VFR Flight Following

[@bho382]

Good information, just practiced this on a short XC into Class C yesterday. You really have to listen closely in a high traffic area.

[@YamahaC7SRG]

Very nice job!! Beautiful panel! Reminds me why I live and fly in the sparsely-populated air around Idaho!

[@jamescarroll6954]

Thanks for the great aerial shots of the area where I grew up! Always enjoy learning from you, too.

[@Crownbagavenger]

From a radio dj that wants to learn to fly to a guy that sounds like he should be in radio that can fly, great videos sir!

[@markbrown2450]

Great to see another video Garry! Thanks for the clear explanation of the steps involved.

[@alanmohlman3530]

Thanks for very good video. Just getting back into this after 30 years.!!

[@747-pilot]

Wish you the best for the flying!

[@diku9111]

Thank you, Garry, always waiting for new videos to come up. Regards from Berlin, Germany

[@joecarpenter4522]

Your videos bring back some great memories! I earned my Private Certificate out of KCRQ in 04'! That airport was/is pretty challenging dealing with everything from fellow light trainers to "Barnstormer 1 and 2" and small to mid cabin Cessnas, Falcons, and Gulfstreams!

[@AV8R_1]

Great video! One thing that may help new pilots too, is to show them how to find out who to make the initial call to when picking up FF while already enroute. It may not be the same controller as your departure airport.

[@eastwoodisme]

Great radio work!

[@dennardtv]

Great instructions and very professional!

[@garretttomasek3435]

I'm doing my first solo cross country pretty soon and learning the radio has by far been the hardest thing I have had to do

[@johndemitry8218]

Outstanding

[@mcshiggitypilot5901]

Thanks lots of great info here!

[@rgldr1190]

great video, thanks garry! the audio from ATC was a little muffled, I think some more subtitles would have been really helpful.

[@kvasnaik8920]

Thanks you helped my confidence

[@ThaiGirlAdventures]

so amazing and great video.

[@JL-rb7ns]

When you flew through the bravo was that a published VFR Class B transition or can you just request to transition through from wherever

[@GarryWing]

No route; just cleared into the Bravo. Sometimes they'll say _"cleared into San Diego Class Bravo, direct Gillespie..."_, so you don't take their clearance to mean that you can now overfly Miramar or Lindbergh, etc...

[@JL-rb7ns]

+Garry Wing so is it just local knowledge that you can usually get cleared through that part of the bravo? And is it something you asked for or did ATC offer it

[@GarryWing]

Just a transition through the Bravo, to my destination. You can request it, or in the case of an airport adjacent to Bravo airspace, they will generally just give it to you... but either way, *be sure* you have the clearance before you enter!

[@1589chicago]

every time i fly with atc involved there is some kind of issues..... ;( and why are they always grumpy .... seems like non controlled airports work better and smoother

[@mrwonk]

The note on class D airspace may not be entirely accurate. I have often used flight following traveling between California and Florida. At KWJF, the tower controller came on approach and was less than pleased that I hadn't moved to his tower frequency prior to entering his airspace. Even though I had been on with controllers the entire way from my last stop in Arizona. Not sure if this was just that airport or controller, but you may want to make sure you get handed off before you cross into a Delta or Charlie.

[@FareeqAbelHammed]

You are amazing

[@jakew9887]

Great Video. Thanks

[@adamzolnowski9778]

The words across the bottom indicate you are cleared into class C but not into Class D. Is that a typo as you are talking about Class B? Or do I need to work some more with my instructor? :-) love your videos and glad to see you back!

[@GarryWing]

Good question, and sorry for the confusion. When using VFR Flight Following, you still need a clearance into the Bravo; but as the subtitles say, you _are_ 'cleared' into *Class-C* because that only requires establishing 2-way communication; which you obviously have, as you're talking to TRACON. _But_, as the second sub-title says, you are _not_ cleared into Delta; that requires 2-way comm with *Tower* (they control Class-D; not TRACON). This becomes important around here, because often southbound traffic on VFR Flight Following traipse into Ramona or Gillespie's Class-D while talking to SoCal, and that's a no-no.

[@drfaustus72]

The Class D requirement is interesting and I wasn't aware of it at all. I thought it was just ATC. The way it's often taught it seems like a hierarchy - if you fulfill requirements for B, then you do for C, and if you fulfill for C you do for D. I cannot ever recall someone explicitly telling me that you need tower coms for D. So thanks for that good piece of info. I guess this would come into play when TRACON doesn't hand you off in time to tower.

[@GarryWing]

Yes... _and_ you also need clearance to land (just 'clearance', not 'final clearance'; no such thing) at a Class *B* airport.... _and_ clearance to taxi, etc., but this was a video on Flight Following, not on landing at an airport.... And remember, you're not going to get a 'clearance' to enter Class C or D airspace; that's inferred when you establish 2-way communication. I've never heard a Class-B Tower give a clearance into Bravo airspace; can you give an example of where that is done?

[@ItsAllAboutGuitar]

That's a great question. I thought the same thing and I'm glad to find out that I was also incorrect.

[@Jopanaguiton]

Garry Wing Lindbergh tower gives clearance when flying the shoreline transition at 500 ft or the Taxi way Delta transition at 1500ft. Whenever you’re in the inner ring of the bravo at or below 2500 ft Tower usually gives the bravo clearance. 2500 ft and above it is within Tracon’s sector.

[@johnpro2847]

Flight following ? we do not have that here in Australia to my knowledge..

[@h2oski1200]

"position checks" is the equivalent of "with you". both suck and are not necessary. I'm surprised you use 'position checks' but are against 'with you'.

[@GarryWing]

How do _you_ confirm accuracy of positions given upon receiving radar services? FAA's _Instrument Procedures Handbook_ says: _"Aircraft are advised of their position to confirm identity... The pilot is expected to advise the controller if in disagreement with the position given."_ (page 2-46). I'm going to be at SoCal tomorrow, so I'll ask a couple controllers *their* thoughts on whether they like to get confirmation back from pilots...

[@h2oski1200]

did SoCal provide any feedback?

[@GarryWing]

Yes; I wrote an article about it: flythewing.com/308/Blog/Entries/2016/7/26_SoCal_TRACON_Tour.html

[@h2oski1200]

great article! really interesting about SoCal and ADS-B usage. thanks!