SNS5 SSBU - FOX MVG | MkLeo (Joker) Vs. Wishes (Pokemon Trainer) Smash Ultimate Winners Top 32

[@zerin4244]

Leo giving this man false hope just to tear him down last game

[@Rhaemos]

Keep dreaming boy

[@djcothra4201]

The crowd got to him

[@juicecup2545]

Gave him some WISHES

[@corruptedbrain6]

Alexandre Chevrier lmao leo gave him false wishes

[@nadermustafa7191]

Leo didn’t give him false hope, Leo got outplayed

[@rockmonkey11100]

smash is so much better to watch with a loud crowd. feels more like a sport

[@rockmonkey11100]

@LA BLACK ROSE esport

[@granturismo315]

I know right I get so into it

[@_Dumb_Answers]

feel a bit bad for leo though, the crowd would usually be against him, which is what happens to all top players. He is used to it though

[@NailujG]

@@_Dumb_Answers I guess the crowd is wanting to see someone new on top?

[@durke5210]

I get distracted

[@alvind5515]

Give it up for Wishes, only one that was able to take two games from Leo

[@flashdr1ve]

that 1st match finish was fucking CRISP.

[@dawae8937]

RIP MARS totally forgotten

[@Amquacktador]

Marss made it!

[@shroomshroom7566]

Alvin D Lol Now marss, Kameme, and Samsora, edit: and samsora again.

[@lezzei]

crazy how dominant leo is, to the point where being able to take more than one game off of him is considered impressive lmao

[@DarkThomy]

To say this was actually the closest match Leo had during the whole tournament..! And by far !

[@venkateshbatman]

This match was better than grand finals lmao

[@theyakima4184]

Watch Zackray vs Mkleo

[@SeriousStriker]

@@theyakima4184 He said during that specific tournament, the SSC or Frostbite sets have no baring on his comment.

[@chaos_blue1089]

And this is why, as a Joker main, I have accepted MKLeo as my new god.

[@willmalony7712]

and this is why, as a tier whore, i have bandwagoned on a top player.

[@Andriale]

@@willmalony7712 toasted

[@jacobcampbell2443]

@@willmalony7712 ouch salty git gud kid

[@willmalony7712]

i made this comment a month ago as a joke haha, jokers busted but i accept how good leo is, he can win with really anyone

[@fizzycreature6359]

Actually I remember seeing Leo say that his play with joker is only 60% of his skill meaning that joker is one of the only characters that Leo could be this consistent with

[@restfulsounds3992]

12:27 MkLeo: “well, I guess I’ll actually try now.”

[@josephagnetti8921]

Now he will try

[@eggnogsaber]

More like, now I've started to be able to adapt

[@swagchomp]

@@eggnogsaber more like "let me try now"

[@Carleritano]

@@swagchomp more like "let's get to 20% of my power"

[@evo683]

Carlos Garza time to take off the mask

[@marche800]

I think Wishes was starting to fall victim to nerves in that last game. Mk had already started adapting and it's easy to let your guard down or enter a haze when you're up a game on such an accomplished player.

[@camvalles123]

It happens to me when I know im gonna lose. Like ill try and duke it out but when I have that thought in my head it usually ends up happening. Lol

[@lovelypanda111]

I dont think he got nervous...it was just that leo started to adapt AND started to "try hard" I dont want to take the credit from wishes...he played freaking incredible but in the end Leo knew he was better by a huge margin.

[@marche800]

@@lovelypanda111 I don't fully agree. I think he was playing significantly worst in the last match then he was at the first. I didn't feel the same energy.

[@keenzummbie4933]

@@marche800 cus he knew he was getting played, Leo even smiled after loosing cus he knew he was getting in his head and all it takes is one tilt. Mad respect tho

[@Evil_Beauty]

it's easy to build up momentum in the first two games, especially when you have a lead. but when it comes to match game the pressure to seal the deal becomes nerve wrecking. it's like you trying to play passively at the end b.c you know it's the final round and you don't want to screw up, like that fall in the second round... that you ended up throwing the match altogether.

[@sams802]

Even tho the whole crowds cheered for wishes, Leo’s Joker is still amazing!

[@HopeArk]

Most people cheer for the underdog, Makes it interesting if they win

[@NightMare_SSB]

I cheered for leo

[@owlflame]

I cheered for Leo. I've been waiting for him to come back. He's literally the reason Zero retired.

[@danieltaylor1424]

@@owlflame Not really....

[@owlflame]

@@danieltaylor1424 Zero retired because he started getting bad results. Because MKLeo showed up and started beating his ass.

[@HoodBodega]

Bro I’m deadass just watching Wishes lose a bunch of tournaments cause of that Luigi tweet LMAO

[@CA-rg2wv]

Same lol. Might I recommend Wishes vs Marss game 5 replay, extra juicy.

[@Sky_Firez]

Lmao, imagine being Wishes. 😂

[@lmao2302]

Then don't watch this one because this actually highlights his skill.

[@v3ndali]

Ikr ever since I heard of wishes and his goons I hated them all and If he see this or something (doubt it) he can go f himself

[@dougjones1667]

Case Filled what’s the story behind this guy?

[@taransingh3330]

Lets get some respect for my man wishes

[@SG-xn2rb]

Fuck wishes

[@quantum6637]

Fuck danger man

[@Carleritano]

@@SG-xn2rb im with you, fuck him!!!

[@who8859]

@@CM_CHESS im a bit out of the loop. Why do people hate wishes?

[@missing8275]

Fuck wishes

[@KP_Uravity]

I was really rooting for wishes, but leos plot armor kicked in

[@catarathegato1240]

Yes my favorite stand

[@evo683]

VCorleone 1 ARSENE

[@t.s.isaac1516]

he was at the legendary percent 13:21

[@RODNY5657]

T.S.Isaac 15 nice

[@KP_Uravity]

@@t.s.isaac1516 nice

[@maltlickey]

Damn he gave Leo more trouble than anyone else. Plot armor is strong with Leo though. Ggwp

[@flashdr1ve]

Leo: *a n a l y s i s c o m p l e t e*

[@Jeejington]

3:30 Ivysaur was the real thief I never saw it coming

[@jeilastnamejei5831]

Wishes' mind was tpo fast for my eyes

[@cooperchance7720]

Had me done in

[@treyschneider6984]

I main Pokémon Trainer and MKLEO is one of my (if not my very) favorite player(s). Naturally, I was attracted to this set. I won't spoil too much, but fellow smash brothers, if you enjoy watching either of these players or characters, you are going to enjoy this set.

[@carsoncoley1]

You sound like a bandwagon fan.

[@treyschneider6984]

@@carsoncoley1 I might sound like it, but I have been a fan of Leo for 3-4 years now.

[@aidansingerhoff2615]

Can we PLEASE see more Wishes vs MKLeo matches? This was the MOST hype set of the tournament imo.

[@glitchyglitchy3925]

An amazing set. Both fought very well. In the end, MkLeo was just more experienced and adaptable. You can see the moment where he learned enough to counter PT's playstyle. That's what makes him a top tier player.

[@DNKG669]

PT?

[@connordickson5674]

I think Leo kinda just figured him out by the end, but Wishes played an excellent set, mad respect for him

[@pokeyclawz8727]

Why do announcers always think they’re taking a deep breath or break or something when waiting on the platform after dying to arsene. They’re waiting out the timer.

[@biffyguybiffy6292]

Please point me to the set when the timer drops to zero. I have yet to see it in ultimate. Unless you’re referring to arsene.

[@pokeyclawz8727]

Biffyguy Biffy the arsene timer yeah

[@alexgipson5363]

That's still technically taking a break lol ur just getting a bonus from it to for clocking down the gauge timer

[@10XSeiga]

It's actually better to use the 2 seconds of invincibility to hit joker and lower the timer on Arsene. A simple grab 2 pummels and throw follow up can half the 30 seconds of Arsene to 15 easy

[@ethanv7330]

@@10XSeiga no this also takes the momentum out of MkLeo. Waiting has more than 1 purpose.

[@tonyacosta187]

*both players 2/2 going on to the final game* Leo: I’m about to end this man’s whole career

[@icantsleep945]

Its hard to be the best.

[@Adacoys]

12:01 You can see the mix of nerves and excitement build up from Wishes. Sad he lost! only one game away :/

[@Azz-gr3du]

Alan Alva nah he deserved it after what he said to that Luigi.

[@kaito9836]

I like the respect that Wishes has towards Leo on those matches. Unlike any other players, he just smiles whenever he loses a stock. Very nice of him.

[@ryannagle7966]

Leo is super amazing. I love watching him win. He’s got the best demeanor for a champion as well.

[@viniciuslopesarruda8452]

MkLeo improved SO MUCH with his Joker after 1 year

[@bluebisk3888]

12:22 Bulbasaur Plush

[@Fathur45]

*Bulbasaur

[@bluebisk3888]

@Fathur 45 Oh whoops. Thanks.

[@Fathur45]

@@bluebisk3888 No worries .nice catch though

[@kuuja4345]

2:49 is someone barking in the background?

[@zanioxl3663]

Nah they're just yelling "LET'S GO WISHEEEES"

[@yunoalex4130]

i like how leo stayed confident and chill even tho the whole crowd was rooting for wishes

[@SenstrixGS]

Why we all love leo

[@milaanimation335]

0:57 KING CRIMSON

[@breadcyclone]

The 360p be looking hella fine

[@bozardo101]

MOST ENTERTAINING MATCH EVER!!! 🔥🔥🔥

[@sherlockholmes9111]

Sorry dude what's the meaning of " entertaining "? It's because I speak mainly the french.

[@seanjessee0610]

Elpsycongroo in this context, fun to watch.

[@sherlockholmes9111]

@@seanjessee0610 oh ok.. thanks man

[@seanjessee0610]

Elpsycongroo I gotchu man.

[@monkkind]

It seems like Wishes gave Leo more of a challenge than Samsora, which says a LOT

[@Thecreeperboombox]

I might be wrong but I think there's a possibility that PT does better against joker than peach, especially with the new patch

[@ethanv7330]

@@Thecreeperboombox MkLeo might also have a lot more practice with peach and daisy because they're far more common.

[@sezarsurge9037]

@@ethanv7330 nah japan tournament melded him into a destroyer

[@mkbbacon5445]

@@Thecreeperboombox Joker is possibly a losing matchup for Peach, a lot of Peaches seem to think. He bodies her in neutral and she has the damage to give him Arsene, but contrary to what a lot of people think she can't kill well unless it's off of ledge trapping or fair if she has a read or it just hits (because it's the size of a planet). And now that's even more true since in 3.1, bthrow and fair got nerfed.

[@RemyBeast]

That was a great set.

[@mccookies3664]

Dear god, that is some quality Joker

[@victorortega1036]

Bruh Wishes face is the most hilarious thing lmao 😂 When he was beating Leo he looked so hyped 😂😂 he looks like that regular degular dude who got lucky and is yelling at his head: "OMG I can't believe it, I got this, I got this, I got this... YOLO!!!!!?? WOOO!" 😂

[@ericbeall7675]

Wishes just made a bunch of fans off of this video alone.

[@august-5085]

This was so damn hype. Mad props to Wishes for doin so well against the top player in Ultimate

[@venkateshbatman]

LOL first game wishes win the commentators yell "that's highway robbery"

[@irreleverent]

Mostly because he absolutely stole a game he wasn't likely winning with some bold offstage play.

[@venkateshbatman]

@@irreleverent yeah but it was the way the commentators said it that it was funny

[@axeg]

is this the same "wishes" that got destroyed by an unknown 15 year old while throwing a fit and smashing his controller?

[@luke3810]

@BLU3_RNGER mobile.twitter.com/cloud805/status/1235706035223924737

[@M1RACLEWEAVER]

I was rooting for Leo, but 3:29 from Wishes was sick

[@RenzZlax]

How do i cancel ivysaurs up b to ledge like wishes does?

[@danyeo21]

Make sure you have a junp left when your off the stage or just be in range for when you fast fall. Off stage you up B to tether to ledge and immediately press down and you'll lose the tether. Choice is to jump and tether again or just tether again if your in range.

[@SamWeltzin]

Man...Joker's like a mid-to-high-tier character normally, then temporarily becomes top-tier about twice a stock. It's crazy. lol

[@10XSeiga]

Yeah. 30 seconds. Less if you dont fear Arsene. Arsene dies to grab combos and pummels.

[@Evil_Beauty]

SamWeltzin That's b.c he's the Wild Card. ^^

[@DGSnowolf]

The moment when ivy grabs joker at 10% and can just kill him without any possible input to stop it....

[@Stickmanlolz]

Mkleo DI'd in twice which led to a vine whip right at the blast zone. It's very avoidable

[@MCWaxC]

Finally, some Zard action! Poor guy’s only good for a handful of moves these days.

[@TapWaterCo]

Anyone know the origin of the "yer" chant? I hear it all the time in sets with people from the east coast

[@meliodas8356]

Welcome to the black community. Where yer is basically calling out to your buddy or whatnot. Or when people get hype.

[@theexaltedlt8222]

It's a new York thing. In smash there are different regions. Tristate is where wishes is from. Tristate is Pennsylvania, New York and New Jersey.

[@mattynigma]

Smash commentators, please study this commentary. Accurate and revealing observations, in depth meta discussion, framing the match (I.e. Talking about the players in a way that's relevant to the match), and professionalism.. Very impressed. Clearly this isn't Al Michaels and John Madden, but this is a blueprint for the way you should commentate a smash match. Yeah, about four people will read this post, but I know I'm right

[@juicecup2545]

Matt Goodwin "I know I'm right" Pfffffffft

[@Yin7094]

wow i'm impressed with wishes' decision making in the sets he won. unlike tweek, he had perfect focus, knew where to be and when to be there, managed to keep the advantage against leo, who is a very technical player who rarely makes mistakes. those were really good games for wishes.

[@Amquacktador]

If you analyze the games that Wishes won vs the ones he lost: on the first ones he changed the pokemon a lot. In the ones he lost he almost always leaned on Ivysaur, which made him predictable.

[@jcs3146]

17:09-17:11 Small but a little video glitch

[@scuot7327]

Leo is such a great fighter that he defines the meta even by mimicking him or by countering him.

[@PinkStar495]

11:55 hitboxes.................??

[@blinkasto182]

MkLeo needs more mexican crowd. Like just a bunch of guys screamin' "viva mexico cabroneeees" or "ahuevoo!" stuff like that

[@angelr-t7608]

@Thomas Paradis he's from mexico tho lol

[@juanjoserumbojuanchi5244]

No way, mexican smash community is awful af.

[@Pathfinding-earth]

Why he doesn't use lucina or ike anymore?

[@ebukaaniedobe1327]

Luis Balsas ike is falling off and Lucina is the character you start tryna play if you think you’re gonna lose the set

[@staniskucharski4491]

Been a speedrunner viewer forever. Why wasn't I aware of the smash scene? SMH

[@Slivr]

Wishes is great but has gotta stop using flare blitz Also I'd like to see him abuse the neutral air on ivy more

[@danyeo21]

As a PT main all I can say is sometimes you just gotta do it.

[@Slivr]

Flare blitz? Sure but if he misses every one of them...

[@danyeo21]

The only rational explanation I can give you without joking is he used it to recover but was too high. Happens often.

[@Slivr]

I use it to recover all the time but never above the stage, that's just asking to get hit

[@seththomas5091]

I love Leo but i was really surprised by wishes performance in def gonna watch more of him he makes me wanna pick up trainer. Wishes is so crazy good a fantastic player

[@damiancarr168]

I'm going to be honest, this is an amazing set and wishes is an amazing player but his squirtle bothers me to no end. As a PT main he is making squirtle mistakes that should have been ironed out week 1 and it confusing seeing them after 7 months of being out. It's actually to the point that without these mistakes wishes could have won handily, that's how big some of the mistakes where. Also yet another game that does to show never trust commentators when PT is involved. Alot of outright falsehoods spoken in this match.

[@nicolausthothmes2325]

Somehow i get the feeling your pt is not even a third as good as wishes.

[@chrisdrums1910]

damian carr I was thinking the exact same thing. His ivysaur is insanity though.

[@Koujicoco]

I can’t tell if it’s joker that’s amazing, Leo thats amazing, or both that’s amazing

[@misaelmartinez9151]

Anybody knows wishes twitch channel??

[@doomgirl5341]

Try to look for it in his twitter

[@tristanjones1671]

Wish7s

[@NnsNGnb]

2人とも掴みからの火力の取り方やばいな

[@ilrathCXV]

Wishes encouraging the crowd in the beginning only to lose the bracket is like someone teabagging at the beginning of the match only to lose. Wishes played well but I believe he let the hype get to his head.

[@kontrol42]

The final kill felt so heavy... getting knocked out because someone parried right in your recovery is horrible

[@Vortical_IV]

Who will win A Pokemon boi or a gun boi

[@Fizz-Q]

*G U N*

[@Hector-junko]

Yall see that ivysaur plush at 12:21 lol

[@rpgchampion6057]

Am I the only one who thinks Ivysaur up air and down air are stupid? I mean they kill way too early

[@KevSB07]

Down air is a spike, so early kills are kind of a given Up air as a kill I am fine with because he has limited kill options without it honestly the thing to complain about is their hitboxes, which are absurdly large, granted I don't find this that much of an issue either

[@rpgchampion6057]

@@KevSB07 Sorry I meant the hitboxes for the most part.

[@KevSB07]

@@rpgchampion6057 wokay

[@owlflame]

MKLeo is literally the reason Zero retired. I've been waiting for him to come back.

[@dende_ult714]

That's not true but dream if you want

[@axreviewsandanimations3082]

Proof?

[@owlflame]

@@axreviewsandanimations3082 MKLeo was at the top of the PGR around when Zero retired.

[@axreviewsandanimations3082]

That's not proof, that's speculation, and he already said the payment wasn't worthy, so you have no proof

[@owlflame]

​@@axreviewsandanimations3082 If you wanna think it's about the money, go ahead. To me it just seems like "the greatest smash player" retired as he started losing a lot and people can't get over it

[@jacko9214]

And there it goes. The only player who made Leo sweat.

[@barbarictearemedy]

Wishes, the one who did the best out of everybody against Leo’s joker.

[@kuzon565]

(Sarcastically) i love how leo damn near lost game 2 then shook his head in disappointment when he clutched it

[@samanthabrown4553]

Wishes Pokemon trainer: I'm going to win this Leo''s joker : I'm a joke to you

[@frailreality4063]

samantha brown Leo’s Joker: *Am I a joke to you?*

[@samanthabrown4553]

Didn't even notice that lol

[@Ownly]

This set was so hype jeez

[@justice7788]

15:55 some kids getting yelled at

[@DREAMSQU33ZE]

Wishes’ Pokemon Trainer is pretty entertaining 👍 I’ll usually root for MKLeo though. His composure and brilliance is inspirational

[@imkrakenup7366]

7:07 That's not a slow grab

[@tomasribbeck]

That Nair into Nair into Up b just makes me know that wishes won that game, even if Leo won the rest

[@lilginger6236]

Really good set from these two

[@joebiden613]

why do you need a headset for smash 💀

[@milesandres3554]

Probably bcuz of the crowd,so it would be for focusing

[@atier118]

It just works ... now where have I heard that before... KING CRIMSON NO KORUYOKU

[@Mullkaw]

same can be said about Joker's Stand Stand Name: 「アルセーヌ」 Stand User: 「雨宮 蓮」 Strength: A Speed: B Range: C Durability: C Precision: B Potential: B

[@supagremlin3274]

The end of that first game was fuckin sick

[@jackwilson9468]

Tournaments in smash 4: "Everyone abuses the broken mess that Is Bayonetta and the competitors fuck around just to piss off people" Tournaments in smash ultimate: "People try their best with the character they love and make a great show to watch".

[@whisperingcrown591]

What even is ivysaur???

[@lilblumf]

wishes is on point

[@mikeruli6886]

19:56 in the back sad faces and false clapping, and I wonder, where are those plutos que nos ivan ganar??? I donde estaaaan y donde estaan 🎶🎵🎶🎤

[@el_alex1807]

Dude this match was hype

[@mrcriticr]

How am I supposed to view this without my drink?!?!

[@nashineworks8318]

Even though wishes lost he put in such a fucking great fight I loved it, best Pokemon trainer ever

[@Yin7094]

leo's face always looks like it hides a lot of existential angst

[@cesarinfashion1]

The last stage was so distracting..

[@bryangaldamez790]

Just look at leo when he's losing. No reaction at all, even when he hears the crowd against him. That's what makes him number 1 in the world

[@icysand3962]

Yeoooo that first game ended so hype!!

[@RandomDude647]

3:26 this combo holy SHIT

[@elijahkeay3906]

Leo stop destroying people with your joker. You’re gonna get my not nerfed

[@Tarrandus]

The of the first game was HYPE!

[@dylanr.7760]

I feel bad for the people liked joker before mkleo went wild. They are seen as tier pickers lol.

[@hyperstargaming6150]

After a lot of shit talk I’ve heard Wishes do, I have no respect for him and I honestly hope he loses a lot more and gets put in his place.

[@Joe-zn5je]

Dont get me wrong leo is a god, dominating with ike was insane. But, Joker as a character is broken its like ike and shiek fused

[@Joe-zn5je]

Ive 3 stockef 4.7 jokers because they got up there by countering and f smashing.

[@jffuentealba8226]

Leo giving lessons to US as always

[@fortressofsolitude2960]

Wishes lost but he showed us joker's weaknesses

[@dende_ult714]

What are they? Maybe you saw something I didn't

[@doomgirl5341]

@@dende_ult714 His weight is one of them

[@dende_ult714]

@@doomgirl5341 oh yh true what else?

[@messiahalba7236]

@@dende_ult714 he's weak to waifus

[@fortressofsolitude2960]

@@dende_ult714 Maybe i'm wrong but i think this: Joker is vulnerable to recovery, he can only do it very deeply. Dtilt is easily punishable and his neutral tools in general are weak against multihit moves. Gun landing is not so safe like it seems

[@dubsteboi]

Joker wins again. Not surprised. Very cool character!

[@boimesa8190]

leo never looking like he enjoys smash xD