VFX Artists React to Bad & Great CGi 17

[@CorridorCrew]

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[@PatrickBergensen-kali-yuga2005]

Ok

[@DigitalMacGuffin]

I'm a 3D Artist who was alive and old enough to see Lawnmower Man on when it came out. It was released during the 'first age' of Virtual Reality and was trading in on the hype. It was considered awful then, no question. Sadly, so was the promise of virtual reality. The short Stephen King story it was based on has absolutely nothing to do with virtual reality either. All in all, the general consensus was that the film wasn't so much ruined by the limitation of computers or effects - for example, "If it only had amazing 3D it would have been an awesome' - more that it was just a bad story which was attempting to exploit the media hype around the promise new 'game changing' technology (VR /3D). It didn't help of course, that the 3D was awful, overly ambitious, and goofy.

[@aggad16]

Thanks for this, I was looking for the answer

[@Scripzure]

Didn't they say this came out after The Matrix and The Phantom Menace? It's no wonder people thought it was bad, because even for it's time it was.

[@psycoticanubis]

@@Scripzure No they said it came out after Terminator 2 which came out 1991. Lawnmower Man was 1992, The Matrix and Phantom Menace were both 1999.

[@LightninBolt]

I remember it being a pretty big deal. I also thought it was very entertaining and the FX stuff was exciting as new, if not perfect

[@FOCtv]

Well said. I'm not an SFX artist but I saw this movie in a theater with some friends, and we all thought it was just an exploitation film about virtual reality with mediocre effects.

[@macymiscellaneous3823]

"You cant have an expressive AND realistic lion" Tell that to narnia

[@littlebaldedone]

Exactly, their're *Lion*

[@derpanzerjager3258]

It's LION!! THEY'RE *LION*! You ruined the goddamn joke.

[@littlebaldedone]

@@derpanzerjager3258 sorry, I fixed it.

[@thefiresworddragon927]

My Cat Eats Bread Ehhh, kinda.

[@devilovesdevil]

This ^^

[@TraynArt]

RE: Lawnmower Man. I was 13 when I saw it in the theater. I remember that other than Stephen King, the major selling point of the movie was its CG, especially the shot of Job saying, "I am God here" being in all the trailers/tv spots. I think the appeal at the time was that unlike T2 and Jurassic Park before it, Lawnmower Man's VR sequences were not aiming for photorealism but hyperstylization. "Look how crazy we can get with computers!" seemed to be the message.

[@pottuvoi2]

Yup. Also the amount of CG was ~23 minutes against the Terminators ~5, the amount of work must have been staggering with the tools they had. (or had to make.)

[@menhinick1979]

just saw your post after quoting the same thing - CGI for artistic purposes only is exactly what I thought too, the movie was still a little weird but not unusual for Stephen King movies

[@mattwalk79]

Craziest thing about this movie is that it apparently had nothing to do with the original 10 page Stephen King story, and King sued the makers for using his name to promote it. The court ordered them to remove his name from the marketing. Then when it came out on VHS, they switched it back to "Stephen King's Lawnmower Man" all over again. There's a pretty hilarious episode of the "how did this get made" podcast on this movie that is worth checking out.

[@robertrijkers4923]

jurassic park came out a year and a half later...

[@insanemunchkin]

Don’t know how old I was, but I watched it on vhs and I loved it. Can’t remember what I thought of the effects though.

[@azuki_O]

I was a kid when the Lawnmower was out. And that CG terrified me.

[@MochitoMaker]

Like because it was a bad CGI or because it was so scary?

[@PetrCharousek]

@@MochitoMaker in my case it was terrific experience only and I still love that classic CGI nowadays. Terrify is just another word for me, very different :)

[@doghous3]

@@PetrCharousek Yeah, I was just about still a teenager when I saw this, my mates and I all loved the movie and thought it was great.

[@benn454]

Me too. That movie gave me nightmares.

[@KojinMacJorn]

FUCK YES IT DID. That movie scared the sweet shit out of me!

[@marylouasicksik8156]

I’m cracking up over the Lawnmower Man comment, “If you were alive around the time this movie came out, let us know.” I am so proud to say I am in that category. 😂 I was 18 when it came out and thought it was awesome. Looking back at it now I laugh but the awesomeness remains.

[@Halrawk]

I also saw it when it came out, and it was pretty amazing back then. Like I recall it being a little bit silly when compared to more realistic movies, but they really went for it. Like the scene's that had crazy CGI kind of made scene since it was mostly virtual.

[@diredier]

I was 11, the movie was mind-blowing to me back then :D

[@nathanliteroy9835]

It was very good because most of CGI they've shown in this clip from that movie didn't try to imitate real life - it all was happening in a virtual reality and this is how 3D models looked back then. So it's all right - if you would laugh at those models todey, you should laugh at all the computer games from that time too. So it's not the case of badly used CGI because it was actually appropriate

[@joshwright7229]

I was like 12 when this movie came out and loved it. Was the first movie I paid to watch on Pay-Per-View. I still love the movie despite the CG, I have to just turn that part of my brain off that judges it lol. Also this is the movie that made me a fan of Jeff Fahey.

[@Lumibear.]

It worked for me, I thought the CGI was stunning, and back then, it was. I’m sure the context it was used in helped loads, too, as recall it’s not meant to be photorealistic, it’s mostly a TRON type of virtual world.

[@rhyswilliams9993]

Id love to see a react of Sherlock Holmes: A Game of Shadows, where they're running from the weapons factory with cannons firing past them

[@RAMERAMAProductions]

rhys williams they covered this shot already and compared it to the slow mo battle scene in 300

[@richie1234schm]

Dont know if this has been said yet but the entire spy kids movie series had some interesting looking CGI...

[@Collty66]

In the same vein they should look at Sharkboy and Lavagirl too

[@gdhammr8113]

“Interesting”? That’s a weird way to spell “absolutely f***ing horrendous”.

[@theholycow9350]

Fuck spy kis i go to trauma when i sees it because of fuuuuccck cgi

[@eugenenalpin6058]

I haven't seen the Spy kids movies since I was 10, gotta check back on them, but they were really entertaining for me back then

[@meliodasnanatsu1718]

@@theholycow9350 i think its intentional, its still awful though, i was cringing the whole time

[@SR-71BlackbirdA2]

"Super Evil Chrome Boy" That's gonna be my nickname in every multiplayer game that I own.

[@ZeroFusion28]

I can imagine seeing that come online in Star Wars Battlefront

[@yurinovikov4664]

ZeroFusion28 evil C-3P0

[@Super-BallSharp]

*boi

[@ThatsABitPersonal]

Wren: A live action lion can't have the same expressions as a cartoon character The Chronicles of Narnia: Hold my Bible

[@cawareyoudoin7379]

To be fair, it's not a 100% realistic lion, the stylized movement of the eyebrows does a lot for his expressions. But yeah, this is what they should have done, instead of this hyperrealism bullshit.

[@ashishhembrom3905]

Narnia's animals were more expressive and artistic than The Lion King Remake.

[@Sierlea]

The Lion King lions were legit less-expressive than real lions, who do have greater range than the ones in the movie.

[@PhO3NiX96]

@@cawareyoudoin7379 I clearly wanted to see an hyperphotorealistic lion staring in one of the best Disney story rather than seeing a cartoony animation AGAIN. In Narnia it's clearly far from being photorealistic, if you disagree, then you have no artistic eye

[@narutobroken]

Narnia had some fantastic animal CG

[@sparxies]

Re: Lawnmower Man - I watched this shortly after release on VHS in 1993 and the effects (even for that time) were still a little janky. They were kind of cutting edge in how they were used in the VR environments, but in comparison to other CGI of the time (Jurassic Park), they were not considered anywhere near the best; they were definitely used in combination with VR as a gimmick to sell the film. Also, they got away with a lot more because they were creating video game type VR worlds for the film, which were (and still are) very clearly computer generated environments with CG characters. So in the context of the film, where they were never meant to be hyper-realistic, they actually worked well for the purpose they served. Context is everything when you look back at Lawnmower Man and view its CGI.

[@alexjmurphy88]

There’s a scene in Limitless where the camera just keeps zooming in and traveling past people and things. Let’s check it out!

[@AdrianChazz]

Pretty straight forward technique, check out the guys at Cinecom dot net, they have a tutorial on how they did it and a cheap way to recreate it... (Not sponsored, just really like those guys and their content, aswell as I like Corridor Crew!)

[@Miradis]

Is that the one where the guy is limitless?

[@wackydsquarediv3805]

Daniel Vieten You're a fucking idiot

[@Notski]

@@wackydsquarediv3805 Holy shit where is that coming from? What did he do to you??

[@AdrianChazz]

@@wackydsquarediv3805 No need to be rude.

[@tschallacka874]

Lawnmower man was one of the most impressive movies I'd seen as a kid. The visual effects I took for granted because it was in a vr world, and computer games werent on that level. It was like a glimpse into the future.

[@grrarg9319]

I remember watching this at the cinema when it came out and agree that the effects were done in a certain style to appear like the VR systems at the time, from the bubble effect of the agents disintegrating, through the VR world human representations. Also the VR environment was being used as a training environment for Jobe along with the serum he was being injected with to increase his IQ and wasnt simply that he went evil in the VR world.

[@JarlGrimmToys]

Tschallacka's Let's Play Minecraft I agree in 1992 the video games we were used to were 16bit. On the Super Nintendo or Megadrive. The idea that video games would come to look as good as the effects in Lawnmower Man, was mind boggling. I was blown away with the 3D polygons of Starfox in 1993.

[@grrarg9319]

@@JarlGrimmToys AHH Starfox. That brings back some memories.

[@Mike14264]

One thing I found interesting in the scenes I saw from the movie, and even more so from the games based on the movie, like Cyber War, was the look of the Virtual World, the Cyber Realm and such. That's why I still NEED to watch the original Tron, they made it look so good in there, from the few shots I've seen.

[@c.fernandez4179]

Same here, I was a young Teenager and I feel like back in the day these storylines were quite unique and therefore very diffrent and something new... The Movie captured my attention and emotions for sure...

[@pgolemis]

Please do the scene in 'Skyfall' when Javier Bardem takes out the mouthpiece and the transition to his now scarred face, and when he puts it back in.

[@aBoogivogi]

I remember that looking janky as all hell. Not to mention it made no sense that a mere mouth piece would deform an entire face that way. And yes I do no dentures in v.s. out actually do deform the mouth for those that need them but that was some wacky level of transformation.

[@hanvyj2]

@@aBoogivogi it replaced a lot of the bone structure of his face, wasn't just dentures.

[@Alex.0470]

I love the “sponsored content” count down. It’s perfect for knowing how many times to double tap fast forward without missing anything.

[@jacobf2833]

Hahaha so true and I like it when they just put the ad at the very end so we can just click off the video without missing anything and don't need to skip through it in the middle of the video

[@steps8140]

The thing is, i watch the ads just cause Jake's humor is actually really good, a good balance between serious and over the top acting and blooper like showing that they arnt professionals and fuck up lines etc

[@KurtJohn3]

Lawnmower man: I liked the movie when it came out. The characters looked great because that is what was imagined as the Internet.

[@OptomPilot]

Exactly.. The effects were not supposed to look photorealistic.. As a virtual world, the graphics were amazing.

[@BodhiBushido]

This.

[@esaedvik]

Not really the internet, but cyberspace. Kinda the same, kinda not. When this movie came out, I'd already played years of Cyberpunk 2020 and ICE's Cyberspace RPG's, so I was super jazzed to see how they saw it.

[@jasoncornell2474]

I agree. When I saw it I don't remember thinking it looked "fake". Like you said, this is how VR was imagined to be at the time. A lot has changed in almost 30 years.

[@mhill88ify]

Saw it in theaters when I was 9. The plot made no sense to my 9 yo brain! I don't think that it would now either lol, pretty much trash. I really did want to try VR though, and did end up buying a headset ~20 years later when it FINALLY was becoming legit! I didn't become a cyber lord genius from it though...bummer.

[@leeks1408]

I think I’d love to see y’all just rip Sharknado apart

[@tisntmerealname8824]

Implying that's not a masterpiece

[@tyletrose5249]

It's not like "Cats" bad, but more like "The Room" bad.

[@tyletrose5249]

@@clergashem9 they already did a reaction to Cats.

[@leeks1408]

Tis'nt Merealname the title says “Good and Bad CGI.” Plus when they react to bad CGI it’s much funnier

[@MULTIVERSAL_MASHUPS]

@@tyletrose5249 so bad it's good?

[@rel4998]

17 episodes and I'm still not tired of this series at all.

[@aaron2959]

The Nightmare Before Christmas. The shot where Jack is reaching for the door handle to christmas town always blows me away.

[@bronze_yohn4747]

The shot at the end of “oh brother where art thou” when many characters and set pieces are floating around under water was cool. Interested to see how much of that was CG

[@NickOwens]

It'd be great to see them talk about that movie in general because of the revolutionary digital colour grading.

[@Achterbahnjunky]

The thing with Lion King 2019 is that it's not live action, it just claims to be. It's all CGI so they had the tools and options to actually give their characters personality and emotion, and decided against it. In a musical, with singing animals. The film may look great on a visual level but it's lacking so much in other areas because they wanted to be as real as possible, and I really don't get it how as a director of such a film you deliberately choose to take out all the emotions.

[@lordicarus8807]

In short, the whole thing was just a bad idea...

[@emperorpalpatine3173]

Le Icaro fr

[@ritwikreddy5670]

@@lordicarus8807 the visuals were one of the best, but they don't go along with the story and the emotion level of the film

[@ritwikreddy5670]

@@lordicarus8807 it is as if toy story 4 had lifeless "realistic" toys.

[@ludwigmack]

I disagree a little. I actually liked the concept of Lion King

[@MetalHeadReacts]

I remember when Lawnmower man came out... even then I thought the CG was a bit.. Janky...

[@Michael-xe3dn]

Lawnmower Man: We mostly were (and still are) really interested in VR sex.

[@Corazon_Dorado]

Aight dude...

[@skylx0812]

Don't break the coffee table while you're deflowering it.

[@edcope123421]

I was alive when the lawn mower man came out and the "cyberspace" scene looked great, but pretty much because that was your expectation. "Cyberspace" was supposed to look like something you could do through a modem on your brand new Pentium PC. Many games from around that time that showed scenes inside "cyberspace" looked shit like that, check out "Bloodnet" for instance.

[@guillermog.o7057]

Exactly. For us at that time, everything "digital" should had these old video game graphics. No photorealism anywhere.

[@highlandoutsider]

Why would you want realistic graphics when you could have digital- sorry al need t finish this comment later, my mum needs t use the phone lol

[@philmaurer7191]

It was fairly high end graphics at the time for what was available, and that worked as it took place in cyber space not the real world. Back then you could rent vhs tapes with home made cg on them and the quality was right around what the movie was. Remember the render times for Jurrassic park where insanely long, I think it was 2 years of rendering alone.

[@robertcampbell8070]

Yea, I want to say I was 12 or 13 when it came out, and thinking it looked pretty decent. Weird thing, if anyone remembers the ending, that all the phones ringing would signal his return. Immediately after the movie ended, the phone at my house rang, which freaked me the hell out lol.

[@zakadoke9912]

I approve this message.

[@burritobabyy]

for Lord of war, when they came and shot in south africa, my uncle who worked at the production house at the time, had to accompany them to the township suburbs. Some of the employees of the local firm refused to go to the townships they were filming at since they were so "dangerous" at the time.

[@johndaily543]

10:49 - this isn't a mistake; watch the camera movement, the actor "driving," and the road in the rear window...he's made a left turn onto a paved, two-lane road.

[@toniodivichi5749]

Well waddya know, you are right!

[@gingythebrawler3898]

Nice catch man

[@CGGeek]

Another great episode. And thanks for the mention!

[@adam2943]

Am I the only that scroll down? Cause nobody replied you

[@fazbearent.official7079]

CG geek won’t reply though which is pretty sad but if he does then hello

[@shivamm.salunkhe5876]

@@adam2943 hey you fool ship up !

[@adam2943]

@@shivamm.salunkhe5876 what's ur problem?

[@RunningRunner46]

Cg geek ! Now roast corridor just like how you roasted blender guru😂😂

[@mrhaast5053]

Some scenes I'm sure we'd all love to hear your thoughts on - The thing remake - bumblebee opening shot - alien covenant back burster - halo 2 gravemind scene - death stranding fragile eating scene

[@Rizky-im2vh]

Watchmojo : Top 10 continuous uninterrupted shots in movies Corridor Crew : Let's find the hidden cut!

[@scottyferguson2061]

First scene of JCVD...no cuts!

[@RogerWilco1]

That “Children of Men”breakdown was the best you’ve ever done. It was hard because I have PTSD from that scene, but fantastic to see how they did it. The result was extremely immersive.

[@watchesandcaps2566]

You have PTSD from a scene in a movie? Wtf?

[@murdercide4967]

@@watchesandcaps2566 lol right?

[@danbrowne]

The whole point of that Lawnmower Man scene is that the guy’s body is in virtual cyberspace.. so it makes sense that it looks CG

[@ROCEREDSKULLDesign]

Amazing movie for the time

[@kwadjoosei9972]

I, not being a fan of CGI while ironically watching Corridor Crew, remember Lawnmower Man as being the testing grounds for what CGI has become today. CGI in the 90's was very much understood as being experimental.

[@pixxiespit]

_Access Denied_ 😏

[@imreadyreadygogo]

I never heard someone speak good about that Godzilla movie, well done.

[@tigerdean5048]

To me, the 1998 Godzilla will always be a guilty pleasure movie for me.

[@HyperLuminal]

I didn’t think I could love Children of Men and Clive Owen more, but watching you guys react to and break down that scene actually made me giddy excited.

[@pinoymathwiz]

The Dutchman vs The Black Pearl at the end of Pirates of the Caribbean: At World’s End

[@hideoschwartz8970]

YES

[@grossandgrosser8608]

Tell them 2 do Charlie's Angels: Full Throttle!!!

[@bongfade4449]

Definitely react to this

[@drewsivao9926]

Please!!!!

[@grossandgrosser8608]

Esau Bernstein I also asked for them to react to The Astronaut Farmer!

[@atul.aditya]

The dragon sequence in Harry Potter: Goblet of fire

[@BuggyChan]

I’d love to see a best and worst of Stephen King movies.

[@Duncan_Idaho_Potato]

Funny you should say that, The Lawnmower Man was supposed to be a Stephen King movie. In fact, it was originally going to be titled "Stephen King's The Lawnmower Man". But the final movie was so vastly different from the short story that it was supposedly based on (pretty much the only thing that was the same was the title) that King successfully sued New Line to have his name completely removed from the production and marketing. When New Line used his name anyway for the home video release, he sued and won again.

[@ColinFox]

Personally, I would put Shawshank Redemption at the top of SK movies - well, that and The Shining.

[@Deqster]

Dude Lawnmower Man scared the crap out of me as a kid and yes the effects were part of that nightmare!

[@gracekaminski2476]

Pirates of the Caribbean: at worlds end -the ending sea battle shot

[@ErmenBlankenberg]

Yes, please!

[@Jack-em7cj]

Yes

[@captainx5246]

My favorite scene from the whole series

[@aspecttnd]

Jokes on you it was entirely practical XD

[@pablofawkes2841]

I'd like to see a reaction to the Aslan effects in Narnia.

[@birk3779]

That would indeed be interesting

[@midgetwars1]

Yeah, you can do emotion with real life lions.

[@SiopaoSauc3]

I read this as Asian effects and wondered what were the racist parts in Narnia

[@faith5584]

Yes! I requested that once too. Narnia is a really great movie that seems to be a little underrated. I would love to see them react to it.

[@farzana_shampa]

And harry potter

[@matthijskroesen9554]

Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest, the Kraken scenes

[@TheBearDrew000]

OMG I JUST WATCHED THIS AGHHHH i was thinking the same stuff!

[@ProductionJournal]

It's so cool! I know for a fact that the shot where the Kraken destroys the ship is actually practical with CGI composited over it

[@cutlassken6194]

Matthijs Kroesen Not just the Kraken, but Davy Jones and his crew as well. And they should also do the skeleton pirates from the first movie.

[@captainjacksparrow1518]

Aye!

[@Jacob-eq4ld]

Cutlass Ken they already did Davy jones

[@ENTERtheCREATOR]

I love how they were so focused on that camera rig inside the car, that they totally passed over the CGI motorcycle and the green screened motorcycle rider from the crash.

[@DustinPlatt]

I was like 4 years old when Lawn Moverman came out and I remember having nightmares after I decided i was a big boy and snuck into the living room to take a sneak peek at the movie my parents were watching.

[@SupremeCreame]

That happened to me with the original IT movie. To this day I can't fuckin' stand clowns.

[@misternogood]

Straight up, that movie was scary as hell as a kid

[@randomawsomedude]

same thou

[@wedge72]

I did the same with The Exorcist when i was little and it was being shown on cable. That movie gave me nightmares for weeks. It didnt help that my mom was also reading segments to us from The Amityville Horror book around that same time. I saw the devil everywhere and had dreams of snakes dragging me to hell, which of course was behind the curtain hiding the water heater in our basement bathroom which was painted red and always had bugs in it due to it having an access panel to the crawlspace. I have my Mom's love of horror now, but some scenes from The Exorcist still creep me out.

[@TheRealAlpha2]

The thing I remember most about the effects for Lawnmower Man back when it came out was they were really proud of that disintegrating matter effect. I remember one VFX artist saying they had to envision what someone being turned into millions of little particals looked like because it had never been done before. Soon after that everyone, was using that effect.

[@JW_Reviews]

I was thinking that “War” and “Dawn of the Planet of the Apes” have some extremely impressive effects that make the apes look astoundingly realistic. I think you guys should take a look! Thanks!

[@Videogamaholic1]

Yeah, I've been wanting to see them take a look at the trilogy and how the effects improved and evolved

[@Bunnyfufu666]

There was a scene in Dawn where I legitimately thought "How did they get that orangutan to do that?"? Full CGI that's how, 100% believable.

[@JW_Reviews]

TheWarpDrive I have too! The first movie had decent special effects but once Dawn came out it really blew the first movie out of the water. It was honestly incredible!

[@JW_Reviews]

Forest Aller Exactly! I remember when I first saw it I was really taken aback, I though that some of them must have been real lol

[@Videogamaholic1]

@@JW_Reviews Yeah the first movie's effects were great, but Dawn blew me away and War's effects were truly awe-inspiring

[@jonathansefcik473]

Thoughts on Dinosaur (2000) would be an interesting one.

[@MrBrico-dg2ls]

Jonathan Sefcik love that film!

[@skinnybonz6341]

I remember liking it as a kid. Haven't seen it as an adult though.

[@shadovv_m0ss]

That animation still holds up well!

[@redprime3210]

I completely forgot that movie exsisted

[@stargirl7646]

That was the first DVD my family ever bought haha. I remember being super intrigued by the behind the scenes stuff about how they made it

[@Pikaroth]

As requested, just my thoughts on seeing The Lawnmower Man in theaters when it came out! I was 16 years old and in high school, and I, and quite literally everyone I knew, thought it looked incredible. Most seemed to know and understand the movie was not that good in general, but the graphics and what you talk about here looked simply outstanding. The movie now, over the years, and I'm also approaching 43 years old, obviously does not look good at all, but it now holds the nostalgic factor for me, boarding on a guilty pleasure.

[@Prod-Akio]

Thats very interesting

[@murdermygymsox]

Thanks for giving your perspective!

[@DickDiamond74]

i'm 45 and agree

[@deansmits006]

I was not old enough to see in theater, but saw on TV sometime after. Or VHS, and I thought the concept was really cool, even if the graphics weren't the best by the time I saw it

[@Bokenforce]

I’m 40 and remember seeing that movie in theaters too but I thought it looked awful even back then. Like the only thing I remember about that movie was how bad the CGI looked. I have not seen that movie again since then.

[@braydon7589]

Ya’ll should react to An American Werewolf in London: the werewolf transformation.

[@molokofreak]

I remember I watch the pirated copy in which warefolf in battle scenes was not rendered, only wireframes, god knows how the fuck they stole this shit back then.

[@funtourhawk]

I swear they did that already, idk

[@xx0maxi]

Yeh

[@xx0maxi]

molokofreak warefolf?

[@YSQUARED.]

My uncle actually created the arm for the guy....

[@lackusshock]

I wanna see them review Shin Godzilla.

[@kurtkurt1573]

Lackus Shock oh god that gozila with the big eyes

[@quinneliz5405]

Ohhh nooo

[@squidwardbutsexy4650]

@@kurtkurt1573 It is the Godzilla with different stages and it is honestly terrifying

[@givemeanameiwillhate9525]

@@squidwardbutsexy4650 or call it cutting lazer godzilla

[@yeetyeet1865]

that godzilla has a cool design

[@beaudanner]

I DID see Lawnmower Man when I was a kid and loved it. We really liked the "CG" back then because it was so novel and different. I remember thinking that it was badass. You have to remember how new it was and how different it looked (being only a few years away from realty high budget cartoons like WF Roger Rabbit.) Also, remember that we were watching these on rented VHS tapes and CRT televisions. The super high contrast and animation felt like our generations' Tron.

[@EasyBookReviewClub]

I agree with Beau, it was a good film with an interesting plot, obviously the CG hasn't aged well but at the time it was plausible with so little to compare it to. Would be an interesting re-make with today's software.

[@munkyzzb7504]

Me too it actually kinda scared me as a kid too.

[@ChrisBeach-wk7vh]

I remember going to see "Lawnmower Man" back in the day at my local cinema and my mate and I loved every pixel popping minute of it. You have to remember TV special effects were rubbish and you just thought yourself lucky when a Terminator 2 or my personal favourite The Abyss much malined and underated movie in my opinion came along with out of this world underwater effects. The trouble is we are spoilt now with CG effects but as you know sometimes they are relied on and not used as a tool. Keep up the great work on your channel.

[@LAZER1986]

I was 6 when i watched Lawnmower man, at that time i was thinking it was great, it looked like Re: Boot cartoon)

[@Normal_Norman]

That's an interesting way to look at it, I never realised how much we take modern CGI for granted.

[@lazergri]

Superman Return : the eye stops a bullet scene. It blew my mind when I was a kid.

[@GISP]

I remember watching the lawnmover man. Its a decent movie, and the silly gfx is actualy acceptable in the context its in. Its inside a VR envoirment and its low quality to make it 100% clear that its taking place inside said VR envoirment and not out in "the real world". They also made practical effects to demonstrate his "mind over matter" scene. Where he makes blisters on his arm and makes them disappear again. In the scene where he has a silly expression as you pointed out, he is trying to find a back door to the WWW so he can upload himself.

[@LaffeeTaffeeGG]

I watched Lawnmower Man as a kid. I thought it was the most mind-blowing special effects I'd ever seen. Also I thought Darkman was a good movie. I watched both of those recently and had to watch them through my fingers because the cringe was so strong.

[@ct5625]

Have to admit their dismissal of it irks me, because they're doing so without any understanding or consideration of the context. Of course the character can't be a physical human, because he's a psyche inside a computer program. How would all of that have been manifest in CG for easy consumption by the audience? It couldn't really have been done any other way. The sketchiness of the "CG" shouldn't be an issue with this movie, because that basic interpretation of a human mind in a digital world was needed to convey the story.

[@denlara3882]

One scene I'd like to see is the cafe scene in Inception when everything starts exploding around DiCaprio and Page.

[@shellyt271]

denlara there’s a clip on it on KZbin where they explain how it happened. Basically. Everything about it is real except a few cgi things. They tested it out a lot to make sure the DiCaprio and Page weren’t gonna harmed while it was happening. Pretty cool

[@shellyt271]

RLS no it wasn’t this Chanel. Here’s the link for it. They talk about other moments in the movie as well. It’s pretty interesting kzbin.info/www/bejne/n5TXdoCHbdh1rLs

[@anatolearakelian8454]

Crew really needs to talk about the special effects in The Thing (1982) and the CG effects that replaced practical ones in The Thing (2011). I think these are important moments in visual effects history

[@intelligenceparadigm4931]

Tbh there are a bunch of videos about those already

[@ewan476]

I've suggested that on the past couple of videos, I hope they do it!

[@op_snooze]

Lawnmower Man: I was terrified of this trailer as a kid. I would run and hide when it came on TV. I was afraid that CGI dude would come out of the screen even when the TV was off. My first experience with the uncanny valley.

[@TheMitchZone]

😂

[@joerym.9750]

The Mitch Zone don’t laugh at that, its not like you never got scared of anything.

[@nicolaslovito8327]

@@joerym.9750 Pretty sure he told the story because it's funny. Laughter is expected a normal human being.

[@op_snooze]

It's true, I laugh at it now, I was like six at the time.

[@tomiboi100]

Pirates of the Caribbean cg was pretty decent. Davy Jones, kraken etc.

[@tezlaactual6582]

The cg was always pretty good the writing however got worse every sequel

[@jasethomas5198]

@@tezlaactual6582 True! I literally just rewatched all of them and the third one is a convoluted mess of a movie

[@foxinsocks4693]

@@jasethomas5198 Yea, the first is my all time favorite movie and the second is great too. I couldn’t even finish the third one though

[@jasethomas5198]

@@foxinsocks4693 it's so terrible

[@democard1199]

@@jasethomas5198 At least we got somethin' like _I got jar of dirt_ and another meme

[@dryued6874]

Jake: Are you impersonating a lawyer? Also Jake: Wesley & Wesley Inc!

[@FulcanMal]

I'll keep singing this tune until it comes: "Best and worst Werewolf transformations".

[@Evanescoduil]

Love, Death and Robots: Shape Shifters is the best I've ever seen.

[@spankymcgee3472]

The van helsing movie comes to mind immediately

[@AlexanderEVtrainer]

Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban, Professor Lupin

[@Lt_Saltbeard]

Pirates of the Caribbean, at worlds end. The stair scene when everything breaks around him

[@chadtopia]

I love that scene, just amazing

[@RDR911]

Thirded, this scene was amazing.

[@keeganshelby885]

They’ve already done this scene in a previous video

[@Lt_Saltbeard]

ah, I think youre right

[@JW_Reviews]

YES

[@johnturner8286]

5:40 -- I saw this film when it came out. It was ... I'll be diplomatic. It matched the work you saw in Siggraph demo reels from around 1988. It matched 1992 music videos like Peter Gabriel's Sledgehammer. It matched Commdore Amiga RenderMan CGI demo reels (also see "Fred Fish disks"). The ever-present Phong shading, the flat texture mapping, the particle systems, the notional kinematics, the post-render pixel-editor fixes, it's all there. From such sins rose Heaven.

[@ragginn85]

The ultimate cgi environment and cgi nature elements in a movie... Everest.

[@ragginn85]

Nala 305 agreed. The only time my suspension of disbelief was lowered watching that movie, was when the acting fell short

[@ragginn85]

The mountain steals every scene 🙂

[@fnordling1]

The Children of Men car sequence reminds me of a car sequence in Spielberg's War of the Worlds where the camera is moving in/out/through/around a car that characters are driving. It struck me as pretty amazing at the time. Do that one. DO IT.

[@alyssa4436]

Overlord - any scene in the lab or after Wafner gets his face torn apart.

[@sideshow8382]

Alyssa Weber that movie is underrated

[@cosmotect]

This godzilla looks so much more menacing than that traffic cone shaped thing in recent movies

[@Ortheas]

I would love to see a breakdown of Blizzard Entertainment cinematics through the years, as well as specific shorts, like the one for Bastion.

[@PicekRudly]

Aslan from Narnia had better emotions in 2005 than Lion King (2019)

[@MrHammyStar]

PicekRudly yea but that’s the point. The animals wouldn’t have looked real if they had too much emotion. It’s not that they weren’t capable of it, it’s that they didn’t want to

[@commenturthegreat2915]

@@MrHammyStar Yes, which is really stupid.

[@Lauren-zx3gx]

Mr.HammyStar I mean... they’re talking animals. Doesn’t look real either way.

[@Bane_Amesta]

When an animal is sad, scared or whatever, their ears and tail move according to the emotion, but it seems that they forgot about it, and that details help too, even without the cartoony emotions

[@robham872]

I'VE BEEN SAYING THIS ALL YEAR!

[@harrisonwilliams7710]

Reallly should react to “the worlds end” toilet fight scene, some great video effects and great stunts

[@AdrianChazz]

Edgar Wright is the ABSOLUTE master. The things this dude has accomplished at his age, just... Legend.

[@AdrianChazz]

Also, Scott Pilgrim vs the World... All the fight scenes and coin drops... The videogame visual refferences...

[@espenskeys]

I saw Lawnmower Man in the theatre when it came out. We all thought it was super awesome. The VFX shots you were critiquing were never meant to be photo-real, they were representing the cyber space. The cartoony nature added to that effect.

[@whitefantom]

I was twelve when the Lawnmower Man came out, and I loved it back then. I think someone else in the comments pointed this out, but back in the early 90's, we all kind of had a vision of "cyberspace" as something obviously digital and computer-generated, so the kind of thing the Lawnmower Man showed was exactly what most of us thought it would look like if you could actually live in a virtual world inside a computer. Hollywood clearly had the ability to create better CGI than this even in 1992 (Jurassic Park came out only a year later with some pretty believable CG dinosaurs), but I think the super-CG look they chose to use in the Lawnmower Man was intentional.

[@owensmith148]

Paddington 2: the intro where Paddington is interacting with the people of the town

[@Rystefn]

I was a teenager when Lawnmower Man came out. We were all "this is dumb" as far as I remember.

[@HowieStephens]

Born in early 80s, and Lawnmower Man was one of my favorite movies as a kid. It's hard for me to pinpoint my true feelings from that long ago, but I'd say maybe the VFX worked for me because it wasn't really trying to integrate the (now) goofy looking CGI into the real world-it was playing into the idea of "what if computer games were like this in the near-future..." and it was just COOL. It made me want to have super awesome VR *right now* (back then). Looking back at this movie, it's really neat to still be alive and see VR evolving (rift->vive->index->????) into more than I ever imagined back in the day. But yeah-it was kind of a dumb movie, and it didn't age well, but it really struck a chord with me I guess.

[@TorATB]

Regarding Lawnmower Man: We had "suspension of disbelief" in the 90's as well...

[@diomeja]

Lawnmower Man only scared the shit out of me bc the uncanny valley vibe hit like a truck. I wasnt ready for that weirdness.

[@TacticalBurritoSystem]

Did see "The Lawnmower Man" when it came out, I was in High School. Friend's dad actually took us. I had read the short story that it was based off of from Stephen King's "Night Shift" It didn't look ANYTHING like the short story in the Tv trailers, but I liked future stuff and VR, which was hot at the time, so we went and saw it. I thought it was pretty cool at the time. I still like the film, but the only thing to survive from the short story was someone being chased and killed by a lawnmower and the lines of the police officers who were investigating the murder were almost verbatim taken from that same story. It's more a retelling of "Flowers for Algernon" expect Charlie doesn't become a bad cgi monsterman. Ok it just borrows some ideas from Flowers. I'd like to see a VR developer make some sort of hilarious demo where you go into CYBERSPACE and keep Monsterman from accessing the T1 line and ringing phones.

[@aramisdnivra]

Lawnmower Man: I watched this movie when i was a kid and thought it was dope at the time.

[@mojoriot2293]

I saw it in the theaters, I liked it, but the virtual version of the Lawnmower man was terrible looking.

[@mrbarkan]

Yes! It was amazing! You guys have to understand that we were fascinated by technology, so anything half assed was new and awesome.

[@eimead]

I was 6 when it came out but probably 8 when I saw it. I loved it and had the game on SNES.

[@Sierlea]

I didn't see it but I did see the ads and thought it looked cool

[@januzi2]

Me too. Back in the days, the movie was pretty nice and the graphics were one of the ways to tell the story and not to be a major part of the movie. Besides, how anyone would show the internet? This is the best way. "Hackers" doesn't count, this is just a fictionary movie ;)

[@sam2awesome]

Hey Guys, I've just watched the classic Back to the Future Part III and near the beginning there's a shot where Mcfly rolls down a hill and then is found by another character played by him. But the shot seems flawless and I can't spot how they got both characters in the same continuous shot. Please can you use your expertise to figure this one out? Thanks

[@ReidBlakley]

He doesn’t go over that shot specifically, but Captain Disillusion did a video on how the one-actor, multiple-character stuff was done in Parts II and III: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qJmxdaaGgsZ-laM Basically they had to invent a special film camera where every function of it (movement, focus shift, etc) was preprogrammed so the actors would act out the scene, change costume, then act as the other character while the camera moved exactly the same. Then everything was composited optically with analogue mattes. In a lot of those scenes the set design included lots of long narrow objects between the characters (poles, walls, etc) to help hide the mattes/dividing lines. In the scene you speak of, Seamus McFly is behind a fence with horizontal planks; Seamus’s legs and the hand that touches Marty’s face is a 2nd actor, and when the camera pans up it’s Michael J. Fox again above the waist.

[@josegiron7008]

Yall need to react to annihilation, the last scene specifically is a masterpiece in abstract special effect imo. One of the most haunting scenes I've seen in movies for sure. More of an abstract scene though

[@SkullCrusher-xk5wp]

YES YES YES

[@godlyaardvark7265]

That bear scene is horrifying

[@yuungi9391]

That. Goddamn. Bear.

[@TheOmostafa]

The Battle between Dumbledore and Voldemort in Order of the Phoenix. The effects are crazy!! It was cool when Dumbledore uses the water to counteract Voldemorts Fire Snake, and the effects when millions of pieces of glass fly at Dumbledore, but he turns it into sand. That scene is masterful!

[@therwbyfamilton8023]

Look at The movie “Land of the Lost” (Mosquitoe scene) “Speed Racer” “Spy kids 3” Edit: “The Last Airbender”

[@rodtricked4569]

Yes please

[@tylerwalker5231]

All the spy kids movies, all their VFX are definitely consistent looking even when they seem sorta low budget

[@joaquinledesma1373]

Spy Kids is a (good?) one!

[@wendywinger7169]

I really want them to react Speed Racer. I requested two times before but I thought I was the only one. I am glad that other people want it too. This comment made me happy. Thanks!

[@doyleburton5493]

Sooooo half of my childhood?

[@MudSluggerBP]

I saw Lawnmower Man on the day of release and absolutely loved it. The VR scenes pretty much matched what VR looked like at the time.

[@ChrisGeden]

“Basically his servant” the character can’t even tie his own velcro shoes but he sure can mow a lawn...and program VR environments

[@ChrisB_517]

The whole plot of the movie was to make him smarter thru VR. He got smart.... tooooo smart.

[@ChrisGeden]

C B glad I’m not the only one who likes to point out the obvious.

[@rigjuice]

Pirates of the Caribbean: Curse of the Black Pearl skeleton crew scenes

[@Schizm1]

already done in one of the previous episodes. (I mean Davy Jones was done but at the same time they mentioned the entire crew)

[@cheese90333]

Schizm1 they weren’t the black pearl skeleton crew

[@Schizm1]

@@cheese90333 oh yeah, my mistake. But the CGI to BP crew was similar here you go, an entire documentary about it: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jmfWap2Hl7JshJY

[@daffy8995]

They had DVD extras that showed how all that was done, It was remarkable! Especially the swordfight scene where they are going in and out of the shadows.

[@ChefBoiArdee]

You guys should do Godzilla: King of the Monsters (2019)

[@ComXDude]

Or 2014, or Shin (2016). Or maybe all three!

[@user-wr5yx8tk3r]

ComXDude Should just make a video dedicated to godzilla cgi

[@SDesWriter]

@@user-wr5yx8tk3r Like how it's changed and been upgraded over the years.

[@LordJagd]

The color grade ruined that for me. The very harsh blue tint on almost every scene made everything seem so fake.

[@ComXDude]

@@user-wr5yx8tk3r Yeah, I'd like that. Get Godzilla disintegrating at the end of *Godzilla vs. Destoroyah*, the bad CG ship from *Godzilla 2000*, some of the less-than-ideal bits from GMK (my favorite Godzilla movie, in spite of the spotty digital effects), Zilla from *Final Wars*, and then some stuff from the Legendary movies and Shin.

[@ZachoLibre]

The depth you guys went into on the clips in this episode was phenomenal. I have no interest in becoming a VFX artist, I have no knowledge of it at all, but the way you guys break it all down makes it so easy to understand that I feel like I could do all of these shots myself. Well done, keep it up!

[@benscaife1759]

I remember when The LawnmowerMan came out and it was a big thing back in the day. The VR was cutting edge and I remember being blown away by the effects. You guys should do the 4 minute one take fight scene from Warrior King with Tony Jaa....that scene is mad!

[@ReelRejects]

Loved the video guys! There's a shot in Supernatural Season 4 Episode 7 with razor blades in a guys mouth that kind of reminded me of the shot in Lord Of War, would love to know how they shot it. It's at the beginning of the episode.

[@mr.ditkovich1645]

*RENT!*

[@drewforchic9083]

I'm taking animation classes in college right now, and my professor worked as one of the modelers who made that 1998 Godzilla model in the movie (no, he had nothing to do with designing it).

[@RSAgility]

I loved 98 Zilla, i wanted all the toys.

[@DragoonBG]

Tell him he did a great job! Design btw is still very distinct and like it to this day. I even love the movie very much, despite what I learned late, late when internet became popular that it was considered bad. Yeah fuck those people :P.

[@Tigressa101]

I have a place in my heart for Godzilla (1998) and I knew there was something else special about it. I know it lacks other monsters and it focused a bit too heavily on the humans but I love the movie for Zilla herself.

[@LordOrwell]

I'm glad i'm not the only one who was bugged by the waterfalls in avatar

[@about7people198]

The lawnmower man is like the animations you see at a bowling ally

[@MyWaifuNow]

no, the windows xp or vista or something bowling game

[@jgjg5182]

"You can't have a realistic looking animal and have it emote-" Padington has now put you on his hit list

[@Luka1180]

And Narnia. It's bollocks. They shouldn't have gone this way. They should have made them so realistic that you think they're real until they speak, so they are like Aslan in Narnia. That worked so well, and in a way you buy he's real still! I showed the movie to my close friend who is a professional in the VFX industry, and he was the one who brought up the fact that they looked like their faces were being puppeteered and that it looked like shit. And here's the thing, he has no bias because he has never seen the original movie. In fact, he rarely ever watched 2D animation. Apparently there is something in his brain that tells him it is fake and that makes it so he can't enjoy it. Sad, but it means he's got no bias.

[@smokebuur]

Paddington is a toy though. They didn't have to make him look like a real bear in the wild and then give him emotion. But..They did do a great job making him realistic for sure.

[@SJMG]

Anthropomorphic, bipedal bear. Realistic. Anthropomorphic, bipedal bear... Realistic...

[@metal_musician4458]

Aslan has left the chat

[@highlandoutsider]

" And in other news, an LA man was found today having been drowned in marmalade sparking and international man hunt as police believe the killer may have connections in both England and Peru"

[@cmlds]

I watched the lawnmower man around 1994 at the age of 5, and all I can remember are the scenes inside the "game" (in my mind it was a videogame), and that virtual face was by far the most scary thing I've ever seen at that time. Seriously, that dude haunted me for years. Thank you for bringing that memory back, by the way.

[@thegrayyernaut]

I just imagined Clint looking at "Children of Men" and be like "Wait I haven't seen this movie."

[@L16htW4rr10r]

To be fair, I haven't too

[@thegrayyernaut]

@@L16htW4rr10r In that case, I suggest you give the movie a look. It's an experience.

[@marasmusine]

I can confirm that when Lawnmower Man came out, everyone was thinking "what's with these 80s graphics?"

[@TheSmugglersLog]

I thought creepypasta.

[@Energyone]

...well if you mean as far as what people thought of gaming graphics, no, that's not true - if '80's graphics were up to that standard we'd be blown away

[@Comicgamerkids]

Not true

[@marasmusine]

@@Energyone Must've just been me that thought it looked more like Wierd Science than T2.

[@andrestrujillo1735]

"Stop talking about lawnmower man." - Bruce Greene 2019

[@ABELXDAYA]

A Man of Great Taste I See

[@whatshisname3304]

it was a good idea for a film, in a way the effects were kind of cartoon-like , the effects did n't matter that much.

[@christopherconnolly5791]

@@whatshisname3304 I think that because it was supposed to take place in a virtual reality style setup, it was easier to forgive the effects not being perfectly lifelike.

[@whatshisname3304]

@@christopherconnolly5791 it mirrored a simplistic avatar, he could have been represented with pacman. though that might be stretching it.

[@henrijs1733]

as a kid, seeing Jurassic Park was mindblowing and such a hype moment. Godzilla was scary too. Predator was pretty creepy, especially when I woke up at 3AM and it was just on TV, and I watched it all lol. Davy Jones really stood out and the great CGI made him so realistic and scary.

[@mike_y0st]

The Patriot, particularly the scene where the dude gets his leg blown off.

[@UnknownBigF]

bonus: that scene where the guy shoots his kid but you see the bullet kinda flop out of the barrel

[@robbe73]

”Hardcore Henry” has a lot of stuff I think you would like. It’s basically a FPS game turned into a movie. Lots of over the top action and great VFX!

[@tlreclipse1126]

This needs way more upvotes!

[@Duncan_Idaho_Potato]

As someone who saw The Lawnmower Man when it was released, I can tell you that the VFX looked pretty cool at the time. There was much better CGI back then but it was very rare. So the CGI in the Lawnmower Man still looked pretty trippy and futuristic. Remember that this was around the time that the "Mind's Eye" series of home videos, which featured very similar quality CGI, were still quite popular. But I still hated the movie, because it is objectively TERRIBLE. Even if you re-edited it with state of the art 2019 CGI, it would still be a dumb, boring, AWFUL movie.

[@ShadowSumac]

No need to throw word "objectively" like this.

[@Janzer_]

objectively, it looked really silly. no question about it. everyone thought it looked dumb unless you were a scifi nerd, which I was.

[@ShadowSumac]

@@Janzer_ Dunno, I was not a nerd back in the 90s, but I was really fascinated with virtual reality and stuff like that. So I found this movie cheesy, but interesting.

[@bnbcraft6666]

I only know about lawnmower man is because of the mini-series about the siege of waco and for some reason in the series the leader of the branch Davidians loved the movie, I don't know if that's true for the guy in real life but it'd be hilarious if it was

[@ChristianSandviknes]

@@Janzer_ There is no objectivity when it comes to aesthetics. Just more popular, or less popular opinions.

[@simonxinhu]

I want a look at the fan film Darth Maul: Apprentice