Class D Traffic Pattern - Radio Communications

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Live streamed video of traffic pattern and tower communications technique at one of the busiest Class D airports in the country. This is a great demonstration of how to handle radios in a congested airspace.
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[@ger320]

86 yr old former private pilot here, with not a whole lot of hours. I was a rural area flyer most of my flying and was always intimidated by radio, so I found this very illuminating. Thank you.

[@txhunter144]

Your video has helped greatly, I watched it about 3 or 4 times. Yesterday I flew into Class D (solo) for some pattern work and everything went well. I'm a 25-hour student pilot and radios are my greatest concern. Real-world videos like this have a very positive impact on training and I wanted to thank you for taking the time to produce it. I wish you and your ground school all the best.

[@Centurion54X]

im going to solo for the first time in class D airspace tomorrow, this was as helpful as riding there today with my instructor

[@anthonywilden9342]

Foster Doss cq

[@Ezel21love]

Yes, I have the same problem. Did you get improved? How can you help me to do so?

[@gorilla_cuck_enjoyer4936]

txhunter144 was getting a private pilot certificate hard ?

[@kif02]

@@gorilla_cuck_enjoyer4936 it takes a lot of studying and its taken over a year for me, but its too hard once you get the basics down

[@johnpro2847]

The little hand written check list @ 3:30 into the airport ..a must have if not familiar also I do a sketch of runways, position of Terminal /tarmac area and the windsock. Really helps.

[@rchandraonline]

As I remember flight instructor Dennis saying to Steve "FlightChops" Thorne, paper and pencil don't get cracked screens, don't run out of battery, don't usually crash, or any of a number of any technical difficulties. So writing your info on paper is a plus in a lot of circumstances.

[@josfielden8622]

I liked it that you were nice and clear. Nothing wrong with doing a couple of turns before entering the airspace to give you time to get your act together

[@hvacmike1175]

I learned to fly out of KFXE, this is a extremely busy class D airport. you could be #4or 5 waiting to take the active runway. until last week I had not flown for eleven years. I was very nervous and did not do very well on my first flight with my instructor and was thinking of cancelling my lesson today. after watching this video it reminded of how comfortable I was flying in busy airspace and dealing with multiple airports with class B, C, and D airspace. so THANK YOU I'm heading to mid Florida in Tavares this am for my second flight in years.

[@robertblake7145]

Excellent flying, instruction, and video production! Thanks, bob

[@FlyLubeFly]

Just to see you enjoying yourself on the touch and goes is amazing. Keep up the great work.

[@dukeswyers]

Great stuff! Thanks a million for posting!

[@julianaturchetti3408]

Awesome video! Thank you for sharing so much great information! Blue skies and fly safe!

[@kipchickensout]

this is very nice to watch, good that you repeat what the tower mumbles. definitely dropping a sub

[@FreePilotTraining]

Great video! Keep up the good work!

[@geoffheard5768]

G'day Russell, just stumbled onto this fine video of yours. I trained partially at Moorabbin (YMMB) in Melbourne Australia. Same deal as the field in the video. Two parallel N/S runways that get VERY busy on the weekends. You could be flying down final to 35L, glance at the holding point, and have 8 or so students lined up for takeoff. Busy circuit. Thanks for a great live stream, subscribed to your channel. Cheerio.

[@oubobcats27]

I'm a student at PDK right now! Thanks for the video!

[@fijician6307]

Solid video. Helped a lot with my radio work.

[@LuizFonsecaDefensiva]

An amazing video, thanks !!! I´m a former air traffic controller in Brazil and your talking and ATC communications are a very good example of what to do and to expect on radio when flying ANYWHERE !

[@derekrowan11]

Thats not ATIS, thats an audiobook!!

[@scottskinner577]

Yeah lol Listen to KDFW ATIS. You'll laugh

[@edwardhotchkiss9085]

When I fly out of the airport, there is a number to listen to ATIS.It is better on the smart phone speaker. I can also listen to it repeat. This has several hotspots on taxiways. Always fly with the diagram for SA.

[@DNModels]

You got me subbed with that one. Thanx!

[@gevmage]

Yeah, I've flown in and out of KPDK a couple of times. It's really busy. Most of the time it's busier than most class-C airports. This video was a very good flavor of it. One minor quibble. This video was uploaded in November 2017, and presumably was shot fairly shortly before that. The runway diagram shown at 0:25 in this video was even at that time at least three years out of date. 09/27 was removed as a runway sometime before April of 2014. I was on an airliner departing Atlanta in early 2014, and I snapped a photo of the airport with hangars built on what had been the approach end of 09. That area appears just under the left wing at 13:12 in this video. The reason I know the date is that I have that photo from above KPDK and it's posted in a blog entry dated April 26, 2014.

[@user-uv4xe3cq2y]

I thoroughly enjoyed your video....thanks!

[@spawntez]

GREAT VIDEO AND AWESOME INSTRUCTION.

[@aice49]

Great video! Just stumbled upon this channel lol thats one more new subscription!

[@unclejack123]

well done ............ you guys are a class act ................... loved the Osh videos with "Uncle Paul" from AvWeb ................... JRW

[@caseykelso1]

great vid,bro!

[@luichek1858]

Fantastic video! Thx!

[@eggsaladsandwich23]

Thanks for the refresher! Real solid on the radio and was good for note taking. Should come in handy to finish off my flight review.

[@ikay2102]

Its nice to have subtitle on what atc tells you. Geeat video.

[@vanquishedcanadian6424]

I find it hood both ways... you need to be able to get used to not having subtitles as well. Your point still stands, of course.

[@thomassheehan4193]

That is his “Good Side”

[@sebastianbangheri7893]

Thank you very much for this!

[@jackzink740]

Excellent. Well done. Thank you.

[@plsniper]

I miss flying!!! Great CFI, awesome vid! Subscribed!

[@makkavalley9144]

“We’ll just use 2000” that made me laugh! Nice video.

[@SWC44]

NEW SUB, AND A BIG LIKE, LOVE YOUR CHANNEL, DON'T KNOW HOW I MISSED IT! THANKS

[@dwighttaylor5107]

So awesome thanks great content.

[@donaldrose4848]

Nice video! Thanks!

[@wrxbuzz]

Great Video ❤✈

[@zainhussein1975]

Thank u sir for uploading such informative videos. I fly on vatsim and learnt quite a bit. Just a question sir; how have u connected voice to the camera. It’s crystal clear Thanks

[@jakew9887]

Great Video. Thanks

[@369VIDEO]

Obrigado por sua ajuda

[@jonathanrosenfield8863]

Thank you for the awesome video!

[@lyingcat9022]

Damn. Quite the ATIS report.

[@bill832]

Well done!

[@RT10Viperman]

I don't know about Mark but I enjoyed it very much...!

[@chromewheel1]

Great Video

[@muhammadsteinberg]

Class "D" when busy is a mess. Every leg open to extension's, 360's and pattern changes if you're doing closed traffic work. Great for building confidence in radio work. As title says "Be On Top of Your Radios" and stay very alert visually if VFR and best you can in IMC.

[@the1chasman]

Another great video!

[@alexissuazo3122]

Thanks for sharing this video info.

[@GoldSealFlight]

Glad it was helpful!

[@robbierockin939]

thanks very much ,, just stummbled on your videos ,, nice way of teaching thankyou ,, i have 6 hrs ,, and a complete noob ...lol

[@muhammadfarooq5925]

I like this video ... My first lesson.... How to understand and use radio with control tower .. Thanks ...

[@billbaldwin8074]

Damn! You’re a great instructor. Thanks for the brilliant narration of your thought processes and radio work as you approach and land in the class D airspace. That was so helpful. Is Gump an acronym? What does it signify.

[@atlantahobbyuavexperts4759]

Very helpful!

[@ProfessionalPilot]

Reminds me of flying in and out of KADS. Had 12 aircraft in the run-up area yesterday waiting for t/o in between all of the landings....

[@wagnergitirana]

Great video, Russell!

[@jerryhoward7910]

Got my private there in 1980. Was busy then too. PDK flight academy. Great memories and great experience ........ 704 pf

[@terrycarver1255]

Any way you can do a military base corridor such as Eglin? I live around there and could use some expertise on that?

[@mountainof7]

Excellent. Thx

[@kurtschu2846]

Thank you, excellent ! What is PDK' Tower's 05/08 comment at the 8:30 video time mean? Also - even when you are squaking 1200, you must ident for ATC? You are a very professional guy - wish you were in SAn Diego, I'd be on my way over to sign up.

[@deesequatre5596]

He's using 1200 on the transponder which is the general frequency for VFR flights without Flight Following from ATC. Because the controller has a big screen with many aircraft, when somebody calls him up he will ask them to 'IDENT" which makes the aircraft flash on his screen so he can find the Aircraft calling him and verify the information given to him over radio. Once he sees the aircraft calling, he clears him into the airspace and sets him up for the requests. In this case, they wanted to do some touch and goes, so the controller told him to join Downwind, and the standard entry is a 45degree entry. The pilot here was anticipating all this and was arriving VFR from the side of KPDK which would make navigation quick.

[@makkavalley9144]

I learned something! They teach me to maintain runway heading in training…it’s because of parallel runways. If you drift too much to one side, an accident could happen.

[@danielbasovitch5087]

Your Videos are a great help to nubi pilots, I noticed that your door is not closed ! Was that an OOOPS?

[@steveandjensulewski2011]

I got my PPL there and used to work at Shelby Aviation pumping fuel and parking airplanes.

[@zainhussein1975]

Hi. Pls respond to my question😊 How u connected the headphones to the camera to get such crystal clear sound

[@pasxen1744]

Hey, you can connect any recording device into the intercom via a the planes plug. He has a buddy in the back left seat with a laptop helping with the live stream. Their exact setup probably has audio and video plugged via USB feeds. The video has been edited since the live stream it looks like. If you want something for your own personal setup research any audio recorder where you can get plugs for a 1/4" audio jack into the device you purchase.

[@pilotmedic]

Good job

[@loveplanes]

31L and 31R? those are the new 3L and 3R? :) Thanks for the video!!

[@kennymonroe758]

It looks like you right side door wasn't secured. Was this intentional or missed step on the checklist?

[@melintexas4506]

Great video! Wish you were closer to Texas. I'd enjoy having you as an instructor.

[@marcelodorio1]

Very nice sir!! I wish you operate helicopters too, nothing out there as good for the helicopter pilot community.

[@foxzonenredstudio7501]

nice work Gold Seal Flight Training :)

[@xsifax]

What are you using for the live video? And audio?

[@lidiaquinillo7657]

pleasure pore pleasure....good flying

[@daffidavit]

Gold Seal: As Iceman would say: "you can be my wingman anytime". "No Ice, you can be my wingman".

[@poweronstall2231]

Thank you

[@cowebb2327]

Nicely done. Flew In and out of Peachtree many years back When flying into Atlanta for business in my T-210. This brings back many good memories. Curious, why are you flying right seat?

[@GoldSealFlight]

We do almost all of our videos from right seat. It's to provide a pilot's perspective with the instructor to his/her right.

[@kurtschu2846]

Thanks, Man - You are one cool cat. I guess even though you are squawking 1200, you still must ident? What is the meaning of the Tower's 05/08 comment at 8:35? Also, please advise if you have made or know of an animated spot-view vid that would show all this traffic for the student to simultaneously see and visualize all of the other traffic to understand the bigger picture. Thank you for this and your other very useful videos !

[@TheAndres512]

kurt schu 05008 means the direction and the wind speed. Wind coming from the 050 degree and the speed is 8 kts. Sometimes tower gives you this information so you would have an idea of your wind corrections when landing.

[@imchristopherjamal]

Controller/pilot here. Most towers are equipped with a radar that helps us deconflict aircraft and locate you when you check-in on initial call up. If the airspace is busy and there are multiple targets in or around the Delta, an altitude and distance report may not be sufficient enough for us to correctly identify you. In that case, we'll have a pilot ident. The pilot's target will then flash on our radar once he presses the IDENT button in the cockpit.

[@motoys4me]

Thanks for the video. Why are you flying with the door open?

[@GoldSealFlight]

We had some cables running out there. Nice that it also kept the cockpit cooler.

[@tbeevers]

Quick question...do you reduce power when you're abeam the numbers or keep power the same and add 10 degrees of flaps? I've had two instructors teach me both ways. I prefer to reduce the power but my current instructor teaches to not touch the throttle until I make my turn to base.

[@spencergeorge4941]

I was taught to cut the power as part of the configuration process. The downwind to base turn should happen after a descent has been established, which requires a reduction in power. Of course, if you’re doing an extended downwind, that might change

[@ramimehyar481]

Very useful, why are you flying right seat though?

[@alainsaints6395]

Great

[@angelamorley9921]

What I'd like to see more of is radio communications when engaged in closed traffic at a towered airport. I saw a little here in this video. What's confusing is should you be calling your turns, or just make them assuming the ATC knows what's going on?

[@GoldSealFlight]

Hello Angela. Calling turns is not done at towered airports unless the controller stipulates it (which rarely happens).

[@kingcoreyair]

I'm 5 months into my Private Pilot training at Miami Executive Airport Class D. I solo this Saturday. Good thing about training at a Class D is I already know the radio communications.

[@MrRJDio]

Did my training at a D also… beneficial on radios for sure.

[@alfredbrinker9017]

Can you do an IFR live stream if the Cessna 182 can handle that? If not, maybe VFR in a class Bravo airspace?

[@openbabel]

Try flying into the jetcentre at San Jose CA

[@snaprollinpitts]

great video, and explanation, thanks a thumbs up and a sub from me mike

[@tonymerlot9305]

You have a busy radio but when you're told you're number #1 for touch and go then you don't have to radio them when your turning base/final?

[@GoldSealFlight]

There's no base/final radio report required. There were two touch and goes in the video; both were cleared and acknowledged on the downwind leg.

[@TenMinuteTrips]

At my local Class D airport, if I fail to include the runway number in my acknowledgement of a landing/option clearance, the tower controller will ask me to “Verify cleared to land two-eight left.” I will then have to read back the clearance. I noticed that in this video, you got away without mentioning the runway in the acknowledgment, twice. The controller should have called you on that.

[@gbigsangle3044]

It is required to say the runway number for all clearances..you must readback all crossings, hold shorts and when told to line-up-and-wait.

[@edwardhotchkiss9085]

The tower is a training tower.

[@luismedina1899]

Good.

[@philniemerg6674]

I could not understand the controller when he cleared you for the option. I kept replaying but could never fully understand just what he was saying. THIS is why new pilots like myself are leary of controlled airspace. These controllers talk so fast and sometimes garbled that we have a hard time understanding what we are being told.

[@JamesDevoy]

Phil Niemerg I’m a Scottish low hours new PPL just moved to Chamblee. Next door to PDK. I have started flying out of PDK. Took 5 dual hours with local school just to get some confidence on the radio and dual runways. Have to say it’s a real challenge trying to understand the controllers accents and speed. I’m sure it’s same for them with my accent. However in all my business activities ( I do lots of presentations and public speaking) I never have ‘understanding ‘ issues. It’s just I guess the speed and tempo of PDK ATC.

[@scottskinner577]

Hes right, you know. I listen to KDFW daily, and its almost like some controllers/pilots communicate using telepathy, but speak as a formality. **Cue the X-files theme song**

[@omgtwlol]

I think the problem isn't with the accent, but radio interferance. Some people need longer to get used to this very artificial sound.

[@muhammadsteinberg]

Not just there...KDWH gets like that at times. It's almost as if they're competing for entry into Guinness. Always ask for a repeat if you don't understand. They'll eventually get the message to slow down.

[@douglashagan65]

Yeah very little flight time I have a class d license and I'm flying a Pan am jet with 274 pastors on board everything seems normal this time speeding altimeter range is correct fuel levels are proper looks like we are on time it's the Sacramento and we'll be alive 24 minutes I hope you enjoyed your flight this is Captain Douglas Hagen thank you for trying and airlines

[@douglashagan65]

Yeah if I'm not listening to my radio and I'm sleeping on duty I'm probably going to end up in a crash up here so basically the radio traffic control is going to keep telling me what's going on the radio so that I can figure out what kind of weather conditions are going on and whether and what's going on in the landing area zone where if there's a lot of traffic down there in the airport I might not be able to land right on time so yes I'm waiting for any type of instructions from Air traffic control and regards to my flight so this is Captain Douglas second so far everything's fine very few hours up here but I feel confident

[@miletello1]

Look at that stache!

[@larrylewislarry]

Information November! WTF?!? Why would they include the status of the REIL during daylight?!?

[@PilotVolunteer]

Question please. Why a touch n go at a busy airport?

[@GoldSealFlight]

So that you can see how it's done.

[@rayperson6207]

On your final touch and go, I didn’t hear you remove carb heat for climb out,.. unless you have fuel injection.

[@gorilla_cuck_enjoyer4936]

What is ATIS

[@randyrankin3604]

what does that mean-following golf

[@deesequatre5596]

There was another aircraft that landed or was moving and one of the taxi ways was golf. Initially I thought she was on 03R and was going to cross the runway that he was doing his landing on. Now I'm not so sure. Skyvector website has the diagram so you can follow along for free.

[@Hopeless_and_Forlorn]

Another nice video, but your cheat sheet does not compute. Runways are 3/21 L and R, not 2/31.

[@lisafike8904]

Looks like you got your RWY's written incorrectly : should be 21L , 21R, 3L, 3R, and 16-34. 20 + 180 = 200 not 310 (31)

[@josephstarns4609]

Did I miss a video explaining why you're in the right seat?

[@squeecy9965]

Joey Starns - NarsAcoustic Cannibal usually instructors like to fly in the right seat for repetition

[@ironsirengaming9811]

What would happen if we attempted an approach with 0 flaps engaged?

[@GoldSealFlight]

Nothing, assuming that you are proficient in no-flap landings.

[@ironsirengaming9811]

@@GoldSealFlight I never attempted no flap landings in a C182 (which I think you're flying). I'd like to see a 0 flap landing if that's possible

[@loveplanes]

I want to land in 2L as well. :)

[@lants8096]

Class D airspace....I felt as if it were being thrown to the wolves a few times when I was starting out....then comes class C.....all have a lot going on......not to mention having to focus on safely operating the aircraft....in accordance with instructions per atc....

[@jeffdo9195]

KDVT and KSDL busier