Pound 2016 - Mango (Fox) Vs. Hungrybox (Jigglypuff) - Grand Finals - SSBM

[@1001011011010]

Year of the Puff.

[@mbk9901]

666x

[@RAGE343]

20zz

[@kindergardner7410]

+Dr Fumbles LMAO brilliant

[@jfp521]

+Dr Fumbles THANK YOU lol

[@affingtones2570]

Going strong.

[@deviljho3]

Love how Hbox is keeping this one character alive.

[@megabullets2222]

+Deviljho seriously, he's the only puff I see right now

[@Massamom]

HBox has been having a fantastic run as of late.

[@coyrex1480]

Yes he has been. Next to armada he's currently the best in my opinion, Maybe even better in these last few months.

[@mohammedramadan291]

+CoyRex1 Yeah true my friend. If Hbox wins Smash Summit 2 and defeats armada, he will be the new undisputed King of Smash.

[@Massamom]

CoyRex1 We'll see how the other players adapt. Exciting times.

[@strawhats100]

+ProjectZuel speaking of adaptation...does hbox know how to shield drop or no? just curious. I think he'd be even scarier if he implemented it into his game play against aggressive rush down spacies approaching him while on platform stages like BF/Yoshis

[@Slashx92]

+strawhats100 shield drop rest IMBA

[@HotelMarioMD]

Mang0 the new 2nd Place Master Krey

[@clem5419]

Your profile picture needs to chill

[@DaGavinX]

Hbox: 1 20XX: 0.

[@mbk9901]

You mean 666x

[@patrickstar2043]

+Martin K correction 666xx: 1 20xx: 0 let's go puff

[@smasherbasher8937]

God I love how much emotion Hbox puts in whenever he plays

[@XtremeKillah101]

that last handshake... gr smash you watching?

[@NerdBitesWeekly]

+Tazzwar Azam Most Awkward Handshakes #2 haha

[@jaggedsigns3O11]

Anticlimactic ending but God damn if hbox didn't play well

[@toyotagaming]

Mango switched with Hungrybox for the title King of 2nd place lol

[@theinternetpacifist4898]

LMAO

[@itsScoots]

14:30 Such good coverage. Hbox a beast.

[@jdmh_]

Hbox has been a monster recently!!

[@FolksWhite]

Well done Hbox! Keep 'em coming! Mango get your shit together. You're better than this.

[@IWatchAnime92]

WOW Juan! 3 Rest KOs in Game 3/w 3 stocks left.

[@anthonyderrenbacher4109]

666X has arrived. But seriously i never thought that i would have seen Hbox beating Mango in sets much less them being 3-1 this year. Great time to be a Hbox fan.

[@max_shutup]

+monando guy I don't think 666XX will happpen cause all other Jiggs are shit.

[@haniifadnan8384]

+monando guy so true

[@ssbmgameri5iti]

+AcerMacIrish Prince Abu is the messiah

[@SIMIFU]

+AcerMacIrish those crew battles showed the truth.

[@meosk]

Can we get husband+wife for more large melee event commentary?

[@Bones0]

+Löwenherz Agreed, I love how they stay on topic about what the players are doing and not go off on tangents.

[@meosk]

i just think they have a really good energy about them, whether playing together or doing commentary together. you can also tell they really know, and love, what they're talking about, as they have a history with this game

[@shiv604]

+Löwenherz What? Is this a joke? They were awful. Wife not so bad, but husband was so out of touch with today's meta, I almost couldn't watch this set. Husband especially.

[@anthonyderrenbacher4109]

+shiv sixohfor the chat wanted them off so bad. in a way i kind of feel bad for them. its obvious that they are trying but its hard when they don't really keep up with the meta. I think the worse part was the s2j vs landerous set where there was extreme biased against s2j and little hype from them.

[@WTFate]

+shiv sixohfor Yeah dude I don't get it either. I like Husband and Wife, but their commentary is just fucking terrible. They are not knowledgeable at all anymore

[@matttennis]

There are so many reasons to adore Hungrybox, but for me, two stand above the rest: he mains Jigglypuff, and in an era where everyone plays as stock characters like Fox or Marth, it is fantastic to see; and he is such a good sport. I mean, just look at the ending when he consoles Mango.

[@carbon13]

Marth is still hip. Shiek and Fox are the broke ones.

[@Kuribohdudalala]

Poor GIMR

[@PJBxx]

It's nice to see Mang0 opt for the respect handshake over the pound with HBox, and then gives him the extra dab before leaving the stage, considering the past bad blood between them. Maybe that's silly, or I'm reading too much into it, but it warms my heart a bit.

[@Back2Zack]

i think a lot of it has to do with hboxs style changing. his puff is more of an aggressive wall now and definitely not boring to watch. i feel like hes earned some respect back.

[@samuelvibritannia4831]

8:32 what's hilarious is that Wife commentated a match between Mango and Mew2King where he mentioned how broken puff was with the down b kill. Not throwing blame or anything, I'm just struck by the history they have in this game.

[@Michael-hc2hp]

Wasn't it Scar who talked about how broken rest is?

[@masaz2770]

Seriously if HBOX doesn't win EVO 2016 I don't think he'll win it I mean this is seriously the most consistent rampage he has had in a long ass time

[@hymnsbydaniel]

Right now he's playing the best he has ever. Only person who can possibly stop him is Armada and maybe Leffen, only because Leffen hasn't been to a US major in a while so HBox hasn't played him and may he caught by surprise.

[@Slashx92]

i'm from the future, he won, and well deserved

[@dacdacbruce2997]

1:05 Serpent shape dair grab, grounded opponent variation

[@ThePianoSpeaks]

I always compare Melee and Tennis, in terms players' styles, and of course, history. Please let me know if you agree! Ken = Sampras PC Chris = Agassi KDJ = Borg Shiz = Johnny Mac lol Mew2king = Federer (overtook Sampras and dominated) Mango = Nadal (aggressive as hell and took over M2K) HBox = Djokovic (frustratingly consistent and dominant) Armada = Murray (more variety than HBox) PPMD = Raonic (hit or miss) Leffen = Berdych (bad boy)

[@torygalaxy]

A oc

[@nahor88]

+ThePianoSpeaks Basketball: Ken = Jordan PC Chris = Malone KDJ = Olajuwon Shiz = Payton Mew2king = Duncan Mango = Kobe HBox = Curry Armada = LeBron PPMD = Durant Leffen = Paul Axe = Harden Plup = Lillard

[@torygalaxy]

lol

[@Antonbrehbrahbruh]

oh that "hungrybox he's so hot right now" lul zoolander

[@brucewayne4172]

Woah hbox has a puff?!

[@GaleblazeXYZ]

Yo was that an edge cancel rest at 7:03? Hbox flashed white for a moment

[@TehFabled]

+GaleblazeXYZ probably might be an airdodge

[@GaleblazeXYZ]

+Ph.D&D copy. Great username btw

[@MooncakeGaming]

15:30 "Some money along the way" Wife's hard reads on Plank's prize money game xD

[@Malusmiser]

These were simpler times reading these comments. Before all the Hbox hate, before all the needless criticism of top players, just nothing but good loving melee: respectful spectators and players who enjoy watching their game grow.

[@alexkottke7694]

2016 is the year of the Hungrybox, I can feel it. Let's go Juan.

[@forstaken2254]

Wife and Husband I believe, at their core, are arguably top 3 of the best commentators of this game, narrating the game for both players unlike other commentators like HomeMadeWaffles or Scar, but they are still great commentators and we can be proud of this community for such. Great tournament win for Hbox, it's tougher for him and Mang0 now with these new players. Thou shall not sleep on these last 2 gods.

[@zackbennett7480]

@1:27 THE DOUBLE BODY ARMOR 2 QUICK ONES

[@revolutionofmedicine]

Wait, so these streams end?

[@RenzyTheGreat]

Hbox is the Golden State Warriors of Melee. It's just his time, unless someone finds a crack in his armor

[@Stryker1297]

+Renzythegreat91 no, he's the spurs id say. i say that because of his repetitive, ugly, boring yet effective style. there is no steph curry or golden state of melee at the moment i think. golden state is insanely electrifying, which is something puff can't do. im not knocking hbox success or anything, im just saying that he's not breaking new grounds and becoming the best team {player} ever or anything. he's just hot right now!

[@RenzyTheGreat]

+Torren Dreakford I think your analogy is spot on, I only used GSW as an example because they've been so dominate throughout the year. But Hbox is definitely the Spurs lol

[@Stryker1297]

+Renzythegreat91 yeah I figured you were using the gsw tag in terms of success, and not style. Which is fair enough since he's winning everything as of recent

[@SamLoki]

to be fair coming from losers fighting a puff as fox for 2 straight sets is extremely exhausting. at extremely high level matches, it takes so much more work from Fox to kill a puff and it will take a toll on your mind and fingers. a war of attrition against puff is an uphill battle for sure

[@SnaccHBG]

How do you think Puff players feel?

[@SamLoki]

Rashid Al Harmoodi a puff player fighting any fox is usually normal for them. As far as I'm concerned, picking fox is your best bet against puff, and I'm sure every puff player knows that specific match up more than any other character. Like mango said, fighting a puff is difficult because you both know what the puff wants to do, it's just the set that puff has is so safe there's not much you can do about it. That being said, in this specific situation where mango has to win 2 sets, and hungry box only needs to win one to win, of course it would take much more of a toll on mango.

[@torygalaxy]

Y m2k porque no estuvo en el torneo?

[@akifcevik2272]

+Tomy M2k esta jugando muy mal ahora.

[@torygalaxy]

Suele pasar :/ a lo mejor se recupera

[@akifcevik2272]

Eso espero

[@torygalaxy]

Es mi ídolo en smash desde el melee pocos se comparan con lo que era m2k Hbox también es muy bueno (Y)

[@daDiscoAvenger]

+Tomy En realidad le esta dedicando mucho mas tiempo a Smash 4 por eso su nivel de Melee a bajado considerablemente, yo tambien extraño ver su juego!

[@JesseDumontt]

Mango's gonna have to start laser camping now. It sucks.

[@KTSpeedruns]

So glad I watched. HBox is amazing. I was surprised that this started with HB in winners bracket. Mango is normally in winners in this situation.

[@-lecceo-3168]

It feels like now that hbox has nearly mastered puffs tools, he is actually learning to mix up well.

[@AjayRhys]

8:09 that baby head had me rolling!

[@dranzer2545]

this is old as fuck. Upload it right after it finishes

[@BrickNGames]

Hard to tell if Armada or Hbox is #1 currently

[@bradyboles355]

+BrickNGames Still gotta give it to Armada.

[@daviss6747]

It's close, but it's still Armada

[@josiahcrismon6998]

We'll be able to tell after smash summit 2.

[@jda091]

People are saying Hbox is killing Melee because his play style is boring. The man just plays effectively. I didn't catch the memo that stated winning was suddenly boring. For basketball fans, a direct comparison would be the San Antonio Spurs of the mid 2000's. A team that caught the same flack because they won a ton but everyone dismissed them as "boring"

[@hymnsbydaniel]

Spurs still are boring lol

[@Stryker1297]

+jda091 the spurs still are boring lol. and i dont really care about this topic, but you realize you dont decide what people should feel is entertaining, or boring right? pretty presumptuous of you to just go ahead and decide that winning is entertaining and that there isnt any counter to that arugment. the fact of the matter is, as you said, he plays effectively. effective and boring are two entirely different things. i wouldnt get them mixed up, especially by just disounting most people's definition of entertaining, which, sorry to break it to you this way, isn't just winning or playing well. floaty characters get repetitive, it's a fact, and you dont get to just tell people they should'nt feel that way, just because it wins. when you do that, you make even less sense then the haters.

[@danaltamirano2546]

Wife's voice sounds so good lol

[@isaacmichel8641]

One thing that amazes me is how Hbox survives up throw up air at 80 on YOSHI'S lol DI for days lol

[@Adrian.Christ]

Waited 2 weeks to watch this, pretty disappointed lol Grats to Hbox though, he has gotten so good at the fox match up

[@MikeVoss]

Jiggs should be higher tier because of this man.

[@beefstroganoff3297]

I'm split for who I cheer for in Mang0 vs Hbox games, on one hand I wand hbox to win because he plays puff and mang0 plays fox, but on the other hand I want Mang0 to win because he styles.

[@El_Andru]

Lately this has been some James Hunt, Nicky Lauda shit. One is amazing at times, the other is consistent (watch Rush movie if you want to understand the reference and/or see an amazing movie)

[@cameronlackey7301]

I literally haven't seen Hbox miss a rest in tourny since like 2014.

[@daviss6747]

Paragon 2015 Hbox vs Armada. Game 3. He misses 2 rests on one stock to lose the game

[@HeronPrince223]

+The Stack then you clearly haven't watched the rest of this tournament's bracket LEL

[@HeronPrince223]

+The Stack or even this set lmfao

[@Webberjo]

15:00 That awkward handshake.

[@lesternomo6578]

+Webberjo They recovered pretty well. It was no PPMD and m2k

[@NerdBitesWeekly]

Hbox is the best in the world right now.

[@MrKynzer]

I know it's late but let's freaking go hbox

[@MrKynzer]

favorite smasher of all time

[@jaredmartin7040]

Armada #1 Hungrybox #2 in the world,damn Hbox is catching up!😎

[@emantv6343]

8:01 it's nair to up smash. Not jab.

[@AqUaiGamer]

one of the commentaters was just repeting what the other guy said

[@bonzymew_]

6:47 Lol Hbox SDI'ing irl

[@Wizzkidwas]

If you SDI in real life it will make it more effective!

[@Piratederp]

+Aron Estrada He does that all the time, it's pretty funny I like watching his player came because of it. Even better if it's an older match and he is standing up and does it, his entire body convulses and he jerks around while SDIng.

[@moea6007]

Aron Estrada lol I read "SD'ING irl" at first

[@qwert12345asdfgzxcvb]

Leffen's gotta save us. Mango and Armada are busters.

[@cyclone1106]

Where's the crab

[@KomanndA124]

Wrong one, the crab is pound 2019

[@michaeldinh2449]

Busterrrrr

[@scepkile]

God I'm so conflicted...on the one hand I'm sick of fox winning everything. On the other I would rather have any other character be the one to destroy his reign of terror.

[@Dr.CaveCurinas]

Damn, Husband and Wife looking snazzy with those suits.

[@PersonaXlll]

prince abu will be our hero

[@hoolioast8942]

Look at 9:11 when hbox dthrows mango he looks at his controller

[@hoolioast8942]

yea hbox is known to be a sneaky one in this regard but i thought it was interesting to mention that he still looks at his opponents controller while dthrowing

[@PikaPower131313]

Are we gonna have Hbox in #1 now? I sure as hell hope so! Life has gotten boring with Mango being the best. Hbox has always been the under dog.

[@BrickNGames]

Mango has not been #1 since 2014

[@jeremiahbaugh5093]

I'm worried that the next time hbox can face leffen he's gonna get dicked just cause he hasn't played with him in so long

[@samuelvibritannia4831]

Hbox with the solid play, nice job.

[@702Belmont]

I have a theory, if hbox wins evo, he will consider himself the best player. He will then not care about losing and he will fall off of melee in his true prime. After, he will go on with his life and everyone will remember him as the best melee player ever and again fox will be at the top.

[@SRM13]

he then went on to be the number one player for 3 years in a row

[@ClintonChelak]

The commentating was a little rough this tournament. It's making it hard to watch this.

[@ClintonChelak]

+Clinton Chelak Actually, just fast-forward this baby and see these chipmunks chatter their knowledge away. Annoyance to entertainment.

[@tokanite]

Hbox #1 2016 undisputed

[@daviss6747]

Except for Armada

[@tokanite]

+Davis S Last time Hbox and Armada met was at 5 gods - Hbox won. Without dropping a single game to Armada, I might remind you. Hbox #1 2016 undisputed.

[@daviss6747]

tokanite Okay, that doesn't mean he's automatically #1. People tend to forget Armada's insane streak, which is still going on today. I'm an Hbox fan myself, but it's true. It's very close, but Hbox is still #2

[@nickh4676]

+Davis S armada will be on a losing streak for a long time against box's current and evolving puff

[@hymnsbydaniel]

+Nicholas Hale Will he though? Just because he lost at 5 Gods doesn't mean jack. HBox lost to Mango in Genesis 3, and has beat him every match since. The same can happen with Armada and HBox. Armada is too consistent to ever count out. He's #1 undisputed. HBox can take #2.

[@SuperBackBacon]

the year is 666XX...

[@patrickstar2043]

indeed

[@Cam101077]

yo Hungrybox's movement!

[@supafamouskid]

always find my self routing for the lower tier character

[@jakesmith9438]

I love HBOX and all but some one needs to take armada and him off their pedestal

[@Wizzkidwas]

Let HBOX enjoy some time in the spotlight

[@13lordaaron]

Glad hbox won show some respect mango

[@1originalaccountname]

Mang0? More like Fr4ud.

[@lewisbirkett4428]

we need armada back to save us

[@Rulytasho]

+Lewis Birkett As much as I love Armada, I really don't mind a Reign of HungryBox

[@excaliburjc6846]

HBox beat Armada at Battle of the Five Gods, I believe.

[@davidcosgrove4136]

+excaliburjc armada at that tourney wasn't on point, sadly. I can't wait until the next time they meet in bracket to see how it goes

[@MoonEarthSaturn]

We need leffen lmao hbox just gets fucked by him

[@Stryker1297]

+excaliburjc he did. but i believe, armada's record against him is nothing for hbox to celebrate.

[@joehogue7920]

watching hbox is like watching cancer develop

[@jakobc6837]

Let's see you try beating him.

[@joehogue7920]

lol at what point did i say i was better than him? thats like a five year olds argument

[@Stryker1297]

+Based Dank your name is "dank" so im sure youre just a troll anyways, but cancer is rather hard to beat. he didnt say hed beat him, he said that hbox plays like a slow, boring, terminal disease, which he kinda does, he's so hard to watch.

[@jakobc6837]

+Torren Dreakford well said

[@Stryker1297]

+Yang Fei the rest and it's accuracy it's interesting. It's just that everything else isn't, from most spectators perspective.

[@mariosavage1]

Bout time :D

[@19RocketMan96]

Commentators are lllaammmee

[@SolaticSyot]

+19RocketMan96 Why? Because they don't bring the epic memes like the usual commentators? Newly weds are like the second best set of commentators we have right now, first being Scar and Toph.

[@AlexN1224]

+Solatic Syot na d1 and prog is first, second is wife husband, third I guess scartoph

[@SolaticSyot]

AlexN1224 I mean, I did say "we have right now" D1 and Prog aren't really active enough for me to consider them current.

[@AlexN1224]

i guess

[@AlexN1224]

666XX:1 20XX:0

[@carson9763]

I really hate wife and husband commentating.

[@danielcohens4610]

AIDS

[@trapmagicify]

commentary so bad

[@thomask7441]

yawn