Robot Investigates the Fuel Capacity of the Piaggio Liberty Scooter

[@DailyFlorence]

Please make more videos for piaggio liberty

[@kboldin]

I was very curious about this topic, I use pump siphon to fill mine. Much cleaner than the gas station, the pumps at the station are two fast and it makes it hard to fill a "full" tank. My two knits about my Liberty, small fuel tank and no self canceling turn signals. Other than that, I love my scoot!!!! It's a blast to ride!!

[@SheliaGasson]

Thanks for posting a great video and providing so much knowledge as always! I love my Liberty 150 and just did a ride today over 200 miles.

[@VOYTE]

What kind of fuel you put in your scooter ?

[@sebastianparra5516]

Thank you! I just bought a Piaggio BV and when I fueled for the first time, I freaked out after a few a minutes it seemed like I lost one quarter of the fuel. But now I understand why Best channel ever 🎉

[@jamesconner3437]

This video does give a good estimate of usable capacity, but the claimed mpg is I believe very optimistic. I'm 77 and i ride a lot of 20-25 mile " get out of the house" runs, a few 40-60 mile runs, and in good weather some weekend 100 milers.( those are all round trip distances). I'm getting more like 60 mpg and 100 per tank. Definitely not a touring bike...lol.....but a nice comfortable machine for the way I use it. Had a 2014 Fly 150 before. Very similar, but the Liberty does handle rough pavement a bit better, and has a bit more confident feel at 50+ mph. My comments on this machine : I live in the near suburbs of Chicago, but I came from East Tennessee hilly terrain. I miss the scenery of my rides, but in the hills the 150cc might struggle quite a bit. I had a minimum of 250cc when I lived there. But, for joy rides like I do now, the Liberty 150 S is very nice. I only wish there were not 40 dozen fasteners to remove when taking off all body panels for a good cleaning or for more involved maintenance. I would take this scooter over Honda PCX for dollar value first purchase, and over Yamaha SMax 155 for value and for comfort, although the Yamaha does handle around town a bit quicker.

[@bobd.4967]

Nice double check Robot. I have 150 and love it. Great information.

[@dimitrisg.4504]

Hello. Imagine doing this every morning when you're on a rush to get to your job!😂👍 Seriously, very good video indeed. Robot, I use to refill when the light is on or before. I love my fuel pump!

[@VespaMotorsport]

Thanks 👍

[@busterinny4808]

thanks for the video! Yes, you were pretty much solely responsible for my decision to buy a Liberty last year after watching your reviews! LOL. I am mostly happy with it. I would say the trouble with filling it is one of the biggest negatives with the scooter, since it's something that I do quite often. Also, the need for premium fuel is a bummer. Keep up the great work, and thanks again!

[@VespaMotorsport]

Thanks for sharing!

[@TomWagemaker]

Pop out the little green thing in the gas filler, and when the pump first stops, pull out the gas hose, and hold back the big plastic piece, and keep adding gas a click or two at a time, and you get a whole lot more. Been doing it for a while.

[@TheExpendableGuy1]

Many thanks for this video Robot ! (and all the other ones, it's always interesting). As an owner of a Liberty 125, the fuel tank capacity has been quite a mystery to me ! I had no idea it was shaped like this. The maximum amount of gas I had to pour in was 4,54L. I usually do it when it hits the reserve.

[@dimitrisg.4504]

Hi there. So you have 6 liters in total. Robot was right. It's a good habit to refill when the light comes on in order to protect the fuel pump 👍

[@TheExpendableGuy1]

Yes indeed ! As long as I'm in the city or nearby it's not a problem, but if I ever go further I may not be able to refill when the light is on. With 4,5 L I usually do between 180 km (in winter) and 220 km (in summer), around 200 km most of the time.

[@dimitrisg.4504]

@@TheExpendableGuy1 You're right.

[@4711StGermain]

I've had my 2018 Liberty150i since summer of 2017 and never had a problem getting the last bar lit when fueling. Use flashlight to check the level down the neck - use Vespa trick of aligning pump handle N & South with the wheelbase. Love this scooter and its new Angels! Or fuel it up at home from your can of SHELL! I do. Thanks Robot - good to know it holds 6-Lt.

[@DearMajesty]

One more thing ill say is that the scooter being on the center stand and unloaded will affect the usable capacity as the angle of fuel/fuel pump is changed. Ive noticed propping up the scooter on the center stand often gets the fuel gauge up one bar vs sitting on the bike. I weigh 210 pounds. Lets say 220 with gear.

[@maghook27]

Hey Robot. I like your Videos so much. greetings from Switzerland. Great Vepsa-Land!

[@VespaMotorsport]

Hey, thanks!

[@TomWagemaker]

I got 1.6 gallons once when I was dead empty. Thought I was gonna run out in Descanso. And the gas tank does suck, but the Liberty 150 is a fantastic bike! So it’s not even an inconvenience once you overflow the gas a couple times.

[@DearMajesty]

How many miles did you go on the low fuel light?

[@andreamarino9255]

interesting as always

[@Kriden19008]

Another very helpful and informative video. Hope you had a nice “off season” (can’t ride over here in Philadelphia, PA). Can’t wait for weather to get into Spring. Thanks as always for these great and very much appreciated videos.

[@Designer_Opine]

I’ve been good using the 20 mile max when the low fuel light displays on my 300 gts. A little body rocking to settle the fuel always helps when trying to brim the tank.

[@1960ARC]

It surprised me it holds what the manual says. I think the way you did this tells you the usable fuel, which is more important than just knowing how much fuel you can put in to the tank. My SH125i says it holds 7 litres, but I often put in 7.75 litres. Most milage I've had is dead on 200 miles. My Primavera from full to empty did 206 miles before it stopped. I had a tin with half a litre under the seat.

[@gerardgerard5681]

How long does it take to fill the tank? Looks like it's fiddly.

[@GIGABACHI]

Great job, Robot ! 🙂👍

[@VespaMotorsport]

Thank you 😀

[@joelstorrs7294]

My GTS has a claimed fuel capacity of about 2.25 gallons, but it has never taken more than 2 gallons to fill up. Maybe I should experiment a little and figure out what my fuel reserve is after the light comes on.

[@benhesterly462]

Thank you for the information . Have you done a video on how to carry extra fuel or could you?

[@kuntador1359]

Is the equalizing phenomena same with Beverly 350? I never had my fuel needle to reach top.

[@Tom-sg4iv]

Good information about the layout of the tank, I did not know this. Last filling I went 30 km city driving after the light came on, I filled 5,6 liters. Mine is 2020 Euro 4, the new Euro 5 I think has an evap canister, so you have to be more careful not to overfill. What happens if you drive it empty, just refill and cycle the ignition a few times or will it need a workshop visit?

[@pinturayfotografiafilms.8831]

thank you sir, for give us all that important info.

[@thomaslemay8817]

Before fuel injection and fuel cooled and lubricated pumps, I would fill the gas tank and a can of gas strap it on the back and ride the bike till the engine quit dump in can of fuel go to a fuel station fill it up . By doing that I get all the information from the beginning so I know exactly how far I can go and how big the reserve is . I think the low fuel light is more to protect those fuel pumps than it is to tell you how much range you have remaining .

[@EnergyEruption]

Agreed. A Piaggio mechanic here in Greece just told me that I should always have at least 2 'lines' of gas in the tank to protect the fuel pump, especially in the summer. I have the Liberty 150 Euro 5 and the summers here are quite brutal so it makes sense.

[@rimkach]

Hi Robot, I have a pretty weird situation, my Liberty 50cc has just 100 miles and I'm on my second fill up. When I leave in morning, all the bars are full, after about 7h under the sun the gauge shows me an error, the smallest bare and the biggest bar flashes with the fuel symbol. Is it the heat that causes trouble? The next morning everything is correct, and the cycle begins again

[@stevelansdowne]

My 2021 Liberty 150’s fuel light stays on after only 90 miles. The bike has only 400 miles on it. I assume this means the fuel level indicator jumped the gun. Should my MPG improve after I put more miles on the bike?

[@drdreddmanofmystery9482]

Any thoughts on how to increase fuel capacity? Like a second tank?

[@MrDonkov]

Thanks for the video, very informative. Keep it up

[@baomao7243]

Like airplanes, there is a material difference between fuel capacity and usable fuel capacity. Good to verify.👍

[@jamesconner3437]

The only way to have full confidence of maximum distance is to carry a small container of petrol and run normal driving speeds till the engine starts to quit. Then put in the petrol and drive to a station for fill up.

[@jamesvandemark2086]

Very useful!

[@paulc2953]

I’m concerned about the hassle of pumping, but also getting the correct octane, as the Liberty needs premium fuel, has a small tank, and the Costco long fuel lines hold a lot of gas. I might pump quite a bit of 87 before the 93 starts. My solution: when the scooter is getting low on fuel, I fill my MINI Countryman with 93 octane first, then pump exactly 1 gallon in a can for the Liberty. I fill the Liberty 50 at home from that can, which is all 93 octane, right when the light comes on. My experience is that at light on and no bars, 1.0 gallon gives me a full tank. If I go a few more miles, I do 1.1 gallons. Seems to work.

[@bruceketcheson4877]

very odd

[@jamesconner3437]

Not an odd thing, unless I too am odd....lol. But, I only use mid-octane 91 here in Chicago, and it works great.

[@paulc2953]

@@bruceketcheson4877 Yeah, I'm odd that way. I also factor in how far I've driven and the tires have warmed up when I inflate them to spec. Change out the summer washer fluid in my cars for winter before the temps drop in late fall. Rotate my car's tires religiously at 6,500 miles, and measure the tread depth to see if an alignment or inflation level needs adjusting. Change the oil and filter on my cars before the maintenance spec, particularly on the turbo engines. Ignore the factory's "lifetime" assertion on my Jeep's coolant and tranny/diff fluids. Guess I'm just a nut.

[@DrLevinson]

Thats my proble, here in germany (usa should have the same), benzin stops automatically, and it gives me only less than 3liters usually, then I continue manually to fill another 1.5liter or so. This is very weird solution from Piaggio Liberty 50s 4t

[@broberts1581]

Could you do a tutorial on draining the fuel tank?

[@forrysc]

That was my chief compliant with the liberty 150. The gas gauge. My racing 60s 150 doesn’t suffer from the the same. Personally, the liberty 150 is the better scooter between the two. The cost is almost unbeatable. I love the style of the Vespa. The bigger wheels and utility of the liberty is better imo.

[@Darificevlog9560]

Thankc iam from morocco loomin vine number model 2008 wher is please

[@fdp6919]

Hola puede hacer un vídeo haciendo el reglaje de válvula de la Liberty 125 e5

[@stevelansdowne]

My 2021 Liberty 150 has only 400 miles on it. The low gas light came on at 89 miles after a full tank. This seems too soon. Ideas?

[@paulc2953]

Steve, my Liberty 50 gets about 80 miles (based on the bike’s odometer, which I think means probably more like 75 actual miles) before the light comes on. I think you are doing well to get 89 with the 150cc engine.

[@jamesconner3437]

Mileage will improve with age a bit, but 100 for fairly normal traffic is not bad. As Robot shows, that is 1.6 gals used, and about 60 mpg. The fuel pump tube will not pick up the last bit of gas in the Liberty tank and will start to sputter out.

[@Freebird1765]

Good info, one thing ive noticed about the low fuel light on my Fly is it will come on earlier depending on whether you're on level ground or not, something to think about when trying to estimate total range of a full tank.

[@VespaMotorsport]

Great point!

[@braxtonperry1981]

Great. Job Robot 🛵

[@roywalls5595]

I know because over fill the fuel tank some time! Mr Robot

[@DearMajesty]

Awesome haha. I don't know why Piaggio had to make the Liberty 150 such a pain in the ass to fill and with such a small gas tank. 2 or more gallons would have been more appropriate. The Vespa Primavera 150 doesn't have any such problems filling at the gas station. So unbelievably annoying

[@UncleVoodoo]

Great, now show us how to add a power socket PLEASE!!! I might have to skip the Liberty as being able to power my phone on the move for long periods is a requirement.

[@Tom-sg4iv]

You can buy a cheap $5 one from AliExpress and install it without taking too much apart if your fingers are not too big. Just drill a hole through the top of the glove box, and fish the wire out through the small opening removing the Piaggio emblem on the front. Red wire to one of the fuses, black wire on the nut towards the bottom of the opening. You can see in the manual which fuses are always on and which are switched, or use a multimeter.

[@UncleVoodoo]

@@Tom-sg4iv too late, bought something else yesterday.

[@sebj7010]

Again............ have you any information on adding a trailer to be towed by a Vespa?

[@danielwebster7030]

Robot, you've covered alot on the BV350. BUT, BUT, there is one thing not covered unless I missed it in any of your videos... How to fix the broken cable that unlocks the scooters seat??? Is there a book with illustrations or pics, that you'd recommend on fixing this type of problem? Thank you for your videos. They are a big help to those of us who love the Piaggio BV350. 💯

[@1960ARC]

Lol, my seat release stopped working on my Primavera a while ago and not seen a video on it anywhere!

[@davebarrowcliffe1289]

A Vespa has a fuel pump? Wow! Why? Baffling!

[@nmnfoundation6275]

Full discloser Robot, the Liberty does not come from Italy. It comes from their factory in Viet Nam.