VG Myths - Can You Beat Sonic 2 & Knuckles Without Pressing Right Or Left?

[@Sawzie]

"this just might be the most uniquely sadistic VGMyths run ever" gamechamp, you beat pokemon without getting hit.

[@Wote89]

Let's be real: There's a non-zero chance she's suppressed the memory so that she can step on things in dreams again.

[@gammalolman580]

This is the most UNIQUELY sadistic VGMyths run. It is not the most sadistic ever run, but it's the most unique AND sadistic run.

[@Luxcalibur]

Wonder if it's possible to beat any pokemon game without pressing right

[@dustin202]

@@Luxcalibur nope, you cant even get a Pokémon in any game (besides stuff like coliseum which you fail anyways)

[@velvetbutterfly]

@@Luxcalibur Gen6 would let you reach the town with the first gym but that's the furthest any mainline game would let you go. I don't know about Ranger or Mystery Dungeon. Conquest maybe

[@BillehBawb]

doing this challenge segmented with save states was already hell enough for me, I cant imagine the pain you went through doing it all in one run without saving and loading. good video as always!

[@garfieldandfriends7981]

oh hey there billehbawb

[@sonicfan6977]

Hey billeh bob

[@jateyboi1108]

Hey billehbawb wrong account lol

[@Davi_Dash]

Its cybershell but he doesn't swear. :)

[@NoNamex1412]

You're still alive?

[@NathanielBandy]

The patreon names get more entertaining every time

[@SSM24_]

This is probably the only channel where I actually look forward to Patreon name reading instead of getting annoyed by it.

[@Scottishboy3693]

Nathaniel Bandy what's good

[@tibby4503]

hi nathaniel!

[@elijahandre6391]

hold on, ain't you Nathaniel B?

[@bigbang8739]

Nathan Band

[@DE23]

"Have fun sipping your victory latte until your inevitable failure" is such a raw line

[@rosamunddwyer4257]

SIP

[@58209]

adding "take the latte" to my vocabulary in place of "take the L"

[@SunroseStudios]

@@58209 the L stands for Latte

[@kreeperplays4246]

Ironic

[@JacobGeller]

This is some of the most watchable stuff on KZbin, I'm excited for every video

[@Lemon_Planter]

Oh neat, hello!

[@Gamechamp3000]

[@galesdove]

you have such good taste in youtube channels king

[@bluexephosfan970]

Always fun to see my fav youtubers in each others comments

[@blakksheep736]

I didn't expect to see you here, but I approve.

[@AceTrainerSquirtle]

This has to be the quickest gap between Myth videos you’ve ever had.

[@oscarwillimott9296]

Very speedy, almost as fast as the main protagonist of this run.

[@sadagusfate]

@@oscarwillimott9296 knuckles is strong not fast >:(

[@BthIX]

It's to make up for the ridiculous 6 months gap between the last 2

[@green-6508]

Shortest gap*

[@starkeeper_youtube]

@@BthIX tbf the gap was for kingdom hearts 2 at level 1 which is the longest video on her channel. that takes a lot of editing and even more gameplay

[@dearickangelonej.legaspi6686]

The fact this lasted 30 minutes means you got out of the first level!

[@IamaPERSON]

Lol

[@nanobean576]

Yes

[@weagleo809]

Could’ve been a difficult first level

[@timlikesgames9996]

Thats where your wrong, it’s just a long level

[@gd3air2]

How did he figure out the death egg robot strategy? It makes no sense and yet it works. 💀

[@DiegoG2004]

4:05 A moment of silence for the unsung hero programmer of Sonic Team, he will never be forgotten for the seemingly inconsecuential mechanics he added into Knuckles' glide.

[@ReikuYin]

Likely did it just on the off chance of a situation getting the player stuck if that happens.

[@ultimapower6950]

Yeah rip hero programmer of sonic team 1992-2022

[@timothymclean]

I bet 5 quatloos that it wasn't something the unsung hero programmer actually programmed on purpose, or noticed until they saw the Japanese equivalent of GameChamp3000 doing a dumb challenge run.

[@charlesswansonii9319]

So since they are based on Christian "Taxman" Whitehead's Retro Engine ports of Sonic 1, Sonic 2, Sonic CD, and Sonic Mania, you're saying Whitehead or another member of Evening Star Studios, instead, right? Or Simon "Stealth" Thomley and his Headcannon studio, which did the brunt of the work in the Retro Engine for Sonic Mania that these ports use?

[@lightningfox3373]

"sonic 2 the long awaited sequel to sonic 3"

[@PrincessFlooberry]

sometimes ill go to this channel and be like "no way she somehow figured out how to beat a game without playing it." this is one of those times. holy shit.

[@bracken8782]

Her explanation of the underflow glitch literally killed me For those actually interested, basically since she died twice when she had 1 life left, the life counter performed an underflow, which basically means she has 255 lives instead.

[@dustin202]

And she did it in such a perfect vgmyths sarcastic way.

[@LettuceGayming]

You can tell the pain she was in because she probably grinded lives for hours

[@AidebHerb]

@@DeShawnMcDonald gamechamp does her own runs

[@forgado7396]

@@LettuceGayming I popped into her Twitch channel for a little bit when she streamed Sonic 3, can confirm she was grinding those lives for at LEAST an hour lmao

[@hoodedman6579]

"Her explanation of the underflow glitch literally killed me" Dead people can write KZbin comments?

[@kirbyhypno2522]

"Sonic the Hedgehog 2 is the long awaited sequel to Sonic the Hedgehog 3" Had to do a double take to make sure I heard correctly 😂🤣

[@powwowken2760]

Runs like this make me want to ask, "Are you OK?" But then I remember that being asked that when you're clearly not OK is one of the worst feelings ever So instead, "Your suffering is extremely entertaining, keep the good work"

[@dustin202]

Wow, that made me think way too much about how I feel being asked that.

[@athath2010]

> But then I remember that being asked that when you're clearly not OK is one of the worst feelings ever Fair, but it also sometimes catches suicide attempts before they start/helps with depressive episodes. I think it's worth it (albeit probably not in this context).

[@JayboCorp.2014]

Terry; _asking everybody if they're okay._

[@user-vw4xp5nt9f]

only sucks if its in the moment imo. good if its long term

[@eenernanis2664]

@@JayboCorp.2014 And punches everybody super hard, not a great guy to have for emotional support, unless you're into getting punched, I'm not kink shaming

[@WinVisten]

the "y5" is actually 255. The number of lives the player has is represented by a single byte (8 bit) variable, which can store up to 256 values, starting from zero and going up to 255. This is also why the highest amount of Rupees you carry in the original Legend of Zelda, and the maximum level for Pokemon in the first two generations, is capped at 255. Though, for Pokemon, you'd have to use glitches or cheats to get them above 100.

[@moshimeshowu747]

"With knuckles getting his revenge on Eggman for crashing the death egg on angel island by dropping the death egg out of orbit..." Gamechmp you are a master of subtle comedy XD

[@actone4822]

Latte lock sounds like the newest version of a Nuzlocke. The rules are simple, standard hard-core nuzlocke rules, but you must wait ten minutes before every button press.

[@CosmicPlatonix]

For a simultaneously less-painful but more-painful challenge, drink an entire *actual* latte every time you lose a party member.

[@actone4822]

@@CosmicPlatonix That sounds actually feasible and enjoyable, thank you for the improvement.

[@XSniper74184]

A very different kind of drinking game.

[@justineberlein5916]

Okay, trying to explain the y5 lives thing: So... integer overflow. It sounds all fancy and technical, but if you've seen an odometer wrap around back to 0, that's all it is. If you only have, say, 3 digits, then if your score hits (1)000, it will only be able to display 000. Integer underflow is the same concept, but in reverse. If you try to subtract 1 from 000, it will actually subtract 1 from (1)000 and display 999 instead. So what's happening is that there's a glitch causing you to lose 2 lives at once, making you go from 1 to 255, and since 255 lives is not 0, it doesn't give you a game over. (In binary, (1)00000000 to (0)11111111) However, the game, presumably, only allows you to have 99 lives, so when you have 255 lives, it tries printing a 25 in the tens place and a 5 in the ones place, because it doesn't expect you to have 100+ lives. The 5 works normally, but the 25, well, doesn't. But remember, computers are stupid and take things literally, so it still attempts to find a 25th digit to use. And while I can't figure out what sort of bizarre encoding turns 25 into Y (it can't be alphanumeric, because that would imply 10 lives is A0), it stumbles upon Y as *a* 25th digit, turning 255 into y5

[@CiaranMaxwell]

why is 10 lives being A0 a problem? 9 is 09, but doesn't attempt to display the 0 because there's only one digit that needs showing. Next up would be 0 in the ones digit, and *something* in the tens digit. Can you go beyond 9 lives in Sonic 2 without glitches? Also, it could be alphanumeric but with letters missing. I can see unused letters (case-sensitive) being removed from the sprite sheet to save space.

[@prronce]

The real question... is y?

[@justineberlein5916]

@@CiaranMaxwell Okay, more exactly, it's that it needs to keep counting with *something*. For example, you *could* do hex with ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOP, but more normally, you just count 0123456789ABCDEEF. So the issue is that while, yes, Y *is* the 25th letter of the alphabet, that would imply that it always uses A for 1, B for 2, C for 3, etc. In other words, I'd expect something like ye lives instead of y5.

[@CiaranMaxwell]

@@justineberlein5916 ​ It makes perfect sense to me because I'm a programmer. If you don't know how computers convert integers into decimal numbers and how they display those decimal numbers, it makes no sense. Let me try to explain what's happening. Basically, fonts are just sprite sheets. When you want to convert an integer value below 10 into a decimal number to display, you usually add the character '0' (with an integer value of, for example, 56, to make it the 57th entry in the sprite sheet) to the number in question. To display a 7, you would add '0' (56, remember) to 7, resulting in 63. So you display whatever is at slot 63. If the sprite there is a 7, you display 7. However, computers are stupid. They don't know the intent, just what they're told to do. So, if the sprite at slot 63 is a thumbs-up emoji, it will display a thumbs up emoji. (This is how the Wingdings and Webdings fonts work. If you use Wingdings to put a registered trademark symbol after "Kong", spellcheck will say you put down "Kongf" because 'f' in normal fonts and 'registered trademark symbol' in Wingdings are at the same position in the sprite sheet. Yes, I speak from experience.) The lives display code is written to first convert the entire value into decimal. This puts it into three sets of four bits each (X Y Z, where X is hundreds, Y is tens, and Z is ones). It looks at X, glues Y to the back of it, then displays whatever is at the resulting value (XY) in the sprite sheet. Then, it looks at the last set (Z) and displays '0'+whatever. Note that Z has an extra offset applied to it and XY does not. This is important. This isn't supposed to matter because the value can't go above 00001011, which breaks down into 0000 0000 1011 (0 0 9). The first two sets thus can't be anything other than 0000 0000. Thus, the 10s digit location always displays a blank. (We would call it a "space" in a font.) However, thanks to this glitch, it _can_ go above 00001011 (9). Thus, because it doesn't know any better, when the computer looks at 11111111 (255), it breaks down 11111111 into 0010 0101 0101 (2 5 5 in decimal). X is 0010, Y is 0101, Z is 0101. Remember when I mentioned the thumbs-up emoji in my example? The same thing just happened. It wasn't told to display Slot 00000000 followed by Slot Z+'0', it was told to display Slot XY followed by Slot Z+'0'. Because Slot XY is 'y' and Slot Z+'0' is '5', it displays "y5".

[@justineberlein5916]

@@CiaranMaxwell I'm aware. Like I literally have a degree in this stuff. I think my confusion's more from focusing too much on ASCII. Like I totally get the concept of trying to find something and how it relates to, say, forgetting to terminate a string, and I've even seen it in other games, like with the item duplication glitch in pokemon. I'm just having a hard time imagining how weirdly the sprite sheet must be ordered for Y to be 25

[@BraveBlitz]

Gamechamp is the only person I watch where she could have a 7 minute patreon name readout and I’ll watch it because I find it weirdly entertaining.

[@lifeispotato7804]

Wait a minute, Gamechamp is a she?

[@no-lifenoah7861]

@@lifeispotato7804 13:30 Yea. She just has a deep voice lmao

[@thestarwolf3312]

@@no-lifenoah7861 “The more you know!!”

[@unofficialmajima617]

@@Kirisame__Marisa yeah, so, a she! cope.

[@DiegoG2004]

The Patreon names get more unique each time they go past. And the facts that she reads them all with the most serious voice possible is also amazing.

[@a-zadri]

Absolutely hilarious. I sent this to my friend as they adore Knuckles and silly things involving Knuckles, but now I'm slightly worried they're going to do it themselves. Also shout out to the person in the Patreon credits with a Secret Show reference in the name. You just forcibly resurfaced a lot of memories lmao.

[@tallestmanever4963]

What the voices overlapping at 10:55 said was, “Don’t worry, there are no more lengthy detours. From here on, we’re just trying to beat the game one level at a time.” And “Oh god, I ran out of space, ahaaha!”

[@porkyminch5131]

Can you explain wtf is he talking about!?

[@tallestmanever4963]

@@porkyminch5131 she* was talking about chemical plant zone act 2

[@greenscorpion64]

The original Sonic trilogy was my childhood. I've played these games to death throughout my life and it's good to see that, even after three decades, I'm still learning something new! Thank you Gamechamp! Keep being awesome!!!

[@Sonictmnt]

3:47 this includes the mobile release as well. I've tried to do the challenge on that platform, but I got stuck in aquatic ruin's boss, so without the wall turnaround, that version is non-viable too.

[@LuigiXHero]

Pretty much the same version

[@gammalolman580]

Even if it the mobile release didn't have that (and origins did), I doubt VG myths would have used that specific version due to the inconvenience of the controls sucking. This normally isn't an issue, safe for the small issue that if a normal controller had a chance of accidentally moving foward when pressing down or up, the mobile version just doubles that chance. For casual gaming it's fine, but it's unviable otherwise

[@LuigiXHero]

@@gammalolman580 well you could always connect a controller to your phone the game supports then just fine.

[@gammalolman580]

@@LuigiXHero does the game allow you to modify controller inputs?

[@aionicthunder]

@@gammalolman580 I’ve actually gotten to Death Egg Zone in that version. Surprisingly, I’ve only accidentally pushed right once. However, it does require a left press in Wing Fortress (for some reason, you can’t climb the first wall). And, as for the Aquatic Ruin boss? Absolutely infuriating without that feature. But far from impossible. The key is using the knockback from a glide hit to land on the left pillar. Honestly, the bigger overall problem is the lack of saved rings at checkpoints, so if you die at the Aquatic Ruins boss, you may as well restart the stage

[@KoyasuNoBara]

You make these look so interesting that I always want to try them. And then I remember that I kinda suck at the games _normally,_ and also that I'm watching a montage and not dealing with the many hours of replaying you have to do upon failure, and I instead just watch another one of your videos. (Also, thank you for the Teisel voice on my name/quote, I wasn't expecting that LMAO)

[@Ellicess]

It just hit me that I’ve been watching this channel for 5 years (and loving every video ;). I hope I can keep watching it for 5 more!

[@AzzyTheGreat]

I've only just found your channel today, but everything I've watched so far has been a delight. I love your sign-off, and I hope you're still out there creating content!

[@dragonace5177]

You are the only KZbinr who I stick around through the Patreon section for. Partly because of the funny names, partly because you have a very nice voice, and partly because I want you to tell me to get out of your house.

[@blakksheep736]

I'm invested in the worlds slowest game of chess.

[@Swagpion]

same

[@Side_N0te]

This video makes me question how many lattes Gamechamp has to sip. I'm also slightly worried about her having a heart attack from the sheer amount of caffeine she has ingested because of the large amount of said lattes.

[@KrazyKyle-ij9vb]

She might have to switch to decaf lattes at this rate!

[@metronicmagician1816]

Don’t worry the being bad at video games gives her immunity to caffeine overdose. It’s a small price to pay, but a tasty latte sipping price.

[@Grexan]

She’s gamechamp! She can handle that many lattes…maybe?

[@victikirby15]

Not to mention the potential bowel problems…

[@megatennepster3833]

See, this is why I don't drink coffee

[@shellbadorsrival314]

Part of me is disappointed that the sonic collection for nintendo ds wasn't used. It has Knuckles in sonic 2 and you can make saves at the start of each act, but button mapping would probably be an issue

[@gammalolman580]

VG myths always aim to be as inclusive as possible, that includes making sure you possibly cannot end your run due to your nose falling on top of the left button by accident. How inclusive a run that only few sadistic people would do actually is... That is for you to decide

[@LilyTheSmol]

Omg, I played that version so much when I was younger! But yeah, I'm pretty sure that version had literally nothing related to button mapping

[@EpicElf42]

When I saw this video in my feed, I was like "I think I've already seen this video, but I'll watch it again, I guess" and I'm glad I did because I didn't realize it was Gamechamp this time. Love the energy and performance, keep it up girl! Also, shout out to my favorite patreon name "Friendly reminder that it's NOT normal to sneeze. I have never sneezed" Gets me every time

[@inazumarai7690]

10:00 I don't know if anyone's already said this but: going from 0 lives to -1 lives sets it to the highest value for an 8-bit number, 255. (similar to the immortal eggman in sonic 1's final boss) and for some reason, it's represented as y5 since 'y' is the 25th letter in the alphabet (giving us 25 5). my guess is that the game can't use more than 2 characters to show the life count

[@champion_ofcloud-var]

yeah i looked it up the maximum lives you can get is 99 which is 2 digits

[@inazumarai7690]

@@champion_ofcloud-var nice

[@Allikiza]

Wasn't expecting a new video so soon, but I'll gladly take it.

[@Lemon_Planter]

Her last video got caught in copyright hell for AGES

[@callumfootitt5366]

A moment of appreciation for whoever "game chap says trans rights are human rights" truly a long time icon of the channel

[@jacobrobinson9507]

Lol, lmao even. Whp cares? I hate people putting politics in video games. Uninstall yourself

[@Interesting_Failure]

> You can't technically call them softlocks because you'll be able to keep playing EVENTUALLY... welp, time to call up Pikasprey again.

[@heterophobic]

i love how she always gives us tips and reminders as if we were actually going to attempt any of the insane things she does 💀

[@SwitchyWitch_]

That's why I love her videos ngl. It's just food for my autism ass brain that feeds on people's speech

[@heterophobic]

@@SwitchyWitch_ u r so real LMAO i absolutely agree

[@Pyrodiac]

I love how you make this comment as if everybody else hasn't already.

[@heterophobic]

@@Pyrodiac ??? okay

[@smt64productions40]

I would love to do this but I am not good at Classic Sonic games and my patience is low

[@VivBrodock]

So for those who are wondering 'y' is 250, so when you go to "-1 lives" it's 255 lives, this is known as an underflow. Because the code for the game wasn't prepared to handle a negative number it has to jump up to the maximum possible number. In an 8bit system 256 is the maximum possible integer value. Data is determined by 8 digit long strings of binary, meaning there's only 2^8 possible values a variable can hold. This is 256, but you'll often see the values top out at 255 because normally you count from 0-255 for 256 separate values.

[@Pyrodiac]

Hm. Understandable, but also not oversimplified, very good.

[@SukkinEBN]

do letters equal to a decimal? (a = 10, b = 20, etc.) Because Y is the twenty-fifth letter, so 25 x 10 = 250

[@Snow_Fire_Flame]

Nitpicking 1 year old KZbin comments: The Genesis was a 16-bit system, not an 8-bit system; and it's moot anyway because those "bit" counts are talking about addresses in memory, not the size of bytes for everything else like data. 8-bit systems can store numbers larger than 256 just fine, you just use two bytes and presto, you can store up to 65,535. Or four bytes and up to 4,294,967,295. It's just that the Sonic team thought that one byte was plenty for the lives counter, it wasn't a limitation of being an 8-bit or 16-bit system.

[@nastolgiablind2940]

Damn starbucks must be making a mint from these challenge runs

[@ZenoDLC]

Starbuck's already making mint without the runs

[@velvetbutterfly]

@@msultank701 Gamechamp uses she/they pronouns so kindly use them

[@ZenoDLC]

@@msultank701 Whaddaya mean "ruining"? It's clear enough that Champ wants to be called using those pronouns and is polite enough in asking for it, Velvet's just reminding you

[@puffena9013]

@@msultank701 If a person being themself ruins them for you... well I don't think anyone here is gonna bemoan your lack of continued viewership

[@timothymclean]

There's an exploit I found in the crafting system that lets you combine milk and coffee to the same effect as a StarBucks latte. Or just buy off-brand lattes.

[@alteriii]

I’ve been playing this game for YEARS and I had no idea that there’s an invincibility monitor in Oil Ocean at the entrance to the boss

[@ChaseVaccaro-ge3gk]

The first 5 Sonic games are really well crafted.

[@maragazh9993]

We'll miss you, Game Champ says Trans rights are Human rights! I am going to change this name soon, but I'll always support you GC!!

[@KonroMan]

Game Champs slow decent into madness after realizing she could’ve used a glitch to get pretty much infinite lives instead of grinding the life boxes on the roof of the level truly does show how people get when they unintentionally do something in a video game the hard way when there was a far easier way or unpatched glitch to use.

[@ZaCloud-Animations___she-her]

Gosh yes, she very well portrayed her own agony in condensed form. 😭

[@cipherfiedart7338]

Stumbled across you and your channel randomly as soon as this video went up. Absolutely love it!

[@lucymorrison]

I watched her a few years ago around the time of the Splatoon VGMyths, this video popped up in my recommended today haha

[@KiiBon]

9:23 - 10:55 This entire part feels improvised and I love it

[@SmoothTrooper22]

2 things 1. This is easily one of your funniest episodes 2. The score at 15:25 says Boob-o, nice

[@BakaTaco]

I was gonna comment about the boob score, but I thought that someone else MUST have noticed it. I was right!

[@lankymaccrazyhair264]

Nice

[@helfire14]

There is the Sonic Classics Collection for the DS, which has Sonic 2 & Knuckles on it, and thanks to the DS or 3DS's Dpad, it's a lot easier to avoid pressing left or right, but, I respect the choice to go the extra mile.

[@frankie11998]

Never in my time watching this channel would i ever have expected Gamechamp to turn the word Latte into an adjective

[@EthanTheWerewolf]

She has a really nice voice, i could listen to her talk for hours

[@roki3263]

Thank you for mentioning the physics changes in the Taxman and Stealth versions of the classics. I'm fed up of people constantly complaining at me for not wanting to play those versions because I don't like the physics, so this is a nice breath of fresh air.

[@Retroplayer6472]

This must have been hell to complete in one go. Even on a casual playthrough it's difficult, so this would have been 100 times worse with not pressing left or right

[@CalamitasCalliope]

2 videos in 2 weeks? Thank you Gamechamp, this is a July Christmas miracle.

[@irishvirus2009]

I've watched every single one of these videos up until now and still find it funny that you treat this like a guide, like any of us are insane enough to attempt what you do

[@Aeroductile1]

im amazed at the turnover between this and the last video considering what a nightmare this run was in terms of just timewasting softlocks (sorry, latte-locks) awesome video as always! thank you for answering another question i didnt know i needed answering

[@draga_]

0:09 love how she says that it's "long-awaited" even though the game is nearly 30 years old

[@TechnoKnight2520]

She?

[@draga_]

@@TechnoKnight2520 read her about section

[@Pyrodiac]

@@TechnoKnight2520 Gamechamp goes by she/her... I've said this at least 14 times now.

[@DOC_951]

I love how this is narrated as if we intend to do this ourselves

[@ImR3DACT3D]

Forcing someone to go through a gamechamps run is like a legal form of torture

[@caw64]

Ok can we talk about how funny this episode was? This one was a riot

[@pikaqte5418]

Yeah as a sonic 2 player for mega collection.... No save points is so freaking hard. At least classic collection allowed for that. Good luck Gamerchamp! You did amazing just scrounging for a way to do this run! We're on a shopping trip for an infinite supply of knuckles. Best line ever

[@Fluxuation]

“Sure there’s an actual genuine options menu in sonic origins” everyone: *I beg to differ*

[@kristhepermanentlyexhausted]

I love to hear the sound of a new Gamechamp video in the Morning! you love to hear the voice of everyone’s favorite worst videogame player ;)

[@echodff]

23:31 that's how I beat the final boss as a kid for the longest time. Later on I fell into short jumping but when I first saw that strategy as a kid it seemed way too risky, and hey, my spindash way worked. That was one of the few things I changed from running the same routes over and over and over. Everyone else is a speedrun champion, but that's how I played. To this day I don't know why I played that way. Maybe the sense of progression gave that dopamine hit over experimentation.

[@Tesl8n]

Okay, was legitimately worried about the slowest game of chess not being in the last video, thank gosh it's back

[@jaeusa160]

@12:25 That was my biggest obstacle with Knuckles, his jumps are just a few pixels shorter than Sonic and Tails, whose max height jumps would break those pillars. >:O

[@Ironmetal015]

20:08 My mind has not been blown, it is non-existent.

[@shadowgandalf]

Wow. That Death Egg trick looks like a nightmare, wrapped in a headache, covered in a layer of pain. And that’s without considering all the Latte Locks from earlier. I won’t be trying this run. I do not have that level of patience.

[@ObbyFeathersnoot]

I feel like at some point, listing all the patrons will be longer than the actual challenges.

[@isthatagamer8844]

Gamechamp definitely is a Latteholic, especially after that run.

[@kindnesstemmie6625]

"Two lattes please" "So, what game are you playing today?" "...Make that 3 lattes"

[@kubabojarski8950]

13:24 That message made me contemplate everything until i saw what was in information. You learn something new every day.

[@casualjacob776]

S3&K No Right is probably my favorite video you've done, so it's great to see the same challenge done in the sequel. I can't wait to see you do it in the Threequel: Knuckles the Echidna 1.

[@gammalolman580]

There are only 3 versions of that game that have knuckles. First is the rom hack... Which isn't feasible since yarr:tm: The second is the mobile port. Theorically possible, especially since I heard that controller support exists, but this isn't a viable strategy due to the third option... ... Sonic origins, which is a direct port of the mobile port. And the video explains how this version of the game patched a very powerful ability of knuckles, that being the ability to change direction when gliding to the left side of the screen.

[@steelegagnon5273]

gamechamp is at it again! great job - that was insane

[@MDPOPE]

I like how she wouldn't play that one copy of sonic 2 and knuckles cause you can't rotate at the left edge, then never says if she did that at any point in the run

[@lunatheluma3804]

13:00 she uses it against the totem boss

[@janberentsen9890]

FINALLY!! The sequel to may favorite episode of VG myths is out! I've been waiting more than three years for this one!

[@pixelate4131]

In the first 13 seconds he already tells me that "Sonic the Hedgehog 2 is the long awaited sequel to Sonic the Hedgehog 3" this video is gonna be great

[@pixelate4131]

@@lenabrokaw714 by the time I made this comment I had literally only watched those 13 seconds, I did not see the stream clip with the pronouns on the top of the screen until later, and no offense but the voice didn't really help either

[@Icalasari]

@@filiptankovcin3047 _Sex_ is the part encoded in DNA. _Gender_ is what your brain is coded for. They can be different

[@nukey_nuke]

I like how the captions arnt auto generated, keep up the good work.

[@tripplea_3338]

I think this is the first time one single joke was enough for me to subscribe

[@Gamechamp3000]

Oooh, which one, out of curiosity?

[@tripplea_3338]

@@Gamechamp3000 your explanation of the infinite lives glitch

[@tabikat]

your videos are always such a bright spot in my day Ms Champ. I hope you're well!

[@ianhay527]

Your patreon's really make watching to the end worth it

[@thatbluegametp2]

Someone: what’s your favourite part of a gamechamp video Me: her reading and her patreon supporters names

[@aleksaakovic8182]

Hey champ,have you ever thought about a sort of "quick myths", short,easy and quick to make, something to do when working on bigger projects like the 1 hour kh video?

[@Gamechamp3000]

This one actually *is* one of the smaller filler projects!

[@aleksaakovic8182]

@@Gamechamp3000 Oh ok, i was wondering if theres gonna be a full on sub series on filler like this,its a nice change of pace

[@CommanderWiggins]

@@Gamechamp3000 30 minute video being a smaller filler project. Gamechamp is just built different.

[@radboyrandom1976]

I've watched enough gamechamp videos that I remember the Patreon backer names even those that are playing the slowest game of chess

[@dazcarrr]

sipping a latte is a genuine strategy that *is* required for these runs. if you aren't having a coffee, you will fail

[@davidgutierrez-xc8di]

Holy carp, I thought this was the other sonic and knuckles video you did, I didn't expect another video in at least a few more months. This is a welcome surpise.

[@chrisaske9995]

I was born hard of hearing, so thank you so much for putting the extra effort for captions on your videos!

[@SlingDbz]

“Sonic 2 is the long awaited sequel to sonic 3

[@StupidNPCBoar]

I accidentally read “9 minutes” as “9 months”, but still. A gamechamp video is a gamechamp video.

[@clawcakes]

something something mpreg joke

[@jonathanbol3969]

Ah yes the good old underflow glitch, Y is the 25th letter and the number of lives you ended up with is 255, or -1 if the number was correctly programmed

[@EythanLee]

Nope, the lives are an 8 bit value so going under 0 underflows it to the max value. 255

[@jonathanbol3969]

@@EythanLee right, under not over, thanks

[@EythanLee]

@@jonathanbol3969 np!

[@rustandsilver3495]

Something i love about your videos is framing these challenge runs, you being amazing at video games, as you somehow being so bad at video games that you don't know how to move, or copy as kirby, or build larger decks in Kingdom hearts. Its great

[@orangecrisis8568]

Love the reading of the long welsh town name, very funny pronunciation Ms.Champ

[@jblen]

I thought you were going to say they were called latte locks because they happen a latte Edit: how many lattes total did you drink?

[@Juannnnnnnnnnn]

I love how she calls soft locks "latte locks" the entire video

[@TechnoKnight2520]

She?

[@Pyrodiac]

@@TechnoKnight2520 Gamechamp goes by she/her.

[@wunnup3229]

8:55 I'm sure I mentioned in a previous video that I think Gamechamp3000-san is adorable, but I think it's worth repeating. I live for moments like these, and her gushing about the cats in Bowser's Fury.

[@funnycat9962]

Homegirl must be trying to replicate that one Futurama episode with all the lattes she’s drinking.

[@kerrrobertson3699]

I was expecting to wait another month or two for rockman 4 but I am absolutely excited for this. Haven't watched yet, but I'm glad to see new content!

[@FavineMoore]

my man, I loved this game as a kid. Keep up the good work .

[@pun2023]

I can’t wait for her inevitable “can you beat shadow the hedgehog without pressing anything” video

[@galfinsp7216]

What about “STH without guns”?

[@hjag-is-also-ourplebop]

"y5" is the game's way of saying "255," by the way, so while you practically have infinite lives, if you're not a gamer you'll end up blowing them all anyway.

[@Pyrodiac]

You can't really accidentally lose 255 lives, even if you're little cousin Timmy who has never touched a controller.

[@hjag-is-also-ourplebop]

@@Pyrodiac Good point

[@Danny-zw7sw]

I remember Sonic Spinball having the same sort of infinite lives glitch I accidentally found as a kid, didn’t know Sonic 2 had it also, makes me think about the other games.

[@cashbrady4074]

This brings back memories and I have missed the good old without pressing right or left challenge in sonic you brought so much memories thank you!

[@Hello86257]

“Lattelocks” are actually called deathlocks, but lattelocks are way funnier

[@atruepanda1782]

Oh sweet! We don't have to support Sonic Origins! This is certified epic gaming from gaming champ Gamechamp3000!

[@1ronDragon]

Was watching the twitch archive of this earlier today ,good to hear your feeling better after your cold 😁 (imagine the game pausing itself during the final fight 😉)

[@emberthefox4951]

20:22 Wait, you mean to say that I have been unintentionally skipping most of Wing Fortress my entire life? Here I was thinking that there was a way to turn it off and I was too stupid to find it.

[@Gamechamp3000]

No yeah there's like a whole level to the left and nobody ever goes there

[@emberthefox4951]

@@Gamechamp3000Amazing how level design fails can cause entire intended routes to just go ignored.

[@shadowzangoose]

I always used Super Sonic to skip most of the upper route, so it took me a while to notice there was anything down there

[@Fnaffan777]

BillehBawb shoutout let’s gooo, awesome video! These are the best patreon names I’ve ever heard.