VFR Sectional Explained! (All About Airports) Private Pilot Ground Lesson 25

[@jebr055]

Here is your answer to the 8069 foot question. When printing the runways in the circles, not only are they aligned to depict the actual runway heading, they also represent the length of the runway. A very short runway will easily fit inside the circle whereas an 8000 foot runway extends almost to the edge of the circle. An 8100 foot runway would extend past the edge of the circle, which would make it just look like two half circles. They round the lengths to even 100 foot lengths for the purpose of printing these. But they don't round up at 50, they round up at 70. So, an 8069 foot runway would get rounded to 8000 feet and fit in the circle. an 8070 foot runway would get rounded to 8100 feet and wouldn't fit. I know this is a long answer, but it's the simplest way I could think to explain it. hopefully it makes sense.

[@FreePilotTraining]

Wow 🤯 how did you learn that? I’ve always wanted to know the answer to that

[@nathanielmccarty3607]

That’s correct it has to do with the pixels available within the circles when they’re printed. 8,070 the pixels are just one too many to fit within the circles on the sectional.

[@alukuhito]

Cool. I wonder why someone chose to round at 7 rather than 5 though.

[@dwebb1518]

@@FreePilotTraining From the FAA Aeronautical Information Services FAQs: For purposes of airport depiction, specialists represent a runway between 7970 and 8069 feet in length as 8000 feet, which equates to a line 0.192 inches in length on the Sectional chart scale. In this case, a circular aerodrome symbol is used. If a runway is between 8070 and 8169 feet in length, specialists round to 8100 feet, which equates to a line 0.1944 inches in length on the sectional chart scale. This line is too long to fit into the largest circular aerodrome symbol FAA has available. Therefore, specialists place a line-work around the runway pattern forming a polygon (enclosed shape) for anything over 8069 feet in length. Specialists also place these polygons around the runway pattern of aerodromes with multiple runways that are less than 8069 feet, in cases where the multiple runway pattern does not fit into the largest, circular aerodrome symbol.

[@jasonkimball7617]

Thank you! Great, simple explanation with all relevant details!

[@GreenGuyDIY]

By the way, the star before L means pilot controlled lighting. Not just that there is something unusual. Of course you may need to check the supplement to know the frequency because it is not always the same as CTAF. The supplement will also inform the control features such as how many levels, mic click count, etc.

[@FreePilotTraining]

It doesn’t necessarily mean there will be pilot controlled lighting. I’ve seen fields that have the *L, but no Pilot controlled lighting. The legend says that it means “lighting limitations exist; refer to Supplement.”

[@Jomama_01]

I'm going through flight school pretty soon and i figured i'd check out a guide to VFR charts because they always looked scary. This definitely calmed me down a bit because it's not hard to read the map anymore. Still need to re watch and study them so I don't mess up. But damn I'd be lying if I said i wasnt scared about flight school. It's definitely the biggest thing i've ever done in my life and i want to give everything i have to succeed. Because I want to have a good future and secure a life for myself and future family. Sorry about the rant, im just terribly nervous and I needed somewhere to spew my feelings or it'd get in the way of my studies.

[@FreePilotTraining]

You’re not alone. You’ll do fine. It will be tough at first, but don’t give up. You will wake up at some point and everything will just click

[@iammikig1443]

Good luck boss

[@titusrobinson9663]

Hey man how'd it go? Im starting in like 3 days and im terrified. Im trying to learn as much as i can

[@Jomama_01]

@@titusrobinson9663 If your 141 my advice will help, if your part 61 then i dont know how it's going to go for you. The first 6 days straight were ground lessons with 2 exams, one in the middle of the 6 days and one on the final day. It's going to be stage 1 ground exam then on the last day stage 2 ground exam and the pre solo written exam. I reccomend you get the test guide book, its black and white made by jeppesen. After your first 6 days you will be mentally exhausted. You will study everyday for 5+ hours depending on your mental aptitude. After those 6 days you finally get to fly, but you have to keep studying for your solo checkride and oral exam. Im currently on flight lesson 4, i would be on flight lesson 8 if not for a bunch of issues that rose up anyways. REMEMBER THIS, you need to overestimate how much the workload is going to be so that its not that tough on you. Remember to decompress and do things when you're not studying to destress. You will do great. Just remember to keep your eye on the prize.

[@Gman-sb3zf]

I learned so much from your channel, it exceeds any of the knowledge I got from ground school and or my instructors. Keep it coming.

[@FreePilotTraining]

I love hearing that! Thank you so much! I’m hoping to finish up another one in a few days!

[@DMacDaddy]

Pretty scary actually … 😂

[@livestock9722]

@@DMacDaddy For that reason, I'm actually considering becoming an instructor. Most young instructors are only there to put in hours and make a bit of money, and then leave halfway through someones training when they get a job offer.

[@Tybell350]

I love your lessons, I start commercial flight school in 1 month and I love soaking in all of this information in hopes of making school a little bit easier. Thank you!

[@FreePilotTraining]

Thank you! Happy to have you here on the channel!

[@literalnobody7921]

It’s been over a year since you’ve made this comment. Has studying before starting your flight training been useful?

[@Tybell350]

@@literalnobody7921 extremely useful! I definitely had a leg up on the rest of my class during private pilot ground school. Finishing up my commercial license and multi engine as we speak!

[@kaushikccu]

Another great lesson. Easy to absorb and remember. With my FAA knowledge test looming in a couple of weeks, this is just the reference I needed. Thanks so much!

[@FreePilotTraining]

Thanks! I’m sure you’ll do great!

[@blutowitz]

Your lessons are good but drawing white arrows on the chart to identify things you're talking about is very distracting. VFR charts are busy enough without added distractions.

[@FreePilotTraining]

Thanks for the feedback. My newer videos don’t use the hand. I hope to replace these older ones at some point

[@BlowingDressing-x1o]

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[@Aviationabsorbed]

Wow maps have changed so much in the last 3 years

[@ZakirHossenrgh]

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[@hmabboud]

@6:36 what is 9C, please?

[@FreePilotTraining]

Runway 9 Center (the center runway)

[@hmabboud]

@@FreePilotTraining Thank you! Any news about a VFR looking out side training? We still did not get one from you, sir :)

[@user-py1qy7gu2y]

I wish your hand wasn't in there. It districts my train of thought, but I'm gonna watch and learn anyway

[@FreePilotTraining]

Thanks for the feedback. I eliminated the hand in future videos. I hope to remake this video at some point

[@lestvee4948]

This is a good channel. But PLEASE STOP with the hand writting bs.

[@FreePilotTraining]

Stick with it. I don’t use the handwriting anymore and I have plans to replace these older videos

[@elijahryder313]

I think the random number has something to do with the scale length of the runway, above that number it becomes a drawn strip instead of one in a circle😊

[@FreePilotTraining]

Thanks! That’s super interesting

[@southerncrosshempoil]

Champion

[@ColeridgeOgden]

084 Meaghan Row

[@seniorgolfer]

Taken from the FAA Aeronautical Chart User's Guide: Runway length is the length of the longest active runway, including displaced thresholds and excluding overruns. Runway length is shown to the nearest 100', using 70 as the rounding point; a runway 8070' in length is charted as 81, while a runway 8069' in length is charted as 80.

[@FreePilotTraining]

Thanks! I can’t believe I didn’t see that! Great comment!

[@Teneshiab]

Explained clear as day. Thank you!

[@FreePilotTraining]

No problem!

[@albertpollard9295]

"Runway length is shown to the nearest 100’, using 70 as the rounding point; a runway 8070’ in length is charted as 81, while a runway 8069’ in length is charted as 80."

[@veronicajohnsen5999]

I learned it’s the longest they could depict because it’s to scale with the map.

[@garynnikki]

Here is the answer to your question: Runways up to 8,069 feet long are enclosed in the familiar circular airport symbol. But, according to the FAA’s Aeronautical Information Services, if a runway is longer than 8,069 feet the representative line is too long to fit into the largest circular airport symbol available.

[@FreePilotTraining]

Awesome! Thanks for the info!

[@paulcrooks3742]

Thanks. Taking my test next week

[@FreePilotTraining]

You’re welcome! Good luck!

[@Old-School-Aviator]

How do you know what type of airspace is?

[@misfittoytower]

Your videos are very helpful, well-thought out and clearly presented. That being said, that 'artist's hand' is really distracting and annoying. Nonetheless, thank you for the videos.

[@FreePilotTraining]

I appreciate the feedback. I have been trying to be a lot more conservative with the hand in my newer videos. You aren’t the only one to mention this

[@jasonpeters9295]

You guys leave me no choice. After viewing a number of your info-packed, no-nonsense, fact-filled, humorously-laced, instructional videos, I just have no choice but to . . . SUBSCRIBE!

[@FreePilotTraining]

Sweet! 🙌🏻 see you in the next one!

[@omarfaris8273]

I watched this video twice and I just realised that you were explaing my home airport SFB, and I live 8 minutes away from it.😂

[@FreePilotTraining]

Small world!

[@johnchan6191]

Wow, that vdo was so educational. The best compare 2 other vdo's. Thx 4 sharing on Utube.

[@FreePilotTraining]

Thanks John! That means a lot!

[@taylorfire10]

Did my checkride today, and this is what failed me. Wish i came across this video prior.

[@FreePilotTraining]

Sorry to hear that

[@hasantolgaucar8445]

I really appreciate your wonderful content, sir. Thank you

[@FreePilotTraining]

You’re welcome!

[@2oopb]

Thanks for the informative lesson, just curious.. how would you advise someone who is ab-initio to remember all these stuffs? Practice?

[@FreePilotTraining]

You’re welcome! I don’t know what that is, but yeah, it just takes practice

[@2oopb]

@@FreePilotTraining ah as in someone who has zero experience or starting from scratch.. because the chart looks like it is cobbled together with many various infos and patterns!

[@marktruesdale2613]

How can I buy the checkmate laminated checklist you recommended.

[@FreePilotTraining]

You can find some of them on Amazon, but you can also buy them directly from checkmate here www.checkmateaviation.com/aircraft-specific-cards.html

[@blue6980]

8069 ft = 2500 meters thats why I think

[@FreePilotTraining]

Ah, I never considered that

[@RuvimAbaras]

Thank you

[@FreePilotTraining]

You’re welcome

[@coreyjordan2745]

Thank you, excellence. I learned a lot.

[@FreePilotTraining]

You’re welcome!

[@vad8339]

Just a heads up, the FAA sectional guide you linked shows page not found

[@FreePilotTraining]

Thanks for the heads up! Looks like they updated it. Here’s the new one! aeronav.faa.gov/user_guide/20220714/cug-complete.pdf

[@ronldp7185]

@@FreePilotTraining FWIW, that link is showing Error 404 - file not found. It's like they don't want us to find it!

[@grantbunker1755]

Great video thank you, can't wait for more. The 8,069 foot runway is strange. I'm very curious as to why. Hopefully someone answers

[@FreePilotTraining]

Your welcome! I’m cranking them out as fast as I can. I try to improve the quality in every video too so it takes a while. Lol. Yeah, I thought about googling it, but I’m sure someone here knows the answer

[@messianichebrewshawnkawcak1550]

One guy said it’s about how they round up runway length to nearest 100. My guess as to why 8000’ length cutoff would be related to class of aircraft that can land there. Stopping distance and takeoff roll distance necessary for certain aircraft (Cessna, twin props, small jets, regional airlines, etc). I doubt commercial airline jets can use

[@c.allanreitan6529]

8069 feet is 1.52 SM, so it is just slightly longer than 1.5 miles. It is also approximately 1NM + 2,000', which would make it 1 1/3 NM distance. On the Sectional charts, one minute of Longitude is approximately 1NM over the ground, so the 8069 length would correspond to a runway that spans at a minimum two ticks on the Longitude scale.

[@chrisr6385]

The reason the upper limit is 8,069': The circumference of the airport circles on the charts are all the same size regardless of the length of the runway. 8,069' is the maximum runway length that fits within this circle in a chart (the runways on the chart are scaled to the circumference of these circles). Anything beyond this 8,069' would cause the scale of the runway to not fit within the circle. If the runway is over 8,069' it no longer is drawn within this circle. So it has to do with maximum pixels and scale that can fit within a specific circle 🔴 size on charts without going over.

[@zoozolplexOne]

cool !!!

[@FreePilotTraining]

Thanks!

[@MyUganda256]

Beautiful

[@FreePilotTraining]

Thanks!

[@allsizons3609]

You are a star!

[@FreePilotTraining]

Thank you!

[@TheAvGeek-kl3zf]

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[@rong4248]

It's because of the resolution of the printed charts I believe. 0.192" is as large as they can get to fit into the circle on the chart.

[@survivalhealthandhealingtv5651]

WAY TO FAST! SHOW AND EXPLAIN DETAILS MORE!

[@FreePilotTraining]

Thanks for the feedback