VESC® Tool 2020 Tutorial - How to Program Vesc for DIY Electric Skateboards

[@stayathomecatdad]

bro i can't thank you enough this video helped so much. your enclosure is dust that you sell but this video makes up for it.

[@johnmason5038]

My bro! You are the man! That tutorial was super helpful! And explained in a language that I can understand! Respect bro!! Excellent job!!!

[@MBoardsco]

Glad I could help!!!

[@default19in]

Lot of love from india tx so much for making video & sharing efforts.

[@amshelmayer617]

1.Do i need a seperate microcontroller? 2.is it possible to connect two vesc6 via Bluetooth and make one to master and the oder to slave? And connect them with a wireless remote too?

[@don.s_a_l_v_a_t_o_r_e]

Hello! I completely converted a Xiaomi 1S for 6 months and worked on the scooter with a 48V 1000W motor with Hall sensors and 3 motor cables with 30 Hall magnets. One question PLEASE: updated my VESC 75100 with FW 5.02 to 6.02 and all the settings are great but the speedometer is correct in the air 100kmh but when driving the VESC app shows e.g. 70-75kmh and GPS from Play Store only shows 50-55kmh and at VESC at RT speedometer start screen e.g. 85kmh and GPS from Play Store second app only shows 60kmh instead of 85km! I must have a problem in your video at the minute: 13:23! It says Motor Pulley and Whell Pulley and I never change that and just always press "direct drive" and then Motor Pulley and Whell Pulley are grayed out so they can't be adjusted anymore! And then I do the run test, the rear motor turns and always shows like yours 49A Motor Current and Sensorless!! And whenever I set up the Hall sensor always USB cable on the computer and in the app again and again when checking the motor it shows Sensorless. But I have 5 Hall sensor cables + 3 motor cables! But please Can you tell me what the Motor Pulley and Whell Pulley are called in German? What do I have to set? As I said, I have a 48V 1000W motor and it has 3.1kg, an aluminum motor with 30 Hall magnets! But I once used Motor Pulley 30 Magnets set and then the VESC app only showed 35kmh or 65kmh! Please what is meant by motor pulley, what do I have to enter? You have the best KZbin video with settings on KZbin and I hope you can answer that for me. PLEASE! I just want to know what Motor Pulley is and what I have to enter there! My Hall magnets 30? Because I always press direct drive and skip this entry with motor and Whell Pulley! Kind regards. 🙂

[@chrislba4088]

Clear, concise, and thorough. Thanks.

[@henryvoelkl6948]

Thank you I’ve been waiting for someone to do this!

[@johnmason5038]

Mike this video was the bomb!! I've learnt so much through you!! Keep em comin brother!! Cheers!!!

[@jeffkessel1963]

I am a complete newbie. No electrical knowledge at all. Trying to set up dual Maytech 6374 motors with dual 100a VESC and waterproof remote to act as trolling motors for a boat. I need some serious help getting everything set up. Any way you could walk me through it???

[@superjaykramer]

Great video!! I wish everybody was logical and clear as you!!...THANK YOU..Helped out a lot...I like it a lot:)

[@Habusmekkus]

How can I do this for my electric scooter?

[@ayaanmmusic]

Love the video, could you please do a video helping us with what type of board we should buy

[@de_dorf279]

very ice tutorial but l just want to ask can you connect a twist throttle to the VESC instead of a remote. l can connect the receiver to the throttle but l have a blue and a yellow wire that dont have a port that can connect to the VESC. any thoughts ???

[@ajahniepemberton1860]

can I use this for a 4wd diy board

[@quentinplatt]

THANK YOU! hands down the best VESC tutorial video I've seen! Excellent quality, excellent editing, spectacular delivery of the information. Well done! ! ! I really can't thank everyone involved in making this video enough. I'm setting up a new Stormcore. Having set up a few FOC BOX Unities I was lil confused on whether to split the battery current in half for the 60D . 🙏🏻 I am truly grateful for your time and contribution to the E skateboarding community & DIY elec vehicle community. Outstanding work and Happy New Year! (C'mon 2021! be more better than 2020! 🙃)

[@MBoardsco]

Thank you so much for the kind words! I am so happy this has helped your build process! Happy New Year! 🎆

[@hobbypilots794]

Thanks for the info, I just came back to skating, I have Fiik electric brushed version. I lost the remote which is UART, can you please help me in finding the remote and receiver which support UART, so I don't have to replace my Esc which is brushed. Appreciate your kind support

[@YouTubeCommentator.]

Do the two controllers have to be the same? Or just the firmware?

[@justinmathew130]

Can we connect it to the Brushed DC motors

[@ulianassange2763]

i have a flipsky vx2 remote and a torque boards prebuild but a computer went faulty so i removed it for now and am doing a single motor set up....i set everything up and mostly everything works but when i do remote set up the vx2 is paired but with no input ....the controller seems to be working looking at the remote calibration but there just isnt any input to the board.... any tips?

[@guitarylife3062]

I have one huge issue. When I run the motor test. My motor makes this wierd sound then lurches forward and completes the test with no wheels spinning. Also the vesc blinks 3 reds and another 3 immediately after. I just bought this vesc from you and followed all of the steps. Is there something I’m missing?

[@joshuamarkowitz5183]

This video is fantastic! Thanks Mike! You’re the best! Question: Mike if we are using a Dual FSESC4.20 Plus from Flipsky should we still be cutting the battery current max and battery current max regen in half? It’s 1 Vesc but controls 2 motors

[@MBoardsco]

If you are using an All-in-one dual vesc, you’ll still want to divide by 2 if you have to program 2 sides. If you only have to program the entire thing once, you would enter the full amount. Hopefully that makes sense!

[@joshuamarkowitz5183]

Thanks!

[@swarmbots9242]

so would you suggest a vesc for a hoverboard motor?

[@jpaulglobal]

I have a 12s 4p battery for Lacroix how to figure out milliamp hours? Thanks!!!!!

[@leobikeserviceoficinaespec3137]

I would like you to send me the link of the app for configuration, thanks

[@swimwithcoachraven1532]

I have my DIY electric skateboard working for some time. It’s been like 5 years. Now the Kama don’t connect. What should I do? Get a new controller and rewire the dongle again

[@febl]

Thx for the helpful video! My board is working now! :)

[@edwardgrunloh8083]

Hi, I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong but when I download the VESC tool from the website the "VESC Tool" launches kicad. Is this normal? please help, I'm very new and very lost.

[@MrMic18650]

Can you put, a vesc tool personal link in the description.

[@Diegoofearth]

Thank you! This was super informative and helpful, can't wait to get started.

[@Lennings82]

if I like to control two motors with a raspberry pi or Arduino separate, it would not be a problem? like different speeds or directions.

[@Chris-be5tr]

Hey Mike, I had a question about the motor current max and the battery current max. How are we able to set a maximum current to the motors that is greater than our discharge current? How do these 2 numbers make sense together? If you could answer my question that would be great. Thanks for your super helpful videos

[@flavioernst902]

You can think about it like a step down converter. The coil current is higher because the duty cycle is not 100% and the rest of the current gets pulled from ground because of the induction of the motorcoils. Motor current defines the torque output ot the motor and the battery current defines the power output. Usualy only 1 limit is active only in one rpm/torque spot both are active. Hope this helps. Even if a little late...

[@alessimessi761]

Hey Mboards, I’m having some issues with the ppm mapping of the remote and when I do it and when the throttle is in the middle it still will be on like 80% for some reason and I don’t know how to fix it, any ideas?

[@MBoardsco]

There should be a setting to set the start, end, AND middle. You can use the middle setting to “zero” out your throttle. Hope this helps!

[@MasterIvo]

So a 0 to 5 V signal can control the vesc speed using ADC in?

[@jpaulglobal]

Dude How in the heck do you know all these numbers? I cannot find my numbers as Lacroix is out of business. Any help w/ the numbers of a 12s 4p p42a 21700?? Thank you!

[@nagasankethvysyaraju680]

Hello, this is a great video for people to setup everything. And I am having hard time figuring out how to operate the motor with keyboard/ Joystick. I am using VESC 4.12, BLDC motor. It would be great if you can help me with this.

[@nagasanketh4762]

The option to control Joystick or Gamepad was added recently to the VESC tool I guess. It would be great if you can explain how to set it up and also how to control the speed and RPM not just with Gamepad but also with Keyboard control

[@JoeMamasPapa]

I have the same remote as what you have in this video, but I've been unable to find a receiver to use with it. Can you link me to a compatible receiver?

[@cudiedgar]

this video was so clean, thanks a bunch!

[@evilanteater96]

What would the current max for regenerative breaking be for a 12s4p battery 15 amps per cell be?

[@solarsynapse]

I am an RC guy and this is the first time hearing about a VESC. I use brushed and brushless RC ESCs. I have recently been playing with e-bike/scooter equipment which is a whole different world. RC ESCs and motors and e-bike ESCs and motors do not work with each other. It looks like a VESC will work with normal RC equipment. Will it work with e-bike/scooter hub type motors? RC ESCs do not. I had to rig a PT01B interface to the hub motor controller to be able to control it with RC radio equipment which is not very good due to those controllers reference the signal at the bottom and an RC ESC references in the middle.

[@Maninvestation]

Hey mike is there a way to set up the motor in vesc so that it coasts better and doesn’t feel like its trying to brake as soon as u let off the throttle?

[@michaelpalma902]

What if I want to go on reverse on my board, can I click current with reverse?

[@itsjustpunk8509]

Hey I'm the jaysplifs son, and he needs to know if he would i need some sort of CANbus receiver wire cable, for the dual flip skies motor 4.20 100A.

[@Hydro97]

hi where do you bought the vesc? can it handle a 84v battery?

[@bakaAL07]

Thanks for the video. But I have one disagree with your tune: you're using vesc 4.20 with the max current of 50 amps continuous, but setting it up to 60 amps, which can result to overheat the vesc during long climb hills

[@MBoardsco]

Yes this can happen during longer rides. Definitely want to consider your riding patterns while programming 👍🏻

[@crownoffyre894]

So would it be possible to get 1000 w motors and use and program them to only go 25 mph and only use 700 w with the vesc, and does following this prosses mean you with thave to manually go back and change the speed and breaks

[@TrooperManaic]

Shouldn't you plug in the battery last

[@Aang4421]

How would you connect the Bluetooth module if you're already using a UART remote on a dual motor setup?

[@MBoardsco]

You’d have to make a splitter. We’ll look into getting something like this made.

[@pjortmaszyna]

you set battery current regen to -12A, while your 30q cells are designed to only take 1,5A charge. should't you give it 4,5A since it's 3p setup?

[@kraeber5610]

So I just got one of ur 12s4p packs what is the continuous amps it can pull

[@MBoardsco]

Using the same math as the video, each cell can handle 15 amps, so 15 x 4 = 60 :)

[@henryvoelkl6948]

Quick question, what is the difference between foc and bldc configurations? Power output? Noise? Response time?

[@FlipskyTech]

Top tutorial!

[@thestrongestavenger1]

Can you get 2 more of these 4.12's and do a 4wd via the can bus? Will the vecs detect it? Also, do you need a loopkey anymore or was that a thing of the past?

[@MBoardsco]

Yes you can do a 4wd set up with 4 Vescs 👍🏻 Also a loop key is an anti-spark power switch alternative that is much much cheaper than an actual button and is a good option 👍🏻

[@thestrongestavenger1]

@@MBoardsco nice, will you ever do a video with 4? Currently nobody has a video on that

[@MBoardsco]

Yes! Will add that to list of video ideas!

[@kraeber5610]

If you have a dual motor vesc that runs from one cable power cable unlike the triangle wires piece like urs do u still have to cut the battery current max in half

[@LeonCamero]

Yes. Its basically a canbus connected into one unit. If you see two different connections at the lower left hand corner, that's your key.

[@jacksahn4605]

This is my first dual motor VESC setup. I’m currently configuring the VESC and the motor sounds like it doesn’t want to spin or as if it’s having a hard time spinning. When I run the detection, motor spins fine, however when I try to setup the Remote and to calibrate it, that’s where the motor doesn’t want to spin. What can cause this issue? Setup: (2) 5s1p battery 8000 mah 30c (2) C6374 motor (2) 4.12 Flipsky VESC Battery Current Max: I had it set to 25 Amps Battery Current Max Regen: I had it set to -6

[@MBoardsco]

What’s your voltage cut off set to?

[@jacksahn4605]

@@MBoardsco Voltage cut off start: 34 V and Voltage cutoff end: 31 V using the default battery cutoff calculator for 10 cells

[@jacksahn4605]

I'm having this issue: vesc-project.com/node/779 Within the PPM Pluselength Mapping section. I don't have any red lights, I can see the receiver on the VESC is receiving communication however the motor makes this weird sound(as if it doesn't have enough power) Example: Skip to 40 secs, it's identical however mines louder, I've lowered the cutoff like him however still not working. kzbin.info/www/bejne/e3upeaaIqbGnpKs&ab_channel=TorqueBoardsTorqueBoards

[@jacksahn4605]

@@MBoardsco I uploaded a video kzbin.info/www/bejne/roXNo2qmo7WUbdE

[@jacksahn4605]

@@MBoardsco I've also recorded the VESC settings: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fXOom6eNpM6UrtU Also here's my setup diagram: www.reddit.com/r/ElectricSkateboarding/comments/nmavtk/need_help_figuring_out_what_wiring_adapter_needed/

[@biskero]

can you connect a Dual Motor Vesc to a single motor and have double power?

[@808pathfinder]

i have a twd Boyaeda want to use two of them VESC , can i program it to have more amps in the back and the rest in the front? exp. 65% front /35% in the back

[@sakshisharma7046]

How can we monitor real time data using vesc ( without connecting it to a laptop) ?

[@alexvinnikov2967]

Hello e-skater team and like your videos, and what type of wires( AWG 8, or 16 .... recommend please ) best use for these type of constant current load ~20-25A (planning in my case scenario) ?

[@מוטיאידלמן]

Hey I have a hub engine and at first it worked for me but when I did a software update the wheels stopped spinning. It makes a noise like it's spinning but nothing happens

[@Eden_M]

סידרת את הבעיה? זה מנוע עם גיר?

[@מוטיאידלמן]

@@Eden_M כן. הסתדר לי. מצאתי שם עוד עדכון

[@brandonabbott7574]

Can you please build the fastest, longest range, high end board from the best parts you offer?

[@MBoardsco]

Yes! Definitely gotta build a high end board!

[@tylanders6930]

I want to make a board from 300 to 350 but I live on a huge hill and belt driven are so expensive. What should I do?

[@NoahZimmerman]

If our motor is rated for 7,000 watts, should we enter 7000 into the Motor settings-> General-> Wattage tab?

[@lesp315]

Nice tutorial. Thanks.

[@djc420clark]

If i have a 25a bms on my 7s3p pack can i put regenerate brakes at 25a?

[@rdyer8764]

Great! Clear. Concise.

[@nurzhan051184]

can we set low rpm and hight torque?

[@MILLERS066]

Can you flash the firmware on 2 vesc at once or do you flash each one individually and then connect them together via cable and proceed with settings?

[@sage5044]

nicely done. thank you.

[@victortang2910]

If I have two 3s lipo batteries connected in series, does it equal to a 6s lipo battery?

[@MBoardsco]

Yes 👍🏻

[@ronan9784]

What do I do if my motor is clogging under load ?

[@MBoardsco]

Most likely a sensor cable issue. Are you using a sensor cable?

[@krishnansrinivasan830]

Nice & Thanks :) Sir , there are Dual drive single ESC with remote controller right.. what is the advantage of using two single drive ESC's ?!

[@MBoardsco]

If one Vesc fails you only need to replace 1 Vesc. If one side of a dual Vesc fails, you have to replace the entire thing.

[@krishnansrinivasan830]

@@MBoardsco Thanks Sir 🙏 , what's the frequency of failure say for example incase of Flipsky dual drive ESC ? Thanks once again 🙂

[@nin1ten1do]

you have 2 separated systems, mean nore safety, also prize is lower per each.. you can use combo of many diferent seller,,, with no big deal issue. and desfinetly good for continual use. coz dual bord is must be replaced whole.. and ez answear for your second question.. 2x more than 2 Vesc system.. if you burn it.. you burn it..

[@krishnansrinivasan830]

@@nin1ten1do Thanks 🙏👍

[@alexvinnikov2967]

hey team and like your videos about explanation! Have one -> is there a need of anti-spark switch for using with VESC 4.20 ? or no need ? don't know whether VESC supports it but there is definitely some supports about cut-off voltage. VESC4.20 is exactly like on your video and planning to use custom built li-ion 18650 6S2P battery 6000mAh (supposedly battery can make ~30-35A peak) Let me know news and thx again for great channel with explanations /Alex

[@codysays]

What if your flipsky VX1 remote is not showing on the VESC Tool? the wireless light is solid on my remote and my VESC tool. (from the Mboards 2020 Single motor Kit)

[@MBoardsco]

If you are using the UART port it will not show in the VESC tool.

[@codysays]

@@MBoardsco I will check that tomorrow. I watched your videos everything “seems” right to me. If the Vesc software recognizes and lets you adjust the motors it should be functioning properly I imagine? Which means I need to figure out what I am doing wrong for the remote

[@codysays]

@Mboards Ok so I ran Vesc tool wrote the motors configurations and it spun my motor up. After all settings were input and saved I disconnected in vesc tool and via usb cable. The light on the flipsky receiver is blue and my remote is solid red but no motor movement

[@troylanier]

@@codysays Having the same issue, did you ever figure out how to solve this? Thanks!

[@travistravis7190]

Can you download onto a chromebook or does it have to be windows?

[@MBoardsco]

The only official version is for Windows at the moment.

[@travistravis7190]

@@MBoardsco I dropped my remote for my board and now there is a mechanical fail issue with it. The sping thats inside the thumb throttle has broken or loosened and the thumb trigger now doesnt self centre, it will stay on fully braking or full throttle without self centering if you take your thumb off. Wondering how hard it is to just replace that single part. Because of covid, I cant buy a replacement remote for months. Was considering trying to buy whole new esc but I dont know what Im doing there either. Anoying

[@MILLERS066]

Is there a way to adjust throttle curve? My VX1 is super touchy and has caused me to almost fall a few times.

[@MBoardsco]

Yes there is a throttle curve section with in the Vesc Tool. You’ll find it in the App section.

[@mikebuildsum]

Should i use split ppn or can bus flipsky 4.12

[@MBoardsco]

I personally like to use the canbus cable.

[@mikebuildsum]

@@MBoardsco where can i get one im in the uk they all seem us i tryed the usual ebay amazon hobby king are they all universal im new to this

[@MBoardsco]

We’ve got them on our website, we ship to UK. But shipping might not make sense unless you need anything else to ship with it. You can also make your own with a 4 pin JST connector.

[@mikebuildsum]

@@MBoardsco thanks for the info i wanted to can bus would be good to see in one of your videos the advantages and disadvantages of both (can bus vs ppn split) you make really good content in a easy to understand format hope your channel continues to grow

[@NoahZimmerman]

Where is the link for the 5 pin motor sensor wire adapter?

[@MBoardsco]

Sorry about that! Just added it to the description!

[@NoahZimmerman]

MBoards Thank you!

[@ajusay74]

Thank you.

[@locatejohn]

Why did you put 45A in the "Battery Current MAX on the first VESC and 22.5A in the second VESC?

[@MBoardsco]

With 2 Vescs you’ll want to divide by 2 so you aren’t pulling double the amperage from your battery

[@badassdrones778]

great video thanks a lot.

[@MadMickey58]

Many thanks for posting this video. It was very useful :-)

[@ChangedWayz]

hey thanks for all your videos, it definitely helps. im trying to setup my input wizard for my 2.4 nano remote, but for some reason the at the mapping chart the controller is not being read. i,t is paired with the receiver as both lights come to constant and im am at a standstill. my motors have been read fine and all the data plus i have updated firmware unless ihave done that wrong, what do you think i can do?

[@MBoardsco]

Have you tried reversing the PPM cable? Many times if you plug it in backwards the lights will turn on but the signal will not be read.

[@ChangedWayz]

@@MBoardsco thanks for the reply, i have and ensured of that. recently i have just noticed only my green light is on the remote when it is powered.... also i just got a signal on PPM mapping but tried to go onto the wizard and it told me to update my firmware.

[@ChangedWayz]

@@MBoardsco got it working, just had to continue to upload firmware onto both motors properly like you said in one of yer other videos. thanks for your help man

[@MBoardsco]

Glad you got it figured out!

[@zaid-je5es]

My English not good will you type the content with exactly numbers please

[@andreaespinozashoell9799]

If my motor is 367 g what motor size should I select? Small or medium ?

[@MBoardsco]

Typically electric skateboard motors are categorized as medium.

[@nin1ten1do]

Dang good work.. actualy doing this Video atm ya in my language (CZ).. with Koowheel D3 coz they'r ESC was bake-itself shame i don't see this before.. co'z i found how to set it, by hardway.. TY for your work, hope YT finay put this on trend's.

[@sakshisharma7046]

How do you restrict the starting torque of the motor?

[@MBoardsco]

Actually just posted a video about throttle curve. That might help!

[@sakshisharma7046]

@@MBoardsco Thank you :)

[@amanuelephrem1091]

wouldve been nice to have this video before I fried my vesc LOL :) You live and you learn i guess haha

[@thelobuezoo9324]

So I followed all your steps and once I plugged in the can bus cable the lights stopped turning on and the computer no longer recognizes the vesc. Did I fry it ? And if so why?! Using a 10s4p battery with two 4.12 vescs. Kept it basic- plugged it in just like you said. Each vesc spun it’s wheel individually but once I connected the vesc it is dead! Help please!

[@thelobuezoo9324]

Battery is split with power going to each vesc also

[@underhill907]

First thank you so much for this video, it's really informative and easy to understand, second, if I'm using a dual VESC rather than 2 individual VESC's are the steps the same?

[@MBoardsco]

Yes, if you have to program 2 sides of a dual Vesc, the steps are the same 👍🏻

[@underhill907]

@@MBoardsco thanks for the reply man!

[@EMotoGuyyy]

@@MBoardsco hey I’m using a dual flip sky vesc 6.6 I got one side programmed but the other side refuses to connect and yes I have the vesc in dual mode

[@kraeber5610]

Yes thx I needed this

[@MBoardsco]

Glad we could help!

[@tomgreysk]

I use A123 26650. 12s6p😅

[@Josh-fx6di]

when i go to download vesc tool it makes me add it to a cart how do i download the software???

[@MBoardsco]

“Purchase” the $0 version. You will be provided with a link upon check out.

[@Josh-fx6di]

@@MBoardsco I figured it out but now I have a problem it won’t let me enter a number for Battery current Max regen flipsky4.12

[@ThaimachineFilms]

i want a firmware update, but it shows about 15 types of firmware on the left site.. lol wich one to choose ... -.-

[@MBoardsco]

You’ll want to select the one that matches your Hardware version 👍🏻

[@ThaimachineFilms]

@@MBoardsco yeah, but how to see which one is the right :D i choose the 410 one at the bottom right now .. lol

[@Alohakoa59]

Whoa!!! Slow down, give me a chance to hear and understand. Explain why, slowly😀👍🏼

[@dadumdadum5350]

And what if it doesn’t spin at all?

[@jpaulglobal]

Can I pay someone to help input correct numbers n Vesc tool for my new 63100 motors? Venmo, Zelle, Apple Pay? I'm desperate! Thanks!

[@MBoardsco]

Shoot us an email! [e-mail]

[@chrisgayle1623]

What is erpm?

[@MBoardsco]

It electronically limits the motors RPM.

[@tylerkarkruff4918]

You should offer some discount codes for orders to Canada! I know a lot of people would appreciate that!

[@MBoardsco]

Will look into this!

[@redrighthandarts]

i feel less nervous about spending $200 on vescs for my hoverboard project now

[@electricicboards9844]

Lowest V Samsung 30q =2.5V