needs to block JB from commenting on their videos...all he does is spout off insults, negative criticism and personal attacks.

[@whiteboysixty5]

How is this guy still around?

[@cjritchie9701]

So, I think that’s what they did. As you can see a 2 1/2 being pulled at the beginning. Not every fire fighter on the fire ground puts water on the fire. That’s was clearly being done by another company. You can see the line being pulled at the begging, and these guys went to the back. So you have no clue what happened up there, I’m im sure it was exactly that. Your a loser

[@JB91710]

VEVE V-Vent windows as close to the fire as possible. E- Extinguish all Visible Burning Material through the windows. V-Vent windows in other areas. E- Enter and extinguish burning material, as you perform a search, to remove the THREAT from the victims and fire fighters. "Remove the threat as Fast and Safe as possible while using the least amount of water." and, "Stay off the roof of a burning building."

[@ALee8456]

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